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Warriors Wanted: Apply Here

Speaker: Eric J. Pepin
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Eric: I thought that it would be good to open up with some questions and get a little familiar with
where everyones at, and get a sense of the room so maybe we want to start from this side and
work our way over if that works for everybody. Just raise your hand if you have a question.
Okay? Thank God!
Student: Eric, its a privilege to be here; thank you very much. I do have a question about the
meditation technique that you use regarding your techno music. Some of it I like; I find it very
fascinating, and soothing and it puts me in a spiritual mood, and other times it can be a little
annoying. Im wondering, Am I supposed to be focusing on that part, the sound of music that's
annoying? Is that preventing me from going deep, and do you have to go deep in order to have a
good meditation experience?
Eric: Well, thats a loaded question, so well try to break it up into several areas; but its a very
good question. A lot of people traditionally expect to hear the common sounds and relaxing
music and thats fine; I think thats wonderful. But what happens is that you build a resistance to
certain moves of music, if thats a good way to put it, and you almost have to switch it up in a
sense to get your brain thrown off kilter. The brain has a remarkable ability to adjust and to
acclimate to certain circumstances and we dont necessarily want that to fully happen. I recall
watching, I think it was the Ukraine or the Balkan War and they were talking about how
everything was in chaos with bombs, tanks and rubble. And several months after the war, they
had children playing outside with bombs going off everywhere as if nothing was going on. It
really demonstrated how resilient we are and how quickly we adapt to our surroundings.
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I realized that when one would meditate a lot, I noticed they would start off very good.
Theres this plateau point and they start to come down a little bit and they go back up and I
thought, Well, how does one overcome that? How does one shake that up? By introducing
techno or heavier bass drums at times or switching it up, the annoying part is, actually in the end,
very good. Its your brain that is annoyed and youre annoyed because its saying, I dont know
what this is; I dont like it. And my answer would be, Well, good, dont listen to it. Learn to
move beyond the music. And thats really the trick. I think a lot of people listen to the music
and it takes them somewhere and Im all for that. That is a big part of it. But it only takes you to
a certain point. Theres a point where you have to go across the ocean and step on the land now
and do it by foot.
So when you accept the music, youll either find one or two things happening. One,
youll start to enjoy it, and be surprised that you actually enjoy it. Or, youll learn to put it right
out of your mind. And thats a skill, wax on, wax off. Whether you realize it or not, its a skill to
move this annoyance and be able to move beyond that, and thats what happens.
Im a big believer in turmoil, in the sense of upheaval, because its the only thing that
makes us deal with the situation. We have to overcome it so we have to think, we have to make
our brain adapt. If everythings very placid and beautiful all the time, which is like most new age
circles, and most meditation circles are meditating ten, twenty, thirty years and theyre at peace. I
think everybody here has the same reason why theyre here, Give me some experiences; give
me something to sink my teeth into. Is it so much to ask? That is what were after. The brain is
your friend, but its your enemy in a lot of ways. Its not really who you are. We need to shake it
up, and this is why we create this annoyance, per se. Thats exactly what it is. Questions? Okay.
Student: Ive taken a lot of clairvoyance classes, and I've read a lot of books and its almost
universal that they insist we ground ourselves. Its an act of will to visualize an energy core to
the center of the planet. And Ive always wondered what your opinion is.
Eric: Define for everybody your terminology of clairvoyance. There tends to be a lot of wavy
gray area for terminology.
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Student: Clairvoyance would be any sensory beyond the five physical senses that we use like
clairsentience, clairvoyance.
Eric: I think its true, but this gets back to my whole concept of adaptation. I believe in
evolution; I believe in spirituality, and I embrace science. When I look at man, I look at
evolution. When we look at thousands and thousands of years of meditation, with the same
centering concept, and then what I was saying earlier about adaptation of the brain finding a way
around that, as a loophole. Let me back up.
Most people are supposed to be red cells. Im assuming everybody understands that. The
Doe is specifically trying to keep you as a red cell. The Doe in part, organically, is your brain.
Its working for the Doe. Its working for the organic planet. Now, you as a sentient being or as
energy residing, one, youre awakening. Two, youre saying, All right, if I need to run some of
the show, I need to step forward here and take some control. Now, the centering is a good
system. It works; we incorporate that into our practice, but we dont make it necessarily the
center of that practice.
In some ways, the brain has found immunities for getting around that. I hate being so
brash with saying it, but I say, Using this system, how many experiences do you have when you
center yourself purely and you wait? Its more or less a clearing, but theres this part of you that
comes from here thats going, Well, I want to sense something. And then the rational part is
saying, Well, you've got to center everything. What if thats the part thats actually the sensory
youre looking to develop? You have a situation in your mind where youre saying, It cant be
because that must be my brain. It cant be because Im no longer centering on being one with the
planet, or being one tonal. The question is, Where do you learn to stretch out? With what?
How do you recognize it?
My approach, more or less, is to work a lot on the metaphysical skills and incorporate it
into the meditations. If you feel that momentum, go for it. Expand on it. Again, most
metaphysical schools, particularly in meditation, say, Dont do anything paranormal. Dont do
anything psychic or clairvoyant. But yet, you look at the spiritual masters in history and theyre
all performing miracles. Well, whats a miracle? A miracle is a clairvoyant ability or psychic
phenomena. All of these things!
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The secret doctrines that everybody alludes to are metaphysical teachings. What they tell
the people, the masses, which they depend on for the money to pay for the schools, for the
schools to be supported, so they can go on with these spiritual teachings, is, We have to be
passive. We cant intimidate them. We dont want to frighten them. We dont want to scare them
by saying we can read their minds or control them or have these abilities. Then the money
stops. So they put out a sense of, We meditate; we center ourselves, and we wait for God to
come in. This is what we do; we pray for you; we put out beautiful energy for you. Good things
will happen for you. They get convinced then to come into the schools to hang out for a year or
so. They know that this is somebody whos applying themselves so they say, Okay. Weve got
something were going to let you in on.
And this is where you start to get into techniques that Im talking about. Pushing those
psychic abilities and that portion of your mind which, in my opinion, clearly is the link to
enlightenment, to God, to what everybodys looking for: completion. If we ignore it, and we say,
Dont work on spiritual abilities; dont work on sensory; just wait for it to happen, I think
theres a very gray line between what is waiting and what is starting to feel something and
saying, No, no, no, thats probably something I shouldnt be doing; I need to wait for the big
thing. Does that make sense for you or am I in left field here? Questions?
Student: Up to about one hundred-fifty years ago, things were the way they were; we had horse
and buggies and there was not too much technology. All of a sudden, in 1850, the cotton gin was
invented and that began this technological revolution that were now experiencing. Whats your
take on what happened one hundred-fifty years ago? What accelerated things to where they are
right now? Spiritually, whats going on?
Eric: Well, as everybody probably knows, I believe in Gaia, meaning the planet is a living
organism, and I think these are simply phases in the consciousness movement of the planet. If
you look at nature, everything you need to know about the Universe can be revealed to you. If
you look at children, I see children and I look at the planet. The difference is that you have to
look at thousands, if not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years and, of course, you
have to keep in mind were limited when we look at it, because its what we know, what weve
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documented, what we know from archeology. I think there are a lot of gray areas. I certainly
believe there were other cultures in this world long before our own.
I see the planet with hemispheres. You could say that Africa is a different hemisphere of the
brain; Europe is another hemisphere of the brain, and over time they collectively began to build
neural systems, much like the frontal lobe of the human brain. When this happened, you have
information from telegraphs to smoke signals to mail, and this creates explosive levels of
communication or movement of data. This, in turn, starts to inspire ideas and concepts and new
things, and it just literally explodes and then it crosses and reaches other cultures.
Just how fast is this data moving? I cant say specifically whether it was one hundred and
fifty years to the day. But Im willing to bet if you go back to around that point and you look at
the information, what were we doing then? How was information moved? Was it by train? Was
the telegraph starting to come in? It usually is a form of information thats spreading on the
planet and this is whats creating these booms. Of course, information is moving faster. We all
know what used to take one hundred years were doing in five years now or two years. Its just
catapulting. This is exactly what happened. If you look at the biology of man or the history of
man, what happened with the human brain? Its very similar, just much bigger. Theres a very
strong connection there.
Student: I think it was a meditation you were teaching. You asked me to sit down and then
imagine myself walking backwards, and looking at different objects, looking at time differently.
Eric: Okay. Now, I know what were talking about. The context of the question was, in regards
to the material, The In-Between and going into an In-Between state, I had asked Millie what
her thoughts were, and I got the feeling she was having a little bit of a problem with it. After
talking to her, I sensed she has a very analytical mind and shes dissecting it. I spoke to someone
else and there was another gentleman last night with a very similar situation. I said the same
thing to him. One of the things about going In-Between is, if you over-analyze it, its whats
holding you in place. The very thing youre trying to move out of or allow yourself to step out
of, is the very thing youre using to analyze how to do it! Theres a dilemma there. Youre
excited; you want to know what it is. Then theres the fear factor youre not even taking into
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consideration, because youre being fearful at the same time with, Whats going to happen? Or
when it does happen you say, Will I have any control? So control issues are another thing.
A very simple technique is to imagine yourself walking backwards. Close your eyes,
relax, put your hands very much like how I have them, dont cross your legs, and just see
yourself walking backwards. What most people will do, which is instinctive, is theyll see their
feet. Theyll see their feet walking backwards. Once you notice that, you want to become aware
of the road. The road, ten to one, is a dirt road of some type with maybe some grass in the
middle. Its very ironic that most people see the same thing and then as youre walking
backwards you want to become aware of the bushes and the trees moving past you as youre
walking backwards. You then want to spend some of your time taking note of the distance and
usually this road is very straight. Its not like you just went around a curve or a turn. As youre
walking backward, you will find that your body just relaxes. It just surrenders, which gets into
the same thing we were talking about with the music. Its about finding a way to trick the brain
into something its not expecting. Once youve done that, it's almost like when they take roosters
and turn them upside down and get them to go into a hypnotic state.
Were doing the same thing. Were really saying to the brain, Calm down, relax, we
dont need to analyze. Just unwind. Youre literally clearing that part of your mind. It opens up
other regions that you want to let forward so that you can slip out into this higher state of
consciousness I speak of. Then you should hit the play button and listen to The In-Between
and youll have a much greater level of success with it. And time comes to a point where it
stands still. Often in the In-Between, when you go into this state of mind, many people dont pay
attention to time. Time seems to be very irrelevant and I dont know how many people have
managed to slip into that or listened to that material. Time is almost really nonexistent. Its the
last thing on your mind. It just doesnt seem to exist. If anyone has gone In-Between, its
interesting to think about that. Time gives the sense of standing still or irrelevance. Okay?
Student: I have a general question. Right now as were entering into this age, there are a lot of
spiritual teachers out there, and its interesting how they rarely refer to each other or have any
symbiosis between the teachings, which are actually very, very similar, but in different
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languages. Ive seen a pattern of that and I was wondering if there was a reason for that to take
place?
Eric: I pretty much say things the way they really are. Okay? I dont want to be looked at as a
holy man, and dont put me on a pedestal because Im going to fall, and Im going to be mad at
you if you put me up there.
I really see things in a very different way, and one of the things I dont like is when
everybody dances around certain topics. And nobody honestly answers them. I believe most
spiritual people dont. Most people think, Well, they're spiritual; every word that comes from
their mouth is absolute truth and absolutely the way it is, and theyre ego-less. Not true! I think
we do have a lot of ego, but in a healthy way. I want to be the best teacher there is. And Im the
young guy on the block; Ive got a lot to prove. I think they have a lot of traditional formats.
There are too many things that are kept secret. Theres no acknowledgment of one another,
because I think theres a slight ego sense of losing potential students and vice versa. And most of
the material out there seems to be pretty much the same.
Its very rare to come across something thats really pushing that threshold and coming
out with a fresh approach. I knew when I decided to start teaching what I had to say. I was very
reluctant to do it, because I was not really sure what the backlash would be in discussing what
nobody wanted to talk about. When I would get together with other spiritually advanced people,
I really got the feeling like, Okay, you know a lot, but you cant share it. So, of course, I
thought two things. In my youth, I thought, Thats probably because you dont know anything,
and you dont want anyone else to know that you don't know. And the second thing I thought
was, If none of us ever gets it, and were so selective, how are we all going to progress? How
are we going to find the other like-minded people? Its so kept in the dark. There is a sense of
competition, a sense of control, a sense of how easily or how readily it's available. Spiritual
teachings, like everything else, get induced to society via its interpretation. And when the teacher
passes, other students bring their culture in, and this gets back to ego and not wanting to give this
information out except to a select few people.
Im not sure if this is answering your question or not; I'm just giving an honest opinion. A
lot of the information is the same. A lot of it will not be given to people in general because
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theyre saying, Well, youve got to move out here. Youve got to live in a cave or you have to
live here or there, and then Ill share a little with you. The times have changed; the planet is
evolving. The people are evolving; there are more spiritual beings now that are highly advanced
and are asleep because of society and cultures indoctrinating into these ancient teachings that
should have been more prolifically given; everybodys hanging onto this identity of information.
Do you follow what Im saying? So, its a pretty wavy road. Does that help answer your
question?
Student: Yeah, that helped a lot. Theres a rare group of teachers giving a lot more information,
and saying it a lot more openly, like the way it really is. Their teachings actually sound a lot like
yours.
Eric: Theyre all copy-cats.
Student: But just in a different language. Even in those cases it's weird; they dont refer to each
other.
Eric: Which teachers are you speaking of?
Student: There is Amma Bhagavan in India, Ramtha, and Maitreya. Those are the major ones I
know about, and then theres Sai Baba. There are a lot of them.
Eric: I cant say that I know what theyre all up to or what theyre doing. I constantly have this
inner fear, not that I mean any disrespect to anybody. I dont want to get into the position where
Im speaking negatively, but I do believe I have a loyalty to tell you guys the truth. This is the
big problem because everybody dances around it and you guys are here for the real deal. You
want the real information. I just dont think they necessarily, fully get it. Boy, this is going to be
on the cameras. Im just asking for trouble. I know it. For instance, I wont say specific names,
because were bound to run into each other sooner or later.
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A particular teacher who channels has a particular compound not far from here, and they
were talking about manifestation. And this was a person who evidently defected. And theyve
been involved ten, twenty years, and all of their money went out to this; everything they had
financially. They evidently have these schoolroom buildings. And in these schoolroom buildings
they had groups and they were each working on the manifestation of objects. What happened was
they heard a lot of cheering and applauding and so all these other groups came out to the hallway.
And this lady was walking down the hallway and she had a blue feather and shes holding it up
and waving it around. Evidently she had manifested it, and everybody was applauding and
cheering and later on this gentleman who had defected and written the article, said, I went up to
her and said, 'How did you do it? How did you manifest it? What was the final moment?' She
said, 'I was downtown the other day at the store and I saw the blue feather, and I said, 'Well, Ill
buy it.' Weve got all these people thinking she manifested it, and by all rules and regulations,
maybe the spiritual teacher said, She manifested it, she took charge! Are we all that stupid?
Now the ones sitting theyre going, She manifested, she took charge! Well, we manifest every
single day then! Every single day we have to put food on our table; every single day we have to
put clothing on our backs. We are Gods!
Thats not what Im looking for! Im looking for the truth! If it be extraordinary, then let it
be extraordinary, but Im not looking for a blue feather. If she manifested a blue feather in the
first place, I would have said, Why in the hell did you pick a blue feather!? I dont like to talk
about other spiritual teachers, and I know who they all are. Im the new guy breaking out on the
block, and Im going to be the rebel. Im going to call it what it is, and if they want to pull dirt out
on me, let them pull it out. It adds to the spice in my character; I am who I am. I dont have any
regrets, good, bad, and indifferent. It made me into the person who I am.
When I look at these other spiritual teachers and I see the money they make, and I look at
the exploitation, lets call it what it is. I have a real problem and Im angry. Im angry, and now
I'm saying, Im going to do it my way, and thats the way it is. Money has always been an issue,
what we charge. Some people say we charge too much. These people out there, I dont think their
stuff comes close to what Im putting out there. I think most of the people here would probably
agree, and if you dont I want to know who you are.
Im really laying it out there, dollar for dollar! We have an office thats not inexpensive.
Weve got a lot of staff who have to get on the phones and weve got a huge phone bill. We do all
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of the production ourselves from scratch from making the CD's, because we just couldnt afford to
do it otherwise. So when people say, Why dont you just give it out for free? Im like, It
wouldnt be available for free, because there wouldnt be people to produce it because they have
to work to feed their own families. Theyve got to pay their rent and pay their car payment and
everything else. Unfortunately, it is the way it is, and it took me a long time to accept that. Im
not saying that its wrong for them to be charging for it. What Im saying is, What exactly are
they doing? Where are their students at? Where is the level of enlightenment coming from these
people? Where are the results? Blue feathers? That doesn't do anything for me. Its not enough.
Does that help?
Student: Yeah, thank you.
Eric: Questions? Oh yeah, more hands finally! Go ahead.
Student: Eric, one of the things Ive been working with for quite a while in Star Reach, is working
with the tones, and the tone meditations. One thing you said quite a while back thats meant quite
a bit to me is that in some of the work that I do as a healer, when those tones come in, it often
indicates a shift in consciousness. One of the things Im still a little bit puzzled about as Ive
worked through a lot of your material, and Ive worked on hearing the tones, I hear several tones
at a time. I work on bringing them in and out; my coach has worked with me on that, but Im still
not entirely clear about what it means, and what to do with it.
Eric: The tones. Show of hands, how many people know about the tones? Okay. So were not
giving away too much money. Lets talk about the tones. Again, were getting right back, and I
think most people must be beginning to see how important this is when I say to them, The brain,
the brain, the brain is the problem. Okay? There is a difference between the brain and the mind.
Thats the first thing we have to always remember. Whenever were thinking with the mind, rest
assured its the brain. Its the copycat thats mimicking you and convincing you its you.
The tones are something that it cant mimic. It cant mimic it. The tones come from a
different part of your consciousness that is unique. You hear these tones and the first thing you
think is, Okay, I hear this high pitch. It could be blood flow in my ear; it could be this or that.
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Then you concentrate on hearing it, and you find that you hear different pitches start to change.
And then theres a realization that you can control it. But its not easy to control it. The second
your brain starts to think, vooooop, it goes right back to solid. When you stop the thought in your
brain, the babbler, the chit-chat, all of a sudden you have this ability to bend or separate the
sound. I often tell people to envision it like a bar. A solid bar is the first pitch you hear, and as you
listen to it, youll find your brain stops talking, and some other part of your mind comes forward
and its concentrated. And you realize its actually a couple of different pitches all making one
sound, and when you start to focus on it, you can specifically pin something down.
Its much like listening to an orchestra of music. At first, you hear the music and it moves
you. Then you might listen to the piano or listen to the harp. The noise is still going on, but you
can hear every string of it. Its as if you can zone in on it. Youre literally doing the same thing,
but youre doing it within your mind, or from this other source where the sound is coming from.
And that sound can be heard anywhere. Thats whats absolutely unique to it. If put things in your
ear, you will only hear it louder. You can be at the bottom of the ocean in a submarine and youll
hear it louder, so it doesnt matter. I can go into any environment, because Im so trained with it;
there can be rock-n-roll music and speakers three feet from me and I can find the pitches and
break them all down. Okay?
It is something inner dimensional within your mind. It is your lifeline, in a sense, to help
you find it. As you begin to separate these bars or notes, and you start to concentrate, youll find
you can move them very far apart; you can find other ones, and as soon as you pull them apart,
whats interesting is a new bar will appear and thats a different pitch. So now you have three
pitches, and then you can separate them, and you have five pitches. Then the brain says, Well,
how long do you think you can do this? Wooosh, and then they all go down, and youre like,
Stupid brain, shut up! See what you did now! And you start back over again.
So you start to clear these pitches and you get control over them. One of the things most
people dont notice is that your breathing starts to change. And I often say, Dont worry about
the body. You can get hit in the head and be in a coma, but whats still running? Your heart is
still pumping; your lungs are functioning. Its a living organism; there isnt anything about it
thats literally you. Tell them to do their job and go adventure. Go play with this. As soon as you
can get over that fear, youre going to break these bars up even more.
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The bars are teaching you. Heres the million dollar answer. It is the equivalent of
walking, for your consciousness. Youre learning to move your mind through a different will. Do
you follow me? Theres no word to describe it. I can call it movement. I can call it walking; I can
call it whatever you want, but in this realm, its movement. If I want to walk, I physically choose
to get up and walk. But when you deal with these bars, youre moving. You just havent got out of
the cradle yet; you just havent had that realization. Hence, wax on, wax off.
Im trying to prepare you. The day you go and do the other meditation, youre relaxed, and
all of a sudden your consciousness is going to be out there. Youre not going to think, Well I
dont have a body. Why cant I see me seeing things? Youve removed that as an issue. And then
while youre there, its going to be like a pitch black room, and youre going to be like, Oh, this
feels good. This is relaxing. Youre not talking. Youre not using words. Youre using
consciousness.
What are you going to do? If you stay there long enough you will think, Im bored. So
youre going to want to move. Are you going to use your feet to move there? Youre going to
think about the chords, or the chords are going to come already naturally to you, and youre going
to move. Its not movement necessarily. I use it simply as a definition to explain something thats
very hard to explain. You can move into this dimension and see reality, and this physical world, if
you will, or move into other dimensions. And the reason for the chords is that it will exquisitely
train you for that moment when youre ready to make that step. Youve learned what you need to
do about moving your mind and training it, making it disciplined and understanding. After a while
it becomes second nature. Does that work for you? Good. Questions?
Student: In your book The Handbook of the Navigator, towards the end of the book, I sensed there
is a sense of urgency. I felt very strongly, that for us to awaken, and once we know we need to
move on it quickly, and I felt that there was more that wasnt said. A few of us talked about this
also. I just dont know if its meant to be even spoken about now or not?
Eric: Throughout the ages, different spiritual organizations and people have felt this in select
groups. But there have been white cells throughout history. The problem, I think, is culture. You
have people who set limitations as to, This is whats allowed, and this is not whats allowed.
These are the rules and regulations of this society. Now were going to indoctrinate this with
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superstition. These things incorporated themselves into spirituality, and customs and practices that
werent really getting to the truth of it.
When I had my first enlightenment cycle, per se, I realized that I hadnt done it following
any particular route. I followed it really developing this sixth sense ability I have. I thought, Why
arent they sharing this with other people, and what does it all mean? Ill cut to the chase because
everybody pretty much knows all of this. We are white cells; we are old souls, every single person
in here. Didnt you make it here? I hate to put it out there like Close Encounters of the Third Kind
where the guys building the clay Devils Tower, but its literally like that for us! Were here, not
because we just picked something random. There is a calling. There is a resonance. There is a
frequency that is on this entire planet and either you tune into it or you dont. And were tuning
into it. And its saying, Okay, youve got to awaken. Youve got to remember who you are, and
why you were sent to this world. You need to get off your butt and start to put it out there.
Theres a big reason for that, and this is why Im stomping my feet and Im not going to
play by any of the rules of the organizational method. Im saying, Okay, were just going to have
to lay it out there. Well play within some reasonable rules, because weve got to communicate
with people. White cells are warriors. I dont want to roll the drumbeat, but there is a very
aggressive side to us that is very much on the side of the Light. Now everybody says that youve
got to be passive. Well, okay, but theres a part of us that doesn't want to be passive! We feel as if
you've made us so passive, that you've neutered us now! Lets rumble. Lets bring it on! If its
going to come down, bring it on! I think everybody here feels that, and I want to lay it out on the
table. Enough with the passiveness! We know right from wrong. Were not going to go hurt
anyone. We love life. We respect life. We respect one another. We know right from wrong.
Believe me!
There are forces out there that have different intentions for life. If you look at the human
body, as I said before, its not much different. The white cells must serve their role! If they do not
serve their role, we have a big problem. This is literally how I see it. I see white cells on this
planet being passive. Some of them are doing their job for what they specifically are meant to do.
I think the Buddhists are team members, but theyre a team. Their job is a little different. There
are other schools out there that are spiritual; theyre doing their job too. But its time for a specific
group to step forward.
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I watch The Learning Channel an awful lot and I love that stuff. They were talking about
red cells and white cells, and they mentioned super cells, and of course, I said, Oh, whats this?
They were saying how super cells are white cells and theyre ancient. They remain dormant.
Theyre in the body. Theyre there. They exist amongst everything else, but theyre silent. When a
very powerful negative virus comes along, per se, Im using a spiritual/medical talk if you will,
not that I have specific terms for it. This virus comes into the body, wreaking havoc. Then these
super cells become awakened, and they literally jump up and they kick butt! They kick butt! They
come out of this slumber and shake it off and say, Okay, move along juniors, lets take care of
this. I feel this is what White Cells are here to do, and I think everyone here knows it.
Were just so passive that were afraid to say that theres something very important we
need to do. If you look at a virus, you have to say to yourself, What is a virus doing? Theres
not much of a huge difference, per se. Its just macro-micro. Viruses clone themselves; they
mimic; they adapt, and they walk amongst other cells in the body. Now Im not saying that
everybody out there is a bad guy, but Ill tell you that they are out there. They exist, and you guys
know them. You can feel them, but you tell yourself not to listen to that sensory. The rational
brain goes, Ah, you could go do your laundry. Isnt there a movie we have to get to? Youre
saying, This guy. Theres something about this person. And youre not reacting. Of course, the
real question is, So what do I do? Do I go up and smack them across the back of the head and
say, 'You dummy, Im on to you'? There are other methods.
Well certainly cover all of that. I dont want to call it a war, because a war that has been
going on since the beginning of time, I dont think is a war. I see it more as a balancing. Okay?
Some people say, The people on the Earth are like a disease; theyre bad, and we should all be
wiped out. Nonsense! Absolute nonsense! We are part of the Earth! Without it, the Earth is in
dire trouble. We are the nervous system. Were here for a reason. We sprouted from the ground,
and we have the cosmos merged within us from the Universe that sprouted the Earth, per se.
There is a job to be done here. We need to recognize what that role is, and this is what Im
trying to lay out there. Im trying to be a little careful about it. I dont want to start some fanatical
thing. Do you see what I'm saying? I want people to be independent, free-thinking. Everybody
must remain unique because each of us will work within our own group, our own purposes, what
were designed to work amongst. Does that make sense for everybody?
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So, in essence, this is what I believe this calling is. Its healing; its going be a much
bigger level of healing than anybody can imagine, not too long from now. There will be people
who can harness their abilities and theres going to come a time when this is going to be
amplified, and what you have is what you have. Whatever skills you have, all this time youve
been swimming in a pool. Nobody else had a pool and all of a sudden the ocean hits, and nobody
knows how to swim. But if you know how to get around in the pool, youre going to do real well.
Does that make sense? This is what I am trying to slowly bring along. Anyone who goes into
higher states of consciousness, when you guys start to slide in there, youre going to understand a
much bigger, much more complex picture of things.
For the most part, its just really a matter of getting the true super cells awakened, and Im
not talking about the pacifist in a sense. Im not saying were going to be out there with
pitchforks, but we need to start moving forward. We know it but nobody wants to talk about it. I
just think its time to call it what is.
Its time to start preparing your consciousness. Its not going to be a matter of strength, or
physical endurance, per se. Its going to come down to this. Biologically the world is changing
rapidly. Remember what we said earlier about what used to be done in a hundred years is being
done in ten years. Now whatever happens in ten years happens in one year. Its tremendous.
Were now on the threshold of moving into a different frequency. When that frequency changes, I
think its going to affect the entire grid of civilization. Theres going to be people who can adapt
to that, and then theres going to be people who are still muddling around. It comes down to that
and a lot more. Does that help to answer your question? Okay. Questions?
Student: What is the significance of the timing of this gathering?
Eric: This particular gathering right here? Well, lets just say that you are all the first. I expect
great things from all of you. I think you all already know that, and the significance is that this is
the beginning of what I think is going to be a huge movement. We are not few. Today we may be
few, but, we are many. I believe that each one of the people here is going to affect a lot of other
people, and this is going to affect the consciousness. There will always be red cells. Some people
think were all going to become white cells. Not true. The Earth still needs red cells for its
function. It has an agenda too.
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You could say there is no substitute for age, because it gives wisdom. I look at myself as I
grow older but I think I wouldnt give it up! I like the idea of youth, but if I had to trade what I
know, I would never give it up in a million years. We are entering a point where the world is
going to have this conscious shift in its reflection. Part of that reflection is going to come from the
masters that are walking on the Earth. There will be more masters on the Earth than there ever has
been in history. That is whats going to move this to the next level. Of course, theres always a
resistance, especially to this happening. Well have to deal with that appropriately when that time
comes. But the significance of this group, in itself, is a harmonic marker of a conscious shift on
the planet.
We may seem like few, but you have to keep in mind, even if we may not think of
ourselves as a large group, never has a group of so many people with this particular frequency
gathered. You all know when you walk out in the world now. Most of you have developed
enough now to know theres something very different about what you know now, than the rest of
the world. I hate to say that; in a way its a little bit sad. Do you know what Im saying? But there
is this sense that nothing is quite doing it out there anymore for you. Theres this sense of
detachment, but also a yearning to attach to something. This is what happens when you spiritually
grow. Its not all just, Oh Im a flower child today. Yay! You have this sadness because you
know theres this greater beauty, this greater something and youve experienced it from
moment to moment and this is part of your own evolution.
And you know you have to function along with the rest of the world now. Youve got to
work your job; you have to pay your bills; you have to deal with the kids; you have to deal with
the husband or the wife. Theres this part of you saying, I hope Im doing what I need to do, but I
know this cant be it! Many of you here now have already entered into an Enlightenment Cycle.
You may not realize that, but you have. The thing thats holding you back right now is the sense
of you feeling too arrogant to believe that you are. Does that make sense? Its the sense of saying,
Oh, I cant be. Im not where Eric is, or these other people. Hogwash! Believe me, you are!
The sooner you can accept that, the faster you will move. Does that make sense for
everybody? Dont be afraid to acknowledge how far youve come! I will pit any student of mine
against any school of teaching. Maybe they may not know all the terminologies, but I guarantee
you can have a physics teacher sit down, or a spiritual teacher sit down and they are in awe! Look
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at the people who work for Star Reach. Look how young they are! Look what they know! We
have people twenty, thirty years in different groups, and theyre like, This is amazing!
Well, you guys are now that cutting edge. You are the ones who found us. Youre the ones
who actually siphoned out of all the other organizations. Most people dont know that weve
touched over ten thousand people who have bought the material. A lot of people dont know that.
In essence, you guys are now the cream of that crop thats surfacing. Whether youve been in the
program a long term or short term, you came here knowing that this is part of hearing what it is
you need to hear.
Basically, what you need to do is begin to acknowledge that enlightenment isnt always
this glow that theyve shown us in pictures or what weve been told. Its not about levitating!
Some people know Ive done certain miracles or whatever you want to call them. But, thats not
really what its about. When it really comes down to the line, believe me, youll be able to do
more than you can imagine. Okay? Everybody here also knows that.
In this reality we hold ourselves back because society tells us, Dont be too proud. Dont
be too arrogant. There is a difference between arrogance and being proud. You can be confident.
When somebody says, Well youre awful arrogant. Im not arrogant. Im confident. I assert
myself. I point out where I think theres a difference. I dont go numb. I dont let this incorrect
information continue. I say, Hey, wait a minute! Were taught to sit back and not say anything,
and not to speak and not to create any turbulence. We need to start creating some turbulence! If
its the truth, then it will hold up. And thats why I put out what I have to put out. Itll hold up.
But all of you, not to flatter your egos, youre here for truly a reason. I dont want to beat
that statement down, but everybody here knows theres something much bigger over the horizon.
Thats what its really about. And of course Im not putting it all out there. Theres this saying
that, Were not the only ones here who are all listening. We dont want to give our position up.
Lets put it that way. Does that work for you? Good. Question?
Student: First of all, I want to say that I appreciated very much what you just said. I think you
have pretty much answered the primary question that I had and the reason that Ive come here.
Last night, we were talking in a group and there were a few of us that said that we have never,
no matter where we have been, really felt like we belonged. And I think its because there is a
very deep and profound awareness that we are different. I refer to it as shape-shifting. I feel like
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Ive had to, since the beginning of my incarnation, turn down the volume of the light thats there.
Then what happened is that I forgot where the volume switch was. And now Im noticing that I
can adjust the volume. And sometimes beyond my conscious awareness, the volume gets
adjusted. And its beyond me. But I honor it whenever it does happen, because I do have that very
innate and very deep trust.
Its not about being stuck, but one place that I may still be confused or resistant, is I sense
that to everything there is a season, a time, and a purpose and Im beginning to trust that more and
more. But if you intentionally shape-shift and keep the volume down, youre not threatening. And
Ive found that for quite a few years, the dormancy that you speak about was not to be
threatening. But then I started to believe on some level I was a threat and I forgot. I even went
deeper into the dormancy. Now with what youre talking about, I think that were all here for the
support. What you just said so articulately, is to honor yourself, to not feel that its an egocentric
thing but to find your strength, to accept the strength and the potency that is the power and to be
able to really work with that and expand more into it. With Kerri, Ive used this phrase, To be in
this world, but not of it.
Eric: Absolutely.
Student: Thats what I feel Im really working towards right now. Im not even so sure its a
question, but the feeling I have. What really provoked it was that over your right shoulder about
three feet above your head I saw a flash of light, so I know theres company. I see that light as
part of my life. But if you wouldnt mind sharing, where is the source of the information you are
sharing? Would you share with us home? Where is it?
Eric: Youre in it. Its not here or there. This is human thinking. Human thinking is, Ive got to
fly home. Ive got to drive home. Human thinking is, This is a place. Thats a place.
Everything is categorized. Youre in home.
Everybody think about their body right now. There are millions of cells in your body. Lets
just get down to one single cell in your body. A red cell, a white cell, a regular skin cell, or any
cell you want. Now you ask it, Where is home? When you can have that revelation and accept
it, because thats the problem, you can acknowledge it, but acknowledging and accepting are two
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very different things. When you accept that, thats when I would say that God will approach you.
Its as if somewhere in your own mind you say, Hello, little cell. How are you guys doing
there?
You want to feel complete. You dont feel completion because you have not accepted that
youre part of something. You see yourself individual, and in a sense you identify with, This is
who I am. Thats what were taught since childhood. You have a name; your name is different.
This is who you are; this is what you are. And some people say, Well, dont minimize me by
describing who or what I am. This is human. It gives us a sense of fear belonging to something
bigger. We feel like were displaced. We feel displaced and we wander around going, Well, what
is it?! God is right here. I always say, look at how we interpret with our brains.
A good example is, Do, Re, Mi, Fa, So. Theyre all harmonized. But we choose to hear
just Do or Re. So is here right now. Right here at this very moment. What do I say when
you meditate? I say, People who pray to God, talk at God. They say, I need a new pair of
shoes. Rosy needs a new roof on the house, blah, blah, blah. When you meditate, you listen to
God. This is about surrender. This is about manifestation. This is about everything that I keep
putting out. Its about just letting yourself move into this other place and when you do that you
move up an octave. Do you see what Im saying? You go into Do, Re, Mi, moving into So.
When you hit So, thats it! Thats when you know, God, I have to go back down there again?!
What was the point? I worked so hard to get here. Well, then you have to bring along a few
people.
Student: Thats what I meant about shape-shifting.
Eric: There is the fluctuation?
Student: Yes, the fluctuation is part of it and theres the propensity to forget, or to get stuck or to
have a blank spot. I have to admit that theres always that awareness at the same time.
Eric: Absolutely. Well, this is what I have to say on the matter. One, we must acknowledge the
beauty in this world. Were so busy trying to find completion that we often separate ourselves
from the beauty thats around us. And Im not just talking trees and flowers. I mean people.
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Theres a disdain in us sometimes, and Im calling it what it is, towards other red cells. I sit there
and say, God, Im part of this human race? Can you imagine that? But its a part of us. So were
trying to get out of here and looking at all of them and I think, in part, we have to accept in whole
with all of our heart whats here.
It is absolutely stunningly beautiful. I often joke amongst students in the office, I cant wait to
get off the rock. And theyre like, You dont want that, why are you saying that?! They get
mad. And I say, Well, Im bored with this and that. But its not bad. I marvel at the beauty of
this dimension. I marvel at the sounds and textures and the colors and the view and it just goes on
and on and on. And this helps me harmonize.
If Im trying to find God and Im saying, God is all around us, every spiritual teacher is
saying this already. This is nothing new. We can experience It now with the sixth sense that I talk
about, instead of shunning It. We can experience the Now with not just five senses, but pull the
sixth sense into the picture and receive it with a bigger palate. This, of course, helps oscillate your
energy, per se. It makes it more harmonic. I think that many spiritual people spend all their time
trying to shun life and society and remote themselves, that they have to remember, To have one
foot in this world, and not to be there and say, Well, I hate it. Appreciate it. And then the other
part needs to find that spiritual aspect and somehow we have to unite them and bring them all
together. When we can do that, thats when we find that perfect pitch. Thats when these higher
states of consciousness start to move.
Student: And thats what I feel is the next step. Im working on that. Im strengthening that.
Eric: Its work. It doesnt come easily and Id say to everybody here complaining that its a raw
deal. It is. But, you all chose to be here. Youre all the very best at what you do and this is why
you were selected to be here. Im not just talking in this room. I mean in this world. Thats what
you have to remember. You are the fighters. You will awaken in this reality. And when you
awaken, it will change the face of reality. It will change the face of the world.
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Student: Eric Pepin puts you in touch with the higher consciousness that is within us and
connected to everything. That's where I'm at right now.
Student: We are here for answers to the big questions. That's a big one. You can't get much bigger
than that. Why are we here? It's a secret. The short answer is that we're here to experience.
Eric: I wanted to talk a little bit about ego and arrogance. When I was growing up, I was
indoctrinated into doing psychic work by my father. In essence, I learned not to be afraid to do
what I do. I did amazing things for a young prodigy. That came from not knowing any different. I
would go to school and a lot of the other kids knew that I was a psychic. The school teachers soon
found out that I could do psychic stuff so they would trap me at recess and I would do psychic
work for them. The school bus lady would track me on the school bus and make certain that my
house was the last stop so that she could ask me questions. I was always doing psychic stuff. It
never occurred to me to lie about what I do. When someone asked, Id always say, I'm a
psychic. Theyd ask, Well, what's that? Id say, Oh, I predict the future. I heal people. I do
astral projection and I bring my friends. Most families wouldn't have answers. They would have
just said, Sweetie, don't tell anybody and don't say anything.
It goes back to the confidence level. Everybody here has fear. There are different kinds of
fear. The particular fear that I am talking about is the fear of you being who you think you are.
Does everybody understand that? Its the fear of saying, I am a spiritual master. I am profoundly
gifted. I can do miracles. Everybody here knows it and you all should be ashamed of yourself for
not letting that out. We're afraid. Again, this gets back to social structure. Nobody wants to be
labeled, The nut.
If you remove these things, what makes somebody like me? Why do I stand out?
Everybody here knows that I'm not saying anything new. You know this already. You sit there,
read my book and then say, I absolutely agree. I couldn't have said it better. You hear my
material and it makes perfect sense because you know it all already. Why am I different? Its
because I was born with a big mouth and Im not afraid to use it. Every single skill that you have
psychically or spiritually is minuscule compared to your potential. Your fear holds you back. If
you heal somebody, you don't vocalize it. You don't say it. As much as you want it to happen,
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youre aware of a resistance. You're conscious of it. Feel it here if I'm right. You almost feel it as
a little pressure.
When most people do testing in various institutes, the skeptics say, How come they can't
perform under observation? Why can't they perform under test circumstances to re-create it
consistently? They cant perform under observation because of their governor. That governor is
fear. For example, I was driving the other day to meet everybody at this event. I got out of my car,
ready to meet everybody. I was excited because all of these people knew me and they all were
going to be happy for me. I got to the door and saw everybody. Then my heart started beating
crazily. Here I was, the great leader, getting ready to go out there. I wanted to say, Give me a
cocktail fast! Its the same thing for most people spiritually. I can only bring it down so fast. I
did what I had to do but it was minimal. Everybody here really knows my capabilities.
Everybody's heard me go into the zone.
We're doing the same thing spiritually because we're afraid to let this power and this
intensity out. We have our own different kind of governor that's preventing it from coming out.
We are told constantly that were arrogant if we talk about doing this or that. People tell us that
we shouldn't have ego when we do spiritual stuff. If I'm healing the sick and Im being arrogant or
cocky, or if I'm giving out great information that's helping people, please put up with my shit for a
while and you'll make out really well. I think that it's just the fear of being labeled. Be confident.
Be strong. Don't be afraid of the judgment. When you can start to work with that, you'll have
bigger breakthroughs.
If you're going to do a psychic reading or predict the future, don't be afraid to be wrong.
Have room for error. Believe it or not, this raises your accuracy. As soon as you know that it's
okay to be a little wrong, it somehow eases your fear of giving information. It's a two-way mind
trick. Tell people that you're going to role-play and that youre just going to predict their future.
Do this as an experiment. Tell them that you're going to fake being a gypsy, or that you're going
to fake being a psychic reader. When you do it, the people will sit there with their mouths wide
open and say, Thats accurate. You're serious about this. Do you know my sister or something?
It all boils down to confidence.
When we're under the microscope, we panic and there's a lockup. I have lockups.
Everybody has them. Ive just learned to control it more than others. Im pretty cocky at times.
Don't be afraid to be a bit bolder. Give yourself some wiggle room. I'm 98 percent accurate.
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Thats a two percent margin for error and I feel good about that. So here I am. Sue me. That goes
for anything I tell you. It's about being able to cut loose and let that raw power out.
Begin in your meditation. Begin in the privacy of your own space. Bring someone in and
know your intention. Stop thinking about what you want to do. Just do it. Acknowledgment is
very important. The best readers are the ones where you do a reading and you need the person to
say, Wow, that's amazing! Yeah, that's correct! They're helping the psychic because theyre
leading them and that's how they're filtering the information. The vast majority of psychics out
there are not very good. There are a lot of frauds. Acknowledgment is necessary because it makes
you get even more accurate or more detailed. You're encouraging them without really giving them
any information. You're just confirming whether they got a hit or not. Maybe they're vague at
first. After that encouragement, you can then push them for greater details and test them. It's about
getting over that fear factor.
Student: Eric, Ive got a real quick comment. Even if we try to hide the power that we have, it's
not possible. I'm a body worker and over the last couple of years, I've been getting calls from
people saying, I hear you're a medical intuitive. It's not on my card. I've never told anybody that
I do that but it constantly keeps coming up.
Eric: But you're out there. You're doing it. They're still restraining you in certain ways. You've
just angled that to certain areas. There's always leakage and overflow in different ways, whether it
comes out paranormal or through group consciousness. I think that that's what is happening here.
Do you have a question?
Student: Ive been thinking about some of the other meditation systems that I've done where
everything is good for a while and then you go into the desert and it's like a waveform with ups
and downs. With Higher Balance, I still have those desert type experiences. Is that something that
is just always built in?
Eric: Is there anybody here who hasn't gone through any dry moments in your meditation at any
time? Is it always a hundred percent? Everybody goes through that. You have to remember that
you're working with an organic brain. You're pushing it and there've got to be times where you
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give it a little bit of downtime. During that downtime, you just have to say to yourself, I'm going
to switch into a different kind of meditation. I'm going to do more walking. Walking is
meditation. Im going to go sit out in a park. I like to cook. There are drawbacks to that
meditation but it is a meditation. Do you see what I'm saying? Your mind separates from the
demands of life and you get into this zone of doing what you're doing.
The best meditation is obviously going to be the main one which we teach. But sometimes
it's okay to deter it. Everybody here thinks that I meditate every single day. I have points where I
step away and do other things. I might have to spend a week walking through the park. Or maybe
I'll just take a week off and read out of a book. You have to remember to get yourself back on the
mill. That's the trick. I can go in so many directions without even meditating now.
Don't get down on yourself if you take some downtime. Don't take more than two or three
weeks off. What are you going to do? First of all, you have to accept that it is normal. You're not a
failure. You're not going to lose everything. Your energy may take a dip but youve got to
remember that there could be seasonal reasons for this. You're only human. You should be
watching your diet and what's happening in your life. There are some people who have negative
energy. There are vampires. They're not out sucking your blood, but there are people who literally
will take your energy from you. There are people who don't know they're doing it and there are
people who do it willfully. This gets back to the Darkside stuff again.
Now, you've got to accept those factors. Is your house really dark all of a sudden? Was
there a change? You've got to respect the human body because you're here and it's going to have a
direct effect on your consciousness. If you are ill or you have the flu, do you feel like running
around shopping and taking care of things? No, it's the same thing. If you dont watch what you
eat or what you do, there could be subtle changes in your consciousness that apply to your life. So
you have to look at everything. Nine times out of ten, there is a reason. You have to find the
cause. It's not just random. Something is going on and you have to acknowledge your weaknesses.
Your greatest strength is acknowledging your weaknesses. That's what you have to do. Dont get
bummed out because you've hit a low point. Early on when I was meditating, I would take some
really desert trips. I didn't do any meditating. Then I would go into a meditation and I would hit
such high levels that I would be shocked. Sometimes you just need that downtime and then you
turn it into uptime. You have to remember to never go off so far that you forget to come back to
what you need to do. There is no excuse not to meditate for any great length of time. Your
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greatest breakthroughs are going to come during the time periods that you've been meditating in
your life. It's the fastest way to take control. If you're bummed out, find time to meditate because
it's going to harbor you through that storm. If you don't do it, you're going to get beat up and
banged up and thrown up on the shore and then kicked back in the water. You just have to trust
that this is going to ride you through and it will.
Student: You mentioned that we are white cells and that we are fighters. Do you mean that we are
waiting for a moment to come when we will be helping the world? We are talking about having
one foot in this world and one foot in the path that we chose to go. It's kind of like a dilemma. I
don't know whether it's going to be a general thing or it's going to be a very personal thing. Every
day I meditate and then I go to work and Im back in the Doe again. I'm trying to be mindful. In
some of the CDs, you mention that you have to be selfish. You have to go away and grow up.
Then you can come back. So it always comes back to what you said. In what sense are we
fighters? Should we wait for that moment to come or should we really take action now and grow
up?
Eric: Well, rest assured that no one can relate to that at all. (Laughter) So, everybody relates. If
this is the way it is, why are you sitting here? Why did you to choose to be here? Your answer is
already there. You've already begun to fight. It's not about wrestling somebody. It's not about
beating them over the head. First of all, you have to fight to survive in this world. The next fight
is to awaken. You're all fighting to awaken right now. You're all fighting to gain a foothold of this
higher state of consciousness. This is a fight. Are you not exhausted? Are you not tired of your
high days and your low days and having to deal with life? This is a fight. Do I choose to work
here? Do I choose to move? Where would I be better positioned for this? You're in the fight right
now. Figuring that you made it here, I'd say you're putting up a good fight.
So what is it? I use this word a lot and half the time I don't pronounce it correctly. The
word is subtle [suht-l] versus subtle [sub-tell]. Subtle means that we don't recognize what's right
in front of us. It's right in front of you. You're in this fight and you're feeling this anxiety. Where
does anxiety come from? It comes because you're trying to cope or overcome something. So your
fight begins by meditating. This is how you give him the one punch. Next, listen to some of the
other stuff. Trying it out gives you the two punch. You want to break out of this sleep that keeps
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pulling you in. Youre fighting a sumo wrestler. You're in a big fight and youve got to get in the
zone. Do not build your spirituality around your life. Build your life around your spirituality. I
didn't say to remove your life. I didn't say not to accept it. It's part of the whole but you have to
say that there is a reason for your regimen. There's a reason why spiritual people might put their
teacher up on a frame. It's not because they're like Allah-rama. I hope not.
It's because this is an inspiration to you. I want to resonate similar to this person's energy. I
want to be on this person's level. Now that you know, I have off points, too. It's okay. The bell can
ring. It's okay to sit in the corner and go, Oh my God! That's a heck of a fighter. So what do you
do? Youre going to get in the ring and give him a one-two punch in the gut. That's what I'm
doing. You're going to be a prize fighter. You're working your way up through the ranks. Where
were you before all of this? You were asleep somewhere, dwindling in the dream world about
awakening, knowing there was something more to reality. You decided to go for it. So you
pushed the envelope. Everybody was saying, You better go back to this religion or that religion.
This is fighting. We're fighters. We're fighting. We're going to awaken. That's what we're here to
do. Once we've figured it out, we get our tools. We learn our skills. We learn from a good teacher.
Eventually, you end up teaching others. You take it on. You teach more of them.
So fighting is one context of awakening. Know your enemy: rain, wakening, the machine,
the matrix. Call it whatever you will. On another level, that there are beings who have chosen a
different path. They've chosen to suppress, to control and to consistently construct others in a
certain way. This can be done both on a sociological level with dictators but also spiritually.
There are spiritual teachers out there who are doing this exact thing and they're not positive.
They're not for the light. They're not for growth. They focus on controlling, dominating and
making clones. You have to shave your head a certain way. You have to dress a certain way and
that's that. There is no creativity. So this is your second group.
As for the third kind of group, I wont name them because I dont want to be sued. But
there are some big organizations out there that I truly feel are what would be storm troopers for
the Darkside. Everything they do from start to finish is Darkside. Im in awe that they can even
say, Okay, you see the light. See the light. See it shrinking. See it dimming. Then theres nothing
there. You're unplugging yourself from the very thing that's giving you consciousness! Then
there are all these fake groups around who pretend that they're real. Theyre saying, This is going
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to free you because of this or that reason. Believe me, there are some very dark forces in this
world. Does that help you understand?
Student: Yes.
Student: I want to talk about time travel. I read the book that you talked about last night. So I
decided to go to Starbucks. I wasnt certain how much time I had. I realized that the book says
that the higher you go, time slows down. So I walked uphill to Starbucks and arrived back right
on time. It was amazing.
Eric: Supposedly, we do have Starbucks. Okay, I want to know where it is sometime.
Student: As I read the Handbook of the Navigator, the Darkside stayed on my mind. Sometimes
it feels like Im watching or reading a Star Wars episode again. I don't want it to be that way. In
some part of me, I want to understand. Could you talk about the Darkside? I just have so many
problems thinking about such a thing because it starts to play on duality light versus dark.
Eric: Absolutely, this is not the first time that I've heard this. I do get this quite often and it's a
reasonable level-headed statement. It sometimes seems really simple. Over the years, weve had
movies that come out. Before movies, we would have stage productions with symphonies. These
were all inspired and created by individual beings. I'm not saying that George Lucas is a white
cell necessarily, but it's not beyond the consciousness of the Earth to isolate a resource to create
that conception. When you look at the brain, we have regions. In that region, if you were to zoom
in, you're going to get to isolated areas. Who knows what sparks what in there? It's being
conceived from somewhere and then it spreads.
When I see movies throughout history, Im amazed at how perfect they were for the times.
Its interesting that everybody grasped that concept. On the same token, there are many people
who would go, How is that even possible? You're definitely not one of the ones that didn't
relate to the concept of the Darkside versus the Force. We look at it, sitting on the edge of our
seats, saying, This makes sense. It speaks to me. The planet works on many levels in its own
format to create consciousness. We are the collective, the neural system of the planet. We're
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becoming more complicated as we progress and we populate. When I see a movie come out, I
believe that this is an influence that's trying to shift the masses or contribute to a higher level of
consciousness.
The storm troopers are taken from two areas. There's a lot of Vedic information in there
concerning the Force and those concepts. These are ancient teachings. On the same token, it's real
life. Lucas has obviously borrowed from real world tragedies, like Hitler and the Gestapo. There
is a level of truth to the story and it simply got put into a fictional sense. There is a force behind a
lot of this. This stuff is inspired by life. They create life and they embellish it. Where is the source
of the embellishment? Where is the source of concepts that come from your own mind? Where
does true genius come from? Before anybody sees it or knows it, where is it spawned from? In
some ways, this is the planet's consciousness collectively working a single cell to create and
manifest on another dimensional level where we exist. Timely inspiration is what comes out. It's
the same story over and over again.
If you look at Star Wars and the Greek Gods and tragedies, its the same story with a
different ending. So the same stories were told throughout history. This is a simple confirmation
of what the planet and the Universe is trying to say to certain individuals to awaken them. The
planet is evolutionary like anything else. As much as we procreate, it will procreate. We can sense
fear. We can internally sense danger. We internally know when to approach something with
caution. Its no different for the planet communicating within itself. What is the old saying? Life
mimics non-reality and non-reality reflects life. There's a truth there. When we talk about the
Darkside, there's an underlying truth of information that's spurning us to really look at this
concept. There's a truth behind it. Does that work for you?
Student: Does the Darkside exist outside of this dimension?
Eric: No, it's that simple. I know that I'm not going to get out if it. Much of what I describe is
from an inner knowing. Most of the time, it's about trying to find the words to describe it
properly. Things can be interpreted in many ways. Afterward, I sometimes think of a better way
of interpreting it. But it could go on forever if I do that.
Being in a human consciousness, we see things according to size. How big is it? When we
think of the Universe, we immediately put a size on it. We dont know how big it is, but in our
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brain, we've got the edges of it. If I say the word planet, youve got a ball in your head. If I say,
The Solar System, youve got a picture of a little solar system. When we think of the Darkside,
immediately we're trying to categorize it for size. That's the big question for us. How big is it?
Then I can categorize it in my head. Well, we know it's big. God moved into this dimension in an
event which we call, The Big Bang. Moving into this dimension, Gods frequency within the
Body of God began to change. When it happened, there was a natural reaction. This is what
created the Big Bang. Its very cool stuff for God. So you have matter forming within this
coexistence of other energies, meaning God's consciousness. For every action, there's an equal
and opposite reaction for a dimension. This caused the birth of the opposing force - the Darkside
of creating matter and life.
The Force is here with the intention to expand, but there is a natural, opposite reaction that
wants the removal of matter, meaning life and existence. These two forces are at odds with each
other in this dimension. When I say this dimension, its because this is the dimension where that
frequency occurred. It gave birth to this counterforce of energy that's become its own kind of
intelligence. It does not exist outside in these other frequencies. Everybody has this knowing. We
all learned about heaven and hell. Ask yourself internally, Is there a place that we consider the
Darkside? There is. Maybe we call it Hell. I want you to tell me about the higher levels. Can
you put containment on it? Do you feel the containment? It's almost as if it's infinitive. Do you
see? You have the inner truth already in you. You didn't cap it. You already know. It is primarily
in this dimension. Theres a big battle for existence that's perpetually going on not only in our
solar system, but throughout the Universe. There's this friction of energy that's essentially going
on. The Darkside is saying, "No more growth; no more expansion." And the Universe is saying,
"Well, I really have to know what this is all about. This is very interesting. They are two
opposing forces. We all feel the curiosity. We are one with God. Like the cells in your body, we're
curious. So is the Universe curious in itself. Does that help?
Student: Great.
Eric: Thank you. Go ahead.
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Student: Do you think that there are any working energy devices like the Tesla oscillator or any
energy manipulating devices that actually work?
Eric: Are we talking on a paranormal level?
Student: Yes.
Eric: Well, most people are shocked. They would think that I'm into crystals and pyramids and
stuff like that. I'm really not. I've never seen one that has really impressed me. But I can't say that
I've worked with everything either. I really haven't found a use beyond what I can do by
manipulating my own energies and manifesting them. Most things that others find astonishing are
really obsolete. I know that sounds cocky but it is what it is. People are constantly looking for a
device to take them to the next level. We don't want to earn it. We don't want to work for it. We
look at reality. We've built machines. We've done all these different things and we want to now
take that technology and simplify spiritual awakening. Again, the big problem is that we're using
our organic brains to interpret how it's going to be done. That's the biggest hurdle. I find that a lot
of the devices are good but they're still angled at physical reactions that are not necessarily higher
dimensionally or psychically enough for me.
Having said that, we came out with Magneurol (which has since been replaced by
Magnetic Pill), because I do believe that theres an organic bridge there. I believe that you have to
deal with the human, physical body to tap into the energy fields that are all around us. Putting
magnetite into Magneurol makes you more sensitive to these magnetic fields. It may not catapult
you spiritually, but it will give you the ability to turn on other sensory.
Are there machines out there that can have paranormal capabilities? I havent seen
anything yet. For the record, there are several devices that we are working on. There are some
projects that we just could not afford to do. In electrical circuits, there are high levels of ionization
in the air. Thats why you smell the electricity. I feel that there's a little truth to every folk tale.
In New England, there are a lot of higher level experiences with ghosts and knockings.
These things happen at night when there are no photons from light to break up. Maybe a spiritual
body makes it more difficult. I think that a lot of audio hauntings are recorded in the old walls. It
is acoustically impacted in there. When theres air pressure, a house creaks, releasing energy. This
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acts like a natural speaker. But instead of people two hundred years ago playing cards and
laughing, it just one day freakishly records that sound. When the sound is coming out, it's not
acoustically perfect, so its muffled. Youre asking, What the heck was that? So removing all of
these things leaves you with three answers. We cant just buy into the spiritual because we must
be skeptical. You should even be skeptical with me. I implore you to do this. When we're not
skeptical enough, we lose our spiritual path because we're following these things or wasting our
time. You only have so much time to find what you're looking for in this life before you move on.
So select carefully and always come up with three reasonable answers and deduce it to the best
one. If it's metaphysical or spiritual, so be it. Don't just assume that everything is metaphysical.
There might be logical answers that explain everything.
The device that I would like to create is an electrical arc. I'm sure you have seen electrical
things that produce a static charge that mimics the same one that comes from electrical storms. It
would be highly concentrated in a home if you set it up. My suspicion is that entities come
through dimensionally. I use the word entities because I'm not saying they're evil or good or that
they are people or whatever. That's a very expansive area and it's a whole lecture in itself.
Entities need this type of electricity in order to bridge from their dimension to here. I
believe that they use this ionization. It's like clothing or some kind of material that gives them
mass in this dimension. When it fades away, they fade away. When they can pull it together and
hold it together from that source, they can react more in our dimension. In my opinion, this is a
device that's worth investigating.
Other devices that strongly interest me involve magnetization. Im not interested where it
picks up metal. Basically, our reality is held together by a form of magnetics. Bend that and you
can move through to other physical realities or bend time or do a number of things. So we want to
invest in some research to experiment with that. One of the students that Ive had for many years
made the mistake of saying to me that if I could convince him that God exists, he'd follow me for
the rest of his life. He's got two PhDs so I worked hard on him. He's been around a long time so
he's someone we have lined up to work on some of these things. So if we blow ourselves up, it
kind of happens.
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Student: I have to do this because I want to demonstrate to you that not only did I come here but
I've been paying attention. It's about the statement of coming forward and proclaiming things. So I
cannot in good conscience sit here without announcing that I am awake. I have had an awakening.
Eric: Excellent.
Student: Unfortunately, it was in a school that didnt want us to seek spiritual experiences because
they believed that it wouldn't lead to an awakening. After I awakened, I realized that one cant
awaken without the sixth sense.
Eric: Right.
Student: Being awakened, I agree with that one hundred percent.
Eric: Thank you.
Student: That's what happened to me. I began to enter into different states of thought, but I cannot
do it deliberately.
Eric: I understand that. We'll go into that today.
Student: I had a talk with Frank at dinner last night about experiencing the limitation that I place
on myself through fear. Can you suggest something about this place that I'm in?
Eric: Okay, let me say a few things. As for the sense of really letting go, in part you're holding it
back. The Universe also holds you back intentionally so that you learn enough to know what
you're doing when you open that Pandora's Box. So part of it is you being afraid to let it loose but
there's a reason why it's not letting it come out really full-blown. For some people, there's a box.
You can't force the box open. You can't willfully open the box. But the box can be opened. Most
people scratch their head on that. This can be used as a metaphor for a lot of things. In this
particular case, it's about letting go. It's the same thing with a flower bud. It's a bud. You can't
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open it, but it isnt perfect. If you do, it's ruined. It's not the same. But there's a moment where it
opens because of surrendering. Surrendering is really the secret link to you removing the fear of
being who you are and letting that really enormous power out. You can't control it with your
brain. You have to surrender it or find a way to let go and trust that your consciousness is going to
let it go. The problem is that we can't let go of our consciousness. That is why we put the material
out. I don't know how far along you are in the material but as you apply it, it will lead to this
enfoldment. We have people who've hit those levels. I can't isolate who they are but there is a CD
that most of you may not know about. We have controlled the release of it.
Student: Bending Reality.
Eric: Yes, did you listen to it?
Student: No.
Eric: Well, it's about people sharing their own experiences or things that they have seen me do.
You will have experiences. You can't say to the Universe, Let's move it. I expect in the next ten
minutes that it's going to happen! The Universe is going to look at you like you would look at a
five year old, saying, Get in there and make this for me now! Its as if the child is pulling on
your shirt and you saying back, I'll do it when I'm ready.
So, I think we're all a bit anxious and we all want it now. I'm trying to put this material out
there, saying, Do this and you'll experience this. You'll experience that, but different people
have different complexities. The more that you analyze it, the more it almost works against you.
The people who are the easiest, free flowing, are saying, Wow, I see the energy. Maybe they're
just not analyzing things so much. Theyre experiencing interesting things while were sitting here
saying, They're out of their mind!
There is what I call octave control. You control a lot of your own experiences. I don't like
using the word faith. I dont mean that in a negative way. By opening yourself up to this, you
increase your octave and your energy fields. That's what allows you to see things. Some people
say, As a spiritual teacher, why do you send people to haunted houses? Haunted houses are
beyond normal and everyday and its not easy to dismiss for the analytical person. If I saw
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something that freaked me out and that was unearthly, I couldnt logically dismiss it. I know it
wasn't a cat. I know it wasn't this. I know it wasn't that. So it removes governors. If I tell you to do
this or do that, youll have a particular experience. It raises your octave to open your mind
towards things.
I try to find unique ways to intrigue people who have different tastes. It opens the doorway
for them to try different things so they'll have that breakthrough. If you use my material, then
you're going to have that breakthrough. I'm confident of it. Just keep applying it. You almost have
to surrender analyzing whats going on. Don't analyze when youre starting out. Do it when
you've finished. It opens the door for you to have the experience and then you could say, What
the hell was that?!?" If you analyze it first, you slow everything down and it can't come through.
Then you're exactly where you were. Expect nothing. That's the real trick of things. Does that help
at all to answer your question?
Student: Yes, it does. It's not that I lack confidence. It's just in reference to that heavy feeling of
the resistance. I feel that.
Eric: Oh, now weve got to go to work mode. Let's take a nice quick deep breath in. (Everybody
breathes in.) I have so much material out there that sometimes I'm wondering whether we
recorded this yet or not. I don't even know what we have out there half the time. I just put it out
there and they run with it. I know it sounds horrible, but we have so much material now.
I wanted to talk about energy. Everything comes down to energy. If there's anything you
need to remember, it is energy. We must think in terms of energy.
There are two topics that I want to discuss with you. The first is technique. We're going to
talk about some energy movements. It's important for you to become conscientious of the subtle
energies that are in your body. The more that you can consciously go, I felt that or I can do
that removes more of the wiring from the governor. That gives you great potential to step
forward with what we talked about before. It's confidence.
We're going to talk about some simple things. In the center of your brain is your pineal
gland. I believe this is primarily the seed of the organic psychic ability in your body. This is
where it originates. There are basically three parts of the human brain. First, theres the reptilian
part which is in the centre of your brain. Its smaller than a fist. Then theres the mammalian part,
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which grew over that and became more complex. Then theres the neocortex which is the larger
kind of frontal lobe that really makes us who we are right now. So we've left behind the primitive
part and we've advanced. Within the primitive part, there's some very good wiring to plug you
into the Force or into energy. This is what animals are using because they haven't really
developed most of the advanced human parts. This is why a horse will know there is a snake over
the hill or why wolves will know whether another wolf has genetic differences.
We're not using these regions enough so heres a technique to help with this. Imagine a
spot about the size of your finger inside your head, right between your eyes, straight back several
inches. Now wiggle it forward and backward (with your finger), forward and backward. Some
people might argue that there are no muscles in the brain so you can't feel anything. Okay, now
that weve got that out of the way, let's do it anyway. Sometimes it's not about what is really
organically going on.
For a few moments, just concentrate and wiggle it forward and backward. Keep in mind
that I often get a headache from it. It's usually a pressure right in the front after a while. So you
need to know when youve done it enough. I probably have this area fairly well developed. For
me, it's very easy to do and almost overpowering. I probably do it on a regular basis. It stimulates
that portion of the brain that is designed to communicate that final sixth sense. If there are motor
gears for you to talk and motor gears for you to walk and move your body, there are motor gears
for everything else. This is the motor gear that's designed to plug you in. As soon as you give it
proper attention and consciousness, it's going to begin its wiring process to plug you in and give
you that extra sensory to get you there.
Just take a few seconds and close your eyes. Take a nice breath in. Breathe out. Relax your
body. See if you can move it forward and backward now. While Im talking, keep your eyes shut.
If youve got it going on, just ignore me. If you don't feel something, dont over analyze. Don't
worry about whether youre moving it forward or not. Don't worry if you're making your
eyebrows move. This is the problem. Don't worry about it. If you're moving your eyebrows,
you're still thinking about the center of your brain. In the end, its still the same result. That's what
you have to know. You're still getting to the core of what you want to do.
Some people will certainly feel that region. That's a good thing. Some people tend to do it
very quickly. Other people will take a few moments to do it in and out from there. This is also
where you hear stories about the third eye or the mind's eye. This is where these teachings come
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from. There's a lot of ancient truth to this. Of course, this is one of the things that most people
dont teach you. In the hidden schools, this is exactly what they're teaching. Open your eyes now.
Was everybody able to focus on that fairly well? Did you get a sense of where that was and how
to do that?
I'm almost scared to do the next thing because I shocked my system one time doing it. It
was a physical shock. So you better remember that your muscles are electrically stimulated. If I
open my hand and I close it, it's because my brain is calculating precisely the electricity to
stimulate the muscles to expand and retract. I'm now going to show you a way to start
manipulating that electricity. This is still energy whether it is more physically oriented or not.
Energy is energy. You're teaching it that there's something more to you. We are trying to
stimulate other regions of our brain in this particular area. We want to turn more of it on. We want
to get the psychic part running. We want to jump start it.
A simple technique that one can do is to take your hand and bring it to your navel. Breath
is very significant. Breathe in and pull your hand up (inhales). This may take some people a week
to get down right. It just takes a little bit of time. Some people get it right off the bat. You want to
envision that you're pulling energy up. You're pulling something from your lower region and
you're moving it upward. As you bring in your breath and you visualize this, you will feel and
know that youve got it right because you will feel a tingling sensation. As youre pulling your
hand up, the tingling will be trailing your hand by a matter of seconds or inches. You'll feel the
tingling come right up after it inside the core. Hence, I use the word Subtle. If you're looking
for something that will make you go, Wow, shazam, it doesn't work that way. Youre
integrating something that you don't normally think about. You just function externally. You
touch the world. You feel the world. You see the world, but you don't internalize anything. We
don't usually feel any of our organs except for maybe our heart pumping.
So what you're trying to do is get a sense of the energy running up in your body. So the
first trick is to take a breath, and get to the point where you can feel that tingle. When you get the
tingle, you're ready to take the next step. Put your hand here (points to navel) and just imagine
that your energy is moving deeper into your body. Youre now going to almost scoop it. It's like
yoga for your dimensional body. It's all regimented because the brain has been controlling it. Now
you're overruling the brain and stretching yourself. This will get you to flush through a few other
areas. Its like putting some water on the desert and bringing some greenery into other parts of
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your energy field. Take a breath and pull it in. Now take it from above your head with your
fingers pointing towards your forehead. Like a light dimming switch, you're going to bring it
down and exhale. Inhale and bring it up. Now pull it down and exhale. Clear your mind. Then
breathe in as youre pulling it up. Pull it down and exhale.
Can I have a show of hands from anyone who understands that little tingling sensation? It
looks like about sixty percent. This is what you have to work on tonight. Practice it a few times.
Find it. Once you find it, you can go, Eric is not out of his mind. It exists. The trick is breathing.
Breath is the first thing you take in life. It's the first (last) thing you're going to give when you go.
Breath controls a lot of your thinking. It controls the speed by which your mind is doing its
talking. If you think about your breath, you can control your thought, your mind or your reaction.
When people react, they say, Calm down. Take a deep breath. Its that inner knowing. We
know already that there's a connection. Hyperventilate in a bag. Just relax and breathe. If you pay
attention to your breathing, you can control a lot about how your mind works. Whenever I do any
kind of dimensional or consciousness work, I'm aware of it, but I really start going into the whole
breathing sensation. Does everybody follow me? I'm aware if my breathing changes. I'm going in
and out and it's almost like I'm setting a tempo to shut the brain down. Then I move into my
higher gear and then I go into that zone. When we think about that, we take a breath and we use it
to our advantage.
The second thing is what I've been doing the entire night. I've been using my hands. When
we were primitive, our vocal chords were set lower and we made a lot of cave man sounds. We
couldn't really define and create words. As evolution progressed, we got better at talking. Our
minds got better, so our intellect increased and our energy got better. Hence, our dimensional
bodies and souls were created. We used our hands a lot. To this day, we still communicate with
our hands. You understand every single minute movement of my hands, no matter what
nationality or culture you're from. You get it. There is an unwritten knowing that's inside of us,
coming out from our unconscious mind. If I say, Stop, I put my hand up. If I say, Come here,
I motion for you to come over. These are all the basic ones. All of these movements are subtle,
down to a little fling of my arm. We recognize something as small as how far I spread my fingers
apart.
If you take your hands, thinking about how the consciousness is constantly coming out of
them, what happens when you move your hands? (Eric shuts his eyes and holds his hands out like
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a stop motion and rotates them while taking a breath in. His hands are now outstretched with his
palms up. Then he exhales and rotates them back. Next, he inhales and rotates them back to open
palms. Next, he turns his palms down and pushes down.)
Now, my energy is just doing all sorts of interesting things. I could it feel it move. Its
making the hair stand up on my arms. My physical body is reacting. It's a very real thing. By
doing this, I'm exploring my dimensional body through a different form of control. Instead of
touching something and pulling in information, I'm controlling the experience source and almost
back flowing. It's like a water pipe, turning it all of a sudden so that it shoots backwards. When
you put your hands out, use breath and work with it, you feel the subtle energies. They'll get very
intense. Ive made them so intense that my jewelry breaks on my hand and my watch stops
working.
I don't really wear of lot jewelry for that reason. I usually go through a watch about every
three months. You can control a lot of this energy by paying attention to your hands. I want
everybody to think about their hands. Just bring them out into a stop motion. Try not to hit the
person in the back of the head in front of you. Just look at them. We dont really want to make
ourselves go into an In-Between state, but we want to become aware of them. I just want you to
close your eyes and then turn them with a breath. Now put them out and don't breathe as you turn
them. If you do it like I am, you'll feel a tingle inside. It's almost in a certain area and everybody
will get it in the same spot. This is by design. You just work your hands, but systematically and
firmly. Don't just pull them out loosely. You want to have the muscles firm but not too tight. Then
everything turns with precision, lowering together and raising together, with breath.
I don't hear anybody breathing. I hear a lot of sissy breathing now. Don't be afraid. We're
amongst family here. Act like fools. Let's do the Dragon Kung Fu breathing. Believe me. It makes
a big difference. If you learn something from me and say tomorrow, Why didnt I breathe louder
for Eric? I would have gotten something more out if it. Feel the power in you, almost like you're
using your primitive side. Don't be afraid to use it. Call on that and then force it with your hands
with really tight fingers. Do you see how tight I am? There you go. That's it. Now you want to
conform at every finger movement. If you breathe with it, you can't just wave them around. Every
breath must be in a set. One breath exhaling is one set until you finish breathing out. That's one
movement. Movement this way would be another breath either coming in or out. It doesn't matter
which way. They have to be worked concisely. If you work it any other way, the flow goes
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normal as if you're reaching out to touch. Does everybody understand that? If you're not feeling
energy, you're not letting yourself go. Energy is not going to be some massive thing.
Everybody take a break. Put your hands down. I don't want anybody hyperventilating and
falling over. Youre feeling really good. Raising energy, it is breathing. I don't want somebody
saying later, They're all hyperventilating. That's why they think they're moving energy." Thats
rubbish. You'll eventually do it without almost any breath. You can even hold your breath and do
it once youve got it down. But the breathing seems to synchronize or gets the brain to skip so you
can get in that backdoor and control it. What you'll find is a set of patterns. When you turn this
way and breathe in, you'll feel this energy move from about where my finger is and up through
the back of your shoulder blade. Some people might be wired differently, so don't assume that we
all have to be identical. But you'll find that every time you do that same move, it's going to be in
that same spot. This is the trick. When you start thinking about where you're feeling it, you'll start
controlling it. Because you're not thinking about it, you're just becoming conscious of it. That's
what you want to do.
You want to move this energy all over the place. You want to eventually move this energy
through your legs and through your arms. You want to extend it out and then back in and then out
and back in. You want to then sit there and expand your whole aura field. You want to take a
breath in and just see it expanding and retracting. This doesn't have to be about Qigong. This
doesn't have to be about Reiki. This doesn't have to be about Tai Chi. All of these schools got it
right. But, again, I don't want to put a clich that you have to follow some specific order. You
already know perfectly in your inner knowing what you need to do. I probably could get you guys
to dance like a fool if I really pushed you. But when you're at home alone and listening to the
song you like and youre feeling that jibe, you might be doing your thing. This is again the
governor that's controlling you. You're afraid to do normally.
So when you get back to your private space, try this. Play around with it. Stand up. Do
some energy movements. Bring them down. Work it this way. Work it that way. Don't be shy.
Work with it. It's going to probably amplify your meditations and your psychic work
exponentially. It's just a matter of how much you want to put into it. You can use it for ailment
areas. Send that energy down there. What talks to your cells? What tells them what to do? Its
biochemical. What's the main ingredient? Its electricity. Electricity is communication. So what
are you doing now? You've found a method to talk to your body. You've found a method to talk to
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the cells that are all screwed up on the job doing who knows what down there. This is how you
get into this organ and tell it what to do. You move that energy because you're so used to feeling
it. You start moving it in there. The best method of energy work is good to get from other people,
but the one that you learn to do on yourself is the most receptive. As long as you have intent, you
just move that energy. You know what it wants from you. It's going to tell the cells, Get to work
on this. Do this or that. You can also get good enough that you can actually project this energy
into other people and their cells become reactive and they feel the tingling moving through their
body. They feel it. Tingling is a sensation. Sensation comes from stimulus. If you're not
physically touching it, something's got to be happening. It's electricity. That's the bottom line.
Coach: What's the biggest thing you took away from this week?
Student: That all the answers are inside. The natural instinct is to just go around and look
everywhere for your answer but it's actually inside. You just have to meditate and focus. See it
inside.
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Eric: Any questions regarding this right at the moment?
Student: Yes.
Eric: Okay, go ahead.
Student: I feel the energy and Ive been feeling it for years just in the palms of my hands and its
been there for a long time and Ive never thought of it in the way that youre describing it and this
is cool. This is major cool.
Eric: Excellent. Its all about giving you tools and I cant say that for everybody here this is going
to be a new thing. What Im saying is to take an old thing to new levels. Most people who do
know a little bit about it never really exercise it to the next level.
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Student: The thing that I noticed is that it seems to be strongest when my fingers are not together,
when my fingers are apart.
Eric: Interesting, but ask yourself a question. What does this mean and whats this mean? Come
on everybody knows.
Students: 'Closedopen.'
Eric: 'Closed-open' which means also in another language, 'Go-stay; are you following me? Go-
stay. Work your energy out, stay in. Stay in, go out. Everybody communicates in some ways a
little bit differently. The bottom line is that this inner written way of knowing things, we just have
to pay attention to it.
There is some material that I wrote; I want to say in 1992. Ever since my youth, we talk
about chakra points and essentially working with that. What I often said was that besides these
chakra points, there are another seven. Id always say the palm of the hands and the heels of the
feet and then the rest, meaning the normal ones minus certain ones. The reason why we work
through our hands with the energy is simply because it makes sense to us. It makes sense to us
because we reach out with our hands; we pull in. The palm of the hand really is a dead zone
physically and I dont mean literally it's dead, but I mean really theres not much we do with the
palm. It simply is a support for our fingers but when you look at it, I often say its like a satellite
dish. It has this concaveness; it has this hard wiring in there and when you start looking at it that
way, the mind starts to work differently.
Do you see what Im saying? So hence if you can accept it and think of it as a satellite
dish, it receives information; it can broadcast information; it can do things. Its just a matter of
how you want to switch your thinking up to fool the Babbler and take it off course. It serves
obviously a purpose for support, but in a lot of ways its something that can do a lot more. So it's
just a new approach of looking at it.
Student: Yeah. I used to sit like this and that feeling of radiance was definitely presence.
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Eric: Try breathing. Breathe through your palms. Now a lot of people say, What the heck? How
do you breathe out of your palms? And I always say, Breathe through your chakra. Well, you
guys should get it. I keep forgetting who Im talking to in here. Breathe through your palms.
When I go into a house full of negative energy and these energy fields, anybody really watching
me sees that I have this hand thing going on. Im trying to be cool about it but Im not like, Oh,
look at me. Ive got them down and Im breathing. I breathe through here and here and I breathe
in but Im breathing fifty percent through the palms and fifty percent from here and, of course,
unconsciously from here. The breathing is working this energy and Im sampling. Im looking for
something that isnt normal.
You begin to feel the house; you begin to feel and its like eyes; its the only way that I
can explain it. Its like this other kind of sixth sense, not eyes, not touch, not smell, not anything
but it's giving me information and the information of my intent. What's my intent? Im looking for
spooky things or entities and spirits or who knows whats in here but anything obscure. This is
what I feel and I notice it with the palms. I tend to turn them around a lot and Ill walk around and
Ill move my hands in certain ways but Im constantly breathing in through them as if they were
breathing and tasting the air or tasting fluid.
Thats how you switch your thinking. So if you think about that, it's how you fool the
Babbler from not being able to interfere. It just goes with it. Its like, Wow, thats strange!
Alright, well go along for the ride. And thats what Im doing in many cases and Ill know right
away if theres this or that.
Theres a great place here in Portland that you guys might want to go to. Its the White
Eagle. These McMenamins have their own pubs and they open them up all over the place and
they make their own bars and theres a claim that all their places are haunted. Most of them arent
but there is some very interesting energy at this White Eagle and I think that you can rent rooms
there, but there are bands downstairs that play all night. Its like a real pub but if you can put up
with that its got some very interesting energy. I went right up there, picked out the energies and
zoomed right in on it. Its something you can experiment with and try but the palms are
broadcasters and receivers. Youve just got to think of them as operating in a different way.
Student: Can you use them to move the energy?
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Eric: Absolutely and Im going to continue as soon as we wrap up on that particular thing, theres
some other techniques for working it. You definitely want to watch your sugar levels. Youll find
that maybe you get a little antsy working with it because you can really affect organs and stuff in
your body. This is a good thing but youve got to recognize and say, Wow, Im feeling a little
weird, or feeling a little this or that. You might want to get some candy or something or figure
where youre at because you're really making your organs either secrete or not secrete or do
certain things. Once you get used to it you wont have that problem anymore. Okay?
Student: There are a number of people who have problems with their neck or their spine or these
conduits or in their arms or hands. Will this affect your energy output, if youre trying to use your
hands as sensors and if you have a problem?
Eric: Well, when you see paraplegics or people born with deformities and they have no arms,
what do they learn to write with? You dont need any arms or feet. The only reason why we use
our arms and feet is because its the closest thing that makes sense to us that were used to. I dont
use any; I share with you; I do this, I do that. I'll be very honest with you. I have to think back to
what I used to do. I dont think about telling you guys that. Do you see what Im saying? I dont
want to sound so arrogant but I kind of look at the house; I can do the shake down in about two
seconds; you get skilled at whatever you do and Ive done it for so long. You dont need any kind
of physical concept.
If you say, Eric, I want to feel something. I want to start to be able to experience things
that are above and beyond normal to help me with my belief in this stuff and progress me. Well
Im going to say, You fool yourself and use what you have to get around the governor. When
you get good, you dont even have to think about it anymore. Do you follow what Im saying?
You really dont need to move it. Once you get good, you can move it all over the place with just
thought, just consciousness.
So its really just baby steps. If you havent got an arm, you have to sit there and say, I
want to move the energy. But youre going to have to start off with making a little tickle here,
making the energy move here. It might take you a day or two to get it down right but if you work
with your breathing, its just intent and choosing the areas. Say I want to move the energy in my
fingertips. Start there and just move it forward and back, just like the center of your brain. There
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isnt anything to move there, but yet you can get the sensation if you work with it. We will only
limit ourselves because we reflect on the physical body and say, Well, if I cant move my arm,
maybe I wont be able to do that and youre not asking me. Youre asking what other solutions
are there. I understand but thats what Im saying: adapt, adapt, adapt. Are there any more
questions on that?
Student: Nobody wants to run over an animal. It probably has something to do with energy but
something Ive noticed in my life that has been very consistent is when Im driving and I see an
animal, even when I was a small child, I had this feeling and wed never run over an animal. One
day I ran over a bird and I was so upset and I killed this bird and then I thought about it and I was
very angry. I was very angry so I didnt have anything to send that bird. I didnt have that normal
feeling that I had when an animal is in danger. So many other times, I still always have this feeling
when theres an animal involved. And one day a deer came out of nowhere and just jumped on the
car and he nearly got hurt and it was because I didnt see the deer. So I thought thats a
coincidence, maybe not. But if I dont send out this emotion, its an energy, that theres no
protection for the animal and Ive killed another bird because I wasnt aware of it. So what do you
say about that?
Eric: Well shame on you. No one likes it when they kill an animal. There was this squirrel; I once
drove to visit some friends of mine and the damn squirrel had to run underneath my car and there
was not enough time for me to hit the brakes or anything. Its kind of like, Oh my god. I know
what I just did. Do I look back? Is there anything I can do? Probably not. It's better that I dont
look. But it moves through you but as Ive said before in much of the material, emotion is largely
the universal communicator and when you say emotions go out, theres a truth to that.
Different people develop different psychic abilities. Theres no two people that are really
identical and I dont know what your youth was like or why it works that way for you, but I can
give you an example with me, as I generally had a very wide spectrum to feel and I think that a lot
of white cells develop this sensory in childhood. We tend to be really afraid of the 'boogey man.'
We tend to be really afraid of certain things in our field and as I said before, you hear a little creak
and youre lying in bed as a kid. The room is dark. Youre like, Beeeooowww If a flea can
crack a fart, youre on it.
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So I remember my whole childhood, feeling, and it only took one entity to ruin me and
make me like this so theres a reason for it. I think we come in, some of us in very high gear. What
I mean by that is were fearful because were using that as our sensory and thats just how our
organic body is tuning into it. So I think that I developed that outer sensory from the fear of what
is outside of my perimeter that I dont have control over, Whats coming to get me? Theres
much you can do about it but you dont consider that you may scream real loudly or take cover,
but theres this sense and it builds from that and it develops the neural-synapses in your brain to
create that sensory to have it.
So when youre having guilt from the animals and just being able to pick up on it, I almost
wonder where it came from. I would say something must have happened with animals in your
youth or there was a connection or you made an affinity with certain nature frequencies and it
became familiar. You learned to be able to tell the difference. Do you follow what Im saying?
And so being in the car, you need to feel if theyre in danger or their going to come in your path,
so its how youre designed from probably youth that came naturally psychically. Does that
answer your question? I cant see your face so Im not quite sure. It looks a little puzzled.
Student: I think so. I guess its a form of arrogance saying that the energy projected is something
that is actually happening, that if I dont project that energy, then nothing happens. The animal is
doing what its going to do and if I project the energy, it interferes and the animal will turn around.
If I dont project that energy then . . .
Eric: No and that works for me also. It still falls in line with what Im saying. Its again that flow
you had. Maybe go further in, youre either sensing to pick it up or youre going to broadcast and I
see the logic of what youre saying. Youre saying that theyll pick up on it if youre
conscientiously putting that energy out.
Student: Its like a form of speaking. Its a universal form of speaking.
Eric: Right and I agree completely with you. Next?
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Student: In addition to what she was just speaking about, I drive a truck and I drive all hours of the
night and day and especially for me, morning and evening deer and other things come out.
Demons go in and animals come out.
Eric: Right. Its their time.
Student: With these energies, but also with wilderness training, Tom Brown, which also I find
maybe its part of projecting out but also using wide angle vision instead of just pin pointing
driving down the road crossing wide angle, seeing the whole of Gaia as you approach that whole
dimensional thing.
Eric: Right. I agree with that too. Thats good advice. She drives a big truck. You guys all saw that
outside. Its an eighteen wheeler. You know peripheral vision is very interesting. I always say you
see the higher octave out of the corner of your eyes. You ever see something move and you look
and theres nothing there? So its very useful in that way.
Its funny that you mentioned about the broadcasting out so animals pick up on it. I think
that I talked about it in one of the CDs about programming objects and putting intent in objects.
Its very similar; its just like a beacon that you can kind of represent out. The problem with me is
because I just couldnt be that consistent. I hop in the car and Im driving everywhere and Id be
pretty upset at myself because I would never remember to keep putting that beacon out so if I hit
an animal then Im really going to feel guilty. So, more questions on that?
Student: I experience lights often. It can be white on white in daylight, lights on daylight
background. They look like little paisleys. They speed so fast its almost like the air is filled with
it and I can see this at night but during the day it's more obvious. I guess it helps me concentrate. It
focuses me when Ive had a bad day or something.
Eric: So youre picking up on other frequencies that are just maintaining and youre saying, This
just feels like part of my natural reality or part of it.
Student: I wouldnt say it to anybody else, especially my family. They would think Im nuts.
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Eric: I think that pretty much everybody has a variety of experiences and sometimes people say to
me, Well, why dont most people all have the same experiences? Well, a lot of them have the
same experiences, but how short is the list of what can happen? Its like saying you eat one kind of
food and thats all that exists. Theres just a lot out there. Any other questions on that?
Student: I dont know if this is common for other people but, sometimes I find that meditating a
lot over a period of time I see twinkles, or color, and I dont know if this is something that
everybody has. What could that be? The first time I saw them they were very light, like whitish
and then they were more like bluish, but its when your eyes are open if youre doing things and
its like youre meditating.
Eric: Like I was saying before, what happens is that everybodys a bit different and youre
naturally more inclined to build upon what youve already started in youth. So, its to say that
maybe some people in here are poets. Maybe some people in here are acoustically very good and
maybe some people here are better at artistry or painting. If you gave it up for a while, would you
be able to pick it up faster than the person sitting next to you who never did it? Probably. So you
dont really forget that. You just left it off for a while and youre going back to it. So spiritually
you start meditating, you start doing these different things with altered states of consciousness and
working your energy; you're more prone to awaken these other senses that youve already started to
relate to. Whether they come out visually or sensory or physically or whichever, youre really
building on what youre naturally gifted at. Its just a matter of enhancing that particular area.
Often lights can be very tricky. I just had some of the staff come in and they were talking to
me about a person seeing lightening. They described it as an angel and they saw a light angel
coming after them and I dont know if thats somebody that was in here or not, and I said to them,
It's good but youve got to be very careful. Remember what I taught you about a tree stump in the
distance. The human brain will add legs and an arm and a head to the tree stump in the distance,
okay?
Its only natural for us to put a human figure or a human face to something that we see.
Remember the Fs in the book and how it takes it right out of your optic view. It literally erases it.
We have to remember that when we have spiritual experiences we have to be very careful how we
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choose to identify or interpret them. So what I have found is that there are some basic rules of
thumb and it's not to say that it's a hundred percent every time. But you need some things to pretty
much say, Okay, this is what it is, like when you see verticals from top to bottom or when you
see a light like that, it is generally of an intelligence. Its a dimensional being of some type. I dont
know why but universally this is the same way my body is: top to bottom. You could think of most
species as the contour of the face. We define it like this, so its the easiest way.
It doesnt mean its the only way but rule of thumb is that if you see this light coming in
generally, its an entity coming to communicate with you. Youre adding the arms and the legs or
your brain is trying to cope with this. When its circular and it looks like it has waves or like how
they make some sun paintings, per se, or it kind of looks like you cant define a circle but you see
the light, usually thats dimensional in my opinion. In my experiences, youve opened some kind of
vortex or something like that, but generally any kind of waviness or cloudiness.
Sometimes students will lie in bed in a dark room and theyll work on dimensions and at
first they see purple and the purple looks almost as black as the black and they think, Well, maybe
my eyes changing on me and stuff. Then I say, No. You work with that and youll start to see it
moving like clouds coming out of an endless source and the purple will move across the black.
And I say, The reason why youre not getting more is because youre afraid to let more out. Just
let it go. And then theyll open it and all of a sudden youll see like a skylight in the middle of
nighttime on your ceiling. And you can see planets or stars and it looks real and essentially for the
most part it is, but keep in mind youre filtering through the brain to the mind or the mind to the
brain still. Theres still this part where youre flying with it and youre not necessarily thinking but
the Is still are saying, This is how Im seeing this. Do you follow me? So dont be so quick to
say they're angels or they're this or that. Analyze afterward. Dont analyze first because youll start
writing the script and then youre going to short it out.
Student: I just want to say I think that I may have been the person that they were reporting to you
about. When I was sixteen, I saw a host of something and I felt and heard beautiful sounds,
magnificent sounds almost like singing coming into my room and a soft light came over me and I
felt wonderful and I dont know if you actually picked up on the fact that. . .
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Eric: Well thats what Im thinking and Im not sure that I want to put myself on the line there, but
yeah. So again, we do interpret; our brain will take over and start putting data in there to the mix so
thats why Im saying its very important to just let it flow. Keep in mind that spirits and ghosts
dont have vocal cords necessarily. So theyre not necessarily going to come in and say, Hey,
hello! Boo! Theres no propelling of oxygen to create sound, but on the same token its not to
dismiss that you heard sound.
I hear music all the time. I swear I wish I could write music down because I will hear
fantastic music; its the same thing with the pillars using the sound. As soon as I pay extra attention
like, Hey, thats pretty good. Where that is coming from? Boom, it fades away. Im sure other
people must have this and Im like, Boy, I wish I could write this! And then two months later, its
a number one song that just came out. So this, of course, gets into time and the matrix and the Gaia
mind and tapping in. Its to say that you can still probably hear that sound but its coming in on
maybe a different level. Do you see what Im saying? And youre thinking it must be something
audible that everybodys hearing. Always give it room to wiggle: three things of what it could be so
you can refine your best situation for an answer.
Student: Ive had that happen in the last six months quite a few times. Ill hear music almost like
its a choir or maybe some songs Ive heard and Ill be in the bedroom, on the computer, and Ill go
in the living room to see if Ive left the stereo on or the TV and I accept it. Its like, Wow, what?
Eric: Where is it coming from? Its beautiful, perfect music. I would say, more or less, that when
these things happen, youre tapping into what I call the collective consciousness. Music just
happens to be something that doesnt have words, so we naturally tune into it because its more of
an emotional thing, so naturally were driven to pick that out of our other stuff.
Student: But I cant make it happen. It just happens.
Eric: Exactly. When you pay attention to it consciously, it will fade away. Ive done well enough
where I can just hold it and it plays for a while but then as soon as you want to jump on it, it still
fades away but Ive gotten it down good now. So, questions on anything?
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Student: Ive actually had a conversation with someone that had passed: my sister and my father-
in-law. When I talked back with my sister and I said, Well Rita, you really cant do that because
youre not here anymore. She went away and never came back and then with my father-in-law
there were some troubling things going on and he told me that everything was going to be okay and
that he was okay and that gave me a lot of peace.
Eric: Right, Absolutely. Now I have a question for you. When you say they talked, did you hear
words or was it like this kind of emotional communication that was like words but very complex?
Student: I believe it was words. I believe I actually had a conversation.
Eric: Okay. I dont want to say this is the way. I dont want to conflict with you. What Im trying to
say politely is I believe that everything is emotionally communicated. In other words, a spirit is not
necessarily going to be able to talk, but youre hearing it. What Im saying is that their machinery is
like a TV. There are TV signals right now everywhere, radio and satellite and everything, but we
need devices to translate that information and put it out so we have texture to it, so that we can get
it. Okay? So when a spirit or an entity communicates to you, theres a very fast relay there that I
believe is putting it into voice and because youre giving it the voice also. I agree with you. I dont
have any problems with that but I just want to be clear when Im talking to people that in the end
its really emotional. That is how it broadcasts and a lot of people dont understand necessarily
what that means.
This fake plant has a specific feeling. Everybody in this room knows the feeling of this
plant. You know the feeling. You know the feeling of this bottle of water. You even know how
cold or how warm it is and its just a little bit above room temperature but you know thats a
feeling. Thats a different kind of coded information in your energy consciousness. Does
everybody understand what I mean? You know what this shoe is; you know pants and you know
the feeling. It has a specific frequency in your consciousness.
What Im saying is that you can talk, if you can get skilled enough to work with that, to any
being in the universe, and thats really the key. And when something is communicated to you, you
know what it is. Its like smelling something. Thats pumpkin pie or thats popcorn. That was a
different coded scent that had a message. Well, its the same but different. You get this
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information; you feel it and youre like, I know who this feeling is; I know this presence; I know
this person. And theyre saying something to you emotionally and youre hearing the words
because something is reversing the communication and putting it into words for you. So does that
make sense for everybody?
Students: Yes.
Eric: So, whenever youre dealing with entities or spirits or dimensional things or anything, I
would say that if an alien came down and crashed on earth, we may not understand one thing it's
saying, but if its sad were going to know; if its happy, well know. Its a universal sensory.
Student: Its been happening to me for a long time in an expanded state and often its happening
when Im out walking my dog. Its not something Im necessarily looking for, unless I have a
question about something. Ill just put the question out there and let it come in its own time and
what Ive deducted and actually she (pointing to another student) was gracious enough to share
with me that I will feel the information, but then I find that there is a translation and interpretation
of the information that actually becomes dialogue.
Eric: Yes. Absolutely.
Student: But its what Theresa said; its downloading. And that was a real 'aha;' thats exactly what
it is. Its not channeling but theres a reaching and sometimes it's just right there and it is far more
profound and wise than sharing could ever be. So thats what I know.
Eric: Absolutely and you know I can think of a million ways of trying to describe it or to nail it but
its elusive. Its elusive and its about paying as much attention. Women are better than men with
it; thats one of the down sides. Again, we use different hemispheres of the brain, and for women
when it comes to just feelings they always say 'woman's intuition', 'woman's sensory'. There is a
truth to that. Men tend to be able to construct a little bit differently in their head, or a little bit more
in the way of seeing things in a visual sense. So there are advantages and Im not saying
everybodys like that because you have a little bit of both or vice versa. But women tend to get the
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whole emotional thing when I talk about it and understand it and the guys kind of look at me and
they're like, What the heck is he talking about? I often say youve just got to go out there; youve
got to play with it, and youve got to experiment with it. Question?
Student: Is there a technique to amplify or magnify the manipulation of energy?
Eric: Well yes, everything that I teach, everything that weve covered is some angle of trying to
get you to understand those things or to bring them out. I could tell you probably a dozen of them
and Ill leave and Ill be like, I should have said this; should have said that. Bottom line is:
breathing, breathing, breathing. Okay? Acknowledge your physical body. I was going to save
this until tomorrow but Ill have to come up with something else for tomorrow. Its a lot to cover
in four hours, which is a long time. Who came up with that four hours? Im winded now, my
God; its time for another break. This is probably a good time but I dont know how deep well
go into it; we will probably do it again tomorrow, but if we do kind of go into that place, youll
know when you're there. Dont get up too quick when its time to go; just kind of get your
bearings a little bit, you know? I dont know if we have enough time to push it but itll be good
to prep you today. Then, you'll know what to do tomorrow. This is exactly how youre going to
really do it.
The body. Everybody think about your body right now; really think about your physical
body sitting in a chair and become aware of your feet touching whatever it's touching. Become
aware of your socks, your pants, and your shirt. Become aware of your hands laying down
relaxing. Its a lot like hypnosis but were not really going to go into hypnosis; its a different
point. Okay? And I want you now to think about your hands again. Take a good look at them.
Look at your finger nails; look at the hair on your hands, your fingers, and the hair. Look at the
little hairs that are sprouting out on your fingers. Doesnt it strike you as a little odd? You kind of
just take it for granted but think of primates; think of what we came from, maybe evolution or
life. Whats it there for anyway, especially on the knuckles? Maybe some people dont have it;
maybe the women dont have it. Im assuming that they do but it's thinking about that. Does
everybody get what Im trying to catch here? Its when you get kind of jerky and you know what
this contraption is all about.
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When you look at the folds in your skin, dont just hear what Im saying. Literally look at
that; look at the veins underneath the skin. We know it is moving blood but when is the last time
you really gave it a good look? Look at your arm. Look at this tentacle shooting out from this
upper part of your body. I look at it and I go a little loopy because Im like, I hate the human
body and Im stuck in it. But as we acknowledge the human body we begin to shift.
Your mind starts to move differently. Here I am physically; the more I look at it, its like
Im viewing it as the second person and Im going, Thats not me. Thats not me. But you
cant say, I know Im an energy body. I know I exist in this physical body. Its not good
enough, Blah, blah, blah. Okay? Start thinking about it. When I open my hand, I see the bone
structures and the tendons opening and closing. Now as Im talking to you, do you feel your
stomach here? It almost gets a little nauseous. Its a little bit like, Hey dont go there. Its like a
crazy ride. Well youve got to go there. Youve got to go there. Youve got to say, If Im going
to throw up, Ill throw up and the more Im talking to you, thats how it affects me.
So then you start thinking about your breathing. I dont even want to go there because I
dont want to shut it down by accident. You obviously won't do that, but you start thinking about
your breathing. And you start feeling your face and you have this clay on what is this thing Im
in. What is it? What the heck is it doing? The more you contemplate your physical body, the
more your mind moves. It moves. As you think about this torso thats moving around and youre
in here, youre stuck in here. Pull your hands out like this. Just kind of peripherally see your
hands come up into focus and then run them back down. Tentacles I tell you. What are these
damn things? So if you internalize this and you begin to look at it a little bit differently, you
know that you're attached to all of this; you begin to shift. You begin to feel slightly different and
its that different feeling that you want to start paying attention to.
So we have our feet. We have our torso. We have our fleshy face. Take a look at the
environment youre in. This justifies it, it's like everything plastic. I look at Richard. I know
theres life force, but then I begin to see this micro energy shimmering inside of the organic
structure which I dont believe I see it as real anymore. Everything starts to look like plastic to
me. I see the life underneath it and I dont accept the exterior as being life anymore. Does that
make sense for everybody? And then when I looked at this stuff that doesnt have any life in it
like the carpet and the floor and the wood and the chair, theres this claustrophobic feeling that
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kind of gets on me. And youre kind of like, Haaa, and your breathing starts to get shallower
and you pay attention to your breathing and you know somethings not right.
Ill tell you whats not right. Its because youre feeling more like energy and energy
knows no boundaries. And youre saying, Well, Im in boundaries, and so your energy is
almost panicking in a sense because youre like, This isnt normal. This isnt right. So again,
we use our skill and we say, Okay, calm down, breathe. Youre like, Okay, but Im still
feeling it. Its good. It can leave as quickly as it comes but listen; look at the fabric. Look at the
ground. Look at all the other people in here. What I see are vessels. I see a parking lot of cars.
Does everybody understand? The driver is within it and you simply need to reflect on it. When
you reflect on it, that is when you begin to understand what you really are and its not that youre
going to fully get a hundred percent out of it because you're connected. You cant just leave, but
you begin to be able to explore energy moving in and moving out.
So having everybody here, we're going to jump back to this energy movement. What I
wanted to use for one of the last things was to think of your brain right now. Right now you
thought about your feet; you thought about your legs; you thought about this big parking lot; you
thought about everything; you feel a little queasy in your stomach because were kind of messing
with stuff we're not supposed to mess with. Were not supposed to really reflect on this. Now
think about this brain in your head. Everybody kind of knows what they look like; youve seen
pictures in school and on TV. Well, what does this do? Its in there. Think about it. Its just there.
Whats it doing? Its processing; its got all this data moving around and youre somewhere in
there. The real question is, Do you feel like youre in there? No. You know youre in there;
you know thats where consciousness is supposed to reside, but its like youre in there. Its the
only way I can explain it. So acknowledging that shifts us. It makes us question certain things in
a different way. It comes from this other intelligence.
Breathe and exhale. Now take your hand and bring it to the back not quite touching your
lower cranium in the back. Those of us can use whatever hand feels good. I want you to think
about that energy that we were pulling from here up and I want you to almost see that energy
coming out of your hand into the back of your skull. Youre going to breathe in a moment and
youre going to pull this energy through your brain as if you're lighting up the areas that had no
power in it, no energy, no electricity firing up those engines in that organic brain. And youre
going to acknowledge it as a machine. Its a machine and youre about ready to start powering it
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up. So were going to do one on this side and were going to do one on that side and youre just
going to try and focus and see it being pulled up and over as if you just moved through that
whole brain, how it's split in two. Ready? Go (Breathing and beginning exercise). Now give it
about two seconds or so and just breathe.
Now theres a certain energy right now, if you pay attention to the subtleness of it. You
feel it in your arms generally. You can feel it if you just move your body a little bit. Now theyre
going to think we're nuts and it depends. Women tend to feel it a little bit better than guys but
guys can feel it to. This is the first time you may have ever really thought about that brain. Have
you ever thought that you might be able to manipulate it and turn it up a little bit? It reminds me
of those go-carts. I get my big fat butt in there and I say, Turn it up! And they say, Oh, he
knows. You have to turn up the governor otherwise everybody else shoots out past me. I need a
little bit more pep up and go in mine. I thought it was funny (student laughter).
So the point is that you have to work with the organic brain and say, I acknowledge the
organic brain. Well hell, its got its hand in making you older; its got a hand in all your mood
swings; its got a hand in half a dozen and ten to one things. When is the last time you ever
thought, Well, let me jerk some energy; let me move my consciousness. What does the brain
do when its not thinking about reaching out touching things and it is thinking about touching
itself? What does the brain do when it goes, Hey, you cant do that!? Where does it take you?
Where does it go? Then youre moving this energy and your thinking about it and sometimes Ill
move it this way or sometimes Ill move it this way and youre stimulating energy to awaken it.
Your brain is alive. Its not actually true to say that we all use nine or twelve percent of the brain.
Nobody knows for sure but we probably have a lot more than we can use that were not aware of.
Did evolution intend for us to use it and when did it plan on us using it or can we supersede
evolution and just get right to the point of stimulating it this way and speed up the whole game
play of it? Is everybody following me? So I knew one day when I was twelve years old Id have
a whole crowd doing this looking like fools. Were getting near a wrap here; Im getting pretty
winded; we have about ten minutes. Are there any questions I can answer?
Student: I really want to thank you.
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Student: Yeah, because I feel like Ive been living in this house and it has this incredible
generator down in the basement and Eric comes in to visit and he says, Oh, you have this
generator down in the basement. Yeah, its been there for years. You say, Well you know
you can use that to light up the house. (Student laughter and clapping)
Eric: Thank you. Thank you. Well, I hope this was good information for you. First of all, enjoy
Portland. There are plenty of beautiful parks in Oregon. Go reflect there. But remember what Im
saying. When you get out in the world now, youre going to hate me tomorrow because youre
going to be like, Damn you for giving this to us Eric. Pay attention to your feet walking. Listen
to your feet walking and moving. Pay attention to the air around you. Pay attention to the sounds
but then remove yourself from paying attention to the sounds. Go back to the feet. I dont know
why it is. I honestly dont. I know a lot but I dont know what it is about the feet hitting the
ground, not the feet itself but the physical touch. Maybe its something that correlates primitively
but if you pay attention to that and you move and you start paying attention to your body, you
pay attention to the weight of your body and pay attention, youre going to start to shift. And
youre going to see everything quite differently. Dont expect literally differently, but subtly.
The more that you can let yourself go, dont analyze, dont analyze, and let yourself go.
Just feel it. Itll start illuminating stronger. Youll start to see more. Youll hear more and things
will begin to change. Surrealism will begin. Okay? Its a very intriguing place to be, and some
people might say, Well, what is the purpose of it? The purpose of anything, the purpose of the
whole universe is the same thing. Experience is knowledge. You gain; you move forward. Thats
what you awaken; you look at something and you apply that knowledge to whatever youre
dealing with and you can do miracles. Thats the secret meaning in there. So thats what Im
suggesting today; Think about the energy movements but enjoy Portland. Do some of that so
when you come back tomorrow you have a better feel or maybe youll have some other questions
or certain things that might have happened for you. You can let me know. Are there any last
questions? Alright thats it. Im getting out of here five minutes early.
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(Student Impression: The support staff is incredible. The team is incredible. Eric is phenomenal.
And it literally has added an incredible branch, an arm to my life.)
(Student Impression: Well, the seminars to say the least were interesting and more moving than
anything else. I walked out just absolutely glowing. Every cell in my body was vibrating.)
(Student Impression: I really liked what Eric shared about developing the energy in the pineal
gland. He gave us a little exercise on intentionally moving that and I really was able to do it, so it
was very fun. I enjoyed it.)
Student: Were waiting for Eric making a fashionable late entrance. Thats the way to do it.
There he is.
Eric: Ill tell you four hours of talking is a long time. Its a lot longer than I thought it would be,
but I feel like I got across what I wanted to say and Im looking now for round two and to get
into that. So Im pretty happy with it. I feel like Ive covered the basics; Ive gotten a feel for the
group that Im working with there, so Ive done a lot of reflecting as to where I want to take
them. So Ill have a better idea tomorrow what were going to do.
I just want everybody to reflect for a moment the fact that weve all gathered, To be
aware of all the beautiful presences that are in this room right now and all the people in this room
are fellow companions in this journey that youre all on, no matter what class we come from or
ethnicity we come from or social structure. Thinking about that, I just want you to focus on the
fact that youre never alone and I want everybody to understand that. Youre never, never alone. The second thin
are so many people I want to reach out and talk to but I cant do everything that I want to do, no
matter how many people it is I have something to say or talk to. I just want you to know that I
see you. I acknowledge you, and Im just in awe of all of you guys. You guys are just all so
beautiful to me and Im really moved. Im really moved and Im so proud of everybody and you
guys are definitely are worthy. So just take a second here. Okay. Alright now, we can loop the
tape and then make it look like an hour okay. Alright, once again I thought that was brilliant and
humorous. (Laughter).
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Lets see how were doing for time. So there are two things I want to talk about. The
second half Im going to talk about the taboo subject that nobody seems to talk about. It was
brought up briefly yesterday. Nobody really wants to talk about the Darkside. Most times when
people gather its about light and positivity and lets meditate and reflect and this. What is it?
What is its purpose? What is our purpose? How is it all affecting everything? What are the
dynamics of it all? What is it that we need to do specifically? Nobody wants to talk about that.
Nobody wants to acknowledge the Darkside because by talking about it you kind of are
acknowledging it, but I just think its time to really tap on that and explain what it specifically is.
How does it operate? Why does it operate and do what it's doing and how do we recognize that?
How do we acknowledge that? Is it something everybody would like to finally be laid out on the
table and kind of sort it all out?
Students: Yes
Eric: Okay, but we're going to do that in the second half. Youre going to have a little
cliffhanger. What I want to talk about right now is that I spoke to a group at the dinner last night
and we started talking about water and a pool of water. And I said, Remind me tomorrow at
some point that I want to talk about it because theres something excellent in regards to that.
Ive always tried to figure out how to teach people to work with that energy, how to get them to
actually move it. How do you direct it? How do you control it? Technically its not something
we can generally sense with our five senses until you really get kind of attuned to it. But even
when you can get attuned to it, how do you learn to really control it? Where are the trial and
errors? What are the patterns it follows? How does it operate?
And I remember already very young, I lived in a big apartment complex for part of my
youth and there was the swimming pool that was part of the project and I loved the water. I
always have loved the water, loved the water, loved the water! I would be in the water and Im
assuming everybody thought I was kooky but I would move the water in a certain way. It was all
about the waves, the currents, the length and distance it reached to the edge of the pool. I would
see the wave kind of gently splash and I knew it took time to travel. Id move it this way and I
would become aware of my body, my hips and hands and then move in the water and I would do
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this and of course I created this phoenix splash. Its my patent move. So Id make this big splash
but I learned to move water.
Its very Tai Chi in a sense, but the difference is that there is something for resistance in
the water. The water is transparent, obviously, so you dont necessarily see movement but you
know its there. You can feel it. You can gauge it. So I dont know if everybody has an
opportunity to get in a pool or get into water but if you do, if the season is right or youre at a
hotel that has one or something, play around with that process. It is very revealing as to what it
can show you.
I was always amused with the surface of water, just kind of patty caking my hand on the
surface of the water. It was as if I was training myself to understand energy. As you may already
know, Im very self-taught for the most part. Everything was more of an inner awakening and all
of you guys have this. Every last one of you guys has this knowing, especially the people in this
room and especially the people that would be watching this. Okay? Theres a reason why youre
interested in this and it makes sense. Just let it flow.
So I think when I was younger I didnt doubt; I didnt question it. I was just like, Okay,
this is cool. We're playing. We're doing different things. Maybe some of you guys have done
similar things. In either case, theres a release of knowledge. Thats what Im kind of hinting at.
Its when you get in the flow and you start playing, you start observing yourself and youre
studying how this works. The reality is itll train you really how to move energy, how to move it
around and feel it and you literally know how far its going to reach because that pool water gave
you a sense.
Now Im not saying you cant make it bigger. Im not saying you cant make it smaller
but with this human brain, you need a sense of adapting into the material world realistic
boundaries. Otherwise youre just crazy. Youre not going to have a way of defining it. Thats
what happens to most people. They say, Oh, I feel something or something just happened.
Grab it. You missed it happen. Whats going on? You dont know how to grab it. So when you
move in the pool, you set parameters on your intelligence and your sense of knowing. Practice
makes perfect. There was this study where they had three groups of basketball players. Whether
or not its accurate or not the point will be clear. You have one that practiced every day and
theyd get out there. They played. Theyd bounce the ball and do the shots. You have another
group that I believe takes the month off. They dont do anything and theyre not allowed to play.
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And the third group is told to sit down and visually go over it. Visually go over it; visually go
over it, over and over and over. So they test them after the month or two to see where theyre at.
The ones that didnt play at all did horrible. The ones who practiced did wonderful but the ones
who visually went through all of the routines, over and over and over again, but not physically
reactive did equal to the ones who practiced all day long. I think thats monumental.
So the point is that they already had a sense of what that ball felt like. They had a sense
of the weight hitting the ground and what their speed burst capability would be. They were able
to bring that into their focus and thats what trained the body and the brain and mind per se to
work together. What Im saying is, What do you guys have to show you so you can visually
train? What parameters, what gauges do you have so that you can start to channel these
energies? You get good representation; you get to move the energy this way, move it that way,
sweep it through, but whats sweeping? Am I sweeping three feet or ten feet? There has to be a
sense of parameter in this physical dimension; that is a universal sense, so that we have a level of
what we can do.
In a large pool, if you can move the water strong enough, its going to go the whole
length eventually. So theres already that inner knowing. Youre not going to be limited, but you
need a general rule of thumb thats your set standard so you dont have to think about it
anymore. When you move, you know what area youre working in. So working in water is
phenomenal. Try different things. Feel the water move up against you. When you move into a
heavy energy field, it feels somewhat similar and youre going to adapt very quickly to the
environment. Youll find that a lot of times when you go to do stuff, its almost as if you know
youre reacting to that water pressure, but it just comes out naturally even though youre working
with energy. Does that make sense for everybody?
I believe Baard was talking to me about it and I believe you had said that it worked really
well for you. I dont know if I want to drag you in front of the camera, if youre shy.
Student: Thats when I was actually able to do energy movements. It felt like water. Theres no
way I could deny it. I felt the energy all around just by visualizing I was under the water and
moving energy because then you have to think it was heavy and you have to do big movements
and everything just changed.
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Eric: That brings up other things. I would say forget about a pool. Now here we go again. This is
where teaching brings stuff out of me. He said something now that I agree with and I went,
Yeah, I should mention that in case somebody missed that and the other things which I already
know an answer to. I said the basketball players played the basketball but thats because they
knew what it felt like. Is there anybody here that doesnt know what water feels like? You know
what Im saying? Is there anybody that doesnt know what it is to be in water and moving
around? We all know. Weve got that data. Start converting that data into some mental exercises
now and think about pushing energy.
When people say, How do you know to move your energy out or when to reach in to
people? Imagine everything a part of you is water. Imagine that youre made of water and then
see your water extend out or to envelop around somebody or to become a rain shower. Youre
the entire rain shower and everything of rain is touching. It has become a texture of knowledge to
you or you know you can feel everything.
These things at first sound perhaps silly in a way but silliness is what restrains you.
Foolishness is what keeps you from growing. Its the notion of you saying, I dont want to do
that. It seems silly or I dont know if I feel comfortable doing that. Do it. Go there, and think in
terms of water. Use that water. It really gives you that sense of resistance and pull. Theres a
very strong similarity. If I had said anything thats going to be a bridge between the two, thats it.
If I learned to work with energy, I would have to say it was from being in that pool all of those
summers moving it. It wasnt about splashing other people. It wasnt about just swimming, but I
used to remember swimming and letting myself float and feel my momentum glide. I wanted to
always be out of my body and I thought this is like weightlessness. This must be like what space
is. So what Im saying is, Think about that a lot. Think in those terms because its the closest
thing to separating you from the physical realm and it makes sense. When it makes sense you can
do it. That logical little babbler is based on what is acceptable in reality and whats not and
youll find a nice bridge you can leap over.
(Student impression: It has inspired me. Yes, definitely. Its what Ive been looking for. Its a
state of beyond just intellectual. It is like, Well, how did it really apply to me? How can I really
use this? It has actually put me into a state of almost practicality, where I said, This makes
sense! Its like an exercise dealing with internal chaos and applying it to the waking state where
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we are dealing with all kinds of distractions and disturbances and I find that by practicing
internally, it does help me in ordinary, everyday life, in that sense.)
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Student: My life has changed completely. It's been night and day and not only that, I've had a
tremendous amount of spiritual experiences. I'd say for anybody who is interested in it, to just be
open-minded; invest the time in yourself; get some of the material. Read it and put it to practice
and you will be surprised and convinced that everything he says is true.
Student 2: I got hooked on Eric's teachings rather completely by accident, which of course wasn't
by accident and I have been doing it now for three or four months. I've really been doing it all of
my life. Its just that now I consciously know what I'm doing.
Eric: What I want to talk about is again a taboo subject, and that would be the Darkside. There
are two people that come to me to learn what I have to offer. They either come to me to learn
about love or power. It's usually one or the other when you really boil it down. Now you might
be thinking, "Well, they're coming to you for power; that's a bad thing." But it's not at all,
necessarily. I hate to use Star Wars all the time but it's what we understand and relate to
culturally; sometimes power is like the Jedi; they seem both good but powerful. So I see it as
that. I never see it as a bad thing. They're coming to me to learn something because they want to
do something about what's really wrong out there. They just have that inner knowing, that
instinct. I believe that's why they come to me to learn that.
And the ones that come to me for love, they don't come to me just to be loved. They don't
come because they just want to be loved by God. They come to me because they want to put this
love into others as if to heal them, and to move them, and show them, "Hey, let me show you this
great place." It's not about selfishness. So when people hear, "They come to me for love, or they
come to me for power," there's this immediate contrast of what people assume these people are
after.
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When they ask, "Which one do you prefer to work with?" I say that, "I prefer to work
with both." We're going to have our warriors, but warriors get banged up. Who's going to take
care of our warriors and fix them up so they can get back out there and do it? It's a job in itself.
Both are critically important. I know that there are some people who are spiritual and
they don't necessarily have that same sense of, "Let's take on the Darkside. How do we deal with
this? Do we hit it upside the head and send it on its way or how does it all work?" And other
people are like, "Well, we just want to focus on the love. We just want to focus on that good
energy." I say we're on the same team, but one has to interpret these higher dimensions and bring
them into physical terminology so we can relate, so we can go, "Oh, it's like this or it's like that."
Let me be clear about something. There's nothing that I can say that's going to be
specifically and exactly what it's like unless we all jump out of our body and get into energy
form. Then you can go, "Oh, now we get it." So what I'm trying to do is give you the best
interpretation of what is out there. And rest assured I will fail to do the best job. I could sit here
for days and say, "I should have said it this way; I should have said it that way," but I'll do the
best I can. So I want everybody to understand there's room for interpretation still.
Now, if we look at history, from the very beginning of primitive man, we had shamans.
Primitive man was clubbing everybody over the head and dragging the woman back to the cave
and killing the animal and ripping it with the teeth or whatever. The ones that got it first, those
were the shamans. Those were the spiritualists and they thought, "Wow, there's something here."
Immediately, the Universe spoke to that intelligence as soon as they began to grasp it. Man
began to try to understand, interpret, and take that information and put it into a structure that
people could understand. Now, that's a positive, and unfortunately a negative in a sense because
the negative is as limited as the person who tries to explain what that power is. Maybe they
described it as a lion because the lion was the most ferocious thing they'd ever encountered, but
it was also a good thing at the same time.
So communication and interpretation are extremely important and I want you to try to be
conscious of that. If you hear me pausing, it's because I'm thinking, "What's going to capture that
right essence?" So when I use words sometimes, it's not just the word. It's the impact of what it
invokes in you. If I say, a ferocious lion, I'm not talking about the teeth, the mouth, the body
but I'm talking about the same thing when I say that we can experience this plant. You know that
feeling. You know that vibration. You know what it is; you can do it without touching it.
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Everything has a sensation connected with it; you know what this bottle of water feels like. So
when I'm using certain words or structures, I'm trying to invoke at the same time as choosing the
best word, that emotional vibration that comes with that. So if we look at history, we can see the
that God, the Universe, is already trying to communicate to us. In my opinion, all of the
religions, all of the belief systems, all of the paths are 50% the Universe trying to talk to us and
50% trying to put a definition, an example, an expression of what that is. And that's where we get
into problems.
The Universe has always been trying to communicate with us from the very, very
beginning. And from the beginning, there has always been the making of a white cell. There
must be red cells to work for the Earth. There must be something for this living organism to have
as a contributing factor. But there also must be something that is in between these two places that
can say, "Hey, up here says they want this; you guys say that you want that." There's this in
between place. When I look at students, and I look at history and religious people I think, "Well,
maybe I sound a little left-field." And I think, "No, they have seven-headed dragons coming out
of the water to them. How could I be that much off?"
They have terminology, different things, but it's always been a battle between good and
evil. You look at any religion, across the board. They're all trying to say theres a Negative Force
and theres a Positive Force. And whether we are oceans apart culturally not affecting one
another, we still came up with the same concepts because the Universe is saying, "Look, this is
what's going on. You need a way to bring this into your physical reality because it's something
you guys have to prepare for. You have to be aware of it. If you're aware of it, you'll be able to
defend yourself, or take notice, or be alerted." I look at of all the cultures from the very
beginning and I see this interpretation coming through. I see this communication of, "There's a
Good and there's a Bad." There's something that is there.
So the real question is, What does it come down to? The universe is matter intertwined
and fabricated with the Universe, the Force. At the same time it's intermixed; it's like a big salad
dressing shaken up. You have the Darkside that kicked into this blend also. It's like a static
energy of both polarities, both energies ever present. In the physical realm, you have the Norse
gods; you have the Valhalla; you have the bridge. In others, you have Heaven; you have
everybody saying the same thing.
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This is the middle ground. We are in this middle ground. It's the physical ground and you
have both forces trying to dominate, or control, or to awaken, or to reach, and you always have
the warriors. You always have the healers. You always have these people that somehow are able
to feel and the other people, the red cells are like, "Eh, it's all rubbish, whatever. Just build this
and build that and let's look at it this way or that way." But the rest of us are plugged into
something else and we're sitting here, and they're thinking we're crazy, and we're thinking they're
crazy but you have to accept them. For that is part of the Earth, that is part of the natural process.
If they don't exist, then a lot of this doesn't exist. It is a contribution from them.
Now, life is being preserved. And that which is against life is anti-life. Does that make
sense to everybody; can everybody see that point? Now having said that, how does one
intertwine with life to destroy life? By trying to control too much what you think is best. Does
everybody follow me? It's to say you have a flower growing; it is the Universal plan for that to
take its path. Now we can play with the DNA and we can make it into other things, and I'm fine
with that; that's all great. But when one starts to structuralize so much with what we think is best,
we run into problems because there's no new area to grow. You've created a beginning and an
end. Right now, there's no end for the Universe -- right now. It'll probably come to an end but
who cares as long as we exist. The Universe is this giant flower that's just budding. And God is
looking at it going, "I can't wait to see what it's going to be," and they think God knows. I
disagree.
God has as much anticipation of what seems like absolute to us the same way you go to a
rose bush and you know it's going to be a rose. But do you know every little facet of that rose?
Do you know every little curve and texture it's going to reveal to you? What amuses God? What
amuses the Universe is marveling at something birthing that's coming to life: all the aspects of it.
Because God physically came into this dimension and created life, there is an anti-reaction. For
every action, there is an opposite reaction as we understand physics. This is your Darkside; this
is what's culling and it's saying, "Stop, halt! We don't want this to expand, we don't want this to
happen. It's going to be the opposite. Suppress it!" As the Universe grows in intelligence
collectively, so does the Darkside; it grows similarly. As with evolution, when you put a plant in
one direction, the simplest thing you realize is the plant always grows towards the light. You
rotate it and move it across the room. It's going to start moving towards the light. Progressively,
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it's moving on. So is there a force that's adapting to us, to counter the productivity of life? Is
everybody following me?
There's a counter-force for every positive move we make; there's a countering of the
negative. Now whether or not we see it is really the question, and the reason why many people
don't see it is that we are micro; we generally relate to our micro reality and the world around us.
But if you look at history and different societies, you will see the rise and fall of people who
were trying to control and organize with so much organization that it's almost unreal. It's not
purely Earthly. And then you have others that develop cultures where they free-flow and
integrate a little bit of nature, and they integrate science and theres a certain progression.
There has always been a Dark Energy out there. What this Darker Force in our world, our
planet Earth, is doing is much like evolution. It is adapting to a higher form to integrate. Is
everybody following me? It has adapted. It's no longer working with individuals to have this
dominating power and control of people, "I'm going to do what I want them to do and I'm going
to have this, and I'm going to have that." It is only about what they want instead of what you
want and how you're going to make them do what you want. It's the difference between talking,
convincing, and negotiating versus just forcing that to happen. When we consider this, and I look
at all of the things I see that the Darkside has created, it's just time for it to make its different
countermoves.
When I look at Buddhism and Hinduism, I see these as regions of the brain, sprouting and
acting as a different gearing for the human mechanism. In a sense, it is micro, but all
consciousness starts from a source within a micro level and grows larger. Buddhism's good. It's
good for the world. They're sitting there and (low chanting sounds) doing their energy and
they're putting it out there. And I look at the Hindus and I think, "Okay, it took me a little while
from an American perspective, but I have it figured it out now; it's very complex. But in the end,
they get it. Alisone; they get it. They don't want to have reincarnation; they want it to come to an
end. So there are a few kinks; I could argue on a few things. It's still good. They're still trying to
put life out there. It's still positive." These are interpretations. And you even have Christians and
Muslims; it's still all good. They're seeing life progress. There are maybe a few screwballs out
there that mess it up for everybody else, but for the most part they want the same thing we want.
But as I watch, I see something spurt up. And if it was a garden, look at the garden. I go,
"Oh, look at this bush and look at that bush," and something to my trained eye catches my
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senses, "What kind of tree is that? What kind of bush is that sprouting up there?" They call
themselves a religion. They're not a religion. I think everybody here eventually will know what
I'm talking about. When you think about them, feel it here; feel your Navigator. Trust your
Navigator. It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck; sure, you want to say it's a duck but I'm
telling you, it's not a duck.
This religion springs forth and is created amongst other religions, but it doesn't like
religion. It doesn't necessarily like spirituality either but they say, "We're going to call it
spirituality." And they start organizing, methodic organization, methodic. And they realize the
one thing in this dimension that can do something very rapidly: "dinero." So they focus on that.
Now, we say, "Use consciousness and let it expand. Feel God and feel the Universe." They say,
"Well, the mind and the brain is not what you want. You want this third thing." And I thought,
"How interesting that they created one." They say, "This is the soul. This is what you're really
after." And I said, very interesting because I say the mind is the soul and I thought it was very
interesting that they separated it. They say, "You have to block the mind out. You have to
remove yourself from that. It's no good; it's just a bunch of pictures. It's just random thought, this
and that." And you're thinking, "Okay," and you're nodding your head, "and it's this you need to
concentrate on." But what I'm telling you is this: this is not your soul. This is not who or what
you're being told it is. This is another source coming from another place that's going to direct
you.
They go through great training, as I mentioned before, to remove the light. We have
different religions in here, different beliefs, but for the most part I think most people are not
really of a specific religion, and we like it that way. But we think, "Okay, if you want to believe
that, then that's fine. We know it's okay; it's where you're at. That's fine." We're not saying we're
better. We're not saying, "Pray for us. We'll pray for you." You feel when you hear the wrong
thing. If you don't listen to that feeling, you'd better start paying attention. If you feel it, you
know it isnt right. They're saying, "Remove the light." Now, all of us know instinctively, you
don't have to be Christian or Buddhist. We all have that inner-knowing that the light is our
connection to what? That's right: our lifeforce, our connection to God. We may call it light; it
doesn't mean we see it like light, like I've been seeing all week, but we know it represents the
meaning of what we all feel absolutely firmly connected to.
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And there's one interesting thing. Every single person in this room without a single
question from me, would lay their life down for It. That's how much servitude we have to It. Let
me recoup myself here. And they're saying, "Remove the light. Take this light; see it as a light,
and remove it. Remove it; remove it; remove it; bring it down and this is the problem. This is
why you don't know what you want in life. This is why you have problems in life. All of these
problems are mine; don't take them away. This is what connects me to life, and as bad or good as
they are, they are what shaped and molded me and made me compassionate, made me
understanding, made me from selfish to giving. I embrace the errors I made. I embrace what I've
learned. In a sense they're saying, "No, you don't want all that. You don't have to deal with it, just
take it all away, and remove the light. Remove the light. Remove the light." Well when the light
is gone, what is left?
Students: Darkness.
Eric: And you're told, "Well, Darkness is good. Darkness is good. It's relieving you. Don't you
feel relieved?" And you go, "Oh, oh, okay, well..." They say, "We don't use hypnosis," but, (in a
rhythmic monotone) "listen to what we're saying. We believe in the soul but we call it something
else; it's over here."
Many of us feel the connection. And what's interesting is they are seeking special
individuals. Remember, 85% of people in this world are red cells; the other 15% are white cells.
There's a small fraction for something very unique but we still count in the hundreds of
thousands if you really think about it, which may seem like a lot, but not when you scatter it.
You can take a handful of dirt, and it looks like you have something; you throw it in the air
amongst the rest of the dirt, and it doesn't seem like you have so much. We're precious. Never be
ashamed of being precious because if you don't recognize how precious you are; you'll never
fulfill what it is you need to do or be; all of it. Do you understand? Don't be afraid to
acknowledge that because by acknowledging it, you've done one simple thing. You're taking a
step forward instead of shying away saying, "I can't think of myself that way. I can't. How am I
special?" We're all special, but you have this particular task and you've got to be able to
acknowledge that.
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They're scooping all of these people up. What doesn't work for this particular religion or
belief system, they shoo away. They say, "You don't need psychotherapy; you don't need
psychiatrists. You don't need it." Psychotherapy is not any different than what I'm doing. I'm not
talking about medicine; there's good medicine, and there's bad medicine, but it all serves a
purpose one way or another. Some of it's probably bad, I agree, but when they tell you that you
don't need a therapist or you don't need to do this, one needs to reflect. If I look at a flower, the
first thing I want to say to you is, "Do you see the beauty in that? I want to share it." There are
things inside of you that you need to share and there's not always somebody there ready to share;
you sometimes need to find them in other ways.
They are searching, building and converting white cells. It's a sifting process. Does
everybody understand? They're reaching out and looking for the ones who don't find the right
knowledge. You have all been looking. Every one of you has been looking; some of you
probably for fifty, or sixty years. Who knows? Looking, knowing, knowing, feeling. When you
look you're like, "No, that isn't it. No, that isn't it either." When this thing looks like a duck and
quacks like a duck and they have all the right answers because they give pieces to us. We're all
intellectuals in this room. We're spiritual but we're a unique grain of spiritual. You know what
I'm talking about. You know the other spiritual people you see there. But we're intellectual; we're
like little scientists. We get it. And this flower looks a lot like the flowers we're used to liking. It
has the right kind of answers. So when you start finding the pearls that are in this population that
the Universe puts here, the Universe doesn't say, "Oh, you have to serve me." It never says that.
It says, "Well, you have to make your own choices, and I'm going to let you make your own
choices." Its free will; we can call it what it is.
They're searching for people who have the same psychic raw potential that you guys
hold, the same spiritual potential that you guys hold, and they're converting them and getting
them to surrender the light. What steps in is something else that can operate from them. Does
everybody understand now? They're training them in psychic abilities. They're training them in
certain things. Believe me, if you really go undercover and you looked at the stuff that they do,
and I suspect there's a few people in here who know what I'm talking about that have schooled
themselves to some level, there are organizations within organizations in this group that have a
specific agenda. That agenda is to find these particular people and win these people over; they
want to train these particular people to be used in a specific way at a specific time to have an
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affect on the one thing that is most precious: the consciousness of the planet. Which direction
will mankind take? We take lots of them. It's like the mind; there's a lot of "I"s. I'm not saying
the planet has one consciousness. What I'm saying is various motivations from one culture to
another becomes one harmony. You throw one good or bad pitch in there and it spreads. It
spreads like a virus. And all of a sudden everybody starts accepting this concept.
Everybody's familiar with the Mayan calendar, I'm sure, and the ending of the world is
supposed to be in 2011. Some people argue it has already come; it's coming, 2012. Well, it's not
going to be a specific day. It's not like, "Oh, at 12:00 p.m." Some people try to say that's what it
is. It's a progression. It has already started. Ask yourself. You feel it; you know it. There's been
many of these progressions in the Earth. Many people have talked about feeling that enrichment.
Never did it really become a repressed feeling until probably the last few hundred years. People
have been saying religiously, or spiritually, "Aaah, the end is coming." You start to see it as the
collective consciousness; it builds from the neuruo system getting more complex, much as it is
today. Never in history has there been such conscious communication of ideas, thoughts, and
everything with all the technology we have. Even our atmosphere is filled with information
beaming everywhere, stretching its arms out, and it's just building. There is going to come a
point where there's a struggle over this consciousness. And religions will say, "Ah, it's the trial
days; they're coming and such and such is going to walk the Earth and they're going to set it all
straight." Interpretations again; the best that man can do. They're feeling it but it's all cockeyed,
in my opinion. They're not quite ironing it out. I'm not saying that our way is necessarily the best
way. What I'm saying is, "Define it for yourself. I'll share what I have with you; you sort it out
on your own. Here's what I think."
I've never shared this before; I've never said this; I've never necessarily excluded, at least
publicly, a lot of this information because the backlash can be quite severe. Rest assured, there's
at least one spy in here and I hate putting it that way, "Oh, weve got a spy amongst us." It's the
way it is. I accept it. When this time shift comes, the Mayans say it's, "The end of the world."
What it is is a shift in consciousness. The planet's going to hit this pivotal moment where we're
all going to think, "Hmmm." Do you know what I'm saying? All of a sudden, there's going to be
this understanding of the Gaia mind. We're going to sit there and say, "Oh, we knew that all
along you fools. What took you so long?" But science will start to acknowledge it as it's already
doing. They're starting to tap this and they're starting to know this. I talked a little bit about it last
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night; this is what made me decide. I can't say the one and not tell the other. This is one family; I
have to share and lay it out on the table.
The shift is a death of the old way of being. This is how I interpret what they're trying to
say. To the Mayans, it would be death. Their culture's gone; their people are gone; they're
integrated into other beliefs, other systems, and other cultures. If you were to use your emotional
feeling and ask yourself, Where do you find the feeling if it's gone? What is that? It's a kind of
death. They weren't really looking at it as new growth. They hadn't sociologically made that step
to find a way to interpret it that way, but they were pulling people's hearts out for sacrifices. The
point is, there's truth here, truth there, and it's blended with other stuff.
When this period comes, this transition, it's kind of like day and night. There's a period
where the first beams of light come. And this can be months; weeks of slowly getting brighter.
It's like getting taller if you're young. You don't see it but it's happening. It's already happening
but it's still not at the point where it's heavy yet, or where people have acknowledged it. Do you
see what I'm saying? But it's around and we feel it. Other religions are going to feel it, if you
think global consciousness; let's say the calendar is all screwy and we're way off, it doesn't
matter. Everybody now has the buzzword for 2011. Do you get what I'm saying? It's become a
life of its own. Even if nobody talks about it or knows what it is, it's something we kind of know
in the back of our head.
So, as the shift comes in, there is going to be a moment when things can go one way or
the other. There are schools of knowledge, and believe me when I tell you the deepest halls of
Buddhism and the deepest halls of the Hindu Masters know what I'm telling you. They know. It's
almost like you can't say it because we're afraid the bad guys are going to get in on the party and
then we have really got a problem but I figure they already know. I'm sure of it. So, remember
one thing. No evil thinks that it's not doing good; they're not doing it because, "I'm going to be
diabolical today." They think what they're doing is good. When this time comes, there is a point
like if we all sit in this room, and everyone takes a breath, and everybody relaxes, and we're all
like, "Hmm." But there is a moment, if you pay attention, when you go from here to relaxed;
we're all relaxed, and in that one second its almost as if everything gets quiet for a bit. It goes ...
(silent for a few seconds) and it's there. It's that moment where it's almost weightless; it just
happened for a moment and then it dips and goes back up. This is going to happen to the planet.
This is going to happen at some point to the planet, and when that moment happens, it's not
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going to be an hour or a minute. It'll probably be like a process that happens over a period of a
month or so. It's as if the planet is waiting for a new inspiration to come, the new direction it's
going to choose. It's almost as if society's going to stop as a whole and look at what we have
become. Where are we going? What is it that we want?
The human race, the central nervous system of the planet, is going to, at that moment,
express something. That expression is going to ripple and be magnified. That's what's going to
permeate in our seeded consciousness. The same way animals know things, it's going to
permeate within us, or better yet, in red cells. The Darkside has been selecting and training
certain individuals for what? Power, glory, whatever? They have it all; they have everything they
need; why press it? Why search harder?
Super cells, or white cells that have the potential to reach a higher level, the ones that are
holding something inside of them that they know they're holding. Everybody here knows they're
holding something powerful in them. They know. We say, "Well, it's whatever. It's God."
Bullshit. We know. Okay? Something huge is in here, very beautiful; very powerful and we
almost don't say it. We say, "Well, it's God." It's God. Okay? And these little itty bitty cells have
in them a little micro-dam door. It's like a Hoover dam shrunk down into this little tiny spot; it's
like a kid sticking his thumb in a huge dam. And on the other side, in this other dimension, in
this other frequency that's here but it can move into this dimension, God is saying, "Just a little
longer, just a little longer, hang in there." We're like, "We want to go. Let's go. Let's let it
happen."
They're looking for the same thing but they've reversed the light in certain individuals.
What happens when you remove the light? It fills the person up with darkness. Now what
happens if they have that same bridging ability? What if they have the same ability that super
cell white cells have developed or found? They become. They have gone from a red cell to a
spiritual being to moving in a body, and then all of a sudden they're awakening! They're
awakening! They're awakening! What is awakening? Awakening is knowledge and knowledge is
frequency. It's energy, and that energy, all of a sudden, in one moment becomes a different
dimension. That dimension doesn't know distance as we've talked about. It's just there; it can
come out; it can flood out. This moment of breath from this planet in the future will come and
has come in the past; this is not the first time. We all know that. We all have that inner-knowing.
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This has happened on several occasions before. And civilization has either been lost, or it has
gained and moved forward and progressed with greater cultures coming from there.
When that moment happens, my friends, my students, my companions will be all over the
world, and they will sit down and relax, and they will think of everything they've learned. And
they will begin to open this doorway, this dimensional door within them. That vibration, that
energy, is going to permeate within that breath as a contribution to the whole; as a contribution to
the collective, to the whole, to the Universe. This in part is the purpose that you're looking for.
This is, "What is it? What is my purpose? Who am I? I'm a baker. I'm a cook. I'm this or that.
Why do I feel so driven like a madman? What is the answer to this all? Is it religion? Is it this? Is
it that? Is my purpose to heal? Is it to fight? What is it?" It's all of those things because they're
going to be doing the same thing. They're going to try to dominate a frequency of consciousness
as they are mimicking their belief system on a smaller level in how they operate.
If you look at it, you'll see the method of this, and rest assured the Darkside is very
methodically detailed. Everything is about perfect structure, perfect order; think about that.
Think about what I said about making a flower square. Think about how they bring people in and
they remove this and remove that. "We're going to show you a pattern, this is going to work this
out. These are all issues, we're going to work them out and structuralize it." I hate to say, but it's
like the Borg in Star Trek. It's like the Dark Empire from Star Wars. These are all interpretations
coming out from the Gaia mind speaking to the generations through movies, through books,
through other forms of communication. We look at it and other people go, "Oh, that's cool."
We're sitting there going "Uhh, um ehh." We feel. We know. We may not say it's going to be like
that, or it's not going to be; these are all representations of something that man has been feeling
since the beginning of our birth into this world.
When I started off, I said love and power. Not all of us are necessarily ready to fight but
believe me, they're ready to let go and let it do its thing. God's saying, "When the time is right,
we'll settle this." I like that term, "We'll settle this." And there will be skirmishes, let's say,
between their energy and our energy. We feel it sometimes in our daily lives and we go, "Well,
maybe it's just my life." Well, I say this to students all the time; I say, "Look, you can say it's
coincidence only so much, but when the shit keeps coming, is it you?" Come on; it's like, "There
is something exceedingly discouraging me in life." We all have bad days. We all have stuff
happen. The car breaks down. The house catches fire. The cat goes missing. All in one week?
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"Something is afraid of something happening this week during my meditation. Maybe I'm going
to hit the big breakthrough or maybe I'm going to be sent out to do something a little early by the
Universe and it's interrupted."
It's simple for us to think in those terms and it sounds simple, but believe me, the Force
and the Darkside are so complex, no supercomputer could barely begin to grasp it. The healers
will heal those of us spiritually that are working in these skirmishes, per se. We'll find people
damaged by these energies and beings, and we'll fix them. Well make them right. It's what we
do. I have never seen a plant you couldn't really squish that didn't fix itself, as long as there was a
little bit of life left. My answer to the Darkside is, "Yeah, yeah, blow up the planet; nuke it; blah,
blah, blah. We'll see you in a few hundred thousand years. You'll see us sprouting out of the
ground. Youre not rid of us. We're diligent. But we're up for a good fight, too. We're not just
going to roll over. We get it; we're not fools." So our healers will heal us. Our warriors will do
what they need to do to put out this kind of energy. I want to be very clear; I don't want to be
some organization out there that's off in left field and they're doing all sorts of crazy stuff and
drinking kool-aid, God forbid. If I offer you some kool-aid, you better think twice about it.
Maybe I went too far here. Keep me in checkmate.
There has to come a point when youve got to define what is this purpose and you need to
start stepping forward. Part of fear is the fear of being accused of something. "You guys are
crazy. You're out in left field. Find this religion or that." This is all subduing. Everybody knows.
Everbody feels it. It's like being subdued. But you don't want to bump the grind because they are
the many; we are the few. They are the many; we are the few, but we're not just by ourselves.
Never forget that. So this, in part, is the bigger picture of what necessarily is going on. This is the
same battle that's been raging on this planet for ever and ever and somebody said it sounds like
Star Wars or it sounds like this and that. I said there's a reason for all that.
If you look at the Empire in Star Wars, you have to say to yourself, "What made the
Empire bad?" If they come to you, and you have a family and kids and they say, "Look at this
little planet you're on. You don't even have a little scooter to fly on. We're going to give you a
spaceship, a fighter plane. We're going to let you fly in the Universe and we're going to pay you
a salary. We're going to protect your family and we're going to take good care of you." Well,
who's not going to be like, "You know..." You're not thinking about the bigger scope of things.
You don't know the dynamic of this mechanism you're working for. You're just this little niche
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you've become. And the Empire is growing and getting bigger and bigger. And we see the
Rebellion and they're fighting the Dark. We see Darth Vader; we get the other bad Emperor. We
get told they're bad. They have red eyes; they must be bad. They have red swords; they must be
bad. So they're bad. Why are they bad? "I don't know, let's kick their ass."
So the question is, What made them bad? What made them wrong? It goes right back
to what I've said. The Empire wants a strict sense of conformity, a strict sense of structural
growth, a strict sense of life. They want to marginalize and control it, "Make it that; make life
better." How do you make life better than God? We get it. And they're saying, "It's going to work
with God; trust us. It's good for you." Now the Rebellion, we use space ships; we use
technology. We love it, but in a sense of embracing and working with it, not turning it for
controlling it. It's a fine line to see and that's what confuses most people in the process when they
follow these paths. The Empire wanted to control the Universe. They created a methodicalness
that controlled the process of things. And this is what was being resented. Lucas got this idea, of
course, from the Nazis. The Nazis were the same thing, "If you don't fit in, you go. If you're of
color or of a sexual difference or if you're of a different religion, you go!" It started to become
Aryan, Aryan, Aryan. Not that they're not brilliant. I have German in me; I'm proud of my
heritage and I'm ashamed of a few parts, but there's a lot of things I'm ashamed about being an
American, too. I can do so much with it. It's the selectiveness. You always have a few that stand
up and fight. All of us are doomed the day we all decide to just say nothing. We're all doomed
the day that we decide not to be who it is we're meant to be, to do what we're meant to do.
So this is the same thing in history. Most things that structuralize eventually fall. Look at
Rome; look at different civilizations. That ones that really proliferated would change and adapt
and renew. But what happens when one actually is able to dominate all? When it dies, they all
die with it. Does everybody get what I'm saying here? If the Nazis were able to purely dominate,
let's look at this genetically. Let's talk about inbreeding. Let's talk about what we understand.
What happens when everybody's wiped out and it's all organized? It looks great. Everybody says,
"Yay, we're on the in team." What happens a hundred years later? What happens to the human
race genetically by design? What's going to happen? What most people don't understand about
this "goodness" is that once it's absolutely under control, it has an end. It has an end, and they're
not seeing it. It has an end, and it's not a nice one. But the Darkside, in the end, got exactly what
it wanted.
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The Universe must progress. The Universe must continue to expand. It must continue to
be able to open itself and reveal it's mysteries within mysteries. I often said if I could conceive
and understand the whole Universe, then I don't even want to exist as a soul. I want true death. I
just want to cease to exist. I marvel at the creation and mystery of the Universe. When I have
found everything that I can find, well then check me out; I'm ready to go. Give me something to
intrigue my mind. Stimulate my mind. Give me a challenge. If you cap the challenge, I cease the
desire to exist. The Darkside wants to cap that. Are you following me?
So, back to our religious organizations. Look at them closely. Look at them by design.
Look at their system, how they work. Look at their uniforms. They say, "We're going to get you
to this level of clear and you're going to talk about this or that and when we finally expunge it
from you, it won't be there." They want to remove everything that makes us human and to make
them run around and function in this state. This is similar to what we call, "Non-thought". They
don't say, "Non-thought." They say, "Clear". But there's a fine line there.
Who's operating you then? Who have you surrendered all of your genetic design to? Your
spiritual essence has become submissive now. Not just physically, but the actual consciousness is
what they're after. The consciousness of you being one of these people who can tune into this
higher thing. What happens when you start putting out the little candle lights in the dark room
when you can get as many of them as you can, and you convert them to something else? So when
you look at them closely, it's a very frightening thing, in my opinion. And they'll say, "Well, you
don't understand us. You need to study it more. The people who talk about us don't know
anything about it. Blah, blah, blah. Fine, let's settle this. Feel here. You don't have to be a genius.
Feel here. Is it good? Feel it, and you know. You know. They're everywhere now. They're
fighting to get into places. They're fighting to get into Germany, I don't think they're letting them
in. They're saying it's a cult. So they're fighting it. Good for the Germans, I say. At least they
caught on, "We got our own machinery. That's how we operate." They say, "Ours is better." The
Germans say, "No it's not. Trust us."
But you will see this and right now they're in stealth mode; they decided to dip a little bit
under the radar. Right now, it's kind of quiet and we're not picking up on it so much either right
now. They'll surface in time and when they do it's going to be twice as strong as before. I would
be very, very disappointed to have somebody do something physical or something to that effect.
It's not necessary and then you only do bad in the course of action, to what we represent and how
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we decided to more or less handle what we're going to do or what we do do. So I better not hear
anything like that. I don't endorse it. Excommunication, whatever it takes: good behavior; good
manners, good representation. I don't believe in going out, trying to convert people or convincing
them our way is better and it's the best way. That's their path; that's their path. We do not
obstruct. It's not our way. If they ask, we tell. If they want to know, we share. That's our way. So
as long as we're all on the same page with that.
And the bottom line is you have to keep in mind I'm focusing on one particular
organization, there's several out there. This is one that I know most people will understand. You
have to also take into consideration that there's a lot of information you don't know about them.
We speak about them vaguely. In some ways we have to. But one of their principles is that once
you speak badly or negatively towards this organization, one of the higher statements which they
now are saying is, "Well, we reneged that in writing. It's not our way now." But if you read it
very carefully, it's very interestingly written. But it's called fair game. In Rome, when you're an
enemy of the State, that means every citizen's job is to take out that person if possible, at any
given opportunity. You have to keep in mind that their policy was fair game.
You can just take that wherever you want, but if you look at the history of this
organization and what it was built on, boy I'll tell you there's a lot of documented information
there. I would expect that it's going to be a dissection of me, in retaliation, or this or that. I'm not
perfect. I make my mistakes. I am who I am and I'm glad to be who I am. It was the mistakes that
I made and the good things that I've done that really made me who I am and that's what I have to
say on that. The teachings stand on their own. Undeniable, take it for what it is. Me as a person?
I try to be as good of a person as I can be but the knowledge stands on its own, that's what I have
to say about the matter.
Not that there's anything horrendous out there, but we'll hear it with skepticism. That's
what I wanted to say with that. Does anybody have any particular questions as long as they use
vagueness?
Student: I have a question on energy. What I gathered from studying your materials earlier, it
seemed you talked about Darkside energy being of a lower frequency, but the way you're talking
about it today seems like you're referring to it as anti-life. Could it just be like a frequency
inversion?
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Eric: I refer to it in many ways because there's not one specific way to nail it quite down. It's
very broad. How do you describe a person? How do you nail down who and what they're all
about? You really can't. So sometimes I reach for one word because in my mind I'm talking
about them as a person maybe at work. Then I'm talking about their home life, and how I know
they paint or play music.
It's hard to define something that is so complex, other than saying it's complex. So
therefore, when I talk about it, I expect that all of you have that inner knowing. You kind of
know what I'm talking about but it's good to present it out and this is where we get into human
terminology and defining it. We have to be careful there. But internally we never know, "Yeah, I
know exactly what he's talking about." Or, "I know where he's going." You just want to be clear,
I don't have a problem with that and I hope that helps answer it. It's just something that can be
described in several different ways. Like many other things I'll describe, I'll come at it from
different directions and it's not that I want to sound contradictory, but sometimes you have to
almost sound contradictory because you're trying to simplify something that you can make
people understand easily. When you do that, as I said in the very beginning, you cheapen the
representation of what you're trying to communicate at a cost. But then the result is also what
you have to weigh out, and they get it for the most part. Otherwise we'd be here for days,
literally. So, more questions? Go ahead.
Student: A quick related question, and maybe I'm going ahead of you. A dark being approaches a
being that doesn't know anything else but love. There is love already; they don't have to work at
it. Will there be a change, assuming that light is always stronger than darkness?
Eric: You assume right, in my opinion.
Student: So a dark being approaches a love being intent on stealthy evil. All that it receives back
is love. Is there going to be a change of the dark being of any kind?
Eric: It's free choice. If they choose to be that way, free choice. They just choose, "This is the
way I want to be." I often say, impact them with love, and they will change in time. We, as
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Light, have a way. If we're a seed in a stone, what's going to happen to that stone? What's going
to happen to the stone eventually if we're a seed inside the stone? You don't have to see instant
results. Everybody wants instant; we don't need instant. We're patient, most of the time. We're
patient and that's the most you can do and when you're ready, you'll figure it out. I'm glad I had a
chance to show you a little representation and I hope I did a good enough job. That's the most
you can hope for. If it comes down to a dominant energy, you just project that energy out.
How can I describe how we feel about this? I want to say it's like something that dances
around. It's like an ice cube on a counter. You try to get the ice cube and the sucker keeps
spitting out away from you. As long as you have that vibe, the Darkside can't nail you. That's the
best way I can interpret it. But if you forget about it, if you get lost, things can happen then.
Don't ever forget that. When you feel a heavy opposition, just meditate; that's it, and it's like
Kung Fu, right off of you, literally. You're thinking, "What if it's (roaring sound)?" I'm telling
you, just sit down, call on that place; it's going to be a lantern in the darkness. It's just going to
cut right into it. And you go, "Okay, have you had enough? See you later." It's that simple. It's
really truly that simple but if you want to play with it, what happens to a kid that plays with fire?
So it's common sense in life that you have to reflect.
The Darkside, or these particular people, they're not looking for attention. They don't
want attention. They're not going to sit there and (makes woo woo sounds. They're not going to
do that. They don't want to draw attention either so don't expect to just run into them. They are
blended in as well as you guys have blended in. Do you understand? You know what you are.
You know what you serve. They kind of do too, but they call it a different kind of good. But if
you were to weigh it, the apple is very different from the orange, but there are similarities. And
they present it in a certain way.
It reminds me of when I moved to Arizona once, a long time ago. They had all of these
orange trees. And we looked at them and said, "Wow, look at all these oranges." We're thinking
they're really juicy and sweet and everything. Does anybody know anything about Arizona
oranges? Well, like the fools we were we're like, "Hey, look at me; take a picture," I just plucked
it off the tree. We're from the East Coast so we don't really have oranges. So we open it up and
(sniffing sound) Mmm! Putting it our mouth....(sounds of chewing and extreme distaste.) It's the
worst, most horrendous taste, I couldn't believe something that looked so great had such a bitter
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taste. I was like, "What are these oranges?" Well, they look pretty. Does anybody really know
why they do it? It's for decoration. It's a way to get the snowbirds down there.
It is what it is and until you really sample it, it's a little too late. I didn't have a way to
wash it out of my mouth. I was kind of stuck with it. You can only spit so much. You have to be
careful what you're lured into. Once it's there, you're kind of stuck with it but you have to
remember, no matter how bad things get, no matter how off-track you might get, you can still
spit it out. Just endure it; it'll pass.
Love is a beautiful, beautiful thing. I was talking to one of my students in the back there
and we were saying that a lot of people came here for spiritual lessons, but it's good that you
brought this all up. I'm thinking, "I give spiritual lessons all the time." I didn't really want, or
intend to make it about this particular topic. I don't want everybody to leave and go, "Well now
we have to really look over our shoulder." It wasn't meant that way. What was meant is if
something, God forbid, were to happen to me, I have to share this. The book doesn't spell it out
but it alludes to it. Like most spiritual teachers, we try to move around it because we don't want
to incite some God-knows-what, a riot, or burning down these buildings or something. We don't
want that. In some way, you have to communicate it to an intelligent group of people.
You already know all of this. It's just like everything else I put out there. I always see the
nod of the head. But I have to spell it out for a few and lay it all out and they're like, "Okay, we
get it." It has to be put out there. I can't have you guys learn so much, and then go out into the
world and there's something I didn't give you. It's not right. I have to say, "This is what's bad;
this is what's good. Don't eat those oranges. They're not what they look like. Trust me on this." I
have to share that insight. And if there was ever a pressing issue, then what should I say? The
rest of the time I can talk about other great stuff but I really need to squeeze something in. Let's
talk about this. Let's point out what's on everybody's mind. It's on everybody's mind. The
question is, "What is it? Where is it? How is it?" So, there we have it.
Keep in mind that they're not looking to bring attention to them. They're not wanting to
come out and look for you, but if you're going to look for them, you're going to run into them.
It's the same thing with me and spiritual stuff. I talk about this ghost or spirit and some people
roll their eyes and they're like, "How can one person have so many experiences with ghosts and
stuff?" And I say, "Tell me, how did you end up going to Singapore? How did you go to
Thailand, and how did you go to Hong Kong?" "Well, I joined the military; that's what I did." So
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I say, "Well, I decided to join the paranormal group and I put the time in and the energy. Every
hundred houses we were bored to death, but there was always that one pearl where something
went down. After a while, we got to figure things out and see what's what and get the patterns
down. That's how. So if you go out looking for trouble, you're going to get trouble. But rest
assured that all of you can handle trouble and if you can't, it's your own darn fault. You need to
listen to what I had to say then.
Student: I'm just amazed at the length of time that I've been involved in spiritual work, and the
realizations that I've had, and all of the things that I don't know that Eric has pointed out to us in
the group. It's been really informative and very useful. I've learned things that I can't wait to get
home and try and practice with. Very positive for me. Very positive.
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Student Testimonial: From todays discussion, I felt a lot of love. I also felt within the space and
spectrum of love that it activates the messages of each individual - the unique messages with
power - with further ammunition to keep on rolling. So it combines a passive and an active force
together, which is power and love, and its poured down into a human vessel of great creativity,
with tremendous possibility and potential.
Eric: So, reflect on love; reflect on the beauty; harmonize your house; build your energy up. If
negative, crappy energy hits you, dice it up. Youve got all the tools. I laid them all out. Live
your life as a human being; be happy; be healthy; love the people in your life and let them love
you. Forgive, forgive, and forgive, because to hang on to it just doesnt do any good. Dont let
them harm you; dont have so much forgiveness that you end up getting hurt all over again, but
dont hang on to it.
When you try to get your physical life in order, then also work on your spiritual life and
thats whats going to give you the permanent peace, the inner healing that no medicine can heal.
Its going to be what completes you, builds you and grows you and connects you. When you say
to yourself, I need that extra something; I need to know God and I need to really feel
something. And Ill say to you this: manifestation, manifestation, manifestation. Forget about
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manifesting money; forget about manifesting a house or a lover, or whatever it is. Manifest God
to give you something solid, a profound experience. Then you can say, Im satisfied. And
theres nothing wrong, nothing wrong! And most of you guys in that particular context are
unsatisfied! You want to be satisfied, but you know its not an ego thing. Its not; you were told,
Have faith; you shouldnt ask. This is the control of religion.
God wants you to find God. Thats why youve got a brain; thats why youve got the
instinct; thats why youve got this feeling. It is saying, Im going to lay it all out, but Im not
going to force you. And you are supposed to say, Well, is it a spiritual happy feeling? One
day when I was a little kid, sitting on a stone, on a cloudy day, I said to the Universe, Im not
going to do anymore spiritual stuff because I dont know if its good or if its bad. Some
religious people told me that, 'You dont know the difference between God and the Devil, and
its 50:50 in the end and thats that.' And I was like, Well, I cant tell the difference, so Im
doing none of it at all. I love God so much, and I was just like, Thats it!
So on a rainy day, I sang a little song, If I was an angel Ill fly in the sky. I used to
make it up; I didnt know why; I didnt have any real song I knew. But I was always very much
in love with God and the Universe, and spirituality. It was a rainy, rainy, rainy day and I walked
out to the stone. I sat on the stone and this path, soaking wet and I said, Okay, Im not asking
you for any signs, no signs, because I know Im not supposed to. So, this is the deal! And I feel
like I gave him an ultimatum in a way, so I felt bad about it. I said, Im not going to do any
more psychic work; Im not going do any more healing stuff or energy; Im not going do any of
it, because I dont know how to tell the difference. I dont know how to tell the difference. And
Im told that some of it is from this side and that side. I dont know. This is a heck of the position
youve put me in, is what I think I was trying to say. So I said, Unless you give me a sign, Im
not going to do any of it! You give me a sign, fine; I know you are serious, because I know you
just arent going to do it! And I really thought, Well, thats that! Thats it, were done!
The clouds opened up, just like in the holy stories. And the sun came down, just like in
the holy pictures in the valley and the golden sun and it went down on me. And everything just
went 'huuuuuuuum', but not in my ears, but loud, internally; every single cell of my body was
humming, as I've experienced in other meditations. And it said to me not, This is God. It said
to me in absolute, absolute definition emotionally, You are One with Me. You are doing my
will. Do my will.
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All right. Thats it. Im here today, all these years, everything Im doing and Im doing it.
Im not a preacher; Im not a holy man; I dont want to profess that Im an enlightened being;
Im just doing what it is that I do. This is what I feel and this is what I need to do. And I said it in
so many words, Okay, Im not going to argue with you. And the clouds rolled back together.
The rain started trickling down; I was perfectly dry. I cant imagine it lasted more than a few
seconds, I have no idea. Im sure memories of a child are a little different from what I may
perceive now but the whole of it is exactly what happened. And Ive never questioned it since. I
know when Im doing good and I know when Im doing bad. So Im not going to just assume
that there is a greater evil making me do something. If the greater evil makes me cause someone
to be ill or it teaches somebody to find God, well then, I have no argument there. It is what it is!
But if Im suffocating something thats a living creature, or if Im harming somebody
purposefully, willfully and I know right from wrong, we all do. Thats the basics of what you
have got to know; dont worry about some hoofed horned guy. Hes got nothing better to do with
his time than to go into everybodys life, with 6 billion people to work on? I can think of better
things to do. But it doesnt remove the fact that there is a Darkside and it operates a bit
differently, but it exists.
So you can find what Ive found. When you talk about an experience, what Im saying is
you dont have to have faith; you dont have to feel warm and fuzzy. If you really put it out
there, Ive had dozens of those kinds of experiences. You guys are thinking, Oh that's Eric. All
right fine, Ive got few things on you guys, okay? But everything, that Ive given you guys, is
exactly what I know is going to give you that same effect, maybe differently. Im sure it will be
different, but so profound! So profound that you know! There are so many people that spend
their whole life knowing, but they didnt get that. There were a lot of people to go around to
make happy. So you have to raise a little, pardon the pun, a little hell. You have to do that, to
say, Alright, Ive tuned myself up. I need you to take it up to the next notch. Im telling you,
manifest it. When I say manifest it, dont ask for it. Dont say, This is what I need, like Im
saying now. You put out there, Okay, Im not demanding it, Im wishing for it. And Ill wait.
And when you're satisfied with waiting that is the true moment that actually happens.
You think that youre not really asking, but internally you are. And you have to have the
mechanisms built to open that doorway. Youve got to work with this. You dont have to be a
psychic telepathically, or move objects. You've got to have the fundamentals, because when it
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begins to happen, your sensory is going to kick in for other areas. What happens is that your
brain shuts it down because its so foreign. And you've got to go, Okay, Ive got a good sense of
whats going on; lets keep it going. All right, its happening. My other sensory is telling me it
isnt there, but its there. Im not going to fight it; I get it. I have training for this; I have
understanding for this, and thats when it can happen. Thats when it does happen.
One of my students, who is in here, talked about his particular experience one day and he
was saying, Okay, Im going to give up all of this and focus and train. And of course, the
Universe opened up to him. Now that Universe probably wouldnt have gotten that far, because
he wouldve been like, Aaaaaaahh, and he would have run away. You have to be
psychologically prepared for the profound thing you ask for; it doesnt mean you are ready for it.
And who knows if it hasnt already been on your doorstep and you panicked! You put it out of
your head a little bit or maybe you said, God, I wish I wouldve stayed when that certain
something was happening. I freaked. Even God can be spooky. Its all a matter of intellect and
understanding of what we are experiencing that allows us to have that experience. The more you
understand, the more you are prepared for, and the more that you can allow to have happen.
Unless you are looking for the Darkside, getting back to that now, dont worry about it!
Work on your spirituality; dont get so caught up in this battle, per se. When the moment comes,
youll get a letter from me or something. No, Im kidding. Youre going to know. Youre going
to know. Dont be sitting there every day worried, Is this the moment? Is this the ahhhh? Dont
obsess over that. Obsess with life; enjoy life; you're here for a reason. Smell the flowers; feel the
grass, even eat the bad oranges for the experience. But enjoy life. Revel in it!
Meditate, and find this other dimension, and begin to explore it; prepare yourself for
when you leave this physical vessel so that you are able to move. Its like you learn to swim
while youre still in a body. Do you understand? When the effect happens, either you're going to
white wash into the Gaia mind or you're going to go, Oop, oop, oop wrong direction! Okay?
And you're going to go, Eric, yep, energy, yep, whoa, we are moving now! Youre going to
figure it out, even though you dont know what to expect. Believe me, youve been taught;
youve been training. Its like the basketball players; youve been training for it! It will come to
you at the moment you need it most; rest assured, absolutely. Youre going to be like a fish
dropped in the water. You are just going to get it.
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And right now, youre trying to get it while you are in a different mechanism to
understand it. So part of this hassle is getting these two different things sequenced. Dont worry
about that. Now that weve covered all that, we can get back to what I promised to talk about.
When there are conflicts spiritually, call them psychic wars, call them good versus evil,
call them whatever you want. Whether they are dragons or gods and deities, this is just
symbolism to create something, so that you can understand it. Then, we can visualize as human
beings what we are seeing. There are dimensional frequencies, as I've said to you the Do, Re, Mi.
There is this frequency that cuts through this level that we exist in. When you meditate, youre
going past it; you're just going for the Re. Who wants to go through the 'hhhhhhuuuuuuuurr?'
You kind of already know what you are trying to hone into.
But there are other dimensional spaces and for those of us who are developed in such a
way, we can go there. Ive seen it at sunset the other day; it was very beautiful. And it had the
contrast of the grey and the mountains and in between it had this orangey-yellow color. It was
beautiful. Sometimes peaches get that color; it is that red-yellow hue. This is what that
Dimension kind of looks like, if I had to see it as a color. Humans eyes versus dimensional
frequency, I'm trying to give texture to this. Its like static energy. Its just this vastness; its at
this point when you travel to another place. Its like if you were to move through dimension from
here to here, you would fold time. But there are these two fingers for space there. What the hell
is all squished in there and moving that you are hopping across. This is that kind of place.
So we go there and I say sometimes that this is where the skirmishes happen. We are
cruising, Ya, ya, ya, who is that over there on the range? They are moving also. Its like a
consciousness. We have points where one gets this energy and then tries to dominate, especially
the collective when youve got multitudes of people working on this. I dont want to say it is
almost like rain, but it's like a frequency that comes out of it and goes into the Gaia mind. The
Gaia mind; all human beings just like the cells in your body, when you get depressed, your
immune system drops. If you become positive and happy, your immune system increases. Youre
talking to this inner Universe through these emotions. In this frequency place, these beings who
have a lot of control can amplify louder. Its like having a stereo; it has its own volume; it has its
own control, but some people buy an amplifier to boost it, to enhance the signal thats being
broadcast. Individuals learn to be very strong broadcasters over ordinary or other normal white
cells, per se. And then you have the red cells who are like your cells; they are just saying, Well,
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we feel it; we dont know why were doing it but we're going to do it. So in this particular
arena, you have a lot of these beings who have a little bit more say of whats going on. Its just
like in your brain; you have different parts of your brain that have more command over things
that are going on in your body than other places. They have other jobs, other things they are
doing, other complexities, but these little pinpoints within your organic brain are shooting out
inspirational ideas that are accepted and taken on. Its like a broadcast, and you just hop to what
that signal is and you start doing it. You dont know why; you just do it.
Its very similar compared to the planet as a living organism. You have other beings that
are able to permeate there; its a place that one can broadcast. Even with your body sitting here,
it moves into this other frequency. So in a way, we are not here at all but we are in this other
place. And we might communicate through a kind of emotion very rapid, very fast like, Okay,
this is whats going on; this is whats happening in the Universe; this is a negative charge
moving this way; who is behind it? Those people. So we are like, Okay, lets confront it by
moving this heavy wave back, and again: water. Do you understand? Lets move it back; lets
try to suppress it together. Or confront it very directly; you can say its like static energy
fighting.
It's like filming Kirlian photography, which is of the human aura. If you have a finger
missing, they can still find the missing finger; the energy is still there. And they do all sorts of
interesting things with leaves and light sources and everything. One of the things they do is when
they get two people to put their fingers together; its like the electricity fights with one another.
And if you get two lovers together, they become one; it becomes this beautiful pink violet hue.
And its kind of like that. When you meet in this place of frequency, either you go,
Whoa, this is good; were jiving, or you feel this resistance towards each other and you can
feel it trying to dominate you and you have to push back and dominate back. Its like a little kid
out of control, Okay, take it easy buddy; breathe. This is the best way that I can explain what
happens in these other frequencies. And when it gets big or when its dominated by a majority of
consciousness, its able to push, not necessarily that they are even getting in there, because they
always have a few that are able to pull the rest of that energy up in there. Do you see what Im
saying? Its like rain over a country, or a town, and it affects the whole mood. This is what
spurns different kinds of consciousness like, Lets burn all those other people and bomb them.
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Yeah, I agree. And then other people say, Thats crazy. What are we thinking? Its like a
unified movement of thought.
A lot of people dont know this, but Ive had a variety of jobs like anybody else and at
one point I would be on the phone telemarketing a little bit and I was always very good at it. And
one of the thing that was interesting is the computer would set us with different areas to call and
wed work in that one town and thats how they kept track of what areas we had worked on. And
one of the things that we all noticed in the office was that we would all complain about the same
area. We were like, We dont want to call there anymore today. And they were like, Why?
Because nobody wants to buy anything; everyone has the same attitude. All right, all right, all
right. So when we are all done bitching and complaining, more or less about it, they finally gave
in and they moved it. And we would get to another area and people would be buying all day
along. We weren't doing anything different. Nobody knew that the other ones were doing
miserable until somebody started piping up.
What did that tell me? I was a little clued in; I figured a few things out. The thing is that
the consciousness is moving. And in certain ways when you call to test it, you can see the
commonality of the reaction. So we are talking layers and layers of complexities like this that
affect all of us. We are all in this matrix; all asleep; all functioning; just doing and not really
staying awake. I always say, Awaken; come out of your sleep. Youre fighting to be awake
now as Im speaking to you, to be conscious.
So the bottom line is that this is part of all of that; so when youre all asleep, those of us
who are both good and bad, what do you think were doing? We dont want the bad guys to
dominate and now we have all sorts of havoc to deal with, with all the red cells and with all the
masses of consciousness. So we are busy saying, Well, were going to protect them while they
are sleeping. Were going to try to get enough of them to be awake and conscious, so that they
cant be manipulated so easily. Were going to have them help bring down and work with
popping up for air and going back down and doing the work. We're going to get a lot of us doing
this and we're going to maintain this frequency and continue this for the whole of this planets
consciousness to progress to the point where there is a lot more frequency with a waking state of
mind, than with just sleep and functioning. Its about who is pulling the strings. Its about who is
manipulating the consciousness and in what direction.
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Now thankfully, I have nothing but good things to say about most, even from Buddhism,
to Christians, to Hinduism. All of them are greatly contributing in a positive way, although in
some ways horrifically on other levels. It depends on the time, the era and again, this influence.
Even the best organizations can be infiltrated and you can get to the key places and it goes down.
For the most part, they're praying, and I'll take that as a positive affirmation. Its a good thing;
you want good things to happen. If you do Buddhist chants, youre emanating a higher, better
frequency. We have these other energies out there, but as Ive said to you before the Darkside,
like anything else, has learned to do what the Force does: adaptation. Adapt to the situation and
attempt to find new ways to overcome it. So of course it mimics and its doing similar things; its
getting more complicated; its getting more challenging. Its trying to achieve its goal just like
how the Life Force is trying to achieve its goal. Does everybody follow me so far?
Okay. This is this dimensional play; now its not to say that there aren't other dimensions
but you have to keep in mind several things. One: There was a time when the Darkside really
wasnt able to enter this higher frequency that Im talking about. They did not have what I would
call the technology, the ability. And so it was more organically, what I would call politically
manipulative. It's as if it worked on a different level. Of course, it had its own frequency but that
doesnt mean that frequency existed in a good enough position to affect the consciousness of the
planet. So it worked differently.
It is only in the last, maybe two hundred years or so that it's adapted and learned enough
that now it has a foothold in this higher frequency. Now beings, in a dark school, are getting
skilled enough, or learned enough that they are able to start getting into this thing. And this is
what has started this whole new arena of problems. And this is getting up to this key point and
time and what may or may not go down. This is what makes things kind of critical, but for the
most part they still lack the ability. Only the very strongest of them are able to really do this at
this point.
If you look at them, they are finding other ways to integrate, to mimic, to take science in
a sense and refine it to reflect it. And so there is an integration there and its all very complex.
Its very hard to see the layers; I always feel like a researcher and you have to count all of these
little DNA strains to find out what the differences are. So I dont want to bother you guys with
this kind of, Whoa, it sounds so complicated!
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So, at this point weve had to deal with it more on a psychic level. The psychic in my
opinion is still very organic, as you know. The telepathy thing, energy fields moving, this is not
necessarily this higher spiritual frequency. This is still organic like your five senses. Its just the
closest bridge to this realm. And this is what you guys are using to develop a little bit to cross to
that higher level. This is what they work on mastering also. Hence, you get into these psychic
wars, where they're permeating their mind against yours or pushing certain barriers. This is what
they try to master and do, but when it really comes down to moving into this higher frequency,
they cant necessarily do it, because that frequency is made of the fabric of God! It is what we
are inside of us and we just turn it inside out and pop into this greater place that we like to be.
That was a really good statement right there. I hope everybody caught it.
So they are not able to do that. Do you follow me? They are not able to pop into that
inner-dimension. If they do it, they end up in this place where, call it the Darkside, call it
whatever you want. Its that other mimicking frequency, but there isnt anything there except for
lifelessness. They are working very hard to get up into those frequencies. And these are the
things that we have to take into consideration and look at and say, Well, they adapt. This is
what I call the recruitment of looking for white cells to turn over, the ability and the potential
organically thats designed in the fabric of our being. Im not necessarily saying that organically
theyre going to cut us open and find the difference, but Im telling you harmonically there is a
difference. Its like a genetic advancement, but not literally genetically. Does everybody follow
me so far on all of that? Its very complex; Im trying to keep it very simplified, to communicate
it well.
When you meditate, you sit in your chair or you sit on the floor and you go into that
place. Youre working on turning it inside out, or youre bringing that other frequency in. When
you have so-so meditations, you got to relax. You did good and its all fine. Theres nothing
wrong with a basic meditation. Youve got to quiet the mind too; life is life. But there are those
moments when you start to cruise. When you know something very different is going on. You
can see these Planes of Light or you feel frequency and humming. If I was to take this threshold
Im talking about, I always say there is a sliver line that is its barrier line, where my hands are,
the fingers, the thickness of them. Do you understand? Its that point that you are kind of at and
its working and manipulating your energy fields so that you can come in because it wants you to
come in. Its like saying, Okay, you're cool; you pass, come on in, and thats what youre
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doing. But the brain is going, Whoa, what are those lights out there? Whats going on? Whats
that rumbling? And so it brings you back down again. This is that continual, perpetual battle
between the two. And it's not going to go away. Theres no easy fix for that.
So you listen to the material; you dont have to have it down to good practice. I said it in
one of the things we send out as bonus material and all of the students go, Thats probably
better than the most of the material, and I say, Thats why we give it away for free. So I say,
If you are outside and its raining whats going to happen? You're going to get wet. You're
going to get wet. You stand in it and you get wet. If you just listen to the material, you're going
to get wet. Its going to have an effect, even if you dont get it 100%. I dont care; that deeper
consciousness is getting it. And thats whats going to start tuning you up. Its going to start
raising your energy up. Its going to have an effect whether it's a day, a week, a month or five
years. You might have off-shooted into different areas. So youre getting better at certain areas
but you always say, Im not very good. Well, you spent time almost perfecting here and you
stopped, but you never really push it to the maximum. If everybody reflects where they are at,
youre going to find different strategies youve gone through.
So you have to get out there; you have to do a little bit of energy work. You have to go
out there and think about the psychic stuff that I teach. You have to sit down and play with
remote viewing or the telepathy that I teach. Its like raise this arm; it's one class. Raise this and
it's another, and when youre done you have this flexibility. And then, when you go into that
place with this energy moving and you get it and you are like, Okay, dont talk. You are talking;
shhh! And you are like popping in and out.
Theres a reason for it. When you meet or come across a darker being, it makes itself
present to you for several reasons. You might say, Well, I didnt go out looking for it, Eric; this
is pretty heavy stuff. And Ill say, Well, its like you guys become a light in the darkness,
dimensionally. And theres this light, and there are like fish and they are swimming and this
energy field to them is very different and theyre seeing something sparkling. And theyre going
to go, What is that? And they are going to come over and try to figure out what this light is.
And theyre either going to manifest into this dimension in an energy form to say, Whats going
on here? Or they might stay in a static energy.
Its a whole new area to get into but the point is that you might be like, Whoa, I feel that
negative energy. Many times, its not an evil entity. They don't know any different than you;
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they are curious but if you dont know what it is, if you're not schooled in it, what is the first
thing human nature feels? Fear. So we act to it in such a way, but I dont discourage that panic
because if it is something bad, I dont want you to sit and go, Nice kitty. So have
apprehension, but dont let it overwhelm you. Do you see what Im saying? Dont let it take
control of you. But nine times out of ten, its not even anything negative. All these people tell
me, That was like a bad spirit, red eyes, and I was like, Think of the stump in the woods,
there was a presence there but you probably filled in a lot of the details based on fear.
Its all about control; remove the babbler; remove the fear; let your mind glide. Hey
journeyer, how are you doing? What do you want to exchange here? Im open to talk. Just make
your good presence known first. You emanate that, Don't come at me with an on-rush but come
to me with what it is that you want.
When you meditate, all you have to remember is if you think it's a little shaky, and you
think it's a little dicey or something negative is looking for you, just think about right here, just
right here (heart chakra). Its like, Huuuuuuum. Do you understand? That's it; its all over. It is
a pure resounding of the frequency that is the God frequency. And let me tell you, its like a laser
beam to a piece of paper. Its the only way I can explain it. And theyre going to move out of
there super-fast. And youll mess it up now because as soon as something happens youll think,
Oh, I can go to my spot here, but you already just did it. You just thought about it. You're
already changing your frequency just by thinking about; you have it as a safety valve. Thats
how quick it is. Now you guys might be thinking, Maybe Erics telling us all of this to make us
feel a little better; weve got a little something to back us up. Well I say, Go try it. Thats a
double loaded question there.
So the point is that you have complete control when it comes to the energy. Now if its a
guy who kicks your door in and you hear somebody marching up the stairs, go for the weapon or
out the window, instead of going for the heart thing. There is a difference there; lets not be too
lost there. Youll know the difference; youll feel the difference. Instantly, its that fast. You just
have to be sensitive enough to get it and react to what that decision is telling you, that inner
navigator, because your brain will always foul it all up. So again, its about catching that quick
sensory and it happens in a millisecond.
When we have skirmishes, this is when we enter these higher realms, or you guys might
be even pushing those thresholds; for sure you are. Some of you guys are already probably
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dipped in and you are like, Well, Ive got there; how do I get back? Stop thinking how you got
there and you'll get there. Do you get that? Yeah, thats what I thought when they taught me that.
So the point is that it comes down to a duel of whose emotional programming is going to
dominate. Does everybody understand what Im saying? Theyre going to put this, what I can
only say is like a dark energy around you; its trying to encompass you and seduce you and hold
you in and you just eventually give. Okay? You need to lift this frequency. Think about the most
beautiful thing you can, in your heart; just take a breath and as you breathe, you are like a blow
fish 'hoooo.' And come down and breathe again 'hooooo.' Is there a limit? No, I light up the
whole city! Dont put a limit on it. Say, You want me? Try this out! Thats it!
The only thing thats going to defeat you is fear itself: fear of failure. Thats the only
thing, when you start doubting your own belief of how much you have it in you. I told you, you
better remember what Ive said. There is an ocean, beyond comprehension; there is a doorway
that youre holding, right here (chest center); everybody can feel exactly what Im talking right
now. That little minor pressure, that sensory spot; you know its there. As soon as I talk about it,
your inner knowing says, Yeah, I know what he is talking about. When the time comes, and
you really know, no bull crap time, not like, Oh, right now sounds like a good time. It doesnt
work that way. Its absolute inner truth that knows it.
When that moment comes and you really need to call on that, you're just going to open it.
There isn't anything standing up to it: nothing stands up to it. The only thing thats going to stand
through is like a nuclear blast but you're going to walk right through it, if you have the right
frequency. It's as if it doesnt even exist. But if you dont exist at the right matter, the right
frequency, youre going to be gone. Does everybody understand?
When you encounter different levels, theres going to be negative people. Very quickly
Im going to say, Cut the negative energy. Its that simple. If you feel 'uhhh,' why do you feel
'uhhh?' Should you be ignoring that? Somethings telling you that something isnt quite right. Sit
down; use your tools; use your energy; your blade per se, whatever you want to conceive it as.
Or do some breathing and burn it all off, like it is cobwebs being thrown on a fire, 'pshttttttt,'
gone! Literally youll sit and you'll go, Yeah, its gone. How do you know? Its an inner
knowing. It knows.
If you feel it again the next day you say, All right, yesterday I got rid of it; its back
today. All right, we're going to come up with a super blade system. And its going to spin any
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time that energy approaches me, without me even knowing it is. Youre programming your
subconscious. It sounds crazy, but you are setting an automated defense. Just like you can
program that pillow to have bad energy, you can set up your natural sensory to have a defense
that sets off a red flag. You know what to do before you can even think about it, its already
blocking it. Like a computer, they have software that if it has certain words in it, it scans it and
filters it out. It does a little check, You are not allowed. Yep, yep. No, we know you!
Its the same thing. You are programming your energy field. The only difference is you're
intentionally setting standards. And how will you set the standards? What is it called? I dont
know its 'Marys energy.' Its not Marys energy. Its not, Oh, its these people Eric is talking
about, no. Feel it; you know the feeling? Thats the feeling; mark it; thats the bad energy. Do
you understand? You know it; you can recognize it; sense it; say, Thats it! Clear it out
whenever it comes in. You have full control of what energy comes near you; nobody can master
that, not even me. Its a choice. Your energy can simply stop it, if you choose.
When you're dealing with negative energy, thats how you do it. You simply set up a
blockage; acknowledge; affirm it; feel it for a second! Its almost like picking up a hand grenade.
You know what it can do; the pin is still there and you are like, Boy, Im really nervous right
now. Then don't pick it up; look at it. But you have to give it a moments attention to
acknowledge what it is to say, When I see it again, I better know its a land mine; its got a
spring it; I know what it is now. Do you get what Im saying? If you dont acknowledge it, like
somebodys blowing up and you are not looking for what caused it, you're going have a problem.
When most spiritual people have confrontation, they dont know what it is. Thats it; you
feel it; you sense it, its that weird, achy feeling. And then youre going to say to yourself, Well,
whats the weird achy feeling? Stupid, its the weird achy feeling! Its exactly what it is. It's the
same way the tree has a feeling; the water has a feeling. Its a specific frequency. And know
thats what it is. It doesnt have to be something; it doesnt have to be a person; it doesnt have to
be a structure; dont worry about it and analyze it later. Capiche? I like saying capiche.
Now, if you move into an arena when you're meditating and you think, Okay, Eric says
we have to meditate. Eric says we have to put a lot of positive energy out; this is a critical time,
you're a little nervous and you think, I dont want to let him down. If Eric says this is the
important time to do it, it must be important. Well, dont panic. In fact, maybe I'll just pull the
alarm to see how well you guys run out of the building and get into single file.
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It will never be the end of the world. You know why? We will live forever. Were going
to live forever; this is just one phase versus another. How many crises in life on a simple level
have you said, Ah, I'm never going to get through this. Its in the past now, youre going to be
hit with the next crisis; ready or not, you are just trying to prepare for something. Life is like that.
But right now we are dealing with the moment; we deal with it; we take it on.
So, when you meditate, you go into that zone; you follow your system; you go there.
Every time you meditate, you're putting this light out. You guys are going up for a breath of air
and coming down, and when you go up there, you're bringing it down; we are doing our job.
Whether you realize it or not, I always said the meditation system I teach is not one fold; its
multi-fold. It serves many purposes, and as you guys start to figure that out, itll make more
sense. Youre putting out a proper frequency and you are donating it to the Gaia mind, the Gaia
consciousness; you are contributing. You are receiving and youre also giving. Its very
important: receive and give. And its good; its building you, and the building is a greater
production because of what you can now do with it; youre projecting it back out.
When you enter these higher dimensional frequencies, emanate from here; emanate; think
about how much you love God, how much you love the Universe. Think about that absolute
undying devotion you have for the Force. It is profound; its deep in you! Let it come forward.
At that very moment, all I would ask from you is one single thing in that place: express at that
very moment the very thing you feel for God! Express it! And it will move the world. And no
matter what else is out there, it doesnt matter.
All I ask is to express that deep feeling of what you feel for the Force. Just say, This is
how I feel, and just let it out. Thats all you have to do. Its that simple. And if your life ever
gets so bad, if you're ever in a dark place, you remember: dont think about how the Universe
can help you; think about how you can help the Universe. Just simply open it, and give it! Thats
it. Its that simple! The rest is in the teachings. The rest is all of these other little levels; all the
training; work with that; apply it. Thats the bottom line. You feel it, open it! If you ask, How
does the door open? I just told you; you know; you just felt it; thats how you open it. Thats
how; you sit, you go into a meditation, and just say, Im going to open it; I just need you to
know. And just open it. And thats it. Good night.
Students: THANK YOU! Applauds!


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Eric: Theyre all copy-cats.

Eric: Which teachers are you speaking of?

Student: Yeah, thank you.

Eric: Questions? Oh yeah, more hands finally! Go ahead.

Student: What is the significance of the timing of this gathering?

Student: Thats what I meant about shape-shifting.

Eric: There is the fluctuation?

Eric: Supposedly, we do have Starbucks. Okay, I want to know where it is sometime.

Student: Does the Darkside exist outside of this dimension?

Eric: Thank you. Go ahead.

Eric: Are we talking on a paranormal level?

Student: Being awakened, I agree with that one hundred percent.

Eric: Thank you.

Eric: I understand that. We'll go into that today.

Student: Bending Reality.

Eric: Yes, did you listen to it?

Eric: Any questions regarding this right at the moment?

Eric: Okay, go ahead.

Student: Can you use them to move the energy?

Student: Its like a form of speaking. Its a universal form of speaking.

Eric: Right and I agree completely with you. Next?

Eric: Right. Its their time.

Student: But I cant make it happen. It just happens.

Student: I believe it was words. I believe I actually had a conversation.

Eric: Yes. Absolutely.

Student: Is there a technique to amplify or magnify the manipulation of energy?

Student: I really want to thank you.

Eric: Thank you.

Eric: You assume right, in my opinion.

Students: THANK YOU! Applauds!

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