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dliecht 0p 74 weeks ago +6

No question about it, people who think they know how the world "really" works, think they have a method of
knowing that is far superior to that of others, and therefore also pride themselves on the relative superiority
of their worldview in contrast to all those others who are not so enlightened, and who apparently have no
sense of self-criticism or irony about disparaging others for their foolishness, are a potential danger to others
in this world.

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Rick Patrick 74 weeks ago 0

Religion is not as old as humanity. It arrives around 7000 years ago. Ancient Archaeological finds from the
past which were labeled religious have since been understood to have been labeled religious due to the
preconceived notions of the Archaeologist.

Our most ancient human settlements have no evidence of war of death by human hands.

Religion arrives 7000 years ago. War 6700.

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Sherry Peyton 73 weeks ago -11

Sorry but as usual, the atheist continues to define his/her notions of religion based on one group only:
fundamentalists. I guess your arguments lose most of their punch when addressed to mainstream folks of
faith. We are, shockingly, scientists, writers, historians, and experts in all fields of endeavor. We don't think
science is bad, we think it is a great thing, and we don't believe most of the crap that fundies do...Yet you
continue to paint with a fundamentalist brush as if we were all the same. Your dishonesty in confronting
mainstream believers leads to the ultimate conclusion that you are but the other side of the coin....you are
fundamentalist atheists...and guess what? you are as silly as the fundies of all religions....You indeed are the
ones who belittle ALL believers suggesting that it is you who suffer from a self-appointed superiority
regarding all others...(we poor unsciency people!)...Nice try, but THINKING people will always see you for
what you are...and we dislike both elements of the fundamentalist intrusion on life....

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Jerry 71 weeks ago -3

All concepts are created by mankind - even science. Each has at its base a fundamental concept of identity.
Religions are good concepts of identity. Science has at its base the concept of matter and nothing beyond -
there is a fault in this conception of identity as well. Think not that science has any thing to do with truth just
as religions do not.
It is not about truth.

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Charles 57 weeks ago +8

A great article well written. I enjoyed the reading the pious among us trying dissuade the article while digging
a deeper hole for themselves.

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Karen 56 weeks ago +2

Interesting. What a lot of people don't take into account is that there are over two billion different religions
out there, one for each person who believes in some ultimate being, and about five billion views about it
among those who don't. The attempt to enforce conformity is more destructive than belief. It's that attempt
that becomes religion as deconstructed here.

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nikck 54 weeks ago +4

Religion is tradition. Traditions are old views, lets all be pro-active and realize we all need to change or we
won't move forward. Religion is the old way and more and more people are realizing that. My wife is a
preachers kid and i have shown her "the light." Come on everybody, lets bring all the "old way" believers into
the light. Quit being delusional and start working on fact. Religious people please dont trust DNA science
results in a murder case, or how your phone was invented but dont believe in science when it comes to how
old humanity is. Im a little drunk so pardon the phrases that are used.

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nikck 54 weeks ago +6

Quit being "a pussy" and say how you really feel. Religion is old just like slavery. Slavery is in the bible. Can
we please move on as a "modern world." In I would say, 200 years, religion will be looked at as slavery is
looked at. Come on people.

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Anne Richards 54 weeks ago -2

The author of this article shows little familiarity with the progressive schools of thought in various religions.
Many (if not most) people participating in modern Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism regard the sacred
texts metaphorically and specifically strive to update their practice to be relevant to the world we live in now.

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TomPeterKokko 13p 52 weeks ago +13

Religion is not good for anyone anymore.

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David Wright 39 weeks ago +5

Religion is destroying our world. In every place in this world, throughout history, humans have created
fictional, metaphysical beliefs to explain the events of the natural world. Humans have forever used religion
to control the masses. But we live in a modern world now, where science can provide answers to the
questions that ancient people used to rely on religion. It is beyond my understanding how people still follow
ancient books and believe in an invisible man in the sky. I am a believer in proof, and so far, religion has
failed miserably to prove to me the existence of God, or that being a part of a particular club of similar
minded backward thinking fools is of any value to my life. When I was a teenager and learned about the
Holocaust, I knew then that there was no God to speak of, but unfortunately, everywhere I looked, everyone

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else was speaking about him like he was real. Whether you are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or Jehova's
Witness, you are living in the past. You are hanging on to very old beliefs created by primitive people with
limited knowledge. I am always disgusted when I hear Christian people say they have a "personal"
relationship with God. If someone is hearing God I suggest they check themself into a psych ward, because
they are clearly hearing things that don't exist. The "relationship" these good Christians refer to is a feeling
created by them and their happy little fairy-tale world view that they want to live in. They want to believe
that there is a God that loves them so they simply go on believing it. They fantasize their God. And they
fantasize their happy, peaceful, insular world to feel safe and loved. And they fantasize their eternity in
heaven through works and/or strong conviction so they have another warm happy place in the afterlife. They
are afraid of the real world! Religion is destroying our world! Long before ISIS, I knew the Muslim religion was
awful! The Muslim religion hates non-Muslims. The Quran states that non-Muslims are animals, unclean, and
helpers of the devil. It states that Muslims should not be friends with non-Muslims. The Quran states that
people of other religions are to be violently punished in this world. I thought fundamentalist Christians were
backward until I read up on Muslims. Talk about Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs! As long as humans are living in the
past, people will continue to have serious problems sharing this world with one another and the incessant
violence will continue.

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Paul 36 weeks ago +1

The article was interesting. A few thoughts. Although many atrocities have been caused by organized religion,
how many lives have been saved by the teachings of " thou shall not kill, or love your neighbor as you love
yourself "? As far as science goes, the more I learn about the laws of physics the more I believe that there is
a law giver, who could be called God. I love science. From the cosmos to the smallest of particles, it is all to
perfect for me to believe that it was all an accident. I love science but there are many gaps that are unknown.
If some of the smartest people in the world can believe in string theory, which is says there are many of you
in different dimensions, why is the concept of a human spirit or another dimension called heaven so far
fetched? Some of the smartest people who ever lived were believers in a creator. That being said everyone
has a right to their beliefs or lack of. It's called respect.

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Andrew 36 weeks ago +3

My invisible friend is more important than your invisible friend

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Forreal 30 weeks ago -1

Ur fighting here they r fighting out der . keep going u just need to respect each others way of mind.

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Martha 29 weeks ago -5

Reading this garbage and then the comment garbage makes me realize just how much damage Satan is
doing in these end times. It's sad that so many think they are so smart, and that they just "happened" here
on earth. Judgement Day will definitely be a terrible day for all of you.

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libertyanne 29 weeks ago +2

The thing that bothers me about what i see in most religions...it's all about what you can't have and what you

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can't do. The world and the government puts limitations on us everyday. There are laws we have to obey, We
can't murder or steal. Jail is hell on earth. We don't need a faraway fictional fiery furnace to stay in line. And
we don't need to put any undue limitations on ourselves.
And the way the bible treats women and children has caused the mindset throughout time and across the
world that sanctions torture and misery by misguided men AND women who drown their kids because "God
said so." What kind of life does a woman have to be required to wear black wool in the heat of the desert? To
cover her face as if its a source of SHAME?
It causes women to be labeled a S1ut because she wears a short dress. And it justifies when she gets raped.
The man goes free and she is stoned for dishonor.
Instead of blaming the girl for what she wears why aren't our boys being taught to behave around girls in a
decent manner?

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Joe 25 weeks ago 0

Read this. A New Moral Code- Dr. Jeff Schweitzer

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proudindiv 25 weeks ago +1

I've always thought it is interesting to read the copyright page in Bible translations. The restrictions retained
show the fraud that goes into what they spout and that their religion is only about power and control. Of
course the King James Version's copyright has expired and it is in the public domain. That's why it's the
version that is given away for proselytization, as they don't have to pay the rights holder.

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Carrie French 25 weeks ago +1

Very very well said. Another article I truly love is thewisesloth.com. "10 ways Christianity ruins society".
It's sad how religion can control and inhibit. I am so glad I'm not alone on this one. And with a degree in
psychology do you know how hard it was to converse with my husband? Amazing we were together at all. I'm
sorry, he is/was a devout Church of Christ, Bible "authority" crap church goer. It has debilitated the entire
family from living a healthy life. Most suffer from deep depression and cannot even leave the house. From
birth to grave...............

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Doug Roberts 24 weeks ago +2

Very well written, and pretty comprehensive summary of the problems of irrational faith.

A key point that those who espouse a revealed religion, such as Christianity, Judaism, or Islam, should pay
much heed to, is that these religions actually prevent critical and reflective thinking.

Study of Human Consciousness and its machinations, is the real work in spirituality. Of the mainstream
religions, only Buddhism really takes the time to do this, and even then, somewhat poorly.

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Josef Boberg 6p 21 weeks ago +1

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mert 21 weeks ago 0

very nice.. but i think only the nonreligios people or nontheists will appreciate, while the majority will go on
believing and doing what they are told to. i wonder how many theists might have changed their mind and
point of view after having read this writing? let me say: none of them! they will come with weak
rationalizations and trying to justify the orders of their almighty god to be able to go on dreaming of going to
heaven after death. why does nature produce idiot majority against intelligent minority, why doesn't evolution
help desperate minority or why does it have to be that ten thousands of years should pass.. i am not asking
i'm just grumbling ...

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EvenlyOdd 21 weeks ago 0

Completely agree with your article. Religion does so much harm to well-built minds. Families get ruined
because of blind faith in religion, children get stumbled mental growth or suppressed growth because of
religion. Many more evil acts get spawned because someone became fanatic in exercise of religion.

"In their defense, many people are raised with their religious background and taught that it is completely
about love." Yes, then they say it's about love. What person in right mind wont equate freedom of expression
and personal individual space as love. Religion takes away that kind of love - one cannot ask questions, one
cannot follow those silent whispers in head, one cannot just be oneself, one cannot appreciate the beauty in
differences, one cannot do this, one cannot do that, one becomes outright evil - no that cannot be religion,
that kind of behavioral norm cannot be religion - it feels more close to I want to use some very bad word but
cant think of it.

Though it does help many a times. Most of us know that religion was or might have been created in that time
or even now only to create chunks of followers - sometimes those follower group do good things - many have
right intentions. Sometimes the follower group become fanatics to the extent of being so insensible as not to
understand the boundaries of humanity.

What we see in the name of fanatics of religion is just some people who have chosen the easier path of lazy
people who do not employ the mind's natural desire to close differences and live and let live. Religion (fanatic
kind) is not equal to God the concept is so odd and if it looked itself in the mirror all it will see is evil - pure
evil.

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Pete 16 weeks ago 0

To see where religion comes from read Sitchin's books.

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Betsy 11 weeks ago +1

I was raised in and lived most of my life in the fundamental evangelical "cult." I recently thought about the
first song taught to us at church - Jesus Loves Me. It shows how early the indoctrination starts. "Jesus loves
me this I know, for the Bible tells me so. Little ones to Him belong, They are weak but He is strong." If the
words were changed a little, it could go like this - "Allah loves me this I know, for the Koran tells me so. Little
ones to Him belong. they are weak but He is strong." It can be used for any religion. How about The Book of
Mormon? Children sadly are the target of religions, thus keeping them going.

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