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Disp vector not called in load case, but is used in #63299 - 06/13/15 12:47 AM
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I'm analysing Transportation case for a skid system already analysed for Who's Online
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operating conditions with displacements input at Tie-in flanges.
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and for these I'm nowhere mentioning the displacement vectors in load
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case. From this I get a set of stress results.
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Next, when I'm deleting the displacements at the tie-in points from the
input model itself amd with the same set of load cases I'm getting
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different set of stress results.
My concern is that if the displacement vectors are not included in the Su M Tu W Th F Sa
load cases then how the same is being considered for the stress 1 2
computation! I agree that the boundary conditions are getting changed
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in both the case but still, the displacement vectors are not called in.
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Re: Disp vector not called in load case, but is used in #63306 - 06/15/15 08:52 AM
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It is difficult to determine your situation here. 68429 Posts

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enter that load component by hand (e.g., change W+T1+P1 to
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Re: Disp vector not called in load case, but is used in #63308 - 06/15/15 10:16 AM
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DineshK
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06/11/15 Let me make it very straight forward.
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Loc: UAE When I have included displacement in the Caesar Spreadsheet but I
haven't included the same (i.e. D1 vectors) while defining the load case
intentionally and made a run, the report generared should be same as
without any displacement fed in the input model i.e. Caesar
Spreadsheet.....

Here what I feel is that when displacement vectors are not included in
load cases, they shall not involved in any computation and once they are

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not involved in any computation, they are as good as being an idle entry
in the system. But this is not the case as the result varies in both cases.
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Re: Disp vector not called in load case, but is used in #63309 - 06/15/15 12:59 PM
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Richard Ay
The software doesn't work that way. If you define a displacement vector
Member (D1), any DOF that you restrain is restrained in the model - regardless
of whether or not you include D1 in the load vectors.
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Posts: 5787 Recognize that a displacement is a boundary condition. Consider a
Loc: Houston, vessel nozzle where you define D1 as {0, .5, 0., 0., 0., 0.} In a case
Texas, USA where you include D1 you would expect DY to be 0.5 and the other five
DOF to be zero. In a case where you don't include D1 (such as W+P1,
SUS) you would want all six DOF to be zero, not free.
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Re: Disp vector not called in load case, but is used in #63320 - 06/16/15 09:32 AM
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DineshK
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