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My name is Yuri, and I'm here today to answer your
questions. Currently I travel to teach workshops on
hand balance and other acrobatic related skills for
adults(as well as how to develop related attributes).
In addition, I am a performer in Las Vegas.
I have not worked for any of the big companies like
Cirque or Dragone(though I have auditioned), I
mainly work corporate events performing.
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as it has been around forever, but I do think I can
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Alright, I have a few questions, I don't expect all of them to be Question about dips ( shoulder part )
answered, i'm just throwing ideas out:
MOST IMPORTANT : i CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE ANY
PROGRESS in my PLANCHE training and it's been years. I
CANNOT for the life of me get my knees off my elbows in the
straight-arm bakasana/frog stand. The ability to lean forward and
raise my butt up seems completely impossible despite closing in
on all my other physical goals and having gotten much stronger
in the past year.
1. Do you recomend training static strength holds all at once
in one workout or giving each a certain day or cluster?
(train planche and cross and front lever one after another
or give each its own day?)
2. How long should I be aiming to make my hand-balancing
skill work? If I start getting shakey/nervey pain up my
forearms, is it time ot quit for the day?
3. Are you a fan of a the "find your max hold time, and use
half of that time for your work sets" strategy for static
strength building?
4. Should most people train the manna even if we have no
real shot of ever getting it?
5. Any tips for pressing?
6. thoughts on people like Christopher Sommers and Ido
Portal?
7. You looked swole as fuck in person, it was really
motivating.
8. Are handstands best trained for like 15 minutes per day or
once or twice per week for an hour?
9. Do you ever train aerial straps?
10. What circus arts do you feel develop or require the most
general form of strength?
11. How long should we be trying something with no visible
improvement before we can say "okay, this isn't working, i
need a new strategy"?
12. So you're saying we don't need 100% super scapular
protraction or elevation for a proper handstand?
13. When are you coming back to NYC? (I'm sorry that our
city is so unfriendly, i read your blog post about teaching
beginners with no assumptions about what they know and
try to take it into consideration when giving tourists
directions now)
14. How did you get into tricking?
15. You posted a video of you squatting light the other day.
Have you ever tried powerlifting or seriously pursued any
form of squat or deadlift? How do you train your legs
usually?
16. How important is it at a certain point to just get a coach
and stop trying to figure everything out yourself? (hint
hint)
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1. I prefer to limit this training to a couple per day, ideally poses that complement each other.
2. There is no set time, but I would say not to work under much stress of fatigue until some good movement
patterns are built. There is a time and place for endurance, but it's best not to push it in the beginning
3. I am a fan of sub maximal sets more often, at least in the beginning. I not to work with numbers too often
though.
4. You don't necessarily have to train the manna, but I do feel that pushing work in shoulder extension is great
rehab to correct and balance out the shoulder after things like planche, bench press, desk work, etc.
5. Pressing is a very general term, you'll have to be more specific.
6. I have taught at a couple of the older GB seminars and worked with Chris Sommer. I have never met Ido
but I have followed him for a while and his work has definitely inspired me quite a bit. I think they're both
doing great work progressing this kind of training, I just don't always agree with the attitude in which they
present their materials.
7. Thanks :)
8. I think you will see the most progress and gain the most awareness with a daily practice. Balance changes
from day to day, so training only once a week won't allow you to calibrate it.
9. Yes
10. A lot of the circus mentality is about finding a way to "cheat". Trying to make something look hard to the
untrained eye when in fact it is quite easy for the performer. Because of this, many apparatuses don't
require much raw strength to excel at.
Straps is a circus apparatus that is definitely very strength heavy compared to others.
11. Depends on the movement in question, but if I were really strict I would not allow for more than two
repetitions of the same mistake in a row without changing something.
12. Correct. Neither of them are universal concepts in hand balancing, though a lot of people could benefit from
these cues. "Proper" is very much depending on the individual and goals.
13. All good, I generally have a tendency to get lost easily. No plans to return to NYC yet, but I will be back.
14. When I started capoeira in 2004, internet searches let to sites like Bilang and TricksTutorials
15. I never went full on powerlifter, but for a time I did focus on squats, deads, O lifts, and old time strongman
lifts. My current leg training includes ballet, capoeira, basic floor acrobatics, some easy pistol and hamstring
work, and the occasional sprint. I have the disease where I gain leg mass very easily ;)
16. Never stop trying to figure things out for yourself, but it is incredibly valuable to seek out guidance every so
often.
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I CANNOT for the life of me get my knees off my elbows in the straight-arm bakasana/frog stand.
Have you tried raising one knee off? Doesn't have to be much, just like even a centimeter off at first, one knee at a
time and over the weeks you may be able to extend more, albeit that is a very slow process, but, most challenging
things are.
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Watch and read as much as you can, then experiment to individualize the concepts in question.
Take your time, have fun, and don't be afraid to seek out guidance on occasion.
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It's not so much about numbers as it is about feeling. There is also a point where more repetitions will not help the
cause until some universal factors are fixed.
Very general answer, but I would focus the first session on pure positioning and skill work then the second session
would focus on conditioning, strength, and endurance.
The goal of session 1 would be to use as little force as possible for everything. Save energy, don't press, be
conscious of your alignment and go slow. The goal is to increase body awareness here. You shouldn't feel worn
out after this session. Some of the drills I show in this video are great for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=ytjIgIe5CVQ
Second session would be more focused on things like presses, HSPU, air baby, and other higher energy cost
movements. While these movements aren't essential prereqs for OAH, they will help immensely.
Honestly, you can work endurance every set by just holding everything a little bit longer, or holding a regular two
arm handstand for a while after the set is finished.
I haven't found extended one arm static holds against the wall too useful for balance, but I definitely use the wall
as an aid for learning weight shifts.
As far as endurance, my favorite thing to do would be a kind of drop set where I go as long as I can away from the
wall(but close by) then finish out the set against the wall. Typically I would play music and alternate hands every 2
or 3 8-counts. This helped a lot to make the time pass by.
A true max endurance hold to failure is quite stressful on the CNS, so I wouldn't do more than once or twice a
week.
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Strength and flexibility are general attributes, and usually to make gains in one means losses in the other.
It's about knowing your weaknesses and understanding the downside to the kind of training you do.
There are good flexibility protocols that actually build strength in the end range of motion, check out some of Kit
Laughlin's work.
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There is definitely not one answer to this as a lot of skills and movements can actually act as a detriment to others.
General movements we can all benefit from are rope climbs, handstand pushups, and one legged squats.
However, the real benefit to a generalist is to identify areas where they are weak and hammer those out.
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Yuri, what have been the biggest issues with older athletes (say 40 and up although I acknowledge that's an arbitrary
line I've drawn.) How do you train or condition differently and do you see the same levels of handbalancing success in
this group?
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Two issues:
Disconnection to one's own body Psychological resistance to learning the skill in question
I wouldn't say I change or condition any differently, but I will take more time with exercises that build body
awareness. In my second point, it's about showing the athlete what it feels like to safely hold and bail out of the
position. Once this is established, the subconscious can lower its guard.
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I used to think about this more, then the longer I spent in the circus world the more I realized it was all trivial.
With the chinese you'll get brutal stretching from a young age and more focus on on developing numbers and work
capacity then emphasis on form.
Russians are pretty strict with form and positioning. The french style is mostly based on master Claude Victoria,
who I have never trained with but I had a few friends who trained under him.
There are 3 resources on this, first off the Chinese Circus School documentary that came out some time ago.
Ido Portal's old blog has an entry about his training with Claude Victoria.
Sammy Dinneen also write a couple essays about his time at the Kiev Circus school. You'll have to do a little bit of
digging to find these.
Ultimately training with an old school circus master works the best if you have the same teacher every day for a
few years. Mostly you'll get very little theory, very basic cues, and spotting on exercises you may not be ready to
do yet.
It's a method that definitely works for many, but not my preference.
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Without physically working with you, I cannot spot the real issue. I can give you a couple concepts to work with
though:
1. Entry to handstand is about precise placement. You want to use your momentum to place every part of your
body exactly where you want it to get in your line. When you do it right it should feel like you get stuck in a
handstand. Learn what it feels like to hit exactly the right point, then build the awareness of what it is to kick
too far or not far enough.
Using the wall or a spotter can help, but it may build too big of a reliance.
2. Remember that balance happens not just in the handstand but on the way up as well. i actually start in a
position where I already have the majority of my weight on my hands. This gives me a lot more control to
adjust the balance on the way up.
The standard gymnast kickup doesn't allow you to correct your balance until you are already in the final
position.
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The strength of the connective tissue needs to be built up slowly. With that said, there is no reason you can't train
every day. You just have to be smart about it
When training every day you need to know when to stop to leave some fuel in the tank for the next day. You can
make tremendous progress this way, but for a lot of people it's hard to know when to stop for that day.
The other option is to do light training in the same elements on your off days. This could include body line work,
bands, cues, proprioception, etc. Stuff that is useful for the training but does not stress your body or CNS much.
Also, on off days you can do a super long warmup and short training to keep the skills in your system.
Ultimately it comes down to knowing your body and listening to its signals.
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Hand balancing on an apparatus entails getting used to the equipment. All equipment has its own idiosyncrasies
and imperfections. It moves a certain way.
The goal is to make the canes an extension of your body. If you do it right, HS on canes should be considerably
easier than floor. Of course it depends on the quality of the canes as well.
Mostly it's just about taking the time to get used to the canes. It took me a while to be able to use canes properly.
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If you know of a gym willing to host and can get the minimum number of people there, I will be happy to come to
DC
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I think that the main goal is longevity. There is no point in going HAM if it just injures you. I completely agree, I see
many people who do only capoeira and are constantly injured. I don't think capoeira is an end all when it comes to
movement, and it should be supplemented with some cross training.
I've actually injures my knees quite a few times just doing basic capoeira movements.
I'm also training capoeira 2-3 times a week right now
If you want to make capoeira your priority, you should be doing it as much as possible. However, you need to
understand the risks it poses and the damage it does to your body. The more you train, the harder you will have to
work to recover.
I am a very big proponent of capoeira combined with some cross training.
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1. Endurance is firstly about finding the least energetically demanding state, then secondly it is about the
mentality to stay up. A lot of the time it is the way the HS is performed that holds back endurance.
However, my favorite exercise to use here is a drop set. Do as long as you can facing away from the wall,
immediately go to the wall and do as long as you can, then continue in a pushup position. All this is without
your hands leaving the floor.
2. There is nothing wrong with an arched handstand, though it's not the most mechanically sound position.
Bent elbows however, I will not accept. This is very important for handstand mechanics and moving on to
more advanced skills. Check my youtube for some elbow exercises.
As far as shoulders go, you have to identify what is causing the tightness. Sometimes it's a psychological
issue of not having the frame of reference to support yourself with open shoulders. I wish it were as simple
as "do this stretch to fix it" but it rarely ever is.
3. The biggest mistake I see is people turning their hips. Try to keep your hips square to the wall
4. Definitely possible, but this is a very high level skill and is incredibly technical. It takes professional hand
balancers years to learn this. Also keep in mind, a OAH is much more difficult to control than a one arm
elbow lever, so that's what you're going to be kicking into. If this is your goal and so far your two arm max
hold is only 40 seconds, you have a lot of work ahead of you.
5. In person, I've seen guys in their late 40s/early 50s do OAH. I've heard of older guys, but cannot confirm.
As long as you are smart about your training and don't break yourself, it's definitely a skill you can do for a
long time.
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For the aerial, sometimes it's just forcing yourself to not put your hands down. Sounds like you are physically
prepared but are not ready to take the next step psychologically. Not enough information to really tell though.
I can't elaborate too much about my training because it changes all the time. It depends on if I'm traveling, have
gigs in Vegas, or have a particular interest I am trying to fulfill.
In general, it's helpful to have one main obsession, then add in the other supplemental disciplines. You can switch
these all out as needed, but it can be very difficult to truly focus on more than one thing.
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I will try to make it as simple as possible, because this can be quite complex. Two steps: 1. Set the shoulder. Make
sure the shoulder is directly over the hand(whether that takes movement or not). Then slowly shift weight over to
that arm maintaining engagement of supporting arm while gently relaxing the free arm.
2. Once the shoulder feels solid, I add a tilt of the body. No side flexion here, that involves breaking the position. I
am not trying to break any lines. The whole body should tilt as one piece. How far to tilt depends on several
factors.
3. The tilt serves to take more weight into the supporting arm, which should remain solid. Once the free arm feels
almost weightless, I bend the elbow and go to fingertips.
4. Making sure the free hand takes no weight, I lift as a develope going from the elbow up to straightening the arm.
The key here is to keep the arm relaxed as you move it to a particular point in space.
Note that during this whole sequence the focus should be on your balance.
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Most hand balancers do zero leg training. Some even go out of their way to not use their legs.
It definitely makes the skills easier.
I've been told by my mentor in aerial arts to stop training my legs.
Really body type is either a blessing or a hindrance but not a barrier. You can make it work But chances are to
reach a high level of hand balancing you will get skinnier legs simply by the time sacrifice required to put in the
hours of training.
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There are many things you can do. One of my favorite wrist rehab/prehab tools is the rice bucket before and after
training.
For something handstand specific, try the Elevated Finger Support found on my youtube.
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I studied physics in College, and I did work in the field of radiation spectroscopy
After getting out into the real world, working for less than a year, I couldn't imagine doing this for the next
40
After my contract was up, I spent the next few years coaching gymnastics for little money, training, and
learning as much as I could about what I was passionate about
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1. Opposition of reaching in opposite directions, but mostly not being able to lean forward enough.
2. Too general of a question. My approach to bodyweight strength training? Do it
3. Again too general of a question. I have several shoulder and wrist protocols, as well as an incredibly
thorough wrist warmup that I cover at my workshops. My suggestion would be to take one to learn it in
person.
4. I have no method, how I train someone depends on their physical and psychological state. I don't have a
set method because I treat students as individuals. Two students working on the same skill at the same
level may get completely opposing instructions depending on their characteristics.
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wspEkEzsZyQ
This is all stuff that I write about often. To hold form in your case, a hands-on correction would be the most helpful.
Building connection with hands and floor is about understanding the general concept of balance as it applies to
your body.
Again, I have put out material on this and it will be covered in great detail in my book and my workshops.
1. Eat food, make gains. My supplementation is very basic, mostly just some protein powder, vitamins, ZMA at
the moment.
It is possibly to build your physique without supplements, it's all how you perceive your gains.
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Generally you should already have some control of a freestanding balance, so a consistent 20-30 seconds is good
to have prior to beginning real press work.
However, you should be working active hip compression way sooner, and you can add in a lot of indirect press
assistance work before actually being ready for presses.
As far as flexibility goes, look up Kit Laughlin's "Master the Pancake" program.
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Do you think some people will never gain the shoulder mobility to achieve a straight handstand? I think I may be part of
that group :(
Is there any point to practicing handstands if you have poor shoulder mobility? Won't you learn it with "bad" form?
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Good and bad form is very subjective, but I think most people can achieve a straight handstand.
You do not need open shoulders to do a "good" handstand.
A friend of mine is a former olympic gymnast, has been performing with cirque for the last 18 years. He has had 7
shoulder surgeries and can't open his shoulders. Does handstands with closed shoulders and an arched back
similar to the old school technique. He is working with what is given.
It's helpful in many ways to have open shoulders, but by no means required.
Keep training handstands anyway
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Hey Yuri. Extremely late to the party but I finally came up with a question! You have a pretty solid planche - as far as
isometric straight arm holds go, what times would you aim for at each stage i.e. tuck, advanced tuck, straddle before
moving on to the next and what 'working set' hold time ranges do you find it most effective to work with? Cheers!
Was nice meeting you in Sydney. You should come around again sometime!
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