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Week 8 Discussion Option A

"The Classical Tradition reborn" Please respond to the following, using sources under the
Explore heading as the basis of your response:
Identify two (2) classical Greek and / or Roman figures or qualities in any work by Michelangelo
or by Raphael. Discuss the primary reasons why popes and other patrons might allow such
trappings of ancient pagan culture within a Christian society, even in sacred contexts. Provide a
rationale for your response. Describe any modern structure or sculpture or work of art where you
can identify either ancient pagan images or features, or a mix of elements from different cultures
and periods.
Explore
Michelangelo and Raphael: The Classical Tradition Reborn
Chapter 15 (pp. 494-5, 505-513), Stylistic features and imagery from ancient classical art and
myth; review Week 8 Music Folder
Sistine Chapel tour at http://smarthistory.khanacademy.org/sistine-chapel-ceiling.html
Sistine Chapel information at http://www.wga.hu/frames-
e.html?/html/m/michelan/3sistina/index.html
Sistine Chapel theory at http://karlzipser.com/michelangelo.html

Week 8 Discussion Option A

"The Classical Tradition reborn" Please respond to the following, using sources under the
Explore heading as the basis of your response:
Identify two (2) classical Greek and / or Roman figures or qualities in any work by Michelangelo
or by Raphael. Discuss the primary reasons why popes and other patrons might allow such
trappings of ancient pagan culture within a Christian society, even in sacred contexts. Provide a
rationale for your response. Describe any modern structure or sculpture or work of art where you
can identify either ancient pagan images or features, or a mix of elements from different cultures
and periods.
Explore
Michelangelo and Raphael: The Classical Tradition Reborn
Chapter 15 (pp. 494-5, 505-513), Stylistic features and imagery from ancient classical art and
myth; review Week 8 Music Folder
Sistine Chapel tour at http://smarthistory.khanacademy.org/sistine-chapel-ceiling.html
Sistine Chapel information at http://www.wga.hu/frames-
e.html?/html/m/michelan/3sistina/index.html
Sistine Chapel theory at http://karlzipser.com/michelangelo.html
LaShanna Morrison
RE: Week 8 Discussion Option A

I have to say one is the Sistine Chapel.This display of art work in itself its magnificient. The
Libyan Sibyl displayed in the massive building is the one that caught my attention. The fact that
the Pope would let a pagan be displayed in the chapel was odd to me at first. But, the fact that
she was a future seer, was used to fortell the story of the coming of Jesus. I think they allowed all
these different types of drawings or intities to depict the grand scale of adversity but to also pay
homage to some of the history that was before them. Even if they themselves didn't believe. I am
still amazed at the fact that they were catholic. The other thing that was beautiful to me was the
Pieta'. I knew it was Mary and Jesus as soon as I say it. I could feel the connection as mother
and son. The way he uses the clay to drape them is marvelous. The first place that comes to
mind rich with culture and versatility is Tokyo. Once certain parts of South Africa was concurred
by vietnamese all of the royal treasures were confiscated. In the Benin City, the images seem to
display some african as well as vientamese ancestory.

LILIA FONTANA INSTRUCTOR MANAGER

RE: Week 8 Discussion Option A
Hi LaShanna,
Since you and I are the only ones to discuss Option A, I would like to add some things regarding
the Sistine Chapel. The Sistine Chapel was commissioned by Pope Julius II. It is also the
cornerstone of high Renaissance art.

Essence Long
RE: Week 8 Discussion Option A

The first painting I would like to speak on is Michelangelo's painting last judgment. I don't
believe during the time of this painting they looked at nude painting the way the world does
now. I am not surprised that it in the Sistine chapel. Breast were simply looked at as
nourishment, as you can see the woman holding onto another one as a symbol of nuturing her. It
is many parts of this painting I could disecet.
The next is the sculpture "tomb of Giuliano de'medici"
The two naked figures were sculpted to represent day and night.
The Roman warrior in the middle has his head turned to face what east supposed to be Lorenzos
tomb. I think what caught my attention so much by this was not so much the figure but the
thought behind it. He didn't make the warrior look anything like Giuliano because he said a
thousand year from now, nobody will know what he looked like" (page 516) he was extremely
wise.

The sculpture I see as similar is the statue of liberty. The statue is said to have originally been
sculpted after Roman pagan goddess liberates. While I have many different on the original
statue I will use this version to show the comparison.
Dahlia Parry
RE: Week 8 Discussion Option A

Michelangelo is widely regarded as the most famous artist

of the Italian Renaissance. Among his works are the
"David" and "Pieta" statues and the Sistine Chapel
frescoes. Two Classical Works of Michelangelo the David
and the Pieta
The David is one of the most-recognized Renaissance
sculptures created by Michelangelo. In 1501
Michelangelo was commissioned to create the David. The
David is depicted patiently waiting for battle, prepped
with the slingshot in one hand and stone in the other. It is
Michelangelo’s projection of a man at his best, who is
healthy, beautiful, wise, and skilled.
http://www.italianrenaissance.org/michelangelos-david/
The Pieta shows the Virgin Mary holding the dead body
of Christ after his crucifixion, death, and removal from
the cross. It was a special work of art even in the
Renaissance because, at the time, multi-figured sculptures
were rare. In 1497, a cardinal named Jean de Bill here’s
commissioned Michelangelo to create a sculpture to go
into a side chapel at Old St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. The
two figures are carved to appear in a unified composition
which forms the shape of a pyramid. It is the only
sculpture that bears Michelangelo's name. Today, you can
visit the statue in New St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome.
http://www.italianrenaissance.org/michelangelos-pieta/

Amy Buamah
RE: Week 8 Discussion Option A
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Michelangelo's David was allowed in a primarily

Christian society because "it's sense of self-contained,
even heroic individualism captures perfectly the humanist
spirit" (Sayre 494),]
The statue was also "a symbol of the city's will to stand
up to all tyrannical rule, including that of the Medici
themselves" (Sayre 494). Also, Michelangelo's painting of
the Sistine Chapel was allowed because it depicted
Genesis and the pairing of opposites.

St. John the Divine Cathedral in New York City, New

York has many pagan images, such as the relief at the top
of the cathedral entrance. This relief depicts New York
City as "Babylon the Great" which was destroyed by the
hand of God in the Book of Revelation.

Sayre, Henry M. The Humanities: Culture, Continuity and

Change, Volume I, 3rd Edition. Pearson Learning
Solutions, 08/2014. VitalBook file.