Painting in dry dock

What paint makers forget to mention and why yards seldom care

CET-Hamburg GmbH

B. Fleischer – 04.03.2014
 Who is CET
 Dock broker, Yard network > 60 yards
 Services for owners which are dock/repair related
(Paint / Divers / Engine overhaul / Metaline)

 Paint Advice and Paint Superintendent service

 Background:
 Dry Dock SI, Yard production manager and special paint school
 Most of paint inspectors are not Paint SI
 Development Supervisors to Paint SI (budget/option/time)

 A/F & paint quality more important on fuel consumption

 No blame game
 Specific details in direct talks
 Paint maker situation

Yard situation

Result for owner

 Paint maker situation

 Similar products, very tough competition

 Very difficult to sell „red antifouling“
 Performance difference may not visible (yard/service)
 Price driven market

 Earns money by selling paint – not giving advice

 Paint rep. decisions are guided by company‘s need to earn money

 Huge knowledge advantage – products and competition

 Most of the time present by paint representative together with yards
Yard situation

 No consequences, little proof, long time span of work

 Earn money means - Little effort, little cost, good price
 Standard work – no extras (low skilled labour)
 No training, learning by doing (basics wrong)
 Cheap equipment/low maintenance (nozzle diameter)

 Knowledge advantage
 Always present during all works
 Paint maker cooperation forced
 yard is client of paint maker
 Long term stay – „troublemakers“ kicked out
17 B80 – 0,017“ >> 0,43mm
 Relation Yard – Owner – Paint maker
 Paint maker – earn money
 Yard – earn money
 Owner – spend no money

 Knowledge
 Paint maker - good
 Yard - good
 Owner - limited

 Owner budget
 Material – high (25% owner budget)
 Application – high (10% owner budget)
 Final result and consequences – high for owner
 Summary:
 Yard and Paint maker : Both earn money, both have knowledge,
both have close relation

 Owner : spend money, limited knowledge, one-off to maker/yard

 Result:
 Painting is Maker/Yard driven
 Quality low
 Value for money low
 Knowledge imbalance against owner
Influence maker/yard - practical points

 SA1 versus hull washing

 CDP vs SPC vs Silyl

 Existing coating vs new

 DFT checks
 Thinner vs proper paint

 Flash rust vs re-blast

SA1 vs. hull washing
SA1 versus hull washing

 Loose paint, broken edges, barnicle base pates

 Std solution – Sweep the surface (SA1)
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012SA1 - cases
 SA1 - Results
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012SA1 - Details
 SA1 – good results
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012

 Very few yards capable – fine grid, angled sweep,

different colurs of paint layers (50 to 150µm)
 Reality – between untouched and bare metal
 SA1 -
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012 after wash
Strategy according
SA1 – NotBusiness
100% coatedPlan 12/2012

Owners problem !
Strategy according Business
SA1 – full coat required Plan 12/2012

Yards – blasting
Paint maker – paint material
Owner – best result ???

Blast + wash/blow
+ paint (2x) + material
Cheaper ?
 SA1 – Increased roughness
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012

Owners problem !
SA1 – Low friction A/F ???
 SA1 – Wash & Scrape

Wash – cheap; no extra paint;

intact system > Owners benefit
 No corrosion
Cheap wash
No extra time
Little risk
> Owner‘s choice !
SA1 versus hull washing

 Main goal: Preserve intact paint systems !!!

 Alternative to SA1 – 70% better choice

 Wash & scrape or grinding & scrape
 HP wash 300 to 700 bar close up
 Spot blast SA1 ~ Full blast SA2
 If SA1
 Overcoat SA 1 for 100% surface
 Wash after blast whenever possible
 Accept roughness
 Consider cost prior start
blast/wash/paint/labour
 Consider yard skill
 CDP vs SPC vs Silyl
Self polishing Antifouling
Self-polishing paint is UNDEFINED

Principle:
 Remove coating to reveal new poison
 Very good performing TBT, bad environmental impact - banned 2003
 Follow-up paint now on same level

 Different thickness of leached layer (remaining paint Grid)

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Leached layer

 Always there
 Brittle when dry
 Breaks of when thick

 CDP

 SPC

Silyl SPC

Pictures by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

 CDP – controlled depletion polymer
 Hydrating / Rosin / basic / all-purpose / 10 to 20 USD
 Thick leached layer > 100µm
 Brittle, cracks

 SPC – self polishing co-depletion polymer

 Advertising: Hydrolisys / advanced / High performance / 15 to 30 USD
 Average leached layer 30 – 100µm

 Silyl SPC – like SPC but base is silyl polymer

 Advertising: Ultra / mega / low friction / 25 to 50++ USD
 Thin leached layer < 10 - 50µm

Picture by International
Paint/Yachtpaint website
 SPC based on copper acrylate

CDP hybrid
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012

Good !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Average !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

 Good !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Average !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Good !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Average !

Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

 Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website

Excessive Thickness in overlap VS/FB

Recoating over full A/F layers
Picture by International Paint/Yachtpaint website
Washing is MOST important dock job
Silyl based

 Very thin layer, very smooth

 Increased polishing over time
 Pay attention to thickness

 Combined with water trap

 Water-poison mix on hull

 Performance indication great

 Final understanding in 1 to 3 years
Summary:

 Self-polishing paint is UNDEFINED

 CDP – thick LL
 SPC – medium LL
 Silyl SPC – thin LL

 Price defines quality as base material is expensive

 Especially for Silyl be careful with cheap offers
 only two Japanese makers of raw material !
 Be careful with combined systems SPC /CDP

Good !
CDP vs SPC vs Silyl – Self polishing Antifouling

 Use paint according budget and purpose

 North sea ice – Silyl doubtful
 Africa – CDP doubtful

 Budget for cleaning between docking

 CDP often, strong brushes
 SPC less often, soft brushes

 Prepare dock according paint used

 Evaluate performace
 Adjust paint scheme to vessel By UMC Intl.

By UMC Intl.
 HP washing ist MOST important

 Owner to get independent knowledge

for correct decision
Existing coating vs New Coating
 Check existing system, especially 5Y & 10Y vessels
 Check remaining DFT of A/F
Strategy according Business Plan 12/2012
Docking condition – perfect A/F
Adjust scheme
> check DFT A/F
> check condition
> Adjust coats & DFT
> thick paint cracks

Adjust scheme
> strong maker resistance
> strong yard resistance
> only owner is driver
Existing coating vs New

 applied system Silyl based with very good performance

 New paint stuck in costums (West Africa)
 New maker with CDP based coating (local supply)
 Adjust thickness & coats
 Make sure to polish off prior next docking
 Tie coat not applied (as instructed by paint rep.)

New maker Adjust scheme

> blast / use sealer > strong maker resistance
ruins previous A/F > new maker wants so sell
> next dock likely full blast > only owner is driver
Existing coating vs New

 Check existing system, especially 5Y & 10Y vessels

& remaining DFT of A/F

 Keep existing A/F when proper

 Maker may insist on new coating – „exception report“
 Maker looses big money, hence pressure is high

 Too thick paint cracks >> up to total failure possible

 Paint maker A onto maker B
 very seldom full blasting required
 Products similar (not equal !)
 New maker plays safe – blame on old maker

 Adjust scheme to actual condition

 Coating number
 Coating thickness
 Sequence ( e.g. T/U omission)

 ONLY OWNER IS DRIVER

DFT & Thinner
DFT Checks

 Most important on A/C

 A/C needs minimum 180µm DRY to do job

 Equal distribution important
A/C needs 180µm DRY to do job
Low DFT of A/C very common
Proper painting needs proper blasting !
 Painting always difficult with „wild“ blasting
 Proper „shape“ of blasting allows proper painting
Intact paint destroyed by overblasting
Painting follows blasting !
 Proper „shape“ of blasting allows proper painting & proper checks
 Check multiple spots in bad areas
 Check motivates shipyard to work proper – communicate before
 Check by paint maker (local) unreliable – SY relation
 Check surface condition e.g. grit inclusion

 Paint single event – check always – also good yards

Summary:
 Owner drives checks
 Early info to yard > better quality
 Good blast > good paint

 Owner suffers alone

 No a/c paint guarantee
 Yard long gone
 Who is responsible ??
Thinner vs Corrosion

 Paint thickness depending on solid paint particles in liquid

 Thinning paint for pump operation

& easy handling & easy spray

 Paint maker sells thinner

 Paint maker fed up to fight (even owner paid paint rep.)
 Bad pumps
 Cheap guns
 Cheap nozzles
Thinner result:
 Low DFT & Rust
 Paint „disappears“ from dock
 Thinner entrapment
 Increased cost

Owner to do:
 Check thinner
 check DFT always
 require re-coat on SY expense
Re-blast vs Flashrust
 Problem huge in Asia or warm climate countries

 Much less in North Europe

 Paint Maker „play dumb“

 Finish 1st Blast
Initial Maker A

New maker B required full blast

Re-blast
 Shipyard – blasting
Paint maker – tolerate / 100% Qlty
Owner – pay time & blast/bad quality

T/U condition – no wash „possible“

1st Coat

Partial 2nd Reblast

 Washing day 1– 06:30

Wash & flashrust system

Blasting Day 1 – 09:30

Docking 22:00
Rain – HP Wash – Day 1– 15:45

1st Coat – Day 2. – 08:30

 Undocking Day 4

T/U – Day 2– 14:00

Wash in rain
Coat on flash rust
Flash rust overcoating
Yellow & dry
Summary:
 Flash rust overcoating is possible with nearly all makers
 Waterblast approved paint is suitable

 Unpopular unless hydroblasting „country“

 Even then > wash handled different

 SY do earn money with reblast

 SY do earn money with dock stay
 Paint maker is 100% safe with reblasting
 Paint maker does not harm yard

 99% no re-blast requrired

 Do FW HP re-wash 200 bar –
double effect of clean surface
and flash rust removal

 Safe money !
 Blast 5 to 10x more expensive

 Can be done in rain ! – safe time

 Only OWNER is the driver !

Summary

 Acknowledge dock interests of maker & yard

 Compensate the missing knowledge

 Clarify the required paint

 Adjust to actual situation

Summary

 Check, check & check (e.g. DFT/Thinner)

 Use alternative methods

 Avoid SA1
 Use HP-Wash
 Use Flashrust
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