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July 8 at 8:04 PM ·

I am quite literally dumbfounded at how profoundly God has spoken to my current situation through
this video.

Believing the the Lord Jesus Christ is not a trinity, and that He has sent Victor Hafichuk as His prophet to
declare the day of the Lord has led to some....shall I say opposition. I have not welcomed it as I should. I
have not rejoiced in the victory the Lord has already given to those who stand on Him and believe in
Him; calling those who come in His name blessed as we take their word not as that from man but as the
word of God.

Though Ted Cruz speaks of political ideology here; the spiritual truth cannot be ignored for those who
seek after God. When opposition presents itself; shuddering and recoiling are not the responses of the
righteous; but the cowardly who don't believe in their God. I am ashamed that I have been that coward
and know that by the grace of God my fruits of repentance will be shown.

May Jesus Christ be glorified, praised, and honored forevermore. Amen.

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Mirta Carpenter I agree different views should be presented but logical reasoning cannot be thrown out
the window. Scriptural analyses should be taken seriously as souls are at stake.
Mirta Carpenter The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit together and distinctly are the Triune God. The
TPOT articles do not dispel that fact.

Brian McDonald Together and "distinctly". If each one are distinctly 3 gods. That is to say that
each are the father, the son and the holy spirit... That makes them 3 gods
each...so lets see..3x3..that makes 9 gods in all.

Dennis-Kim Stevenson Nicholas Carpenter. I'm curious; How in your view is Genesis 1:26 to be
understood? "Then God said, “Let -Us- make man in -Our- image, according to -Our- likeness; and let
them rule over the fish of the....” Just in your own words please.

Gabe Real Graces "For I Testify Unto Every man that Heareth The Words Of The Prophecy Of This Book,
If any man shall add unto these things, EL ELYON Shall Add Unto him The Plagues That Are Written In
This Book:" The Holy Bible
Revelation 22:18 KJV

Dennis-Kim Stevenson I'm curious, how did you mean Rev. 22-18 to relate to this thread?

Michael Mercy Mercier Looks like Nicholas Carpenterdeleted my response. I do not know why
exactly. You would have to ask him. I said, JESUS IS THE PROPHET. JESUS IS MY PROPHET. "YOU
NEED NO ONE INSTRUCT YOU, BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD AND GUIDE YOU INTO ALL
TRUTH." THE HOLY BIBLE

Victor Hafichuk Michael Mercy Mercier you have nothing whatsoever to do with the Lord Jesus
Christ and He certainly doesn't know you. You worship another Jesus. I know these things by
none other than Him.

Victor Hafichuk So the plagues will be added to you and your portion of life removed for your
blasphemies, all you who blaspheme and foam out of your mouths your shame and display your
nakedness publicly. Woe to you.
 Nicholas Carpenter, will you faint or stand? Whom do you trust? Man or God? That's what it
boils down to. I don't write these things now to strive over you with these hyenas. I speak to
condemn them publicly, your mother, with them - they're all guilty as sin.

Michael Mercy Mercier Victor Hafichuk You are a false prophet. You are a wolf in sheep's
clothing. "Leave MY People Alone!" Thus Says THE LORD EL ELYON. Can You Be Free?

Michael Mercy Mercier Victor Hafichuk you have the spirit of the anti-christ and your pride will
take you to HELL FOREVER

Michael Mercy Mercier YAHSHUA MESSIAH IS THE ONE LORD AND THE ONE
SAVIOUR NicholasCarpenter's LORD AND SAVIOUR And My LORD AND OUR SAVIOUR TOO

Michael Mercy Mercier Who are you?

Michael Mercy Mercier Victor Hafichuk Who are you and what spirit is in you and what is your
goal? Do you sin?

Gabe Real Graces OUCH!

Mirta Carpenter Seeing God as He reveals Himself in the Bible is not adding to the Word. Adding books
to the Bible that are not from God is what this verse reveals. “I warn everyone who hears the words of
the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this
book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his
share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.”
Revelation 22:18-19 ESV http://bible.com/59/rev.22.18-19.esv

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Revelation 22:18-19 ESV; I warn everyone who hears the words of…
 Dennis-Kim Stevenson I've wondered about that passage, but haven't spent much time studying
it. At first glance it seems that Revelation was written before the books of the Bible were
brought together to be the Bible as we know it. Not sure then how it can be understood to
mean "adding books to the Bible". (Nor does it say book”s”.) Rather it seems to be referencing
the book of Revelation itself.

Michael Mercy Mercier Revelation 22:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his
part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in This Book."
The Holy Bible

Michael Richardson God is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, God has revealed much
through Scripture. Here are some things we definitively know from Scripture.

1) God is One.
2) The Father is God.
3) Jesus is God.
4) The Holy Spirit is God.
5) Jesus is not the Father.
6) Jesus is not the Holy Spirit.
7) The Father is not the Holy Spirit.

How can we reconcile these 7 true statements with each other without violating the law of non-
contradiction which states “A cannot be both A and non-A at the same time and in the same
relationship”?

It took our early church fathers centuries of study and debate the concept of the Trinity as we
understand it now. It eliminates the 3 most frequent and recurring heresies in the church.
One, that Jesus is not truly God (or some variation thereof).
Two, that Jesus was not truly human.
Three, that Jesus IS the Father AND the Holy Spirit.

Quite simple, God is One is essence and three in Persons. These are not a contradictions. They refer to
different aspects of the nature of God.

This video will illustrate it in a comedic way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw
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Mirta Carpenter Thank you Michael Richardson. You are a blessing to this Christian family.

Sabine Smit Michael Richardson you say "it took our early church fathers centuries of study and
debate the concept of the Trinity as we understand it now." The Lord promises a whole other
view on this, He says: "“And you will know the truth, and that truth will set you free.” and John
testified to this: "They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged
to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them
belonged to us. You, however, you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know
the truth. I have not written you because you lack knowledge of the truth, but because you have
it, and because no lie comes from the truth.…". The fact that they needed centuries to study and
debate says it all, don't you think. And those you call "our early church fathers" the bible has this
to say about that: "And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is
in heaven."

Michael Vavases Michael,

The video you shared says much about where you’re coming from. We can debate the trinity
until we’re blue in the face, but the trinity isn’t the real issue here. The issue here is your total
lack of reverence for the Lord Jesus Christ.

That video was vile from beginning to end. Do you find the testimony of Jesus Christ to be
content appropriate for comedy? Can you imagine the Lord joking about stabbing people in the
face when they failed to understand one of His teachings? Does that strike you as Godly
behavior?

If you knew Him at all, you wouldn’t dare share such a video. That’s what the trinity is really all
about, the denial of Jesus Christ. You deny the Father the glory He achieved as His Son, and in
effect spit on the cross. That’s what you’re doing.
 Everything others have shared with you here clearly reveals the truth of the matter, that Jesus
Christ is FULLY God, but you can’t see it because you’re blinded by your self-righteousness. You
need to repent, and that’s the bottom line.

Darrell Kane Michael Vavases ,Amen! We have all these diabolical doctrines because man is
operating through the tree of knowledge

Nicholas Carpenter Here is what I have as the Lord has given it to me.

Firstly; I'd like to bring attention to Isaiah 9:6

Isaiah 9:6 Amplified Bible (AMP)
6
For to us a Child shall be born, to us a Son shall be given;
And the government shall be upon His shoulder,
And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Here we can see that Scripture testifies to Jesus Christ being called the Everlasting Father and the
Wonderful Counselor. How could he be called these things in truth unless He is those things.

Next there is John 16:7

John 16:7 Amplified Bible (AMP)

7 But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the [a]Helper
(Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor—Counselor, Strengthener, Standby) will not come to you; but if I go, I
will send Him (the Holy Spirit) to you [to be in close fellowship with you].

In the first verse we see that the Son is called the Counselor; and yet He says that He must go away so
the Counselor can be sent. (depending on translation its direct) Here we can see the Lord saying He is
going to send Himself; but before I go in to speculation; 1 more verse that brings clarity to how Jesus
Christ is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 43:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)

11
“I, [only] I, am the Lord,
And there is no Savior besides Me.

The Lord in OT is translated to Yahweh; otherwise known as God the Father. Now since God is the
Savior; and scripture clearly states that Jesus Christ is the Savior/Messiah,
Luke 2:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 For this day in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord (the
Messiah).

Can it not be said and is it not in fact given testimony in the Scriptures the Jesus Christ is the Father and
the Holy Spirit? Where however is it said the Christ is separate from the Father or the Holy Spirit. You
will not find such a verse, the opposite is stated.

Matthew 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been [a]betrothed to
Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by [the power of] the Holy Spirit.

John 10:30 KJV

30 I and the Father are One.

By this last statement that Jesus made; if we are to accept it by faith and not carnal reasoning; we know
that anyone who saw Jesus at any point saw God; and how true is it that God shows himself to us so
many times yet goes unnoticed for a time.

Before understanding Jesus Christ as God; we must humble ourselves take away this lens of the trinity as
it clouds out reality with man-made reasoning to trump out God given understanding about who He is.
"We cannot understand the trinity" is said to me quite often; how much less can the carnal mind
understand that Jesus Christ is the Father and the Holy Spirit; not separate. Scripture testifies to this
truth doesn't it?

Michael Richardson
I do not know where the law of non contradiction comes from; but scripture has plenty of apparent
contradiction within it when we aren't given understanding.

God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son; then saying such a thing never crossed his mind is one example.

Jeremiah 32:34-36 English Standard Version (ESV)

34 They set up their abominations in the house that is called by my name, to defile it. 35 They built the
high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech,
though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to
cause Judah to sin.

Another is when the Lord calls Job perfect and then sends Satan to inflict terrible things upon Him.

Job 1:1 King James Version (KJV)

1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and
one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

With faith these apparent contradictions are explained; but only as God gives it.
Dennis-Kim Stevenson
Genesis 1:26-27 JPS
(26) And God said: “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over
the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over
every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”
(27) And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female
created He them.

Why “Us” and “Our” in verse 26, since God is singular in verse 27, it saying “He,” not “They”?

To begin, God was not alone:

Job 38:4-7 MKJV

(4) Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell if you have understanding!
(5) Who has set its measurements, if you know? Or who has stretched the line on it?
(6) On what are its bases sunk, or who cast its cornerstone,
(7) when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Genesis 3:22-24 JPS

(22) And the LORD God said: “Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil; and now,
lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever.”
(23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he
was taken.
(24) So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the Garden of Eden the cherubim, and the
flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way to the Tree of Life.

He was speaking with the cherubim, describing the situation and their mission.

Note the end of Job 38:7

The sons (plural) of God shouted for joy when the Earth was created. We are given authority or power
(depending on translation) to becomes sons of the living God.

John 1:12 King James Version (KJV)

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that
believe on his name:

I leave you all, Mirta Carpenterr and Gabe Real Graces/Michael Mercy Mercierl Mercy Mercier included,
with a section of thepathoftruth.com that will provide ample evidence that Jesus Christ is God; and not 3
separate persons. Along with a site with Scripture stating this.

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teach.../jesusisgod/index.htm

http://mit.irr.org/28-biblical-passages-which-explicitly...
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The Path of Truth

Michael Richardson I would encourage you to read the full text of the Athanasian Creed. This
has been the position of historic Christianity. I believe you are not clear as to what those who
hold trinitarians actually believe.

https://www.crcna.org/wel.../beliefs/creeds/athanasian-creed

CRCNA.ORG

Athanasian Creed

Michael Richardson The examples you gave are not contradictions. To be a contraction,
variations in relationships must also be considered.

For example, Eddie is my son. Eddie is my father-in-law.

Is that a contradiction? Appears so, until we recognize that I am speaking two different
individuals.

It would take longer and a different format to thoroughly outline the misconceptions that lead
to the erroneous conclusion that Scripture contains contradictions. We can talk about it
sometime.
Nicholas Carpenter Michael Richardson The one thing I didn't see in the link is that Jesus Christ
is the Father as well as the Holy Spirit; definitely not separated into a trinity/different persons.
All are the same name for the God that spoke in Deut 6:4. He is one, not 3.

Michael Richardson Consider 2 Corinthians 1:20-22

“For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our
Amen to God for his glory. And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed
us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.”

Clearly, Paul is revering to three distinct Persons.

Also consider Jesus’ baptism. The Father was present as a voice. Jesus was present as a man.
The Spirit was present as a dove.

Finally, look at Jesus’ command to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That
wouldn’t make since if they were the same.

Both practically and linguistically, they cannot be the same. John 15 also supports this.

Nicholas Carpenter Michael Richardson

The point I'm making has as little to do with separation into a trinity; rather it has almost
entirely to do with how scripture puts it plainly that there is only One God.
In 2 Corinthians 1:20-22; can it not be said that it is God within us that leads us through our
prayers so that they might be answered by Him; considering that the carnal man is at enmity
with Him and doesn't know how to pray to the Lord in a way that is pleasing; this happens to be
the reality. He does everything; which is why only he can rightfully be given glory.

Scripture shows how Jesus Christ is God the Father; so it is God who establishes us through
himself; just as he raised himself from the dead.

God manifests himself in different ways at the same time. The baptism of Christ is similar to
when He went with the angels down to Sodom whilst with Abraham.

The name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is Jesus. One name under heaven by which
we are saved. The name of God.

Darrell Kane Michael Richardson ,you are operating from the tree of knowledge
Nicholas Carpenter Michael Preston Michael Vavases Paul BeilerVictor Hafichuk Terri Cabreros Law
Wren Sabine Smit Martin VanPopta Stephen Beiler
Anything you guys would like to add? I forget a few other names to tag as well if I could get some help
with that.

Paul Beiler Amen Nicholas Carpenter

Stephen Beiler Amen Nicholas Carpenter, I believe you have given ample Truth here, seeing
eyes and hearing ears and receiving hearts will receive by Faith,as The Lord reveals.

Alan Agnew I think you’re right in large part. I recall Victor saying we were present when the
world was created, hence us shouting for joy then.

As for the Trinity, it did not save me.

Understanding that God manifests in many forms at the same time is much better, in my
experience.

Alan Agnew Braden Preston, Isaiah Dillard, and Brandon LaBerteaux, maybe you guys have
something to say about Nick’s comments in this post?

Law Wren Nicholas, I had a reply from this morning that I neglected to post, I'm thankful that
you called us out.

Braden Preston Nicholas Carpenter, you've covered all the bases. If not directly, then through
the papers you referenced. If anyone cares to know, then they will be given ears from the Father
to pick up those papers, listen, and hear the reasoning they contain.

Braden Preston People always lose it when one speaking the truth, denies the trinity doctrine. If
one thinks that Jesus Christ is having conversations with the Father, as if the Father is a separate
entity that can be spoken with, then that person believes in three gods, not one. You find that
person in contradiction if they believe that three entities, with different attributes, characters,
etc, are suddenly now a single god.
If they believe that Jesus Christ is a singular god, who has manifested Himself to mankind in
three different ways, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, then you are in agreement with us,
and with the Scriptures that testify of such. Simple people have been indoctrinated for a long
time now by the religious, to believe that His manifestations are separate entities, though they
try to wrap it up as a singular, "triune" god.

The idea for a trinity originated after 325.A.D. after the Council of Nicea. Prior to the
establishment of the Roman Catholic church, true professing Christians knew that Jesus Christ
was the Father on this earth. They also knew that the Spirit was Jesus, having made His Abode in
their own flesh. They had the testimony of the blood, water, and Spirit. Ancient historians quote
Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7-8 without the trinitarian additions, presumably done by the
Catholics after they came to power. So Catholics, Protestants, JW's, all got their doctrine from
those deliberately edited manuscripts, which even by secular historians is proven to be false
additions.

Nicholas Carpenter Braden Preston Might I ask for the proofs of these scriptures being
manhandled? While I was aware of the 1 john 5:7-8 being added to I was not aware of the same
for Matthew 28:19.

Nicholas Carpenter Braden Preston Plus if historians have proven these verses have been added
to then there really is far less argument for the trinity than most claim to have.
Also it would be a massive blow against those who say that the bible is infallible.

Braden Preston "Also it would be a massive blow against those who say that the bible is
infallible."

Nicholas Carpenter, that's right, though I feel the need to clarify your statement. That point
being: that the Bible was infallible, when it was originally written by Paul, Peter, etc. I don't have
any doubt of that. However, we don't have the originals anymore. The problem is, after copyists
had the unblemished copies, there were some natural, honest mistakes that they made; like
some of the gospel writers seeing double, or a growing number of grammatical errors.
Thankfully, not very concerning.

The area that is concerning is when there are deliberate modifications. In the copies of the
manuscripts that we have, they are pretty consistent with each other until after 300.A.D. That is
when you start to find changes that affect doctrine. Those maligned copies were eventually
passed down in Vulgate Latin and then translated into English for the KJV and other translations
at the time. A lot of doctrine for these modern-day 'churches' was formed from those
manuscripts, some of which, the earliest dating is 600 years after the Ressurection. A lot of
accidental and deliberate translation error can happen in that long period of time.

As for Matthew 28:19, you have several ancient historians who quoted the book of Matthew in
their works in and around 300A.D. You have Esubius, Hermas, and Aphrahat, that all quoted the
verse while they were alive. They quoted it like this:

"Go, and make disciples of all nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you."

After 325.A.D, the manuscripts have the verse quoted as this:

"Go, and make disciples of all nations in [the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghost], teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you."

There are a few resources out there. Here is one that I found is in agreement:

http://www.biblebookprofiler.com/The_Forgery_of_Matthew...

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Michael Preston Braden Preston I particularly like this reasoning: "Many, many times, Christians
will take the very few apparently contradictory verses on a given subject and build an entire
doctrine on them, ignoring the vast majority of simple, clear and logical verses." from the link
you gave.

Braden Preston Michael Preston, yeah. We see that all the time on verses about judging, about
love, about law, about grace, etc.

Victor Hafichuk Nicholas Carpenter, our teachings from the Scriptures answer these matters.
The important thing is that you put your trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, not Victor, not doctrine,
not creeds, not man, not churches, not blowhard preachers who strut themselves here while
foaming at the mouth as does "Michael Mercy Mercier."
 He is a fellow looking for fame and fortune, someone who has no love whatsoever for the Lord
Jesus Christ.

These people who contend with you haven't a clue Who God is or what He has to say, they don't
have a clue what I have to say, though they assume otherwise, and they don't care. They just
don't care. These people are insincere; they are actors, hypocrites, liars, thieves, of their father
the Devil.

Pay no attention to them. They will not read what you offer them because they love other gods;
they are idolaters, serpents. See to yourself. Take heed to your own soul; that is your prime duty
now. Believe, Nicholas Carpenter, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

That goes for Michael Preston, Law Wren, Alan Agnew, Stephen Beiler, Braden Preston, and
perhaps others.

I have laid a trap here for the predators; watch for it.

Law Wren Mirta Carpenter, your logic and your reasoning and your scriptural analysis are what the Lord
refers to as leaning on your own understanding. You and Dennis-Kim Stevenson cannot agree on what
“adding” to Scripture means because you are not of one accord and you cannot be of one accord
because your are at enmity with The One who gives eyes to see and ears to hear. You may as well line
up with the "church fathers" Michael Richardsonreferenced, and settle in for the long haul.

Why are these things difficult for you to comprehend? You say “seeing God as He reveals Himself in the
Bible is not adding to the Word.” You have already missed Him, Mirta, because seeing Him is what’s
required, Him revealing Himself is what is necessary, for the bible to be of any benefit to you. The Word,
Jesus Christ Himself, is not your bible and without Him your bible does you no good. You’ll say, “I have
Him!”. Do you have the mind of Christ? If you did, these things would be revealed to you by His Spirit. As
it is you debate simple realities and spin them in the direction you have been led to walk in by men who
neither enter the kingdom nor allow you to enter. The exchanges you have in this thread of comments
demonstrates it. Michael Richardson comes along and spouts off, offering illustrations, multiple points
about human capacity and God's nature, a great 7 point list, as though he himself knows better than The
One who Created the universe and his own limited capacity for understanding. So much garbage! The
Lord does not applaud Michael Richardson, but you do, and follow him, no less. The blind leading the
blind, straight off a cliff.

Do you have access to the materials Nicholas has cited? Are you willing to read? More importantly, are
you willing to be wrong, at the expense of your understanding, for the sake of Christ? The evidence you
present points to "No."

You sit here and try to wrap your heads around spiritual things and the Lord is rapping you on the head
telling you these things are only discerned by the Spirit. Humble yourself before Him and He will show
you favor, continue in pride, resisting Him and He will resist you.

Michael Richardson Understanding Scripture isn’t “leaning on your own understanding, it is

“rightly dividing the Word of Truth.”

If someone is unable or unwilling to recognize that God has given people to the church to help
people understand His Word, it is that person that is leaning on their own understanding.

Nick isn’t getting his questions from the Bible. A main, who has ascribed to himself prophecies
rightly applied to Christ, has inserted those questions.

Law Wren Michael Richardson so glad you made that reference. Willing to rightly divide the
word of Truth spoken here?:

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/.../rightly-dividing-the...

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Michael Richardson There is so much I cannot begin to address all the problems in this article. I
will restrict myself to one.

He says “I haven’t found anyone independent of me, agreeing with me, not one.” Jesus said that
He would build his church and the gates of hell wouldn’t prevail. If he is correct that the
Scriptures were perverted in 325 in Constantinople and only he can provide clarification for the
true meaning of Scripture, then Jesus is a liar since the gates of hell in fact prevailed for 1900+
years.

Law Wren Michael Richardson, you are correct in stating that the Lord has appointed some to
teach those who are being saved but you contradict yourself when you deny the man whom
God appointed to lead, of whom He prophesied in the Scripture. Who appointed you to teach?
Do you know? Has He made it plain to you? Or will you be surprised to find that the Scripture
speaks of you too when He declares
"And then I will say to them 'I never knew you. Depart from me, those working lawlessness!'"

Michael Richardson So, unless I accept Victor Hafichuk as my Lord and Savior, I’m doomed to
hell? I follow the teachings of leaders whose teaching are consistent with Scripture. Victor may
call that idolatry, but those who follow him have, in fact, idolized a man over the Word of God.

Law Wren Michael, you read like someone casually flipping through a trash tabloid. There is a
meal available for you and you pick up a grain of rice and run from the table calling it poison. Sit
down. Do you earnestly desire understanding? Ask the Lord and He will not withhold it.

Victor isn't the one providing clarification. Victor doesn't illuminate the Scriptures, nowhere
does Victor make the claims that you've just made. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ makes all
these things clear. He is The One who gives eyes to see and ears to hear, He speaks as He always
has. The Lord Jesus Christ, in His dominion as Lord and in His merciful work as Savior, subdues
our wicked hearts and cleanses us of all unrighteousness, making His dwelling place in us. Does
He not say He will do this all throughout the Scripture? When Victor or any of His children
coming in His Name, being One with Him, speak His words as He gives them to speak, do they
blaspheme? You make God a liar. His purpose for coming was to destroy the works of the devil,
reconciling all of creation back to Himself. Would you have us be corrupt and flawed when He is
incorruptible and flawless. But I tell you, this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this
mortal must put on immortality.

Yes Michael you follow the teachings of leaders, we follow the leading of God. those are the
only two paths and yours leads to death. Choose this day whom you will serve. But as for me
and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Michael Preston Michael Richardson

You say:
"There is so much I cannot begin to address all the problems in this article. I will restrict myself
to one."

"He [Victor] says “I haven’t found anyone independent of me, agreeing with me, not one.”"

Victor was speaking of the parable of Lazarus, not a general statement of disagreement. Read
first what we give you, then respond if you will.

Law Wren Amen, Michael.

Michael Preston Michael Richardson Another thought. If there's so much to tell us, why hold
back? Aren't we in need of saving if you have all the answers and can provide them? Whereas
we freely give what we have been shown by the Lord to give to whomever will hear. Curious,
isn't it?

Sabine Smit Michael Richardson you say "it took our early church fathers centuries of study and
debate the concept of the Trinity as we understand it now." It seems you also say that you
follow their teachings. The Lord promises a whole other view on this, He says: "“And you will
know the truth, and that truth will set you free.” and John testified to this: "They went out from
us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with
us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us. You, however, you have
an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I have not written you because
you lack knowledge of the truth, but because you have it, and because no lie comes from the
truth.…". The fact that they needed centuries to study and debate says it all, don't you think.
And those you call "our early church fathers" the bible has this to say about that: "And do not
call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."

Michael Richardson I work 2 jobs and have a family. I am willing to and have sat down with Nick
whenever he is interested is speaking on spiritual matters. Debating theological distinctions on
Facebook isn’t an effective medium for an honest discussion of the facts. I don’t know anyone
who read a Facebook comment and changed their world view.

Law Wren Come off it, Michael Richardson. A conversation is a conversation, in writing or in
person, and the Lord has chosen to speak to you in the Facebook comments, in the articles
we’ve shared with you, through those who are united with Him, right here on the internet.
Nicholas himself has chosen to speak here, yet you continue to single him out like he’s some
misguided altar boy who needs your coaching to get him back into the fetid fold. What will
getting him alone, in private, accomplish? Could you wrest a lamb from the arms of its
Shepherd? Likely you think so. We have more confidence in Him.

What of your confidence in your “arguments”? I use that word because you say this is a debate
and approach the King of kings like you have winning points, though you’ve lost already. You
have appointed yourself as both a teacher and an apologist. I assure you, the Lord didn’t come
here to debate, but you go on, debunk His doctrine publicly, give us the keys of life. Isn’t that
what you’re offering Nicholas? Enlighten the rest of us!

In truth, your intention is to toe the line and get Nicholas to fall in line. But the Lord has come to
 tell you your three gods won’t save you, neither will your two jobs, and you lead your family
down the one broad path to destruction. Turn around. You say “I don’t know anyone who read a
Facebook comment and changed their worldview.” Michael, the sum total of what you’ve never
seen would overflow the universe, and He has. Face Him before you presume to speak on
spiritual matters, with Nicholas or anyone. It will go better for you and them in the long run.

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/.../i-do-not-want-to-argue...

THEPATHOFTRUTH.COM

"I Don't Want to Argue"

Michael Preston Sabine Smit Amen!

Nicholas Carpenter Should've done this before but most the response to you Dennis-Kim Stevenson in
my first comment is from a paper from TPOT.

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/.../asininity-of-the...

THEPATHOFTRUTH.COM

The Asininity of the Trinity

Dennis-Kim Stevenson I figured that was coming. That’s why I asked for you to share in your
own words.
 Michael Preston Dennis-Kim Stevenson "I figured that was coming". Did you read it all the way
through?

Victor Hafichuk Dennis-Kim Stevenson do you use your own words or those of the so-called
"church fathers," those wolves Paul and Peter warned their flocks would come when they
departed to be with the Lord?

"For I know this, that after my departure grievous wolves shall enter in among you, not sparing
the flock" (Acts 20:29 MKJV).

"But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers
among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought
them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their pernicious ways, and
because of them the way of truth will be evil spoken of" (2 Peter 2:1-2 MKJV).

Augustine, for example, a prince among wolves, most ravenous.

Wise in your own eyes, spreading lies, the Truth you despise, to your demise.

Michael Preston A thought I had earlier. If the trinity were true and God is not lying when He says He
created us in His image, why are we not "3 entities as one" when we become 'converted' into the
trinitarian churches? Clearly the tri-une god is an invention of man.

Or, more reasonably, are we to become part of One Body, brought to fruition by the One God who says
"I and the Father are one.” (John 30:10) and "I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is
no God" (Isaiah 45:5).

“And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world” (I John
4:14).

“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward
us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance” (II Peter 3:9).

1:1

Law Wren Michael, they have this covered also. Humans are body, soul and spirit, reflective, in
trinitarian thought, of the three-person godhead. Similarly, the blood/the water/the Spirit,
father/mother/child family unit, red/white/and blue of the Texas flag, take your pick of any set
of three and there is a way to work it into trinitarian terms that serve to promote the doctrine.
 It's a refusal to acknowledge not only Christ's ultimate authority, but also our ultimate unity
with Him. In an attempt to weaken Him by disregarding His divinity, which is what necessarily
happens when you divide a house against itself, they make their Jesus' sacrifice less whole, less
total and complete, and then allow for imperfection in those he ransomed by virtue of his
weakness. No expectation of perfection in you when your savior is a failure. From there we get
"we're all sinners saved by grace, just struggling along day in and day out" rhetoric. But not "all"
because weak "Jesus" likewise couldn't save the whole of creation, saints and sinners, the living
and the dead. The "father" didn't give all of them into his hand. There is a workaround for
everything. The implications of this one false doctrine are massive in their scope of destruction.
This is why Catholics resist the Truth of His Unity. The entire infrastructure of their belief system
hinges on it, at the expense of resting on the Cornerstone Himself. To their detriment.

Victor Hafichuk Michael Preston, the fact is they're reading little or nothing. They don't care,
and this I tell you, God is finished winking at people like those you contend with here. The door
is shut to them now. They have their reward and have filled to the full their sins for judgment.

That's how it is. Men and not God have taught them; they believe men, and what men say the
Scriptures teach and when I teach from the Scriptures what God has given me, they blaspheme.
So it was in the Day of the Lord's coming before and so it is now.

As you can all see, I'm in agreement with what Martin VanPopta has said here. No contradiction
in what I'm saying now.

Michael Preston Victor Hafichuk I'd seen that they weren't, but wasn't sure. Thanks, both you
and Martin VanPopta. I'll watch as you said above.

Martin VanPopta I have a few things to say here after discussing this conversation with Victor Hafichuk.

While it may seem to Dennis-Kim Stevenson, Michael Richardson, or Mirta Carpenter, that this is the
kind of propagation of our doctrine that we encourage, the exact opposite is true.

This is absolutely vexing for us. We'd rather not have to be drawn into a religious gang-fight like this, but
we also don't want you folks to believe we're being represented by this kind of contentious back and
forth, and so we're forced into intervening.

Martin VanPopta Here's where we stand.....

Martin VanPopta Lawren, stop theologizing and get a job. I don't care if you have to sweep floors or
clean toilets. ANYTHING is more profitable than trying to impress everyone. Your showing off won't
replace being a useful, contributing member of mankind. Get a job and make it so that no employer
would ever dream of letting you go. Serve somebody instead of serving your ego.

Michael Preston, you've got your own problems and they're much bigger than somebody else's
technically incorrect doctrine. Straighten out your own home.

Nicholas Carpenter, I'm not sure where you're coming from, but I would stick to working hard and
serving those around you, walking humbly before the Lord. Engaging in doctrinal fights with your
mother on FB is a waste of valuable time.

As for you folks who defend the stupidity of the Trinitarian doctrines, we're not here to debate you. If
you want to hang on to stinking, festering, rotten doctrines, instead of being made whole by the Tree of
Life, that's no concern of ours. It's evident that it will take a lot more than some fancy theological
footwork to get the Truth to sink into your God-damned and stubborn spirits. We're not here to tango
with you.

You obviously think we're wrong, or nuts, or even heretics, which is expected and fine by us. We don't
give a dam if you destroy yourselves. Whatever you have to do, go and do it quickly.

Law Wren I'm sorry for speaking arrogantly and out of turn.

Martin VanPopta Never mind sorry. Have you found a job yet. Consider working for free for a
while to prove your worth to an employer. You should be working right now, instead of being a
busybody. You're just out to contend with and destroy people. Why should we applaud your
wickedness just because you're twisting the Truth we preach to accomplish your pleasure?

Law Wren Martin, it was never my intent to twist the truth and I genuinely did not think I was
set on destruction of people in my responses. I understand I've been a fool following the flesh
and I've been speaking sinfully. I thought I was prompted to speak by the Lord.

I did have an employment offer and was set to start tomorrow but it came down to getting a flu
vaccination and the offer was revoked when I refused. I'm set to speak with another potential
employer later today.
 Martin VanPopta You don't have to intend, you kill by nature. You don't know the Lord and you
don't hear from Him. I've already addressed your employment situation in your other post.

Nicholas Carpenter Martin VanPopta

This particular conversation and mention of my stance against the trinity came from the past
week or so of back and forth with my Mom. She bought me a copy of Systematic Theology and
started going through the trinity part and I sat down and started going through with her;
bringing up anything contradictory that I found.

With the first post I made on this thread I asked for a little help from Michael Preston and the
last thing he advised was not to strive against people who refuse to believe what is freely given
to them. After that I went back to take out the overly contentious parts. My goal wasn't to strive
in this; but to discuss the truth with those who've responded. I didn't do too well meeting said
goal.

Not contending with what you said or justifying anything on this thread. I know I'd be far better
served doing what you've expressed. I'll be sure to aim for peace rather than further discord in
the future; and focus on working and walking humbly. I don't think I did the later within this
thread.

I get a computer in front of me and suddenly because I can look up scripture I think I'm given to
preach it and can change people's minds. I see now that's not up to me but the Lord. I repent for
my arrogance.

Michael Mercy Mercier Nicholas Carpenter thank you for humbling yourself.

Victor Hafichuk You are a phony, Michael; God knows it and I know it; only blind fools don't.
And should you scoff and accuse me of lack of substance, you need only read what I have to say
from the Lord at TPOT. But you won't; you've chosen your destructive way and you are perfectly
entitled to it. "Let no man stay you" (Pr. 28:17)

The same applies to Michael Richardson and Dennis-Kim Stevenson. Of you, the Scriptures
declare and I declare:

"But these people attack with insults anything they do not understand; and those things that
they know by instinct, like wild animals, are the very things that destroy them. How terrible for
them! They have followed the way that Cain took. For the sake of money they have given
themselves over to the error that Balaam committed. They have rebelled as Korah rebelled, and
like him they are destroyed" (Jude 1:10-11 GNB).
Michael Mercy Mercier Victor Hafichuk you are a malignant narcissist and what's even worse you are
extremely full of yourself and your own pride and you are at the same time demon-possessed! I know
that I have The Holy Spirit and you choose to condemn humble Christians whereas if you died today you
would burn in Hell Forever and it would be better if you were never born. Is your middle name Judas?
You refuse to answer who you are because you have a very dark heart with a lot of hatred in your heart.
You practice darkness and you have ears to hear but you refuse to listen. Stop wasting everyone's time
And REPENT!

Brandon LaBerteaux I believe his middle name is Nicholas, coincidentally, which means “victory
of/for the people.”

Every measure of judgment you use and rail on with here shall be used and IS levied against you
when you come before the Lord, Michael, and you HAVE come before Him, Here, Now. It’s
finished as you speak.

Mark what has been said here to you. You shall be called into account for every idle word, and
you will mourn when you remember this day.

Michael Mercy Mercier IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST I REBUKE YOU WHITEWASHED TOMBS!
YOU HYPOCRITES! YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY! INSIDE YOU ARE FERROCIOUS WOLVES WHO
HAVE NOT LOVE AND TBEREFORE DO NOT LOVE. YOUR CULT WILL BE EXPOSED

Michael Mercy Mercier Brandon are a closet homosexual? Are you dying in your lusts of the
flesh but hiding it like others in the cult? Are you gay with anyone? There is a lot of hatred in
your cult leader's heart. Did he abuse you? Spiritually, physically, intellectually emotionally
socially and/or sexually? Your false prophet, like Joseph Smith And JIM JONES Is he a Russian
Spy? Research your "holier than thou leader" WHO HAS THE LEVIATHAN AND CONSTRICTOR
SPIRIT AND WHO'S NAME IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE LAMB's BOOK OF LIFE JUST LIKE THE
PHARISEES RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND TEACHERS OF THE LAW WHO TRIED TO USE OT LAW TO
TRUMP GRACE AND THE MESSIAH REBUKED THEM AS I AM REBUKING YOU NOW: "GO TO HELL
YOU UNREPENTANT MENSTEALERS! REPENT! TURN OR BURN! PRIDE GOETH BEFORE YOUR FALL
AND "KNOWLEDGE PUFFS UP. LOVE EDIFIES."

Sabine Smit Michael Mercy Mercier you just came out and described..... yourself. Your typing in
all caps won't do a thing for you, at least not in the way you are expecting. They are empty
threats, but like Brandon is saying, they are perfectly working against you and you'll be called
into account for them. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Michael Mercy Mercier It was not the sinners or tax collectors who rejected and condemn Jesus
on the cross. It was the Pharisees and the Scribe who rejected Jesus and condemn him on the
cross for they were Righteous in there own eyes which Harden their heart.
So Jesus said I come not to called the righteous but sinner, to repentance.
Do not harden your heart like the Pharisees and scribes.
For The Kingdom of Heaven has come.

Revelation 3:20 "Behold, I Stand at the Door, and Knock: if any man Hear MY Voice, and open
The DOOR I Will come in to him, and Will Sup with him, and he With ME." THE LORD AND THE
SAVIOUR THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH Does NOT need a
particular prophet to deliver HIS Message It's ALL in The HOLY Bible And The HOLY Bible IS The
Written WORD of GOD. REAL NAME MEANS "GOD MOST HIGH" AND IS EL ELYON Hebrews 4:12
And YAHSHUA MESSIAH IS THE LIVING WORD OF EL ELYON GET IT RIGHT! DO NOT ADD OR
SUBTRACT FROM THE HOLY BIBLE.

Michael Mercy Mercier Sabine Smit what is the name of your cult? Matthew 7:1-2 Applies to
you and EL ELYON WILL BRING YOUR SICK CULT TO LIGHT AND TO JUSTICE FOR YAHSHUA
MESSIAH IS THE "ONE TRUE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE" AND IF ANY OF YOU LAY A FINGER ON Nicholas
Carpenter OR ANYONE I WILL NOT ONLY PRAY TO EL ELYON IN THE NAME OF LOVE FOR YOU TO
BE JUDGED WITH HIS WRATH BUT I WILL ALSO LET HAVE YOUR ENTIRE CULT INVESTIGATED AND
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IS NOT ALREADY IN THE WORKS?

Michael Mercy Mercier Nicholas Carpenter, where do you live and what church do you go to or
is it a secret? Where can we all go to get the Divine Reveleation that I am dying to hear after
your cult members are attacking me because they are hiding their own very evil sins in their
heart and their lives?

Nicholas Carpenter Michael Mercy Mercier

You're kidding me, right?
So let me make something very clear to you since you haven't understood it from all the prior
emails or comments (look at the bottom of the thread).

I stand ready with shield and sword pointed at you. Don't try to act like you are protecting me
by dragging me into the hell you live in. Do not lay a finger on me lest I be defiled and the Lord
 cast me away from Him as he has cast you off. As I said in the bottom post you will be blocked
after the time period is up. All I can see if that you have fulfilled the Lord's purpose well; in
showing me the absolute insanity I was saved from.

Go your way. I have no part with you. If you will not leave; but instead continue to stand against
the Lord; then be destroyed.

Michael Mercy Mercier How do you think Id be destroyed?

Michael Mercy Mercier Nicholas Carpenter are you or anyone else planning on laying hands on
me? "Lay hands suddenly on no man. " I am not afraid of mere mortals. Your pride will burn in
Hell Forever and you better Humble yourself and your leader before EL ELYON JUDGES YOU ALL
AND yall dont even know the Real Name of God And Jesus

Michael Mercy Mercier O The Depth of The Riches Both of The WISDOM And
Knowledge of EL ELYON! How UNsearchable Are HIS Judgments, And HIS WAYs PAST finding out!
Romans 11:33 KJV

Nicholas Carpenter John 7 45-53 AMP

45 Then the guards went [back] to the chief priests and Pharisees, who asked them, “Why did you not
bring Him [here with you]?” 46 The guards replied, “Never [at any time] has a man talked the way this
Man talks!” 47 Then the Pharisees said to them, “Have you also been deluded and swept off your feet?
48 Has any of the rulers or Pharisees believed in Him? 49 But this [ignorant, contemptible] crowd that
does not know the Law is accursed and doomed!” 50 Nicodemus (the one who came to Jesus before and
was one of them) asked, 51 “Does our Law convict someone without first giving him a hearing and
finding out what he is [accused of] doing?” 52 They responded, “Are you also from Galilee? Search [and
read the Scriptures], and see [for yourself] that no prophet comes from Galilee!” 53 [h][And everyone
went to his own house.

Michael Mercy Mercier/Gabe Real Graces / Matthew from Buford GA and a member of the Source
Church and self proclaimed prophet.

You're condemned for the very things I tried to warn you about. But Lord knows I tried to keep you from
the ways of the destroyer over our email conversations.

Proverbs 24 AMP
11
Rescue those who are being taken away to death,
And those who stagger to the slaughter, Oh hold them back [from their doom]!
12
If you [claim ignorance and] say, “See, we did not know this,”
Does He not consider it who weighs and examines the hearts and their motives?
And does He not know it who guards your life and keeps your soul?
And will He not repay [you and] every man according to his works?

If a vessel of dishonor you are; then who am I to contend with what the Lord has made. As I have said
many times; go your way. I'm am sick of the constant vexation you bring to every life you touch.

To Mirta Carpenter, Michael Richardson, and Dennis-Kim Stevenson

The first passage describes perfectly what has been happening since I first brought TPOT to your
attention. I ask you all the same; do our morals and values condemn a person without first giving him a
hearing? From my knowledge the first thing he heard from any of the 3 of you was from my mom
calling Victor Hafichuk a heretic. No wonder you are left where you are. You condemn before you hear;
and judge based on the appearance of "jugmentalism" and "heresy". The Lord was judged in the same
way, and crucified because of such.

John 7:24 English Standard Version (ESV)

24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

Ask yourselves; if you are willing to humble yourselves and be humbled; is everything you spout off pure
and based on revelation given from God? Or is it mere opinion and baseless beliefs of which I hear
condemnation of; yet all too often hear pouring out of your mouths.

I'm in full agreement with Martin VanPopta and Victor Hafichuk. At the end of the day, as the men sent
to get Elijah in 2 Kings 1, so have you all treated Victor. There is no fear of God in anything I hear or see
from any of you. Merely self-aggrandizing, and putting on a face of being wiling to hear. Yet you will only
hear from a 21 year old kid, and not the teachers of said kid. Although guilty of exactly the same, by the
grace and mercy of the Lord I am not that kid anymore.

And no, Victor is not God. But a man of God he is. And so like all believers before me who stood with
men of God; I stand with Jesus Christ.

[Later removed.]

Dennis-Kim Stevenson Nicholas Carpenter I’d encourage you to re-read the few remarks I've
made on this thread and judge for yourself whether the words / tone of your message to me in
the post above are in any way justified. But know that I'm not offended. Love ya mon!

Copied below for reference:

 “To Mirta Carpenter, Michael Richardson, and Dennis-Kim Stevenson

The first passage describes perfectly what has been happening since I first brought TPOT to your
attention. I ask you all the same; do our morals and values condemn a person without first
giving him a hearing? From my knowledge the first thing he heard from any of the 3 of you was
from my mom calling Victor Hafichuk a heretic. No wonder you are left where you are. You
condemn before you hear; and judge based on the appearance of "jugmentalism" and "heresy".
The Lord was judged in the same way, and crucified because of such.

John 7:24 English Standard Version (ESV)

24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

Ask yourselves if everything you spout off is pure and based on revelation given from God? Or is
it mere opinion and baseless beliefs of which I hear condemnation of; yet all too often hear
pouring out of your mouths.

I'm in full agreement with Martin VanPopta and Victor Hafichuk. At the end of the day, as the
men sent to get Elijah in 2 Kings 1, so have you all treated Victor. There is no fear of God in
anything I hear or see from any of you. Merely self-aggrandizing, and putting on a face of being
wiling to hear. Yet you will only hear from a 21 year old kid, and not the teachers of said kid.
Although guilty of exactly the same, by the grace and mercy of the Lord I am not that kid
anymore.

And no, Victor is not God. But a man of God he is.”

Michael Mercy Mercier Nicholas Carpenter do NOT believe Victor he is tying to take the Victory for
himself. He is a false prophet who has been leading you astray and "it would be better for a milstone to
be tied around his neck and for him to be thrown into the bottom of the sea" according to whom you
call Jesus Christ. He is an abuser of himself with mankind and watch out! He has already abused your
mind and you deep down can feel what his real intentions are. He wants to own you control you use you
and abuse you and tries to condemn us Righteous Ones inc

Michael Mercy Mercier Including your mom

Michael Mercy Mercier He is evil

Michael Mercy Mercier He does NOT have The Holy Spirit

Michael Mercy Mercier Because The Holy Spirit cannot speak against itself and I know that I have The
Holy Spirit!

Michael Mercy Mercier "HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER."

Michael Mercy Mercier ARE YOU?

Nicholas Carpenter Deuteronomy 13 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

The False Prophet
13 “If a prophet or someone who has dreams arises among you and proclaims a sign or wonder
to you, 2 and that sign or wonder he has promised you comes about, but he says, ‘Let us follow
other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us worship them,’ 3 do not listen to that
prophet’s words or to that dreamer. For the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you
love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul. 4 You must follow the Lord your
God and fear Him. You must keep His commands and listen to His voice; you must worship Him
and remain faithful[a] to Him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he has
urged rebellion against the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt and
redeemed you from the place of slavery, to turn you from the way the Lord your God has
commanded you to walk. You must purge the evil from you.

For those who will read this after the fact; I didn't delete any of Matthew's comments before;
but now in accordance with the word of God I'm purging this evil and blocking him. He claims to
have visions and dreams; and I have heard multiple prophecies from him that haven't
happened; as well as experienced his blatant disregard for scripture. He has nothing to add and
only time and energy to take. He is the theif, killer, and destroyer. Anyone who read his posts
and believes him or agrees with him is contrary to the Lord Jesus Christ as this man is contrary
to all of the Lord's ways.

Because I unblocked you to try and tag you, you have 48 hours. I apologize to everyone for
allowing this inconvenience.

Michael Mercy Mercier Nicholas Carpenter Victor is a false prophet.

Victor Hafichuk Nicholas Carpenter, why aren't you telling everyone here who the players are, double
identity and all, what their real names are, and that you know them?

Nicholas Carpenter I told everyone up top that I knew Matthew, but it never crossed my mind
to mention that I know everyone here. Dennis Stevenson is a family friend, micheal richardson is
from my parents church and mirta is my mom. Matthew I know from a week I spent in a mental
institute.

All the information I'm giving was not intentionally hid; not even the fact that I have been in a
mental institute. It either didn't cross my mind or didn't come up.

Victor Hafichuk Something else that makes me angry. People like your mother come along accusing and
condemning us for bringing Truth and Correction to their children whom they messed up and failed to
nurture in the Lord. Clean up your own mess, woman, or shut up and stop opposing our work in the
Lord.

Nicholas Carpenter Amen. In the same regard; I ought to clean up my own mess before
worrying about her's (or anyone else's).

Alan Agnew Nicholas Carpenter by the way, Victor Hafichukis still blocked by your mom, right?
Isn’t this comment by Victor meant to reach her? Unless I’m wrong, perhaps you’d like to tell
her, Nicholas?

Nicholas Carpenter Alan Agnew I thought about tagging her in it yesterday but I think she has
blocked me. I thought about emailing this to her because she is only getting worse. She told me
that i should go to a Jehovah's Witness service since I obey the 4th commandment (although she
referenced it as my sabbath -_- ). That comment by her drove me up a wall.
I think I should email it to her and Lord willing she will repent. Is this a good thing to do Victor
Hafichuk?

Victor Hafichuk Nicholas Carpenter Her voice and actions are not those of a mother and
certainly not one who cares about anyone or about what's right, never mind a son. No surprise.