Вы находитесь на странице: 1из 7

42/47RE

Transmissions by David Skora

Won’t Shift
Without the
Alternator

T
he title of this article says it Affect On Us
all. Every year, more things In 1997, the PCM started sup-
outside the transmission affect plying power to the electromagnetic
transmission operation. There’s no rotor inside the alternator. At the same
question that fixing customers’ vehicles time, Dodge engineers tied a few other
is getting more complicated with every devices into the same power supply…
new model. including the transmission relay.
In this article we’re going to cover So the only way the relay can work
the relay control system used on late is if the alternator and charging system
Dodge trucks and vans. These systems are working properly, and there are no
use a PCM-controlled relay to control related codes. What it also did is give
voltage to the overdrive, lockup and lots of people working on 42/47RE
governor solenoids. If the PCM detects transmissions something else to worry
a circuit fault for the relay or any of about.
the solenoids, it only has to shut the
relay off.

 GEARS April 2009


037 177 480 334A 880
530
378 047

Automatic Transmission Parts Standard Transmission Parts


Input
nput Shaft
IIn
n f
507 778
7
777 Pump
Stator
Hard Parts Input Clutch Hub • Rebuilt Kits
O.Dr. / Reverse Input Clutch
Parts • OE Manufacturer, Aftermarket New, • Bearing
PistonKits with Syncro
Retainer
Rings
Front Coverr Plate Body
Remanufactured, & Used • Gasket Sets
232 571 220 • Clutch
570
7 Drums
214
1 576
7 234 883 482 558
• Gears & Shafts 568
331 121 101 141
4 863*
863
3**
3
140 891 110 130 150 892* 884
052 • Shafts Rebuilt
330 Transmissions
968 978 865

• Front Pumps • Standards


• Planets Clutch Parts
• Valve Bodies • Sach’s & Valeo Clutch Kits (New)
• Complete Line of Miscellaneous parts • Forks
Torque Converters • Pilot Bushings & Bearings

800-940-0197
Underdrive Hub O.Dr.
O.
O .Dr. Hub Reverse Hub
• Complete line of CVC Remanufactured • Clutch Alignment Tools 4th Clutch
2nd / 4th Retainer
Reverse Clutch
Converters Transfer Case Parts
644
054 596
5 235* 616 241 586 873 238 584
583 Soft Parts 592 886 888 887 285
• Gasket & Seals Kits
577 654 664 885*
244 612 247 582
582
8 251 154 114
053 058
• Master Kits • Overhaul Kits
• Banner Kits (Less Steels) • Chains

sales@wittrans.com • Overhaul Kits


• Paper/Rubber Kits
Shop Supplies & Tools
• Additives
• Filters & Kits • Assembly Lubricants
• Frictions
or buy online at
• Builders Benches
Low Roller
Reaction Planet Reverse Planet
Pl Input Planet • Steels Input Ring • Lifts Clutch
• Bushing Gear
• Parts Washer Soap Low/Rev
Low/R
Re
R ev

www.wittrans.com
996
• Modulators • Rough Service Light Bulbs
760
6
• Washers • R.T.V. Black, Blue, Clear
8 690 895
770 • Bearings
480 429 897
317
7
271 77
770 781
• Technical Manuals
• Gaskets074 • Tools & Equipment
• Bands • Threadlock
• Flex Plates & Flywheels
• Speedo Gears
• Mounts 950
Park • Coolers 926B
Gear
e
761
7
• TeckPak Conversion
M304317B Kits 926
Ca
Case • Superior Shift Correction Packages
Ext. Housing
E 352 3
379
Parts
Pa • Detent Cables 927
95
370 • Transgo Reprogramming Kits
347
352
740
370
y.
4
438
436
Case • Transgo Shift Kits 010
342
420
0
846 300
013 540

WIT-placd.indd 3 1/8/09 10:49:48 AM


Figure 1

Alternator Basics as large and as heavy as an


Before we get into checking the automatic transmission.
relay control circuits, we should take Automotive alternators
a moment to become familiar with include a rotor (electromag-
alternators. After all, several of today’s net), a stator, and a set of
hybrid cars and no doubt cars in the diodes that form a rectifier.
future won’t use transmissions as we The rotor typically has six
know them. Instead, they’re going to electromagnets which vary
have one or more alternators to move in strength depending on
the car forward and generate electricity the field voltage applied to
during braking (figure 1). Guess who’s them. We’ll test this later in
going to fix them: You are, that’s who. the article.
Inventors have been toying with As the engine spins
alternating current (AC) generators for the rotor, the rotor induces
over 150 years. But it wasn’t until alternating current into the
miniature diodes were available in the stator. The stator is the coil
early 1960s that the modern alternator of wire wound around an
was born. That’s enough of a history iron support and mounted to
lesson. the alternator housing. The
The reason alternators are the engi- rectifier’s job is to convert
neers’ choice for generating electric- AC into DC. At this point
ity is that they’re very efficient. Most the alternator’s job is done.
alternators are in the range of 60-75% Automotive alternators
efficient. And with a little wiring modi- can produce more current
fication, they can also work as electric than required, so a regula-
motors. tor controls the current level
The two most common alterna- from the alternator to pro-
tor/motor designs are the Permanent vide just enough current to
Magnet Motor and the Induction Motor operate the vehicle’s elec-
(figure 2). They can produce 3-phase trical devices and keep the
alternating current or they can turn battery charged.
AC into rotating torque to drive the In case someone asks
vehicle. When used for operation in a you, there are two stator
hybrid, these alternator/motors can be designs. The most common Figure 2

GEARS April 2009 5

4skora.indd 5 3/13/09 12:55:17 PM


42/47RE Transmissions Won’t Shift Without the Alternator

amp Ford alternators were Star wound.


But most of these have been superseded
by the Delta design.
Earlier, we mentioned that the rotor
is a series of electromagnets. When the
rotor spins inside the stator, the alterna-
tor produces alternating current. The
faster the rotor spins, the more current
and voltage the alternator produces.
Since electrical demands on the vehicle
vary and the rotor spins at variable
speeds, the easiest way to regulate volt-
age and current is to control the voltage
to the electromagnets.

Figure 3: Delta Design


Troubleshooting
If a late-model Dodge truck with
a 42-47RE unit comes in with a “trans
relay stuck off” code or in limp mode,
the first thing to do is troubleshoot
the charging system. Don’t forget the
basics like checking the battery condi-
tion, state of charge, and making sure
that the battery and alternator cables are
clean and tight.
• Connect a battery charge tes-
ter, voltmeter or current probe to the
battery terminals.
• Start the engine.
• Check the state of charge on
the battery and charging system with
Figure 4: Star Design your test equipment.

Checking Source Voltage


If the alternator isn’t charging
properly, you’ll need to check the sys-
tem, beginning with the source voltage
to the alternator (figure 7). Check the
white/dark blue or dark blue wire at
the alternator connector (pin 2) for 12.2
volts (PCM source voltage).
• If there’s no voltage present, refer
to the next heading to check for
missing source voltage.
• If voltage is present, monitor the
dark green wire at the alternator
connector (pin 1) for voltage.
When the alternator is under a
light load, a typical voltmeter reading
on pin 1 should be 8-10 volts. If there’s
no voltage, the rotor or brushes may
be open.
Figure 5 When you turn the headlights or
design is the Delta. These alternators 3 and 4). other electrical loads on, the voltage to
typically produce less voltage but more One difference is that the Star pin 1 should drop to 4-5 volts (figure
current than the Star design, which can design begins producing voltage at 5). This would indicate that the PCM is
develop more voltage but less current. lower RPM. The alternators used on increasing alternator output.
For automotive use, neither design has Dodge, GM and high-output Fords use If you need further verification
a big advantage over the other (figures Delta-wound stators. A few older 35-60 that the alternator can produce voltage

6 GEARS April 2009

4skora.indd 6 3/13/09 12:55:39 PM


We sell reliability.

Go with a name you know and trust – Precision International.


The technological leader in transmission repair for over 30 years.
There’s a lot riding on the quality and reliability of your work. That’s why you can’t take shortcuts when
repairing a transmission. Whatever make, model or year you’re working on, Precision has the best parts and
kits to fix it. All are cross-checked against the latest OEM specs (with changes noted and made). All are OE
quality or better. And all are guaranteed to work. Plus, our huge inventory virtually assures immediate delivery.

You can count on us


We also offer outstanding tech support, including You see, at Precision, reliability isn’t just an empty
www.transmissionkits.com – our informative promise. It’s the heart and soul of our business. . .
website with continually updated video seminars as well as yours. For more information, give us a call.
www.transmissionkits.com
from leading transmission expert John Parmenter,
question and answer forums, complete parts
information and much
more. So you can
troubleshoot any problem
and offer your customers
the very best transmission
solutions possible. The Problem Solvers.
14 Todd Court Extension, Yaphank, NY 11980
(631) 567-2000 • Fax (631) 567-2640 • Toll Free: 800-872-6649
Florida Office: 6790 Hillsdale Point, Boynton Beach, FL 33437
(561) 734-2332 • Fax (561) 734-2375
E-mail: sales@transmissionkits.com www.transmissionkits.com

prec-plcd.indd 7 3/13/09 1:52:09 PM


42/47RE Transmissions Won’t Shift Without the Alternator

and current, ground the dark green wire that the circuits out- Normal Color
(full field the rotor) and see whether the side the PCM are
alternator output increases. capable of working.
• If alternator output increases with This leaves the PCM
the dark green wire grounded, as the remaining sus-
the alternator is good. Check the pect. Use the next test
PCM for codes or the data stream to check the PCM.
for false battery temperature. • Using a fused
• If the alternator output doesn’t jumper, connect
increase either with the PCM con- 12 volts to the
trol or grounding the dark green white/ dark blue
wire, replace the alternator. or dark blue wire Dark Color = Overloaded
IMPORTANT — Constant heavy at the PCM. Figure 6
use or additional load devices added
to the vehicle’s electrical system can
greatly reduce the life of the alterna-
tor. Figure 6 is an example of a burned
stator assembly from an overloaded
electrical system.

Missing Source Voltage


Perform these checks if the trans
relay is stuck off or you find no voltage
at pin 86 of the relay socket panel with
the engine running. Keep in mind that
there could be several reasons for this.
Decide which of these 4 situations is
causing the source voltage to be miss-
ing and perform the appropriate tests:
Issue 1: The PCM set an alterna-
tor-related code.
Check the rotor field wiring (fig-
ure 7) and alternator. After making the
repairs, clear codes and check for cor-
rect source voltage at the trans relay.
Issue 2: The circuit is open between
the power source and pin 86 at the trans
relay.
Test the circuits for opens or shorts
to another circuit. You may have to
bypass the faulty circuit with a new
wire.
Issue 3: Some device may be con-
suming more current than it should and
drawing the voltage away from pin 86
at the trans relay.
Depending on the situation, the
PCM may continue to supply the volt-
age and not set a code. Using the appro-
priate wiring diagram, locate all the
devices sharing the PCM power source. Figure 7
Unplug them one by one, and see if the • Verify that voltage is present at Each year, more and more of the
source voltage returns to trans relay pin 86 of the trans relay panel. If vehicle’s control systems become inter-
panel pin 86. If there’s still no voltage so, the PCM is bad. woven with the transmission and its
at pin 86, see issue 4. The wiring diagram (figure 7) pro- operation. But by understanding the
Issue 4: The PCM has an internal vides a general view of the circuits. systems and how they work, diagnosis
problem and can’t provide a voltage Refer to the specific wiring diagrams is no more difficult than checking a
signal to pin 68 at the trans relay. for the year and model you’re work- switch or solenoid.
At this point, you have verified ing on.

8 GEARS April 2009

4skora.indd 8 3/17/09 9:36:33 AM


When Getting It Now Is A Must!
Call the Used Parts Inventory Specialists
SE HABLA ESPANOL
Hard Parts • Soft Parts • Converters
We Are The Real Transmission People!

Don't Miss Our Special Pricing • Good While Supplies Last


EVT Specials • While Supplies Last

Filters Application Price


604 88-03 (#72776) $ 2.50
700 82-92 (#61710) Check
$ 2.50
Vince Hall Eloise Hall Walter Quintanilla Rosaura Gomez
Bands (New)
700 82-96 (#61700)
out
$ 5.00
Vince Hall Proprietor C3/A4LD 74-up (#27320H) $ 4.00
ATRA Member for over our
Hard Parts (Used)
35 years. RE4R01A Planet ass. 87-99 $50.00
AODE Pump sta. 93-02 converter
$20.00
We offer a wide variety of hard parts, soft parts, and converters A518 Dir. Drum (3cl.) $10.00
to the automotive industry, attested by over 48 years of quality
customer relations and service in the distribution of automatic
5R55E
JR403E
O/D Planet 95-02
Pump Body
prices!
$20.00
$20.00
transmission parts. 4T60E 2nd Cl. Housing $10.00

Established since 1959, we have proudly served the Southern


California region, and now the whole United States of America Toll Free: 866-388-7278
and beyond. Local: 323-758-1302

1155 N. McKinley Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90059 Tel: 866-EVT-Parts (388-7278) Fax: 323-758-9999

1evt parts.indd 5 11/18/08 8:42:45 AM

Вам также может понравиться