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Labour frontbench back Corbyn in

boycotting Brexit talks until May rules out no
deal 9 Politics live
Labour leader
LIVE Updated says he won’t meet with prime minister until she takes no-deal Brexit
13m ago
off the table, after May narrowly win no-confidence vote in parliament
Full report: May survives vote but Britain remains in Brexit deadlock
Jeremy Corbyn leaving his home this morning. He will give a speech on Brexit later this morning. Photograph: Victoria Jones/PA
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Tory
13m agocampaign for second referendum launched
09:57
Conservative supporters of a second EU referendum have launched a “Right to Vote”
campaign, as new figures suggested that a majority of voters in Tory seats want the public to
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have the final say on Brexit, the Press Association reports. Analysis of polls involving more
than 6,700 voters suggested that majorities in nine out of 10 Conservative-held
constituencies back a so-called “people’s vote”. Conservative MP Phillip Lee, who resigned
as a minister in Theresa May’s government last year over Brexit, said that Tory support for a
fresh poll was “underestimated” and was “growing fast” among the party’s MPs. He said:
The data provided by Best For Britain’s research shows that people have been underestimating
Conservative support for a referendum giving people the final say on Brexit.
I know from private conversations at Parliament that backing among my colleagues for a
referendum is there and is growing fast. We aim to accelerate that with today’s launch of the
Conservative-led Right to Vote campaign.
Conservative politicians need to pay attention to today’s findings. Across all Conservative-held
parliamentary seats, 55.8% of voters in Conservative seats want a referendum if parliament is
deadlocked over Brexit, as it continues to be.
As the Press Association reports, the analysis was conducted by market research company
FocalData for the Best for Britain campaign for a second referendum and the anti-racism
group Hope Not Hate, using a method called “multilevel regression and post-stratification”.
Its findings suggested that a majority in 290 of 317 Tory-held seats (91.5%) back a public vote
if parliament is unable to break the deadlock on Brexit.
Sturgeon
27m ago says SNP won't discuss Brexit options with May unless she will
09:43
consider second referendum
On Good Morning Scotland David Mundell, the Scottish secretary, confirmed that, in her
talks with opposition MPs about an alternative approach to Brexit, Theresa May would not
countenance a second referendum. This is from the BBC’s Gary Robertson.
Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, says unless May drops this red line, the SNP won’t
take part in these talks.
33m ago
09:37
Helena Smith
Over in Strasbourg, MEPs are predicting that in the immediate future a lot will depend on
the stance of the Labour party.
“We all know that the Tory party is traditionally divided, which is why those of us who feel
it is of great strategic importance to the EU that the UK remains are now looking to the
Labour party,” said the Greek MEP Giorgos Kyrtsos, a conservative who sits on the European
Parliament’s economic and monetary affairs committee.
If the Labour party changes policy, comes out against Brexit and moves in favour of a second
referendum it will find solidarity on the European side. There is a growing tendency among
MEPS that we should give remainers a second chance. There are European forces, though not
organised at this stage, who want to help them. A lot of things depend on Labour’s stance.
Kyrtsos, a member of the European People’s party working group dealing with Brexit, said it
was now clear the EU’s more powerful members wanted to be done with Brexit once and for
all. He said:
Germany, France and other more powerful members of the Union are keen now to move
forward with Brexit, albeit for obvious reasons in an organised way. They want to be rid of this
issue.
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36m Dems may refuse to back Labour in further confidence votes unless
09:34
Corbyn supports second referendum
Jessica Elgot
The Lib Dems have suggested they may not back Labour in future confidence votes if
Jeremy Corbyn does not back a second referendum, suggesting any further attempts would
only be in order to evade the issue.
The leaders of the Lib Dems, SNP, Greens and Plaid Cymru wrote to the Labour leader last
night saying the failure to force a general election meant the party must endorse a public
vote on Brexit.
A Lib Dem source said later that the party would not back any attempts at no confidence
votes unless they appeared to be a genuine change of circumstance.
“We will support any real opportunity to take down the Tories with relish,” the source said.
“We will not be party to Corbyn using spurious means to avoid Labour policy, by pursuing
unwinnable no confidence votes.”
Labour
1h ago frontbench will back Corbyn in boycotting Brexit talks until May
09:06
rules out no deal, Gardiner says
Andrew Sparrow
Good morning. I’m Andrew Sparrow, taking over from Matthew Weaver.
Barry Gardiner, the shadow international trade secretary, has just been on the Today
programme. He took issue with something John Humphrys, the Today presenter, said
earlier, about Jeremy Corbyn not having a position on Brexit. Labour does, Gardiner said. It
was in the Labour manifesto (pdf), on page 24, Gardiner said.
Gardiner also complained about the radio news headlines at 8.30am featuring Tony Blair
saying Corbyn should be meeting Theresa May to discuss Brexit (ie, a line critical of Corbyn),
but not feature Blair saying a no-deal Brexit should be taken off the table (a line supportive
of Corbyn).
And Gardiner said Labour frontbenchers would not be meeting members of the government
for talks on Brexit. Asked if those talks would be happening, he said:
No. I have not had any approach myself from my counterpart in government. And, to the best
of my knowledge, none of my colleagues have. Let me be clear; in the Labour party, as a shadow
cabinet, we operate as a team. We are quite clear that it is important that the prime minister
shows good faith; she takes away the gun that she has been trying to hold to parliament’s head
by saying it is either my deal or no deal. Even the chancellor is saying that that no deal should
[be ruled out].
When asked why Corbyn was setting conditions for talks with May, when he had been
prepared to meet others, sometimes “unsavoury people” (a reference to Hamas), without
setting conditions, Gardiner said in this case Labour needed to know that the prime minister
was serious about talks. And, to get a deal through parliament, May would have to abandon
some red lines.
Barry Gardiner Photograph: Jonathan Brady/PA
Blair
1h ago criticises May for sticking to her Brexit red lines, but says Corbyn
08:55
should talk to her anyway
Tony Blair has called for a series of indicative votes on various options for Brexit to help
break the parliamentary deadlock.
Speaking to the Today programme he urged Theresa May to become a “facilitator and
arbiter” for the options put forward by MPs. He said:
She can take a step back and say look we haven’t got an agreement in parliament here are
the options, here’s the pros and cons of each option, and yes you run a series of indicative
votes. It is obvious thing to do. That’s when people are justified in saying to parliament
you’ve got make up your minds.
Blair backs calls for MPs to be given indicative votes on alternative approaches to Brexit.
The Commons Brexit committee also called for this yesterday.

Blair again said the best option would be a second referendum because a hard Brexit would
be too “painful” to the economy and a soft Brexit would be “pointless” because it would
hand over power, without influence, to the EU.
Blair said extending Article 50 was “almost inevitable”. He added:
If I was in government now I would already be having discussions nows about the terms of
an extension. I would be saying we need further time to clarify what parliament wants.
Blair says extending article 50 “almost inevitable”.

But he also urged the EU to make changes.
Blair said:
In a rational world, Britain would think again and Europe would think again.
Over the last 30 months European politics has been in turmoil all over Europe on the very
issues that gave rise to Brexit: anxiety around immigration, anxiety around communities left
behind, that is what has been producing political convulsion all over Europe.
In a rational world Europe would think again on the fundamental questions that gave rise to
Brexit and are giving rise to these political convulsions in Europe.
I would say is there a way you can meet our anxieties over the questions of immigration and
over the questions of integration and you can do that on European wide basis that deals with
the problems underlying Brexit.
Asked if Corbyn should enter talks with May, Blair said:
Of course. If in a moment of national crisis the prime minister asks the leader of the
opposition to come and talk, of course he should.
Blair says Corbyn should be willing to discuss Brexit with May without preconditions.
But he also criticised May’s approach to the consultation.
When I hear her sometimes talk about the consultation the next moment she lays down a
whole lot of red lines, which make that consultation pretty nugatory.
Updated at 9.25am GMT
Blair criticises May for imposing her own conditions on Brexit talks.
2h ago Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable has said Theresa May expressed a willingness to
Liberal
08:10
carry on talking when he met her on Wednesday night to discuss the way forward on Brexit.
“I think in the current state of crisis that is a positive,” he told the BBC Radio 4 Today
programme.
He said he told the prime minister that his party wanted the prospect of no-deal taken “off
the table” and a second referendum. He went on:
The fact that my team are willing to continue talking to her team of senior ministers this
morning suaests that at least there is a willingness to explore these things. Updated at 9.16am GMT
Green
2h ago MP Caroline Lucas urges May to consider citizens' assembly as
08:06
solution to Brexit deadlock
The Green MP, Caroline Lucas, is to use her meeting with Theresa May to call for the
convening of a citizens assembly to help break the Brexit deadlock. Lucas said:
I want to use this opportunity to try to break open this gridlocked process and let different
voices be heard.
I’ll tell the prime minister loud and clear that she must urgently rule out the threat of a no-deal
Brexit and I’ll make the case for the public to have a say on what happens next.
I want to use this meeting to open up the debate about our shared future to the whole country -
not restrict it to the corridors of Westminster - so I’ll also urge her to consider the role a citizens’
assembly might play as a complement to a people’s vote. Updated at 9.15am GMT
2h ago what Ukip makes of Hammond’s reassurance about a no-deal.

Here’s Updated at 9.15am GMT
07:58
2h
Theago
shadow international trade secretary, Barry Gardiner, has defended Jeremy Corbyn’s
07:55
decision to refuse talks with the prime minister unless she rules out a no-deal Brexit.
Speaking to Sky News Gardiner used Hammond’s leaked remarks about MPs blocking a no-
deal to back Corbyn’s stance.
Gardiner said:
The chancellor himself is saying that actually no-deal could be taken off the table within a
matter of days.
If the chancellor of the exchequer is saying it then it seems to me that is not an impossibility at
all. We have senior members of the cabinet threatening to resign unless no-deal is taken off the
table, so you need to give some credence to the possibility that it might happen.
Updated at 9.14am GMT
2h ago
07:48
Lisa O'Carroll
European Union and World Trade Organization checks would be mandatory on both sides of
the Irish border in the event of no-deal Brexit, one of the world’s leading experts on customs
has said.
Michael Lux, a former head of customs legislation and procedures at the European
commission, said the UK would have to impose customs checks and tariffs on the northern
side of the border, despite claims to the contrary by Brexiters.
Under WTO rules, the UK could opt for zero tariffs, but it would be obliged to offer this free-
trade deal to every other country. This would mean cheap food and dairy products, which
currently attract high tariffs, from countries such as Brazil or New Zealand, and might also
lead to chlorinated chicken from the US ending up on British supermarket shelves.
“It would kill UK farming,” said Lux. He also said Brexiters who claim the UK won’t impose
checks in Northern Ireland are naive. Updated at 9.13am GMT
2h ago Soubry, the pro-EU Tory MP, is frustrated by the government’s continued refusal to
Anna
07:45
compromise. Updated at 9.12am GMT
Tory
3h ago chair Brandon Lewis restates government’s objection to staying in
07:37
customs union
Conservative party chairman Brandon Lewis has played down that leaked recording of
Chancellor Philip Hammond suggesting to business leaders that MPs could block a no-deal.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme he said: “Parliament can rule out a no deal and
the way it does that is to agree a deal.”
Asked if he agreed with Hammond that MPs could stop a no-deal Brexit, Lewis said:
I don’t quite take that view. What I’m saying is that I accept parliament has an ability to do a
whole range of things, what I’m saying is the best way to avoid no deal is to agree a deal.
Lewis refused to say what the government would compromise on to get a deal. He appeared
to rule out both joining a customs union and a second referendum.
On a customs union he said: “We are determined to deliver on the referendum and that
means having an international trade policy that is independent.”
That restates what Downing Street and Theresa May were saying yesterday - but it does
amount to ruling out the UK staying in the customs union for good, which is one of Labour’s
main Brext demands. (If the UK were in the customs union, it would not be able to strike its
own trade deals.)
Tory chair Brandon Lewis restates government’s objection to staying in customs union.
And Lewis dismissed a second referendum as a “betrayal of democracy”.Updated at 9.12am GMT
3h ago
07:23
Matthew Weaver
Shadow international trade secretary Barry Gardiner said Theresa May faced having to take
the risk of potentially splitting the Conservative Party in order to break the parliamentary
deadlock. He told ITV’s Good Morning Britain:
If she wants to negotiate with all parties in parliament, and if she wants to do that in good
faith, she has to say ‘Okay, I’m not sticking to every single one of the red lines that I’ve
established’.
We are saying let’s do this in the best interests of the British people, in the way that every
industry, every trade union, every manufacturing association - and even some people in her
own cabinet - are saying is the sensible way forward.
Take no deal out of the equation and let’s get down to doing a solid deal. Updated at 9.08am GMT
Business
3h ago leaders call on Theresa May to back a second referendum
06:52
More than 170 leading business figures have called for Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn to
back a second referendum on withdrawal from the European Union.
The group, including the world-renowned architect Lord Foster, Nobel Prize winner Sir Paul
Nurse and lastminute.com co-founder Baroness Lane-Fox, warned MPs “must not waste any
more time on fantasies”.
The business figures’ letter, which is published in the Times, calls for the leaders of the main
parties to back a so-called People’s Vote and ask the public if they still wish to leave the EU.
“Many businesses backed the Prime Minister’s Brexit deal despite knowing that it was far
from perfect,” said the letter.
“But it is no longer an option. The priority now is to stop us crashing out of the EU with no
deal at all. The only feasible way to do this is by asking the people whether they still want to
leave the EU.
“With the clock now ticking rapidly before we are due to quit, politicians must not waste
any more time on fantasies. We urge the political leadership of both the main parties to
support a People’s Vote.”
How
3h ago the papers are covering last night's vote and May's offer of Brexit
06:41
talks
The front pages of the papers today all lead with Brexit news, and while all agree there is
political chaos, they disagree about who is to blame: is it Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn or
MPs in general?
Our full papers wrap is here. Updated at 8.53am GMT
4h
Andagobecause we all need a little something to cheer us up...
06:31
4h
Theago
Guardian’s economics editor Larry Elliott writes that it is not likely that Brexit in name
06:23
only or no exit at all will lead to radical reform of our broken system.
Brexit, the gilets jaunes protesters in France, the terrible pain inflicted on Greece and the
support for the League/Five Star government in Italy all tell their own story. Europe is alive
with political discontent that reflects the demand for deep and urgent reform, but the chances
of getting it are less likely if the status quo prevails.
Why? Because the forces of conservatism are strong. Change comes about only when the
pressure for it becomes too great to resist. The financial crisis provided one such opportunity to
reform an economic system that for many people clearly wasn’t working; Brexit was a second.
The left’s case for Brexit has always been based on the following notions: the current economic
model is failing; socialism is needed to fix it; and the free-market ideology hardwired into the
EU via the European Central Bank, judgments of the European court of justice and treaty
changes will make that process all but impossible without a break with the status quo.
It is theoretically possible that in the event of a “Brexit in name only” or no Brexit at all,
policymakers will push ahead with what’s needed in order to make a reality of the slogan “a
reformed Britain in a reformed Europe”. Possible but not all that plausible, given that it would
require breaking up the euro, more autonomy for individual countries to intervene in the
running of their economies, and a simultaneous philosophical U-turn in the big member states.
Much more likely is that the pressure for change will dissipate and the real grievances of those
who voted for Brexit will be quietly forgotten. The softer the Brexit, the more convinced the EU
will be that it has been doing the right thing all along. Britain will not go up in flames, but there
will still be consequences. Leave voters will feel they have been victims of an establishment
stitch-up. The anger will not go away and will eventually resurface.
4h ago morning and welcome to the politics live blog as well follow the twists and turns of UK
Good
06:10
politics.
Well, she may have survived the no-confidence vote yesterday, but Theresa May is by no
means out of the woods. The PM has to present a new (“Plan B”) Brexit deal by Monday.
Yesterday, the beleaguered prime minister suggested she was keen to pursue a more
collaborative approach to Brexit, saying “I’m inviting MPs from all parties to come together
to find a way forward, one that both delivers on the referendum and can command the
support of parliament. This is now the time to put self-interest aside.”
This invitation has had a somewhat mixed reaction. Jeremy Corbyn has said he will not
meet with her to discuss a new Brexit deal until she agrees to remove the threat of a no-deal
Brexit, a request May has refused.
The Scottish National party’s leader in Westminster, Ian Blackford, met May last night, as
did Plaid Cymru leader Liz Saville Roberts. The Liberal Democrat leader, Vince Cable, also
accepted her invitation and Greens MP Caroline Lucas is due to meet with May at 9am this
morning.
We will be bringing you all the news and analysis as the day’s events unfold. If you’ve got a
question, comment, or the answer to this Brexit stalemate, please get in touch via email
(kate.lyons@theguardian.com) or on Twitter (@mskatelyons).
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| The Guardian 17/1/19 11&10

Labour frontbench back Corbyn in

oﬀ the table, after May narrowly win no-conﬁdence vote in parliament

Barry Gardiner Photograph: Jonathan Brady/PA

The Commons Brexit committee also called for this yesterday.

Blair said extending Article 50 was “almost inevitable”. He added:

Blair says extending article 50 “almost inevitable”.

Asked if Corbyn should enter talks with May, Blair said:

2h ago what Ukip makes of Hammond’s reassurance about a no-deal.

means having an international trade policy that is independent.”

Our full papers wrap is here. Updated at 8.53am GMT

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