I day ago Zebdonk from my youtube channel left me a comment on the

what the Jehovah’s Witness teach. Below is zebdonk’s comment and my

responce.

Jesus ” had” come in the flesh; JWs do believe that! Otherwise, how could
Jesus have paid the ransom? That said how could he come back from the
dead in the same body? Wouldn’t that be taking back the ransom? If Jesus
had returned from the dead in the same body that he had been born with as
a human then why wasn’t he recognized, instantly, by his disciples and
followers, John 20: 14-16 The bible says Jesus was raised a spirit, 1Peter
3:18. Spirits can appear in human form, Judges 13:9,10.

What I want zebdonk to see.

1 Peter 3:18King James Version (KJV)

18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he
might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the
Spirit:

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me,
and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
ZEBDONK, notice Jesus did not say Flesh and blood! Christ poured out His
blood for us on the cross.

John 10:18 No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have
power to lay it down, and I have the power to take it again. This
commandment have I received of my Father. The JW teachers can not
under stand how Jesus could be dead and raise himself again? There are
many things hard to understand but to say God can not raise Himself as He
promised He would it rejecting His truth!

Revelation 1:17-18 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he
laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the
last:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for
evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death

Revelation 22:12-13
12
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man
according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning
and the end, the first and the last.
Isaiah 44:6 This is Jehovah God talking! “Thus says the LORD the King of
Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last;
and besides me there is no God.”

Isaiah 41:4 Who has performed and done it, calling the generations from
the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Then ask if the Alpha and Omega is the same as the first and the last
(which is the Greek). The Old Testaments phrase “First and the last’ must
be established as the same as the New Testaments “Alpha and Omega.”

Rev 1:7 “Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him,
even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn
because of Him. Even so, Amen.

If as the JW’s teach Jesus never rose from the dead it must be Jehovah
God who was pierced for all man kind. Jesus and Jehovah are the same.
There are no two true Gods only one as pointed out in Isaiah 44:6 and in
John

1 John 5:20 – And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us
an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that
is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

James 2:19 – Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the
devils also believe, and tremble.

John 1:1 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God.

JW Bible reads as follows In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was a God.

Isaiah 44:6 – Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the
LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is]
no God.

Isaiah 43:11 – I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no
saviour.

1 Timothy 2:5 – For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and
men, the man Christ Jesus;

Isaiah 43:10 – Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant

whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand
that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be
after me.

Genesis 1:26 – And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Colossians 2:9 – For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

John 10:30 – I and [my] Father are one.

John 1:14 – And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we
beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of
grace and truth.

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More information on this subject below:

QUESTION: “Was Jesus raised as a spirit after He died or was He bodily

raised from the dead?”
“Christ was not raised in a fleshly body. His old earthly body that died on
the cross was no more. In fact, the Bible says that ‘the last Adam became a
life-giving spirit’ (1 Cor. 15:45). The Scriptures also say that ‘flesh and blood
cannot inherit the kingdom of God’ (v. 50). Therefore, Jesus must have
been raised as a spirit person after He died on the cross.”

ANSWER:

The classic view of the so-called “Jehovah’s Witnesses” is that Jesus is a

“spirit” at present and that he has a “spiritual body.” One of their official
writings states: “Jesus was raised to life as an invisible spirit. He did not
take up again that body in which he had been killed as a human sacrifice to
God” (Let Your Name Be Sanctified, p. 266). Further, Jesus “was not raised
out of the grave a human creature, but he was raised a spirit” (Let God Be
True, p. 272). Again, “This firstborn from the dead was raised from the
grave, not a human creature, but a spirit” (p. 276).

Since the Witnesses do believe that Jesus was merely a “human creature”
during His earthly life, they believe that when he died, He ceased to exist.
They assert: “It is clearly seen that even the man Christ Jesus was mortal.
He did not have an immortal soul: Jesus, the human soul, died”(Let God Be
True, p. 71). What do they mean by Christ’s death? “At death man’s spirit,
his life-force, which is sustained by breathing, ‘goes out.’ It no longer
exists. . . . When they are dead, both humans and animals are in this same
state of complete unconsciousness. . . . That the soul lives on after death is
a lie started by the Devil”(You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, p.
77). When Jesus died, therefore, what was His state? “The human soul
ceases to exist at death” (Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Twentieth Century).
Jesus ceased to exist when He died!

Witnesses also teach that Jesus is no longer a man. You Can Live Forever
in Paradise on Earth states, “Having given up his flesh for the life of the
world, Christ could never take it gain and become a man once more” (p.
143). The Witnesses seem firm in this conviction that Jesus is not a man
and not human (while also denying that he is deity): “Jehovah God raised
him from the dead, not as a human Son,but as a mighty immortal spirit
Son. . . . For forty days after that he materialized, as angels before him had
done, to show himself alive to his disciples” (Let God Be True, p. 40). The
angels, of course, never became flesh and blood as Jesus did through the
virgin conception. They were merely spirit creatures who materialized on
occasion to do God’s will (cf. Heb. 1:14). Witnesses think that Jesus’
appearances are similar: “Usually they could not at first tell it was Jesus, for
he appeared in different bodies. He appeared and disappeared just as
angels had done, because he was resurrected as a spirit creature. Only
because Thomas would not believe did Jesus appear in a body like that in
which he had died” (From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained, p. 144). Did
Jesus appear in the same body—or only in a body “like” that which had
died?

What happened to Christ’s body after it was buried? The Witnesses

answer: “Jehovah saw fit to remove Jesus’ body, even as he had done
before with Moses’ body. (Deuteronomy 34:5, 6) Also, if the body had been
left in the tomb, Jesus’ disciples could not have understood that he had
been raised from the dead, since at that time they did not fully appreciate
spiritual things” (p. 144). In other words, if God had left Jesus’ dead body in
the tomb, the disciples would have been tempted to believe that Jesus had
not been raised from the dead! The teaching of Charles Taze Russell, the
founder of the Witness movement, speculated further: “Our Lord’s human
body . . . did not decay or corrupt. . . . Whether it was dissolved into gases
or whether it is still preserved somewhere . . . no one knows” (Studies in the
Scriptures, 2:129).

Not only was Jesus’ human body not resurrected, according to the
Witnesses, but “Jesus did not take his human body to heaven to be forever
a man in heaven” (Let God Be True, p. 41). You are reading exactly what
the Witnesses believe: Jesus’ human body was not resurrected and did not
ascend to heaven. One further quotation: “Having given up his flesh for the
life of the world, Christ could never take it again and become a man once
more. For that basic reason his return could never be in the human body
that he sacrificed once for all time” (You Can Live Forever in Paradise on
Earth, p. 143).

From these quotations, we can learn something of the teaching of the so-
called “Jehovah’s Witnesses” regarding the resurrection and related
matters:

 Jesus was a man on earth who ceased to exist when He died.

 Jesus was no longer a man, no longer a human being, after His
so-called resurrection.
 The body of Jesus (the body in which He lived and died) was
not resurrected but God “removed” the body as He did Moses’
body.
 Jesus did not appear in the same body in which He died.
 Jesus did not ascend to heaven in his human body.
 Jesus is now merely a “spirit” and has a “spirit” body.
 Jesus’ appearances are similar to appearances of angels.

We believe that these points fairly represent the Witness teaching about
Jesus’ so-called resurrection from the dead. We say “so-called” since it is
clear that they do not really believe in Christ’s resurrection, but in a form of
re-creation. They believe that Jesus ceased to exist for three days and his
human body was disposed of in some manner, after which He was re-
created and came forth as a spirit who would materialize and appear to
various ones, not as a man but as a spirit who was a god. What does
Scripture say about these teachings?

Notice some of the truths of Scripture:

First, Jesus was raised with a glorified physical body. The Lord
appeared to His disciples on the night of the resurrection and invited them
with these words: “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me
and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have”
(Luke 24:39). Jesus’ resurrection body had “flesh” and “bones” and He
specifically said that He was not a “spirit.” He proved the nature of His body
by asking, “Have you anything here to eat?” The record then states: “They
gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; and He took it and ate it before them”
(vv. 41-43). When Peter preached to the household of Cornelius, he said
that Jesus had appeared to chosen witnesses “who ate and drank with Him
after He arose from the dead” (Acts 10:41) (See also Luke 24:30; John
21:12,13.) Christ’s resurrection body was capable of physical functions,
although apparently not needing physical sustenance.

Our Lord had a body that could be touched and handled. When He
appeared to Mary Magdalene in the Garden, this devoted woman touched
Him and He replied, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the
Father”(John 20:17). When the women were on their way to tell the
disciples about the empty tomb, Jesus met them on the way. The record
says that “they came up and took hold of His feet and worshipped Him”
(Matt. 28:9). John the apostle says, “We have looked at and touched with
our hands” (1 John 1:1). Christ’s body was not immaterial. While this
glorified body could appear and disappear at will (cf. Luke 24:31, 36; John
20:19, 26), when Jesus did appear, His body could be seen, felt, and
touched.

Second, Jesus appeared in the same body in which He died. God did
not have to recreate His body; He simply resurrected the same body. The
description of the resurrection scene makes it clear that Christ’s own body
that had been wrapped in the burial clothes had been raised to life (cf. Luke
24:12; John 20:4-9). Paul refers to “the body of His glory” (Phil. 3:21), but
this glorified body was still Christ’s body, the body that was crucified for our
sins. When Jesus cleansed the temple at the beginning of His ministry, He
affirmed, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” (John
2:19). John then explains, “He was speaking of the temple of His body” (v.
21). Jesus, in effect, says that if the Jews “destroy” the temple of His body
through crucifixion, He will raise “it” (His body) up. He will resurrect His
body from the grave! He makes a similar argument at John 10:17-18. The
very body that Jesus offered up for our sins would be laid in a tomb and
would come forth from that tomb as a resurrected, glorified body. The idea
that God “removed” Jesus’ body from the tomb and disposed of it or the
idea that Jesus’ body “dissolved into gasses” or is “preserved” somewhere
on earth is a clear denial of the bodily resurrection of the Son of God!

It is clear that Jesus’ appeared in the same body in which He died. He told
Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here
your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but
believing”(John 20:27; cf. vv. 24-26; Luke 24:39). The apostles saw the very
wound marks in Jesus’ body—testifying to the fact that Jesus Himself was
standing before them with the same body in which He died. John the
apostle later wrote of “what we have seen with our eyes, what we have
looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life” (1 John
1:1). Jesus was no mere spiritual, immaterial being, but could show His
disciples His bodily wounds.

Third, Jesus was raised as a man. It is quite clear that Jesus continues to
be a man, a human being (while also existing as deity). Paul says, “There is
one God, and one mediator also between God and man, the man Christ
Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus is called “the second man” (1 Cor. 15:47). He
further says, “Since by a man [Adam] came death, by a man [Christ] also
came the resurrection of the dead” (15:21). In vision, John the apostle saw
“one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet,” an obvious
reference to Christ Jesus (Rev. 1:13). The Lord Jesus was born as a man
and will continue as a man through all eternity. The does not deny the fact
that He “was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from
the dead” (Rom. 1:4).

Fourth, Jesus ascended to heaven in His resurrection body. Not only

did Jesus rise from the dead in the same crucified body, but He ascended
to the Father in heaven with that same glorified body. Luke says that Jesus
led His disciples as far as Bethany, and “He lifted up His hands and blessed
them. While He was blessing them, He parted from them and was carried
up into heaven” (24:50-51; cf. Mark 16:19). The same scene is given in Acts
1. After Jesus spoke to them, “He was lifted up while they were looking on,
and a cloud received Him out of their sight” (v. 9). The same Jesus, in
bodily form, will one day return for His own. The angels told the disciples,
“This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just
the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven” (v. 11). Christ was
resurrected in a glorified human body, He ascended to heaven with that
same body, and He will return one day with the same glorified body!

Fifth, Jesus no longer has a mortal, perishable, earthly body. Paul

speaks about the resurrection of Christ in 1 Corinthians 15 and points out
that just as Christ rose from the dead, so we will rise from the dead. “Now
Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are
asleep” (v. 20). The apostle compares the pre-resurrection body with the
post-resurrection body in this way:

With this in mind we should understand the statement that “the last Adam
became a life-giving spirit” (1 Cor. 15:45). As spirit, Jesus also had a body,
a body of glory (Phil. 3:21). The “spiritual body” that Christ had when He
was raised from death and the spiritual body that we will have at the
resurrection is not an immaterial body, but a body that is no longer subject
to death and decay (1 Cor. 15:44). Further, when Paul says that “flesh and
blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor. 15:50), He must mean that
that which is mortal, earthly, and perishable cannot inherit God’s kingdom.
“Flesh and blood” can simply mean mortal man, as a comparison with
Jesus’ words at Matthew 16:17 reveals: “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona,
because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in
heaven.” Therefore, mortal man cannot inherit God’s kingdom—but man,
resurrected with an immortal body, can enter His kingdom. 1 Corinthians
15:50b bears out this understanding. After saying that flesh and blood
cannot inherit the kingdom of God, Paul says, “nor does the perishable
inherit the imperishable.” In other words, “flesh and blood” stands for the
“perishable” and the kingdom of God stands for the “imperishable.” Our
perishable bodies will not inherit God’s kingdom, but we will have
resurrected, glorified, immortal, spiritual, and heavenly bodies that will
inherit God’s kingdom. It is significant that the idea of a “spiritual” body (1
Cor. 15:44) does not necessarily mean an immaterial or invisible body any
more than one who is “spiritual” now is in an immaterial form and invisible to
our sight (1 Cor. 2:15).

How important is Christ’s Resurrection?

While some people may simply dismiss this question as inconsequential,

Scripture says that Christ’s resurrection is essential for our eternal
salvation. Paul declared, “If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord,
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be
saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and
with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation”(Rom. 10:9-10). Did God
raise Jesus from the dead? Yes. In order to be saved from our sins, we
must believe in this fundamental fact of the gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-11). If
Christ did not literally rise from the dead, we are hopeless: “If Christ has not
been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins” (1 Cor. 15:17;
cf. vv. 12-22). If Jesus’ body merely dissolved into gasses or if God simply
“removed” His body to some unknown location on earth, we will perish in
our sins!
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