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-Also, note that the nature of the Veygr fleet will be a reaction to your own.
Meaning, if the brunt of your force was anti-capship. The Veygr will start the
next level with an overwhelming fighter-based force, and vice-versa.
-You may consider this cheap, but remember that you have the ability to replay
the level (the CPU doesn't have the same advantage). However, combined with
many other aspects of the game that I discuss later in the guide, HW2 comes out
as a strictly hardcore, extremely difficult RTS.
-Thanks to a good friend of mine (Blackwolf), the thing to keep in mind about
this game is that it has been designed in such a way that the only technique
that has a realistic chance of finishing it is power-player style (aka
Hoarding). In other words, quick hit-and-run style (hotdogging - WC4) will
most likely fail. You really do have to harvest every last RU, build every last
possible unit and kill every last enemy unit to make it to the ending.
Scripted Events
Automatic sequences (think of them as videos, except that they are built using
the game engine) which when triggered (either via a certian timer, action, or
objective completion) begin to take action without you being able to control it
(because it has been pre-written for the level). Most of these you can skip by
hitting the Esc key.
Fleet Carryover
Like HW1, this game continues the welcome tradition of bringing along all your
units from previous missions to your current mission. This adds a tactical
aspect, because you can't simply just attempt to win a mission but instead you
have to do so with enough grace to support your next challenge (getting to
mission 12 with no RUs and no BCs is simply a ticket to restarting your game
from scratch!)
bombs Bombers 14
fast, agile, hurts capships withouth them being able to retaliate much
MS Mothership
because I have no other choice
BC Battelcruiser 2
because - like I said in my HW guide - they are such beautiful things
D Destroyer 5
fairly fast, packs a punch and eats frigates alive
DN Dreadnaught
they are cool to watch in action
ceptors Interceptors
Because I would rather use all my fighter limit on bombers. Plus it is somewhat
easier to use other units for defending against enemy fighters.
4. Salvage vettes used to be so cheap (270RU) that if you were to lose a couple
in the process of getting a BC, it would still be so much worth your while
because a single BC used to cost 3700RU in HW. In HW2 however, a single MF is
700RUs. Combined with its lack of speed and the AI's tendency to rape any
incoming MF makes for a very costly capture that nullifies the need to do it in
the first place.
5. Many units in the single player campaign are not capture-prone per se. As a
matter of fact, the only units (worth the trouble) that I have been successful
capturing are destroyers and even then, it is so costly to do so that it makes
no sense.
1. This is not a complete guide. It is simply for those who are fairly familiar
with this game but still find it unusually difficult (and rightly so). It will
not discuss in detail unit stats or multiplayer tactics etc.
3. To maximize the use of this guide, you will need to go through each level at
least once to be familiar with the scripted events. I will not be describing
the course of those within this guide (unless necessary)
General Strategies
-------------------
1. Always have the maximum possible number of units from each unit type. Use
the I key to display your fleet stats and fill them accordingly. Most
missions expect you to do something specific so as to end the mission. Try to
keep at least one objective alive so as to allow you to take your time in
building your fleet before ending the scenario.
2. In the heat of battle, it is always useful to hit pause... zoom in and pin
out that single enemy frigate that is nearly dead and tell all ur close-by
units to finish it off. Boom, one less gun shooting at you.
3. Again, the pause key is your best friend. Use it from time to time to go
out into your sensor view, get an idea about what's happening in each of your
battles and switch plans accordingly.
4. No, this is not cheap-play. Remember, you are dealing with a CPU opponent
that 1) cheats (sees all your units all the time) 2) Can multitask so much
better than you can that the 30 secs you spend in pause mode while planning is
nothing 3) has no unit cap (you heard me. While you're limited to 2 BCs, the
Veygr can have as many as 8)
5. If things are really hot, and you notice that a certain unit type is getting
reduced on regular basis, try to fill the production queue on all your
production ships with that unit. This is to help keep your fleet at max unit
per type at all times.
6. The above rule has a very interesting (and useful) side effect. HW2 unit
production is designed to automatically pause if the unit being producded has
been completed by another production ship and has reached its unit cap. So
basically, if a similar unit gets destroyed... you already have a replacement
that is nearly ready!!! Imagine the amount of frustration of your enemy when
(just as he succeeds in killing one of your destroyers) he sees a replacement
emerge within seconds!
7. Remeber to always pause the game, go back to your production site and bring
all the newly made units to the frontlines.
8. Unlike in HW, HW2 allows you to move your MS! This is a major advantage
because you are no longer forced to have two fronts whenever the AI decides to
get smart and attacks your MS. As you will see in the individual missions, I
personally generally recommend setting your MS on a course towards the mission
objective as soon as the mission starts. Moreover, by keeping both your MS and
carriers at the frontlines, you can constantly replenish your forces without
the need to wait a long time before those newly born units move up to the
battlefield.
NOTE There are certain situations where this may not be a good idea. For
instance, you may not want the MS to move right in the middle of a BC fight
because (unlike losing a BC) losing your MS ends the game!
9. The AI will always attempt to harvest the resources available in the level
(However, I do question the fact whether the AI really needs them. Given the
cheating nature of HW2's AI, I wouldn't be surprised if it can build units
infinitely). It is in your best interest to cut the AI off by ruining all his
attempts at it (seek out and distroy all his harvesters, refinaries and
carriers)
Note I will use asterisks () to rate the level of difficulty for each
mission. 5 being the hardest in the game (which means that to the average gamer
it is EXTREMELY difficult)
Nothing much to say. They are basically holding your hand through it. However,
here are some recommendations
You may need to replay this one a couple of times to get the hang of it. Here's
some tips on how to deal with the Veygr threat
FYI Saving all crew ships is possible and HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I would reload
my saved game the moment I would lose any, simply because it is really worth
it. Saving the 5th and 6th crew ships causes an Elite gunship and an elite
bomber groups to launch from the MS. They pack a punch and live longer than
their normal counterparts (plus it is a matter of pride! lol)
1. NOTE each supply ship will be attacked ONLY ONCE. Meaning, once the
attackers of any of the ships are removed (triggering fleet intel to announce
that it is safe), that one ship will not be attacked by any additional
reinforcements.
2. TACTIC It is much harder for fighters to hurt an enemy fighter group once
it has been reduced to 1 or 2 units only. As such, it is best to go for
attacking bomber groups when they are complete. Once reduced (thus becoming
much less of a threat to the crew ship), turn towards enemy fighters.
Otherwise, if you were to completely ignore the fighters, by the time you move
on to defend the next ship your fighters would have suffered heavy losses at
the hands of the Veygr's.
3. Enemy forces are attacking the supply ship closest to you. send everything
you have to it.
4. Once done, send your bombers (and one fighter group for support) towards the
carrier in the middle of the map and have them knock down the fighter facility.
Have the other fighters move on to the supply ship further ahead.
NOTE the carrier in this mission will NOT rebuild the fighter facility. You
don't have to worry about that once it's down.
6. Enemy frigs jump into the fray. This is your cue to move away your fighters
(otherwise they'll be shredded tres-rapide).
7. Once Captain Soban arrives, begin preparing for the next mission. If you're
the paranoid type, you may have your bombers remove the carrier engines (making
it a sitting duck).
NOTE IMO, this should be the last time you would ever have ceptors. Retire
all of them and use the resulting RUs to make bombers and gunships. one-to-one
ratio is ok
8. Mission ends once the last crew ship docks with the MS.
Mission 3, Sarum ()
----------------------
Having completed mission 2 as described, you'll arrive into this one with a
force capable of keeping it very well under control. Try to max them out during
the course of the mission through gathering some of the nearby RUs.
There is two ways to do this mission. I rated it as 4 stars based on only one
of the two methods (the other is more like 3 stars).
Here's the deal, you are supposed to destroy that huge starbase that is very
far from your starting position. To do so, you are expected to kill the three
groups of Hyperspace inhibitors. Thus allowing the MS to perform a tactical
jump bringing it (along with your fleet) VERY close to the starbase.
A very large fleet is sitting just around the spot where your MS will
materialize. I have attempted this before and I can assure you that doing the
mission like this is a HUGE mistake. You may be able to survive the onslaught,
but your losses will be so severe that you might as well pack up and leave
anyways!
Moreover, you will discover 3 jump gates near each of the inhibitor sites. They
all lead to a spot where a Veygr Destroyr is sitting waiting to be captured.
Going through the tactical jump sequence before doing so causes that D along
with her escorts to completely disappear from the map.
- METHOD 2 (my recommendation)
1. There are two Veygr carriers patroling the routes between each of the
inhibitor sites. Locate them with a scout then clean them out.
2. Capture one of the enemy jump gates (not all, for doing so makes them a
target for the AI and losing all of them at once may not be convenient for you.
3. Send a scout through it first, have it fly straight up above the enemy
forces (to avoid getting hammered) so as to provide recon.
4. Go in with fighters first, try and maneuver in such a way that forces the D
to turn away fromt he jump gates.
5. You will need at least 2 MFs to make a run for the D once it is looking
away. Chances are you will lose at least of of them.
After that the mission becomes a no-brainer. Just kill whatever you encounter
on your way to the starbase. Once there, wait until you have rebuilt your
forces to full power and then ruin her shit!
Mission 5, Gehenna ()
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Basically, the MS is standing in the middle of a dust patch. The patch forks
into three arms of dust clouds roughly going NE, N, and NW of the MS's starting
position. at the tip of each of the branches there is a garrison (basically,
just an assortment of Veygr ships) idling.
The idea is, if any of your units strays outside of the cloud, a count-down
from 1 minute begins and if complete before your ship(s) get back in the cloud,
all garrisons will move towards your MS simultaneously. Thus making your life
miserable.
There is one thing to keep in mind as well. Eliminating any two of the three
garrisons will trigger the third one (along with the forces surrounding the
dig-site itself) to attack you (i.e. the cloud stops making a difference. Odd!
since theoritically the cloud should continue to hide you even if the enemy is
alerted... but then we're forgetting that we're dealing with a cheating AI...
GRRRR)
I personally recommend dealing with the garrions at the NE and NW first. I say
that because in reality we are dealing with 4 garrisons, the 3 indicated ones
and the one defending the dig-site itself. Once the Veygr is alerted, the
garrison directly ahead of you will attack from the same direction as the
defenders will. This is good, because (say) if you were to kill the 2
right-most garrisons first, the third one will attack from the NW while the
defenders attack from the N, being attacked from 2 different vectors (ask any
military general) is a BAD THING.
If you have managed to capture the D from mission 4 it will really help in this
one. Once done with the defending groups, you will have a very quiet, safe
break where you can rebuild your forces. Once done, send a MF to the site and
grab The Oracle (whatever that is).
Here's the lowdown on this mission. I'll keep it simple and point-format
Mission 7, Derelicts ()
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This mission is relatively simple (if you do it right). You also should end up
with a HUGE amount of RUs after completing it, and with time to regroup and
rebuild to boot! There should be three enemy bases if you will. More on that
in the tactics section.
Movers are basically bombers (in the sense that they fire the same projectile
and they are not turret-based) but with the speed and maneuverability of a
vette. Their somewhat limited speed comes as an advantage, however. As it
allows your group of movers to annihilate a frigate in only one pass (they
aren't fast enough to pass by the frig before actually killing it). They also
have the special ability of being able to go through radiation clouds undamaged
(more on that later). The bottomline is, once they become available you should
immediately start having a full group of them (10) as they are extremely useful
and fairly durable and cheap.
Mission Tactics
As I mentioned earlier, this mission (with the following tactical info) will
prove to be a walk in the park (oddly enough, it can be a very difficult
mission otherwise). The enemy carriers will show up in three locations.
NOTE you will encounter one of those fleet intel messages that warn of a
probe. That probe will fly straight from the eastern side of the map westbound
and will eventually pass directly north of your MS. Just have a scout group
sitting somewhere along that path and you will be able to handle the probe.
The first carrier (and the most difficult to deal with due to it sitting in a
radiation cloud you cannot completely remove) shows up near the huge derelict
directly west of your starting point on the sensor map. I recommend simply to
ignore it till the end of the mission. Just make sure that you have some units
(I personally used my entire capship and frigate group) to watch for forces
coming out of that carrier and deal with them.
The second and third carriers appear conveniently close to each other.
Basically, the second carrier appears withint the cloud surrounding the tiny
derelict that is sitting by itself a short distance Northeast of your starting
point. While the third carrier is a short distance south of the second one.
The idea is, once you have your movers ready, go ahead and destroy that
derelict. That way, once that carrier arrives you'll already be expecting (and
seeing) it. proceed to immediately handle it with all your bombers and vettes
(to take care of its fighter escorts).
In the mean time, have your movers start working on the derelicts farther south
one by one. Note that you may encounter groups of 3 movers guarding some of the
derelicts. You should deal with them BEFORE destroying any such derelicts
(otherwise they may cost you a couple of your movers). Eventually, you will
expose the last carrier and by then your bomber and vette groups should have
been done with the 2nd one so just move on and assist your movers in taking
care of it.
The rest is easy, keep clearing off the radiation clouds (by destroying the
derelicts) until the way is clear enough for your Ds to take care of the first
carrier (about time) and then continue to clear the derelicts.
Note about the derelicts There are many more derelicts than the ones required
to end the mission. It is in your best interest to destroy as many of them as
possible since they leave behind RU patches when destroyed (thus maximizing
your RU collection at the end of the mission).
Try to leave one of the mission objective derelicts standing till the end (to
allow you to rebuild). Once done, kill it and mission successful!
This mission can be relatively hard if you didn't bring your whole fleet closer
to the hulk. Basically, bring your MS and everyone else towards it, this makes
the trip very short for your movers to bring the DN to dock with the MS.
special briefing, THE KEEPER (aka that piece of shit mofo ship that looks like
it has eyes and a mouth)
-The Keeper(tm) is pretty much invulnerable. He has a (kinda like) Ion beam
turret plus golden coloured pulsars that cause some serious damage to anything
it touches. He also releases (periodically) a band of little drones that are
very tough to kill and cause bomber-type damage. The only way to deal with it
is to keep the drones busy (or kill them) while continuously repairing your
capships from his damage.
Once the DN docks, just send your movers to the little debris patch North-East
of the 3 power generators. Just hang in there and finally the game will allow
you to salvage the 3 pieces. Try to have more than one mover targeting each
piece (that way, if one dies another will countinue the journy right away).
Have fighters cover the mover group and soon the mission with be over.
IMO, this is the most difficult mission in this game. Everything here has been
setup in such a way as to give you a control-nightmare (in a RTS, this happens
when you have to handle too many tasks at the same time while each of them
requires a great level of attention by itself).
The mission starts with a minor clash with a couple of Ds and their escorts.
You then have to wait until the Shipyard Nabaal joins you (and yes, it will
henceforth become part of your fleet) and then have it complete repairs of your
newly acquired DN. Once done you are required to eliminate the enemy forces.
Basically, you are surrounded by carriers and jump-gates that keep spewing
fighters and frigs at you. They have been specifically placed in opposite parts
of the map to make it as hard as possible to deal with each of them (since you
would be moving away from each of them when trying to nail another).
Also, a number of Ds (and eventually a BC) will be happy to join the fray as
well. the key here is to play the mission one time and find out exactly where
the Shipyard appears and then restart then tell your fleet to move towards that
location immediately when the mission starts. That way, once they start
attacking you will be sitting there waiting (instead of having to divide your
forces).
The way i did it (aside from what I said above) is that I had my main force
protecting my concentration while a special task force (a couple of Ds) goes
around and tries to eliminate each of the enemy threats. I used the bombers to
take care of the jump gates once they became visible as well.
NOTE leave one jump-gate alive to postpone the end of the mission (when no one
else is standing) so as to have a breather and rebuild before moving on.
This is a true survival mission. Meaning, you are faced with a power that is
infinitely superior to you, you have no means of stopping it and the only thing
you can do is stay alive while the clock ticks!
Anyways, all I can recommend is, make sure your slow-ass shipyard moves ahead
with your fleet. all of you sit by Bentus and wait. Make sure your harvesters
are hard at work repairing your big guys. Basically the only measure of how
good you finish this level is by calculating how many RUs did you spend
replacing stuff.
Ok, the three core fragments are shown on sensors view. Don't worry too much
about retrieving them before disposing of the enemy forces first. There will be
three enemy bases if you will that are close to each of the 3 fragments.
Mission Tactics
-Ignore sending a probe. Instead move your entire fleet towards the fragment
closest to the right edge of the map (assuming you are looking at the 3
fragments with the MS being at the bottom of the screen).
-Once you're close enough, you will trigger the scripted event and soon enemy
forces will emerge from hyperspace. Try to go through them from right to left
and eventually you will have cleaned the map off of them.
NOTE be careful in navigating your fleet as they will stupidly pass through
the radiation patches (the ones surrounding the fragments) if they lie in their
way.
-Once done, replenish your forces and prepare to capture the fragments.
The way I did it (possibly the easiest way) requires careful micromanagement
including extensive use of the pause key. It will guarantee success without
losing any units in the process.
Bring a harvester and a DFF within close range to each of the cores. Have the
DFF move as close as possible to the fragment without being within radiation
range. Once done, set the harvester in such a way that forces it to pass right
by the DFF while on course to grab the fragment and then send it to do so.
The moment the harvester is just about to cross the DFF, turn on the DF and
order the the DFF to move closer to the fragment. Stop once you realize (using
the sensor view) that the fragment is well into the DF (i.e. deep enough within
it to guarantee that the harvester will not move out of the DF while
maneuvering to grab it).
Once the harvester touches the fragment, Order the DFF to move away. However,
order it to stop once it has turned away (don't allow it to start moving away
and put the harvester in danger). By now the harvester should be starting to
move towards the MS, order the DFF in the same direction and in the worst case
the DF will run out in time for your DFF to barely be scratched by the
radiation. Repeat the process for the other fragments, and you're home free!
Mission Tactics
-This is a mission that (IMHO) emphasizes the advantages of moving your entire
fleet ahead (including your MS). Set your MS, carriers, and shipyard on course
to the resource patch straight ahead the moment the game starts. Make sure your
capships are all in formation and moving together with your frigs in close
persuit.
-Ensure that your MS queue is full of Ds and your shipyard queue has a couple
of BCs (although I would consider it a huge shame if you were to lose a BC in
this mission). All your carrier queues should be bogged with frigs and
bombersvettes
-You may send your bomber and vettemover group ahead to create an earlier
encounter. This will (in the least) give you an idea about the locations of
your next enemy. Preferably, have your single scout group pass high and far
ahead of your frontline to have an early warning of incoming ships at all
times.
-By the time your main force reaches the resource patch, you will probably be
just about to encounter the main Vaygr BC force. Remember, concentrate all your
fire on one at a time. Make sure your harvesters are on repair. Good luck.
-Once you make it through those guys, you will shortly watch the Makaan
Sequence. He prompts his forces to go for your MS. However, by now your MS
should be so close behind you that defending it will only be a brief
interruption.
-When done, it is now time to ruin the Veygr's life (by killing all their silly
Shipyards). There are 3 of them as far as I know (excluding Makaan). One should
be in close proximity to the station. One slightly farther and to the right of
it. And finally, there is one that is a good distance beyond the station and to
the left. The Veygr will continue to build Ds and BCs to stop you. Make sure
you eliminate all shipyards.
-This is it. You now have a chance to rebuild and regroup. Make sure you have
repaired and rebuilt all your capships and frigs before sending the MF to save
Captain Soban. You may want to keep your vette group close to the station as it
is able to (and will) build fighter squads. Once done, grab Soban and that's
it!!!
What makes this mission difficult is that it begins with the power generators
already under attack (i.e. the attacking forces are already in position and
firing as you emerge from hyperspace).
Between you and them lies what may be the highest concentration of enemy
vessels ever witnessed (including a set of around 5 BCs!!!). There is also a
Shipyard and possibly a couple of carriers (and again, the usual assortment of
Ds and frigs).
Mission Tactics
The method that worked best for me was to select one power generator (the top
one in my case) and place all my hopes on it. Send all your fightervette class
ships there and have them systematically terminate the ships that will continue
to fire at the generators (yes, some of them will turn to try and kill your
fighters and vettes). Continue to send in your newly made replacements (you
will be continously losing some since some of the attackers are assault
frigates).
On the other hand, move your main force towards the shipyard. Make sure once
you encounter that huge group of BCs to concentrate your fire on one at a time.
Veygr BCs tend to love smoking your frigates first (a very good thing, since
you should have about 20 of them, which will take a long time to take care of
while you continue to pound those BCs). Once one generator survives and you
finish off the shipyard it will be over.
NOTE This mission tends to end abruptly (i.e. when you're not expecting it) so
try to ensure that your BCs survive at all times.
This mission is fairly simple in the sense that you will get a chance to
regroup before it is over. You begin by taking care of a welcoming party
consisting of a bunch of Ds and frigs right ahead. Once done with that there is
also a small task force coming in from the west-top of your MS starting
position. If you were to follow that direction with a scout you will discover a
shipyard, 2 carriers and various defences. Take them down and you may now rest
and rebuild.
Make sure you are back in full power before going after Makaan. He has a couple
of BCs and a DN to boot (plus your usual assortment of Ds and frigs). Chances
are you will have no issues disposing of them. Mission Complete.
Abilities to note
-It is capable of performing Hyperspace jumps (yes, you can teleport to
wherever you wish instantly... well... almost at least)
-The main Phase Array Cannon has such a long range that you may fire it at
targets that are (by AI standards) out of range of detection.
-Sajuuk has a pair of what you can think of as pulsar cannons but they pack
such a serious punch that they may toast a BC within less than a minute (yes,
without using the main cannon at all)
Mission Tactics
Begin by moving your entire force towards the front lines. I personally use the
attack-move command so as to allow my forces to engage whomever they find while
I concentrated on using Sajuuk to smoke the capships from behind (heheh)
Shortly after, you will watch the sequence where the Planet Killers arrive.
They are huge, Octopus-looking things that fire missiles that supposedly
destroy a planet's atmosphere, and consequently resulting in mass-extermination
of the inhabitants. I have not yet attempted attacking them with conventional
weaponry so I cannot confirm or deny fleet intel's claim that they are
invulnerable to such weapons. The missiles - however - are very easy to kill.
Note that they are faster than corvette class ships so do not attempt to
chase them with such units.
I have finished this mission twice, once with no missile impacts and once with
a single one making it. I have not seen any indication of the game punishing
you for the slip-up.
For fun, I have allowed the missiles to go through and if I remember correctly
it took about 6 of them to exterminate the Higaarans (and thus losing the
mission)
Once the Planet Killers arrive, I continued to pound the enemy capships with
Sajuuk. In the mean time, move your bomber team to an intercept position of one
of the side Planet Killers and your vette team to the other. Continue to
dispose of the missiles as they come in range. be careful not to have your
units get busy fighting off enemy units and forgetting the missiles. The
missiles coming in from the middle will be taken out by your main force if you
have been following my lead.
Sajuuk has such a huge reach that if you were to jump right in the middle of 2
planet killers, you will be able to finish off one and immidiately start on the
other without any significant moving (except for the time it takes to turn
around)
When done, jump in position to shoot the 3rd one then mission accomplished!!
GAME OVER
Final Thoughts
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Did I like HW2 Hmmm... I would probably say that HW1 (with HW2's engine) would
have been more fun. I am not sure why, but I feel as if in the effort of
maximizing the strategic part of HW2, they have lost some of the fun of HW1.
Was it much different from HW1 Not really... It is prettier for sure (I
reinstalled HW1 just for fun... loaded the game and was horrified lol). But the
game itself is essentially the same (albeit somewhat bigger scale). Lots of
annoyances from the original game have been eliminated which is good. Overall,
it is a fun, intense experience that I recommend to any hardcore RTS gamer.