ES10883-Should we move from 2D detailing to 3D

detailing for Reinforced Detailing?

Gareth Spencer
BIM Consultant – Graitec UK
@AEC360Solutions

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Class summary

In this class we’re going to look at detailing reinforcement

in concrete structures and moving from the traditional
method of 2D detailing to 3D detailing approach using
Autodesk, Inc., software.

We will take a look at the comprehensive tools in Revit

Structure software, and some third-party tools, to help
accelerate the design and detailing of reinforced concrete
structures.
Key learning objectives

At the end of this class, you will be able to:

Explore the capabilities of detailing reinforce concrete in Revit Structure.

Understand the concept of creating a fully detailed 3D reinforcement
concrete model.

See how you can experience your reinforcement design and detailing
before it’s built.

On conclusion of this class, attendees should have a better understanding
of basic reinforcement detailing tools in Revit.
Class Notes & Power Point

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Class Handout.

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Class ID: ES10883
Should we move from 2D detailing to 3D detailing for
Reinforced Detailing?
Quick Poll
Poll:

Where are you from?

USA.

Europe.

Asia.
What is your job role?

Engineer.

CAD/BIM Manager

Technician or Drafter.

Architect. (What you doing in this class?)

What do you currently use to detail RC?

Hand Drawings.

CAD or other forms 2d detailing?

Any form of 3d detailing but not in Revit?

Autodesk Revit?
From the Beginning!
Where it all started

In 1853 Francois Coignet a French industrialist in the nineteenth century,

was the first to use iron-reinforced concrete as a technique for
constructing building structures. He built the first four story house at 72
rue Charles Michels in the suburbs of Paris, from iron reinforced concrete.
Then in 1854 English builder William B. Wilkinson reinforced the concrete
roof and floors in the two-storey house he was constructing, which
demonstrate his knowledge of tensile stresses.

(Information sourced from wikipedia.org)

Pencil Pen Drawing Board
Drawing Board CAD

Move from pencils, pens and drawing boards to CAD

Why?

Because you had to?

Because you wanted to?

No reason just because.

To help increase the productivity.

Maybe even the quality of design.

Speed: Produce drawings faster.

Efficiency: Make designer/drafters more efficient?
Current Path
Outcome

Did it improve the way you work?

By increasing the productivity?

Quality of design?

Speed?

Efficiency, by making the designers/drafter more efficient?

Did it open new doors???

Or did you just continue doing what you always done?

CAD

Pros Cons

Can be more accurate than
Slower??

hand-drawn drawings.

Automate the process.

Faster???

Easier and quicker to edit.

Reduce human error(s).

Cost software and
hardware.

Staff need training.
Typical AutoCAD Drawing
CAD Next Level

Autodesk Software

3rd Party CAD software

Bentley
MultiSUITE PowerRebar CADS RC
Disclaimer: Other 3rd party software are available
What Next?
BIM

"BIM is an ever evolving concept,

with a wide variety of definitions and
implementation variations”
 But still detail
Reinforcement in
2D in CAD.

BIM
(3D Modelling)
 2D 3D
Reinforcement Reinforcement
Detailing Detailing
 “If you do what you've always done,
you'll get what you've always gotten.”
3D Rebar Modelling

Reinforced Concrete Standards.

BS EN 1992-2 BS 8666:2005

BS:8110:1/2/3
Disclaimer: Please note other standards may apply in countries.
British and European standards shown for example.
3D Rebar Modelling

Reinforced Concrete in Revit.

Why?

Because Revit has built-in rebar capability

Can it be done?

Yes but only over the last few years

What real benefits does it have?

Can produce a fully detailed reinforced concrete model and
produce 2d drawings and bar bending schedule for fabrication
3D Rebar Modelling
3D Model built in Revit 2D RC Drawings in AutoCAD
History of Reinforcement in Revit

Added in Revit 2006 as an extension add-in for subscription

users only. (Revit version 8 or 9)

Wasn’t really usable until Revit 2014. As you couldn’t
schedule the bending radius correctly.

From 2013 onwards it’s gone from strength to strength.

3rd party add-on’s such as Dynamo, Graitec PowerPack for
Revit.

Disclaimer: Please note the information gathered may not be

correct as its only from Google search results
Let’s take a look at Rebar in Revit?

Disclaimer: Please note that I will be demonstrating using Autodesk

Revit 2016 and some functionality may not be available in other versions.
 2016

Graitec Advanced PowerPack for Autodesk® Revit® 2016 the brand new ‘Productivity Pack
for Autodesk Revit software.

If you are already a get your subscriptions through Graitec this is FREE to all Graitec
customers. You need to have an active subscription with us to use these tools.
Find out more.

Graitec Advanced PowerPack for Revit

Or visit the Graitec website for Graitec Ltd YouTube channel

more information. Advance PowerPack for Autodesk
www.graitec.com Revit Playlists.
Dynamo for Revit

For more information on Dynamo type the following

link into a search engine: http://dynamobim.com/

Its all open source and totally FREE.

Final Comments

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Changes Can Make

BIG
Differences
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Questions

Contact Details:

Gareth Spencer
BIM Consultant
gareth.spencer@graitec.co.uk

@AEC360Solutions

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