2017 PEMNA PLENARY CONFERENCE

Public Expenditure on Education - Upgrading Human Capital in

Addressing Poverty and Inequality Issues
May 8-10, 2017 l Denpasar, Indonesia
(Draft as of May 54, 2017)
Day 1 (May 8, 2017)
(Location: Mangupura RoomHall)
Time Topics and Activity Notes / Location
08:00 – 08:30 Registration
Opening Session
Welcoming Remarks I
Dr. Marwanto Harjowiryono
Director General of Treasury,
Directorate General of Treasury, Indonesia
Welcoming Remarks II
Mr. Seung Chul Lee
Director General for Fiscal Management,
08:30 – Ministry of Strategy and Finance, Republic of Korea
09:1500
Welcoming Remarks III
Ms Joyce MsuyaMr. Rodrigo Chaves
Special RepresentativeCountry Director,
World Bank Korea Office,
The World Bank
Ms Rolande Simone PryceMs. Joyce Msuya
Manager,Special Representative,
WWorld Bank Korea Indonesia Office,
The World Bank
Keynote Speech
09:1500 – Theme: Public Financial Management Reform in
10:0030 Indonesia: Experience and Way Forward
H.E. Sri Mulyani IndrawatiMardiasmo
Vice Minister of Finance, Indonesia
10:030 –
Photo Session (Location: TBA)
10:3045
10:4530 – (Location: Exhibition
Coffee Break
101:4500 HallMangupura Foyer)
10:451:00 – Joint Session 1 Keywords:
12:30  Macroeconomic implication of
Topic: Improving Budget Allocation and Connecting education budget
Spending Review on Education
 How to allocate education budget
Speaker: (Indonesia case it is 20 percent of
total spending that being
1. Mr. Purwiyanto
mandatory for education)
Assistant of the Minister of Finance for Public Expenditure ,
Ministry of Finance, Indonesia  MoF roles in allocating education
spending
 How to balance trade-offs between

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 2. Dr. Marwanto Harjowiryono
Director General of Treasury,
Directorate General of Treasury, Indonesia education and other sectors
 Implementation, evaluation and
3. Dr. Ir. SubandiHadiat, MA audit (end to end process)
Deputy Minister of Human, Society and Cultural  T-Cop: Spending review by
DevelopmentDirector of Education and Religion, Treasury will focus on operational
National Planning Agency (BAPPENAS), Indonesia efficiency rather than allocative
Questions and Answers efficiency. The review will be used
by Budget unit as a feedback for
Moderator: the next budget allocation
Mr. Bernard Myers
B-CoP Facilitator / Senior Public Sector Specialist,
The World Bank
12:30 – 14:00 Lunch (Location: TBAExhibition Hall)
Key issues:
Joint Session 2  How much do countries spend on
Topic: Enhancing Efficiency and Effectiveness of Public education (as % of GDP, as % of
Spending on Education: International Trends budget, per student)? How does
one determine the right level?
Speaker: What are the trends in education
spending across the region?
1. Resource person:
Mr. Lars Sondergaard (online connection)  How is money allocated to the
Program Leader, sector? From what sources? To
whom?
Poverty and Human Development, East Asia and Pacific,
 What is the correlation between
14:00 – 15:30 The World Bank
education spending and quality of
2. Mr. Joung Jin Jang outcomes? What do we know
Director, about how to improve learning
Feasibility Study Division, outcomes?
Ministry of Strategy and Finance, Republic of Korea
 What should we be measuring –
Questions and Answers beyond test scores -- to assess
Moderator: sector performance?
Dr. Kunta Nugraha  What are the key cost drivers in
Director of Budget Formulation, the sector? What is their
relevance/impact on educational
Directorate General of Budget, Indonesia
outcomes?
(Location: Mangupura
15:30 – 16:00 Coffee Break
FoyerExhibition Hall)
16:00 – 17:30 Joint Session 3 Key issues:
 What are the challenges Ministry
Topic: Streamlining Public Expenditure Mechanisms of of Education has executing their
government financial assistance on Education to improve budget (whether it is through
budget execution and reporting grants or special funds)? What
Speaker: would they like to change with
1. Ir. Fahturahman, M.EdDr. Ir. Suharti respect to flow of funds? How
Head of Planning and Foreign Affairs BureauHead of does the Ministry disburse
Budgeting Program Planning, government financial assistance
Ministry of Education and Culture, Indonesia especially for Education?
2. Mr. Mohd Sakeri Abdul Kadir  How does the government of
Deputy Budget Director, Malaysia provide funds for
National Budget Office, education? What are the various

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 Ministry of Finance Malaysia roles of the Ministry of Finance
3. Mr. Isaku Endo and the Ministry of Education
Senior Financial Sector Specialist, regarding the allocation, flow of
The World Bank funds, and reporting on results in
the education sector?
Questions and Answers
 What are some of the ways to
Moderator: manage the distribution of
Ms. Leah April government assistance (including
T-CoP Facilitator /Senior Public Sector Management Specialist education payments) through
The World Bank electronic payment mechanisms?

19:00 – 21:00 Welcoming Dinner hosted by DG Treasury (Location: Summer Garden)

Day 2 (May 9, 2017)

I. Budget CoP Agenda
(Location: Hibiscus & Fraingipani Room)
Time Topics and Activity Notes / Location
08:30 – 09:00 Registration
 Official welcome to the participants and
review of the agenda
09:00 – 09:15 Introduction Session  B-CoP Chair and Facilitator will provide
brief summary overview of the program
format and objectives
09:15 – 10:45 Key issues:
Session 1
 What country examples are there of public
Topic: Integrating spending reviews into the
expenditure reviews for Education?
budgeting process on education for improved
service delivery and outcomes  How can personnel costs be managed
efficiently? What are the roles of different
Speaker: institutions in controlling costs??
1. Resource person:  What types of data analysis can be used to
Mr. William Dorotinsky understand efficiency for the sector and
Acting Director, across regions?
Governance & Public Sector Management Practice,
The World Bank
2. Myanmar
Ms. San San Oo
Director,
Budget Department,
Ministry of Planning and Finance
3. Cambodia
Mr. Rithipol Phenh
Deputy Director,
General Department of Budget,
Ministry of Economy and Finance
Moderator:
Mr. Mohd Sakeri Abdul Kadir
Deputy Budget Director,
National Budget Office,

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 Ministry of Finance Malaysia

10:45 – 11:00 Coffee Break (Location: Hibiscus & Frangipani Foyer)

Key issues:
Session 2
 How are funds transferred to the sector by
Topic: The relationship between central and local
central government?
governments in the Education sector
 How does the transfer mechanism address
Speakers: equity across regions/districts?
1. Republic of Korea  How flexible are the financial management
Dr. Hyun-A Kim regulations that govern the transfers to
Senior Economist, local governments and/or schools?
Korea Institute of Public Finance (KIPF)
 How much autonomy is given to local
2. Philippines governments and/or schools to determine
11:00 – 12:10 (1) Ms. Benjieleth Zuniga the best use of funds and/or staffing?
Supervising Budget and Management Specialist,  How is capital spending managed?
Department of Budget and Management
(2) Ms. Ruby Esteban
Director IV,
Department of Budget and Management
Moderator:
Dr. John M. Kim
Head of PEMNA Secretariat,
Korea Institute of Public Finance (KIPF)
12:10 – 13:30 Lunch (Location: Exhibition HallTBA)
Key Issues:
Session 3
 What are the financial and non-financial
Topic: Monitoring and Reporting on Sector
reporting requirements? How is data
Performance
managed/consolidated by the central
Speakers: government?
Malaysia  What incentives/tools do central
13:30 – 14:30 Ms. Tengku Nurul Azian Tengku Shahriman governments have to get better reporting?
Executive Vice President,  What formats/types of data are most
PEMANDU, Malaysia essential to know to improve efficiency?
Moderator:  What access to data and/or reporting is
Mr. Bernard Myers provided to civil society organizations?
B-CoP Facilitator / Senior Public Sector Specialist,
The World Bank
14:30 – 14:45 Coffee Break (Location: Hibiscus & Frangipani Foyer)
14:45 – 16:15 Session 4 Key issues:
Topic: Fiscal Incidence Analysis: Assessing the  What types of social assistance programs
effectiveness of pro-poor budget allocation in are helpful to assure that children from
addressing poverty and inequality poor families have access to education?
Speakers:  How do the benefits/funds get distributed
1. Resource persons: (e.g., through schools, individuals, other)?
(1) Ms. Vivi Alatas  How effective are the different types of

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 Lead Economist, promote social inclusion and access to
The World Bank education?
(2) Mr. Imam Setiawan  What are the accountability mechanisms
Lead Economist, within the sector for use of the funds?
The World Bank
2. Vietnam
Ms. Nguyen Thi Hai Ha
Deputy Head of Division,
State Budget Department, Ministry of Finance
3. Thailand
(1) Ms. Narumon Boonthai
Senior Budget Analyst,
Bureau of the Budget
(2) Ms. Jirapatra Chiupricha
Senior Budget Analyst,
Bureau of the Budget
Moderator:
Mr. William Dorotinsky
Acting Director,
Governance & Public Sector Management Practice,
The World Bank
Session 5
16:15 – :17:00
Group Discussion

17:00 – 18:00 B-CoP Leadership Team Meeting - Closed Session (Location: TBABali Room)

(Location: Jimbaran Bali TBA)(Location:

19:00 –21:00 Dinner hosted by DG Budget (Location: TBA)
Summer Garden)

Day 2 (May 9, 2017)

II. Treasury CoP Agenda
(Location: Bougainville & Orchid Room)
Time Topics and Activity Notes / Location
08:30 – 09:00 Registration

Topic: Ensuring Adequate Funds Flow for Achieving Better Social Outcomes in the Education Sector

Session 1  Official welcome to the participants and

09:00 – 09:15 review of the agenda
Introduction Session
 T-CoP Chair and Facilitator will provide
 Context, Goal, and Agenda brief summary overview of the program
 Introduction of Resource Persons format and objectives
09:15 – 12:00  Moderated Roundtable Discussion
Session 2
(incl. 30 min  The World Bank Expert and each of the
coffee break) Facilitated Round Table Discussion four countries give a brief introduction of
 Setting the Stage: Overview of regional and global their case (5 slides)
trends in Education Financing by World Bank  4 countries (Indonesia, the Philippines,
Cambodia, and Malaysia) and the

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 Expert (Q&A) international advisors will share their
experiences, challenges in how they
Mr. Rajeev K. Swami
manage education budgets and special
Lead Financial Management Specialist,
funds; funds flow; electronic recipient
The World Bank
payments; reporting and accounting.
 PEMNA Country Cases  The World Bank Advisor will share global
1. Indonesia trends and identify common challenges
Mr. Mokhamad Mahdum and possible solutions.
Director,
Education Fund Management Institution  Q&A
2. Philippines
Ms. Sharon Almanza
Deputy Treasurer of the Philippines,
Bureau of the Treasury
3. Cambodia
Mr. Vichet Suon
Deputy Director General, GDNT,
Ministry of Economy and Finance
4. Malaysia
Mrs. Maslina Kamarudin
Deputy Director,
Central Operation and Agency Services Division,
Accountant General's Department, MOF

Moderator: T-CoP Chair and Facilitator

12:00 – 13:30 Lunch (Location: Exhibition Hall)(Location: TBA)

Session 3  Based on interactive discussions countries

Identify Issues for Group work and form Groups will break into discussion groups to further
13:30 – 13:45  Brainstorm Issues examine key challenges and develop
 Select 4-6 to work on strategies

Session 4  Each group digs into its own issue

Solution groups:
13:45 – 15:30  Discussion in groups to further examine key
challenges and propose solutions
 Groups start their work: negotiate understanding
of issue and agree on a process
 Resource person will be with each group to
respond to questions / issues
 1 Resource person will be with each group
to respond to questions / issues

15:30 – 15:45 Coffee Break (Location: Bougainville & Orchid Foyer)

 Brief summaries (2-3 min)

 Each work group provides the key
Session 5 highlights from their work plan
15:45 – 16:00 Group Work Reports  Guidelines will be provided by the
What have we learned? What are we going to do? resource person
 1 Resource person will be with each group
to respond to questions / issues

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 Session 6  Country teams are invited to discuss
16:00 – 16:45 Country Strategy briefly how they want to participate in
What piece of work or experiment should our country work-group plans / invitations
take part in?
Session 7  Country Work Plans Consolidate
16:45 – 17:00
Follow Up from March T-CoP Bangkok Meeting  Group-Work Plans

T-CoP Leadership Team Meeting - Closed Sessionn

17:00 –18:00 (Location: Nusa Dua Room)
(Location: TBA)

19:00 – Dinner hosted by DG Budget (Location: TBAJimbaran Bali)

Day 3 (May 10, 2017)

Time Topics and Activity Notes / Location

– 08:00 Departure from the Hotel Gather at the lobby by 07:30

Community Building Activity

09:00 – 11:00 (Location: Gianyar area)
(Location: Gianyar area)

PEMNA Steering Committee Meeting (Closed Session)

11:30 – 12:30 (Location: Gianyar area)
(Location:Gianyar area)

Joint Wrap-Up Session

- Evaluation Survey
12:30 – 13:00 (Location: Gianyar area)
- Reflections on the 2017 Plenary Conference
- Announcements from the SC Meeting

13:00 – 14:30 Lunch

14:30 – 16:30 Community Building Activity (cont.) (Location: Denpasar)

16:30 – Head back to the Hotel