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thirumalaichettiar Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:28 pm Post subject:

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Dear Er.Jeyakumar,
Checked your pile cap model in STAAD. My comments:
1. There is an instability problem at one of the piles i.e at 237 node.
2. You asssumed the piles as a hinged support but it should be with Kh & Kv the vertical and
horizontal spring supports using spring constants.
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 3. The pile cap is fully supported on soil in addition to the piles in reality. Hence I feel it is better to
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assign at all node the spring support using modulus of subgrade reaction as is being done for a
mAT.

I WILL CHECK MY FILES AND WILL ADD MORE.

Why do not you try with SAFE software which is better than STAAD for foundation.

Check fro m your side.

T.RangaRajan.

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thirumalaichettiar Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:05 am Post subject:

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Dear Er,Jeyakumar,
Pl.check the link in which I got some information on modeling of PILE cap using STAADPRO.

http://www.sefindia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7964&start=430

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thirumalaichettiar Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject:

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In continuation of my previous post please check the following additional information.

T.RangaRajan

Joined: 26 Jan 2003 pile model.jpg

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es_jayakumar Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:18 am Post subject:

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Sir,

AK Jain in his book "Reinforced Concrete Limit State Design" new edition p-481 proposes
spring stiffness AE/L, for end bearing pile, a simple formula, we all know. Can we take E value as
5000*sqrt(fck) ?
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thirumalaichettiar Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:20 am Post subject:

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es_jayakumar wrote:
Sir,

AK Jain in his book "Reinforced Concrete Limit State Design" new edition p-481 proposes
spring stiffness AE/L, for end bearing pile, a simple formula, we all know. Can we take E value
as 5000*sqrt(fck) ?
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 3459 E S Jayakumar

Dear Er.Jeyakumar,
If the pile is concrete you can use this formula which is given in IS 456 code depending on the
grade of concrete. For soil you can refer any soil mechanics book or the steel book by our guru
Dr.N.S. where it is given in the appendix.

The vertical stiffness of the pile can be taken as 20 diameter of pile.

The horizontal stiffness can be 10 % of the vertical stiffness.
The above values are for your information .
T.RangaRajan.

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es_jayakumar Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:41 am Post subject:

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The spring stiffness value, if taken into consideration, will help to even out the reactions on the
piles, whether located near to or away from the column (piles of same dia). As an analogy, if we
symmetrically place a stiff rectangular block on a number of springs of same stiffness arranged in
symmetry and apply concentric load, all the loads on the individual springs will be the same. This is
because, due to symmetrical placing, all the springs will undergo same amount of deflection (
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 compatibility of deflection). Now, the load taken by a spring = Stiffness x Deflection. Since the
Posts: 1185 stiffness is also same, the load borne will be the same for all the springs. This may not work good
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es_jayakumar Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:01 am Post subject:

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thirumalaichettiar wrote:

es_jayakumar wrote:
Sir,

AK Jain in his book "Reinforced Concrete Limit State Design" new edition p-
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
481 proposes spring stiffness AE/L, for end bearing pile, a simple formula, we all
Posts: 1185 know. Can we take E value as 5000*sqrt(fck) ?
Location: Cochin
E S Jayakumar

Dear Er.Jeyakumar,
If the pile is concrete you can use this formula which is given in IS 456 code depending
on the grade of concrete. For soil you can refer any soil mechanics book or the steel
book by our guru Dr.N.S. where it is given in the appendix.

The vertical stiffness of the pile can be taken as 20 diameter of pile.

The horizontal stiffness can be 10 % of the vertical stiffness.
The above values are for your information .
T.RangaRajan.

Sirs,
How to work out the spring constant of an under-reamed pile in soft clay, in order to model it in
STAAD ? There is no end bearing and as such, we cannot take the stiffness of the concrete pile as
the spring constant. Friction of the stem and bearing of the bulb alone may determine the spring
constant in this case. Maximum permissible settlement = 12mm.

Regards,
E S Jayakumar

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es_jayakumar Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:49 am Post subject:

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The stiffness, as obtained from one source is AE/2L for friction cum end bearing pile. Any
comments please ?

E S Jayakumar

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es_jayakumar Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:54 am Post subject:

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Dear Sefians,

How can we arrive at the spring constant of the under-reamed pile from load - settlement graph of
the pile load test, attached here ?

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E S Jayakumar

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Zia Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:02 pm Post subject: Pile Stiffness
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Dear E S Jayakumar,
Joined: 28 May 2015
Posts: 33 For pile-soil interaction please refer to Section 4.2 in Chapter 4 of Piling Engineering, 3rd Edition,
by Ken Fleming, Austin Weltman, Mark Randolph & Keith Elson.

Stiffness k = P/delta = = AE/L does not consider pile-soil interaction.

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Zia

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