Anti-Cancer Cellular Detox

Guest: Dr. Daniel Pompa

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Ryan Sternagel: Welcome back to The Anti-Cancer Revolution everyone. I am

Ryan Sternagel of The Stern Method and the Integrative Answers to Cancer
podcast.

And for this session of The Anti-Cancer Revolution we’re actually here live, in
person, I guess I should say.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: On location.

Ryan Sternagel: On location at Dr. Pompa’s Health Centers of the Future

Seminar. We’ve heard from a lot of incredible, actually this seminar is largely
focused on cancer.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah.

Ryan Sternagel: Quite a few of the speakers you’ve heard on this event are
here. [00:00:41] Tony Jimenez, Nathan Winters, David Wolfe. A lot of folks, I
guess we both think those are valuable people to be talking about cancer.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah.

Ryan Sternagel: But yeah, this is your event. It’s going quite well. But we
decided to snag you and just get the interview done here. Which is pretty neat.
That’s why it’s a little different than what you’ve been seeing everybody.

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But Dr. Pompa do you just want to fill everyone in on kind of the work you do
and that sort of thing?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. One of my greatest passions is teaching doctors my

detoxification process. Which we’ll discuss today. Because there’s a way to do
it correctly at the cell. And obviously, we talked a lot about that. And some of
these top doctors here are using this method that I teach.

So, my passion is training doctors in that. That’s what this seminars about.

So, yeah, my story is pain to purpose. I started as a functional chiropractor, if

you will, doing structural correction. And I evolved into more functional type of
a medicine and alternative things. Because I got very sick. So, my story is a
pain to purpose story.

I just became unexplainably ill. And I didn’t know what was wrong, right? The
fatigue. Went from that to anxiety. Panic attacks. Insomnia. Digestive issues
to where I literally became allergic to everything I was eating. I couldn’t figure
any of it out. And even more bizarre symptoms than that honestly.

But it led me to everything I teach today. So, from pain to purpose. I say, it
chose me, I didn’t choose it. That’s for sure.

That’s what I do. Now, doing these seminars is just bringing the message out.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. I never thought I would be conducting an interview

with you here today about cancer. Because my own son was diagnosed with
cancer, but like we talk about, the Lord works in mysterious ways type of
thing. A lot of beauty has come of it. You’re doing great work here.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Appreciate it.

Ryan Sternagel: That being said, the topic at hand is cancer. And like you
mentioned a lot of your work has to do with toxicity. I suppose you would just
want to give a general overview for folks of why someone going through cancer
should be really concerned with toxicity kind of from a cellular level, what’s
going on there.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. You heard a lot from so many of the scientists as
well as the practitioners, right? When we look at the causative factors of
cancer, every one of them talked about chemical stressors. Emotional
stressors and physical. Stress is stress to the body.

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But chemical stress is the one that most agencies and experts would say is
responsible for this massive rise in childhood cancers. We are talking about
67 percent from the 1950’s increase in childhood cancers.

Now they also pointed out that we’re not winning the battle in adult cancers
either. With earlier detection and all of the amazing technology that we have.
Why aren’t we winning this battle? And I believe and they believe that it’s the
toxic world that we’re around driving this illness at the cellular level.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. And can you maybe elaborate a little further on exactly
what is happening in the cell? Are these toxins hitting it from the outside? Are
they sticking around inside? What damage is it causing? How is it leading to
cancer?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. I don’t want to dig too deep into the biochemistry. I
even avoid that here. Often times with the doctors. Just teach us what to do to
get people well.

But look, I mean the toxins make their way in and around our cells. And the
membranes are fatty membranes. That are called lipid bilayers. Meaning made
of two layers of fat.

Toxins have an affinity for those membranes. That’s the problem because the
membrane is literally the intelligence of the cell. That’s not my opinion. I don’t
know if you’re interviewing Bruce Lipton. But he’s a brilliant stem cell
biologist. Amazing guy that talked about how the membrane of the cell even
determines the genes’ function.

So, it has the ability to turn good genes on and bad genes off, the cell
membrane. So, if we affect the cell membrane, ultimately, we’re affecting the
epigenetics of the cell.

Meaning we used to think, “Oh, these cancers were just genetic,” right?

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: You’ve got it, you’re unlucky, so to speak. We know now
it’s not like that. There’s some exceptions. However, most of them are
epigenetic. Meaning these genes are triggered.
So, then we have to ask the question, “What’s triggering the genes?” And what
the science shows it’s mostly these stressors, right? Especially, chemically
induced, right?

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So, when we look at a chemical BPA or a phthalate or anything that we know
can actually trigger cancer, it has the ability to turn on a gene, often times.
And then we start expressing those symptoms. Or it can turn a gene, even
your mitochondria where you make energy.

Which, by the way, and I’m sure you’ve had many experts talk about this. In
cancer we know now this is a metabolic issue. Meaning it’s effecting where you
make energy in the mitochondria.

So, even those mitochondria are half DNA. There can be biotoxins triggered,
turned on, and then it effects the function of the mitochondria.

And there was a gentleman all the way in the early 1900’s Otto Warburg, and
I’m sure you’ve probably heard or you will hear from some of the other
speakers. That this is the root of cancer. That the mitochondria, something
happens, and we’ll talk about that something, that it starts basically only
being able to utilize sugar instead of fat as an energy source. So, that’s unique
of a cancer cell. That it’s only using sugar.

And it’s going through this primitive glycolysis, glycolysis is when you take
sugar and make energy in the presence of oxygen. Which shouldn’t happen.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: So, okay, so the next question is, “What’s causing that?”
All the way back, I found something where Warburg actually said, he believes
it’s a toxin that’s effecting the cell membrane of the mitochondria. Which is
disrupting how it makes energy, and creating that problem.

And again, that was a theory. But I believe today, when we look at more
modern researchers, they’re finding what Otto found. That it is in fact the
mitochondria not using energy correctly.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: But also, that it’s being a toxin induced problem that’s
causing the mitochondria to have that issue.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. And that’s what were starting to talk about before we
were recording. A lot of people are getting really focused on the fact that it’s a
mitochondrial damage and that sort of thing. But I always want to know what
caused that damage?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Me too.

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Ryan Sternagel: Because if you’re just looking the metabolic approach, so to
speak, and not taking in glucose or something like that. You’re still not really
addressing what caused that issue in the first place.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. No doubt about it. People go to more fibers, plant-
based diets, move themselves into ketosis, which you can do on a plant-based
diet. Which is one of the favorite diets of a lot of the cancer researchers. Is that
you are putting someone in a ketotic state. Which we can talk about.

But I’ll make it really simply. You lower the carbohydrate intake, and it forces
the cells to use fat as energy. Cancer cells can’t do it. So, what it does it
makes the healthier cells healthier and it really stresses the cancer cells. And
it gives the immune system, or even other treatments a chance to actually
knock down the weak now cancer cells.

It’s a strategy. And we had one of the top scientists in the world talking about
that, actually two of them, talking about that state. So, plant-based diet, yes.
But lowering the carbohydrates low enough to force the cell to go into this fat
burning mode.

But yeah, you can do that dietarily. However, if you don’t go upstream to, your
point, and get to the toxic issue or the causative stress that caused this
problem in the cell in the first place. Doing just that dietary shift isn’t enough,
you have to do both.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. And speaking, you mentioned treatments and that sort
of thing. And this is a integrative summit. Before we get into how to go about
fixing toxicity, could you speak to a bit the importance, because there’s a lot of
folks going through conventional treatment watching this. Not only from a
therapeutic, reversing the cancer standpoint, so to speak, but also to cleaning
up if you have gone through conventional treatment. Why that’s important for
people to be thinking about?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Well, look. I mean, chemo, it’s a toxin. That’s how it
works, right? It poisons cells. The problem is it poisons bad ones and good
ones, right? And that ultimately lowers the immune system which many of
these presenters talked about. That yeah, we can get a five-year mark of a
cure, so to speak. But the probably is ten years later, down the road we end
up with another type of cancer.

Typically, it’s not the cancer that they actually started with, the original
cancer.

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Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: It’s a metastasis, and they end up with another cancer, a
different form later on and that becomes a problem. I would say, look, when
you see that not happen you see that they’ve gone more upstream to what’s
driving the cancer. If you don’t, yeah, what they were showing, the statistics
are that you will end up with another cancer.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: So, therefore, to my point and to yours. The other big deal
is the chemo, itself. The treatments itself. The radiation can create even a
more toxic environment. That’s the other theory that it leads to these other
cancers later on as well.

So, it’s very important, whatever therapies, treatments you choose, you still
have to go upstream. And cellular detox as I teach it, is a very critical
component regardless either way.

Ryan Sternagel: Let’s get into cellular detoxification. You hear a lot about
detoxification. And it’s kind of a hot word right now. But for somebody really
wanting to do it right, so to speak, how you do you talk about that?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. I think most people watching this, you’ve heard of
coffee enemas, colon cleanses, infrared saunas, all of that. And I don’t have a
problem with any of it. I think matter fact in any detoxification program, those
things can be very helpful. We teach them. We do them.

However, ultimately, though people just do that. And they think that’s
cleansing, detox. The problem as I just pointed out is what’s going on at the
cell. That’s the issue.

So, you have to get all the way upstream to where the problem really exists.
And we have to upregulate the cells detoxification function. So, one of the
things I teach is my five R’s. Which has no become a roadmap on how we do
this. How do we upregulate cell function, these detox pathways, right? I won’t
get into it, but our number one is first of all you have to remove the sources
your life.

And you’ve heard that. You hear people talking about fillings. Getting rid of
these silver fillings that contain mercury. Even in moms, I presented this
study that the number of fillings ladies, in your mouth is proportional to how
much they’re finding in the baby. In particularly the brain. Which we know
drives cancer and other problems.
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I presented some of these studies. So, inherited toxins is a big one.

But anyway, we talked about getting upstream to these sources. Making sure
your house isn’t toxic. Moldy, etc. and you talk a lot about that. But the point
is R number one is we have to look upstream, get rid of the sources.

R number two is regenerating the cell membrane. And I already made the
point that it’s so important. Toxins get in and effect the membrane. What I
didn’t say is how critical it is for detox. We have to get the good stuff in and we
have to get the toxins out. Even when your cell makes energy and makes
toxins. It’s like if you burn wood, if we didn’t have a chimney, we would die in
this room, right? Not from the fire, from the smoke. And that’s what happens
in a cell that membrane is toxic and inflamed.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: You can’t get the good stuff in. And you can’t get the bad
stuff out even endogenously. But of course, we take in toxins that we have to
clear as well. So, we have to regenerate the cell membrane.

We have to upregulate. R three is restore cell energy. When you look at every
pathway in the cell that naturally gets rid of toxins, ATP or energy, is at
cornerstone. It’s the hub. So, we have to get that energy back into the cell and
we teach strategies there.

And reducing cellular inflammation is R four. It seems like the obvious. But a
lot of the dietary things, and I can talk a little more about some of the science
that was presented here this weekend on fasting. And how important it is to
go through times of caloric restriction, short times. You don’t want to stay in
caloric restriction, but the science shows five days a month is a strategy we
now know according to studies that they are doing for cancer. Five days every
month are caloric restricted.

And of course, there’s other types of fasts. We talked a lot about water fasting
too. But this is important, and it’s really important for reducing the
inflammation.

Lastly, is R five. And that’s reestablishing methylation. Methylation is how

your body gets rid of toxins. It’s part of getting rid of toxic hormones. Which
can drive cancer, by the way.

Breast cancer is linked to a toxic estrogen metabolite. Meaning when you

break estrogen down it turns into something called 4-Hydroxy Estrone. That
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the body has to use a methyl group to grab and remove. If you lack these
methyl groups, this 4-Hydroxy Estrone builds up and we know it’s linked to
breast cancer, and other cancers.

So, anyway, that’s the five R’s. That we have to get the cell doing what it
should be doing every day and that’s detoxing. And when we upregulate that
function, now we have to use real binders and chelators to make sure all of
the toxins exit the body properly.

And we can talk a little bit about that. Because that’s another pitfall. People
think that some of these binders like chlorella and these herbal binders, they
may work in a petri dish. But when you put them in our body and they
interact with your microbiome it doesn’t do what we think.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. Just to make sure we’re hammering this point home.
All of those other detox methods you mentioned, the coffee enemas, so on and
so forth.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: I like them all.

Ryan Sternagel: But what are they addressing that is not the cell? Is it more
in the tissue that we’re talking about?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: I love that question, actually. Because like a coffee enema
for example, people think it’s a colon cleanse. It’s actually not. The caffeine
forces, it goes up the portal vein and it forces the bile out of the liver. The bile
is used to digest fat. It’s dumped and made in the liver, stored in the
gallbladder, then it’s used to dump in the gut to break down fat.

But it’s a fatty substance so it holds toxins. We call it hepatic, meaning liver.
Biliary meaning bile, sludge, toxic. Sounds bad, it is. But what a coffee enema
does is it pushes that out. And that’s good. We want the liver to be open, free
and functioning, because it’s where you process a lot of your toxins. So, that’s
what a coffee enema does.

A colon cleanse is just simply, look, you’ve got to move the bowels. If you don’t
move the bowels you will create auto toxic situations. So, that’s good too. It
opens up the colon and it keeps the bowels moving. So, that’s what some of
those things do.

For infrared sauna I mentioned that one. That helps. It opens up the skin
pathway, right? The sweat and you know it also helps the cell a little bit. But
again, those things are more helping the downstream pathways. Once we get

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the cell doing it we want those pathways to be open. So, those are great
things.

And in my process we support the liver, we support the gut, the lymph, all of
these pathways that are meant to help excrete the toxins once we get the cell
working.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: The missing part is getting the cell working. That’s what
everyone misses.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah, yeah. And on that note, I mean I know this is like kind
of the body of your work is teaching people how to go through these five R’s.
But can you just give folks, and I would encourage everyone to follow all of Dr.
Pompa’s work when you’re ready start detoxifying.

So, can you give folks an idea of the last four R’s, after you remove the source?
Like what are the kind of things they are doing?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah, you know when we fix the membrane, and this
seminar I didn’t do a talk on the membrane. But we hear a lot about the
benefits of Omega 3 and it’s important, it’s very important. However, Omega 6
as it turns is actually the bigger component, missing component in the
membrane. It plays a bigger role in the membrane.

Omega 6 gets a bad rap because most of the vegetable oils, canola oils, and all
the grain-fed meats are loaded with denatured horrific Omega 6. Which
actually creates the problem in the membrane. Because it’s displacing the
good Omega 6. And now, the cell membrane that’s so vital for detoxification
and our genes gets too fluid or not fluid enough. Meaning it doesn’t move
things in and out, right? So, it disrupts the membrane. Not good.

So, we have to put the good Omega 6 back in. So, that’s a challenge. We’ve
created some products around that. One that we’ve used for many, many
years called Vista. But also, there’s Andreas seed oil. You can Google it. Look
it up yourself. It’s a cold pressed. He has a patent on the pressing of these
vital Omega 6.

So, his sunflower oil, it’s not denatured. Because most of the oils you’re
buying in the store are in fact denatured. Because they’re fragile. Omega 6
and Omega 3 are very fragile fats. They’re polyunsaturated. Which just simply
means fragile, okay. We’ll keep it simple.

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But the fact is that most of these Omega 6’s that you need, they are unstable
oils you buy in the store. So, go online, Andreas seed oils and you can actually
get a really pressed, he has a pumpkin seed oil, he has a five seed oil I love.
Because it’s a four to one ratio of Omega 6 to 3, and that just so happens to
be the ration of the membrane.

Vista is the product that I mentioned. It’s two parts. It’s one fat for the inner
membranes, like the mitochondria, and the outer membrane. But okay, so
that’s it.

And we increase the fats in the diet, period, to help the cell membrane. The
good fats.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: And you’re going to have many people talk about that. But
you know, things like avocados, and raw nuts, and seeds. All of these things.
Grass-fed meat. All of these things have the good fats that are very important
for the cell membrane.

R number three, of course, we’ve created very strategic products here to help,
not just the mitochondria work better, but make more mitochondria. So, make
more powerhouses. So, that’s where we created a product called ENRG which
is a core product there.

Dietary wise, I think any dietary change, getting rid of processed food helps R
number three.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: R number four I would say the same thing. I mean you
know, the standard American diet, obviously you have to move away from
that. More plant-based. Lower carbohydrate diets are going to be what you
want to really reduce the inflammation.

And the fasting strategy which we can do a whole other show on my

feast/famine cycles. And how we do that do reduce cellular inflammation.

And methylation, you’re going to have a lot of practitioners talk about that.
But getting things like your B Vitamins, active forms of foliate,
Methylenetetrahydrofolate. I’ve lost people right there.

But anyways, those are part of methylation. And it’s really important to
consider that. So, I hope that helps.
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Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. On fasting, I’d point everyone to David Jockers’
interview. He did a really good job on talking about fasting and a lot of the
back and forth benefits there.

You mentioned the binders and everything and those get used improperly. Do
you want to expound on that a little bit?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: I have to put a selfish plug in for my new book Beyond
Fasting. It just go released. But what we do, I teach doctors, obviously. And
part of our strategy is fasting, but you know you don’t want to just fast. You
don’t just run a marathon and get good results, right? You train for a
marathon. The book is what we’ve been doing clinically for years to actually
get the best results out of fasting. Whatever fast you’re doing. Again, I talk
about the benefits of multiple different types of fast. I talk about intermittent
fasting in the book.

Fat adaptation, why that’s important to do that before you fast. My diet
variation feast/famine cycles, why that’s important to do before a fast. That’s
ultimately how we get the results at the cellular level. So, it’s not just about
fasting. You want to prepare the cells for the fast. And then you experience
something called autophagy. Where the body gets rid of the bad cells,
including cancer cells, according to studies. And then it raises up stem cells.
Which create a healing in the body that we can’t duplicate. That process is
critical.

However, just doing a fast you may not get a lot of those benefits. But the key
is preparing for the fast. And we’ve learned as a group of doctors that to go
beyond fasting and actually to get the results. And we put that together and I
did that in the book.

A good resource.

Ryan Sternagel: I need to grab that book before I get out of here.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no doubt about it.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah. On the binders, itself.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: We definitely need to talk about that.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

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Dr. Daniel Pompa: Because that’s a pitfall. So, people use a lot of things, like
I said, chlorella, cilantro, these are weak binders. And petri, they actually look
like stronger binders. But when you put them in the body, they interact with
the microbiome, that’s your gut bacteria. And it changes, it interacts, and it
changes the binding capacities and the assimilation, etc.

So, it’s really not what we think it is. So, we need real binders. One we use
that goes up in the cell membranes is a product called CytoDetox. Which
you’ve used. And it has very, very tiny particles with the ability to go in the
cell. In these vital membranes where the toxins are, even into the
mitochondria. And grab toxins and not let go. It’s cage that doesn’t let go. It’s
strong enough to. It’s a real binder.

They use it actually in environmental cleanups for these toxins that we know
cause cancer. They actually use it to grab those toxins, by the way.

And then we have in the same product, particles that are bigger. I sometimes
use like the balls, they’re small ones that go in the cell, big ones.

Ryan Sternagel: In that video.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. Exactly. So, that purposely stay outside the cell.
Why? Because when you upregulate the cell’s natural detox pathway toxins
start moving, and the problem there is that they start redistributing. And you
can actually become more toxic. Which is why when you use these weak
binders often times, people are actually moving toxins around.

It’s like a street cleaner. Did you ever see those things?

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: They actually have them in Park City where we are. They
go around and they have the brushes. It looks pretty impressive, until you see
the dust plume going around and resettling on all of the cars around it. So,
what are they actually doing?

But anyway, that’s what happens with these weak binders. They kind of just
stir it up and resettle it other places. So, we want something like CytoDetox
that has the ability to grab the toxins and move it all of the way out of the
body so you don’t redistribute it.

And then, I talked about this process from stage. I created years ago. That we
put a binder in the gut that doesn’t leave the gut. The product is called BIND.
But it sits there as a catcher’s mitt. So, when we upregulate the cell function,
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let’s say we do a coffee enema, we move the toxins to the liver. It binds to the
bile, this BIND pulls that toxic bile complex out of the body.

Ryan Sternagel: Yeah.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Otherwise, we re-intoxicate. Because even the bile

complex, that I said holds so many toxins, the bile’s produced in the liver. It’s
holding the toxins. It’s dumped in the gut.

The problem is this, your body is designed to reabsorb the bile and it brings
the toxins right around with it. So, the whole concept is we put BIND in there
four different binders that grab multiple different types of toxins. From heavy
metals to environmental toxins, mycotoxins from mold. It grabs that complex
and it pulls it out so you don’t auto intoxicate.

So, that’s kind of the core of my true cellular detox system. Upregulate cell
function, using binders like Cyto to make sure it moves out of the body. And
then a binder in the gut. And then, of course we support the downstream
pathways.

Ryan Sternagel: And when we talk about these advanced binding strategies,
again, being an integrative summit and without asking you to be too
prescriptive. And work with your healthcare practitioner and all of that good
stuff.

But yeah, for someone actively going through something like chemotherapy,
whether maybe getting an infusion every week, every two weeks, every month,
whatever it is. Is this the sort of thing that you work in, in between infusions
or would you just be cleaning up kind of after the fact?

Dr. Daniel Pompa: You know, look, if you’re going the route of chemo. Chemo
is a toxin, that’s how it works. So, I would subscribe the doctor’s orders.
Meaning you don’t want to pull the chemo out, if you’re going that route.
Because that’s what you’re expecting it to do. So, if you’re using something
like CytoDetox, it could pull the chemo out, the toxin out.

Now, afterwards. It’s a really good idea. We already point that out. Because
you have to clean up to give your good cells a chance to come back. If the
toxins are left in the cells, then you’re going to end up with another problem
five/ten years down the road.

Ryan Sternagel: Very good. I think we made a good case. The last question
I’ve been asking everyone on this event, just because it’s kind of neat to see
everyone’s responses put together. Toxicity aside, or included, but not
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necessarily sticking to it. Just spend one to two minutes rapid fire, bullet
point style, talking about all of the ways, you, Dr. Pompa, live your life in a
way that you believe will not result in cancer.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: You know I have an advantage. I got sick. People say,
“Man, I wish I could be so disciplined like you.” I’m like, “Look, no pride here. I
am just afraid to ever go back to the way I was.” And that’s the truth. I fear
going back. I don’t fear death, honestly. Even when I was sick, I always said
that to my wife. “I fear living my life the way I lived it.” So, therefore I fear ever
going back.

Therefore, it has created a life that my home, we use natural cleaners. I have
air filtration. I bring fresh air in, pull stale air out. Air’s a big deal. I have a
whole house water filtration. I have a point of service filtration, because water
holds many toxins. You have no idea what’s in your water. So, I would not
drink water unless it’s filtered appropriately.

When you look at what we eat. We eat all organic. If I go to a restaurant I will
not eat vegetable oil, because it dislodges the good fats from your cell
membrane. The cell membrane is critical. My wife and I question them. We’ll
make sure they use olive oil, butter.

This is the way that we live our life. And we travel a lot. So, we have to eat out.
But we know the places to go.

I blend. I juice only greens. I vary my diet. My diet variation strategy is I’ve
been in ketosis through the winter. But in the spring I’m going to move to
more of a plant-based diet.

Also, my variation is one or two days a week I eat healthy high-carbs. To

remind my body it’s not starving. That’s my diet variation principle as well.

I also intermittent fast. So, I have eaten yet today. I typically eat one or two
meals a day, or one and a half meals in a day.

But again, once or twice a week I eat more, I eat more carbs.

But I vary between low carb, high carb. I don’t think it’s wise to stay in a
ketotic state all the time. Or on the same diet all of the time. People are in the
camps, vegans, vegetarians, keto. The magic – you heard some of the top
scientists talk about – and to my point. And you heard Tony Jimenez say, for
their cancer patients. They force their patients to change their diet.

Ryan Sternagel: Do a new diet, yeah.

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Dr. Daniel Pompa: Right. So, and he’s right. Because the body adapts to the
change and the adaptation brings a hormone optimization. Which is critical
for healing. And also, that forced adaptation upregulates growth hormone,
right? It changes the microbiome. All of that, that’s how I live my life.

In my book Beyond Fasting that’s how I live my life, honestly. I don’t just use
that to work up to a successful fast. Which you heard a scientist say, look, we
are meant to fast it’s in our DNA. We need to fast. We’re not, we’re always in a
feast mode.

But the fact is I fast at least I would say two to four times a year I do a five-
day fast.

Ryan Sternagel: Five days.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: I talk about that in the book also. So, that’s what I do.

Ryan Sternagel: Very good.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: And by the way I detox. I still do a detox cycle. This year I
am doing one of my detox cycles once a month. Last year, when I was sick, I
was cycling detox, I did that consistently for four years. But now I am just
doing it for one time a month just to feel even better. I’m 53 years old and I’m
healthier now than I ever have been in my life. And that’s the truth too, I really
am.

Ryan Sternagel: You do look it in person, that’s for sure. Our son Ryder, we
are going to be putting him on your full-blown true cellular detox program.
Pretty excited about that.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: It works. As a matter of fact these clinics here are the top
clinics, these cancer clinics here use these products.

Ryan Sternagel: Dr. Pompa, that being said, you want to let everyone know
one more time where to follow-up with you, find all things Dr. Pompa, and any
particular aspect of your work you’d like to point them to? That sort of thing.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Yeah. It’s drpompa.com. I do a podcast Cellular Healing

TV, I’ve interviewed you there. I’ve interviewed some of these top experts, even
that here. Just a lot of knowledge there. Written a lot of articles. And my new
book Beyond Fasting.

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Ryan Sternagel: That was Dr. Pompa everyone. I’m Ryan Sternagel of The
Stern Method and The Integrative Answers to Cancer podcast. And we’ll see you
on the next one.

Dr. Daniel Pompa: Thanks for having me, man.

Ryan Sternagel: Thank you.

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