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The basis of the system is the idea that there are “Low Caliber Hooks” and “High Caliber Hooks” which Book Notes

at their simplest, may be a single word she says. Kezia states that every word that comes out of a girl’s Convos
mouth is a “hook”. The difference between a Low Caliber hook and a High Caliber one is the amount of
information you can take and share about it and the importance of it to the girl you’re speaking to. General Tips
Obviously a Low Caliber hook is something which does not hold much importance and is only for the
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sake of keeping a conversation going and a High Caliber yields much more information and helps fuel
the conversation. Pickup Tips

Here are some examples of each. Keep in mind, any subjects not in the “High Caliber Hook” section are Psychology
open to your interpretation of how useful they are & where you would place them on the scale.
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Low Caliber Hooks:
-Name Youtube Tips
-Age
-Anything else which doesn’t give much information or allow for further conversation.
High Caliber Hooks:
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-Country/Place of Origin
-Movies
-Books
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-Jobs
-Hobbies Married Man Sex Life Primer Ch 27 – 30 – Final
-Interests
-Celebrities Married Man Sex Life Primer Ch 22 – 26
-Cities
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Now… ideally for all you guys making canned openers you can use on the spot or even for those who
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like to go natural, try to shape your opener so that it applies to one of these topics or if not, transition to
one quickly because many openers while they may get a smile or a laugh or whatever from the girl, can Married Man Sex Life Primer Ch 11 – 13
be exhausted quickly without a good topic. Also keep in mind to not dwell on one of these for twenty
minutes, cherry pick and talk about other things so that she stays interested. The better opener you
have, the better Hook Leads you will produce.

Here I am going to post the 10 Hook/Leads which are to be used with the Hook’s named above and of
course in daily conversation with whomever you speak to.
Hook/Leads:

Note: Begin applying 3 regularly starting with Validation, Opinion + 1 of your choice until they become
natural to you. Then, add on to them until you have your choice of any of the 10. Whenever there’s a
silence in the conversation, you’ll know what to say, because they’ve all been engrained in your mind.

1. Open Question: Exactly what it sounds like, this is the general conversation fueler in the seduction
community, so you should be able to find a plethora of information on it if it’s name wasn’t descriptive
enough.
It is good to follow up with the opener when you’re starting out with a set or even use it as the opener
itself. Let’s play out this scenario. You’re in a video shop and you see an HB standing next to you.

PUA: Hey, I’m going to watch a movie with my niece. What movie do you think I should get?
HB: How about “Dirty Dancing”? Ha ha.
PUA: Ha ha, why would you recommend that?
HB: Oh, I’m a big fan of ___! I used to watch him growing up as a kid.
As you can see, she dropped some good Hook Leads here, due to you asking an open question.

2. Fact: This one is also quite self explanatory. You simply state a fact in response to or about a High
Caliber Hook that the TOI gives you. Feel free to have fun with it though, you can make it up as long as
it sounds legitimate.
Ex: Oh you’re from Mexico? Did you know that 90% of Mexican girls come to America to seduce an
American guy to get married and become a citizen. Then after that they leave him to be with their
Mexican hubby in America legally? (<—Made that one up) *You could even tease her on the fact if you
tailor it to fit her.*

That was a playful example, but you can even make it sound more legitimate. Let’s say that the only
thing you know about her is that she’s Romanian. That and she is shy. You can say:
You know, I was reading in the newspaper the other day; they did an interview and it said that 80% of
Romanians actually wished they were from Hungary.

This will open up a shy girl, because Hungary and Romania have a bit of rivalry and only a Romanian or
Hungarian would know that. This makes it feel as if you’re an insider and it helps to build conspiracy
between you two. This will cause her to open up. Also, she can’t get offended at you for saying it,
because you just read it in a newspaper; it’s not your personal opinion. This brings us to our next Hook
Lead…

*Best used on shy girls as they are very thoughtful and it gets them to open up*

3. Challenge: A challenge not only is a good Hook Lead, but also shows the girl that you’re not a
pushover and it sets the frame that you’re dominant. Most guys avoid challenging girls, because they’re
afraid of getting into an argument. Luckily, there’s a technique that you can use if you get close to an
argument with a girl. You say something along these lines:
PUA: Stop. Me and you will never agree on this (smile). We can argue for 2 weeks and we’ll never
agree on this. Am I right?
HB: Yes.
PUA: But you know what? I love that. Don’t you find that most other people you argue with, just agree
with you and don’t have an opinion? They’re just polite and nod their heads. But you have an opinion,
you’re fiery like me. You stick up for what you believe in. I love it.

4. Opinion: This one explains itself as well. It is as simple as stating your opinion positive OR negative
in response to her Hook. Negative is absolutely allowable because girls don’t like a guy who doesn’t
have a spine and is afraid to argue or simply agrees with everything she says. If things get out of control,
you can just use the “Diffusion Technique”, I’ve listed above.

Example of Opinion:

Scenario: You absolutely hate the movie “Pineapple Express” but it happens to be the girl’s favorite
movie ever.
Girl: Oh my god “Pineapple Express” was the best movie ever don’t you think!?
AFC: Yeah I totally loved it! We should watch it together sometime!
PUA: Eh, it really wasn’t what I expected. There was so much hype and it didn’t end up being nearly as
funny as I expected. “Super-Bad” was great though!

*Notice how the PUA isn’t at all afraid to express his opinion regardless of whether it’s totally against
what the girl said, while the AFC agrees for the sake of agreement*

5. Humor: Figure out what type of humor you have. It’s a big part of who you are and it’s a great way to
screen girls to see if they have the same type. Mine personally is a mix of Sexual, Playful, and
Situational humor. Find yours and look for girls with the same kind. The way that humor serves as a
hook lead is the fact that it makes her more interested & you can use it for role-play too which is a big
part of this.

Ex: *You crack a joke or two that she just doesn’t find funny.*

Simply say: “I understand that we don’t share the same sense of humor.”
Then to push it into role-play you can create your own scenario but for the sake of this scenario it’s the
typical relationship scenario.

Girl: *Not laughing*

AFC: *awkward pause/doesn’t know what to say, maybe even tries to qualify himself because he feels
unconfident*
PUA: Oh my god you didn’t find that funny? This’ll never work out, if you’re not good tonight we’re going
to have to talk divorce in the morning! *sexual framing *

*In this scenario the PUA realized that they don’t click in terms of humor but makes the best out of it and
leads the conversation to where he wants it to go while the AFC tries to make up for his jokes not
sticking.*

6. Anecdote: Exactly what it says, you’ll find a lot of advice on it around the forums but here are some
specific things to make sure the story sticks.

1. Explain the link to the High Caliber Hook. As long as the link is fairly relevant it’ll fit the conversation.
Ex: *she mentions living in Dallas and tells you a little about it, but you have only been to Houston*
“Well I haven’t been to Dallas, but I have been to Houston. *Goes into story*.

2. Take a small story and blow it up into something big.

Now there are 4 elements into making the Story not only more interesting but helpful for continuing the
conversation.

Element 1: Add Detail. (Ever think that girls gossip more than we do? Not really, it’s just that guys get to
the point while the girl explains what people were wearing, who was there, the weather, the energy of
the place, the environment, names, EVERYTHING. That’s what you want to do to draw her in.)

Element 2: Timing. (Make dramatic pauses, build tension to make the story more interesting.)

Element 3: Emotion. (Use words that give the story a feel. Instead of saying, “it was cold outside, the
people were creepy, and it was really dark”, give it life! Use words like magnificent, powerful, dreadful.
Be descriptive with what you say). (Also it says to not be afraid to tell sad stories or things of the like as it
allows the girl to see you as more than a one dimensional guy) *Put emotion into it, don’t be crying or
anything like that, but feel the vibe of the story you’re telling.* Another plus of telling a sad story is that
you can get a girl to emotionally invest in you.

Element 4: The fourth element that you can use is “threads”. Briefly stop your story and ask an open
question. For example, if your story involves kids, briefly stop the story and ask if the girl likes kids.
Make sure to not continue that thread until you finish your story or it will appear as if what she has to say
is more important than what you have to say. Do this at least 3 times in your story and when you finish
your story, you’ll have a lot of High Caliber Hooks to bounce back to.
Ex: *Telling a story about going to a concert and what happened*.
PUA: “Blah blah blah, hey I was crowd surfing which was totally awesome. Let me get back to the story
but we’ll talk about that after.”
*Notice it sets room for future conversation even if you or she brings it up 20 minutes later. It’s an IOI if
she does it herself.*

7. Tasks: (You know how we talk about speaking with diction around here? Telling a girl to do
something instead of asking for it, that’s exactly what this is. It conditions her to listen to what you say
and of course keeps the conversation going.)
Implementing the “Task” Hook Lead is very simple. She talks about something and you get her to tell
you more by saying “tell me/show me”.

Example: *She tells you she’s from India and that it’s awesome*

AFC: What part of India?

PUA: India, really? Tell me 3 things that make it so awesome.

*The AFC wasted a completely good hook and killed his chances on getting any more information on it
while the PUA tells her in a very alpha way to give him more information on it. Also, the 3 or however
many things she tells you are things she’s interested in. Why else would she bring them up? From here
on, you can escalate the conversation on three brand new High Caliber Hook Leads.*

8. Validation: Validation is one of the most important Hook Leads. For the validation Hook Lead to
work, you must demonstrate high value and high standards. You will constantly be qualifying her to see
if she’s up to your standards. There are two types of validation. There is positive validation (+) and
negative validation (-). Positive validation is approval of one of her characteristics. Negative validation is
disapproval of one of her characteristics.

Example of positive validation:

PUA: What do you do for a living?

HB: I’m a teacher.
PUA: *Pause*. That’s kind of cool. Most girls I hang out with are models and actresses (DHV)… But I like
how you help others. Tell me more.

Notice how the PUA stopped and didn’t rush into the response. The PUA stayed calm and didn’t over-
react.
Once you validate a girl enough, she may start to get cocky. What you do then is give her negative
validation.

Example of negative validation:

PUA: Where are you going this holiday?

HB: *Insert place* to get drunk a little bit.
PUA: *Say Nothing*…
HB: What’s wrong?
PUA: Nothing, forget about it.
HB: No, no! What is it?
PUA: Ok, but promise you won’t get moody. I hate it when women do that.
Her: Ok, ok! I promise, I promise!
PUA: Ok, when you said you like going to bars and get drunk, I just didn’t expect it. You were saying all
these beautiful things and then you said that. Now look, can we change the subject?

By saying this, she’ll start qualifying herself again. Make sure you act as if you can leave her at any
second to remain being a challenge. Then continue the cycle of positive/negative validation.

9. Assumptions: (Cold reading, palm reading, any kind of psychoanalysis would fit here. Keep in mind
girls do not like vague responses, and so if you give one, will yield a vague response. Likewise, a
detailed read or assumption about her will yield a much warmer response.)

Vague: “I feel like you’re a really outgoing person.”

Girl: Really? Mmhmm, I knew that.

Detailed: “From what I’ve gotten from talking to you, you seem like a girl
who’s really open with people and when you meet a stranger, you don’t hesitate to open up to them with
 a really warm vibe.” *You can go on and
on, the more detailed you are, the more room you have to be wrong.*

What if I read a girl totally wrong?

Simple. Respond with intrigue and say, “Really? Tell me about it/why that is,” It’ll get her to open up, and
sooner than you think, she’ll forget you were wrong.

(The big point on this one is that girls LOVE to be psychoanalyzed even if you’re wrong.)

10. Suggestion: This one is pretty self explanatory. You suggest things to her. This is especially
effective when you want to bounce or set up a date. An example of this can be “Oh, you’re been to
Japan? Then you’ll love this Japanese place down the street. The food there is wonderful, let’s go!”.

Applying the 10 Hook Lead System to direct game:

When you first approach the girl in direct game, you know very little about each other. You can speed
up the process by giving her a task.
Example: “Since this is so random, you should tell me 3 things about yourself and I’ll tell you 3 things
about myself. Here, I’ll start”.
You have to start first or he’ll give you Low Caliber Hooks. The better responses you give her, the
Higher Caliber Hooks she’ll give you.

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