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HOW TO CHECK 3V, 5V (RT8206b)

SYSTEM ON LAPTOP MOTHERBOARD


Laptop Motherboard need 3V and 5V power system. This
3V_ALW supply VSB (voltage switch button)-EC Bios IC-EC
(embedded controller)-SB (South bridge) and more other
important component. 5V supply power Source for any
switching transistor and device. (USB-HDD-Optical etc).
Without this 3V and 5V Power circuit board will totally
death.RT8206A/B dual step-down, switch-mode power supply
(SMPS)controller generates logic-supply voltages in battery-
powered systems. The RT8206A/B includes two pulse-width
modulation (PWM) controllers fixed at 5V/3.3V or adjustable
from 2V to 5.5V. An optional external charge pump can be
monitored through SECFB (RT8206A).This device also features
a linear regulator providing a fixed 5V output.
Checking this IC need to know how they work and knowing important input
and output Voltage .

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Checking the problem by the Symtom:
Service log is made by technicians to make a record of
faulty motherboard electricity and signal system , every single
voltage and signal measurement are notice in this log.To narrow
the search of missing voltage and signal.

1.Dead motherboard:
no led indicator at all, no fan moving ,no power .This
mother board require an adapter voltage
(12V_15V_16V_18.5V_19V_20V) also 3V and 5V to completely
VALW power supply need. without this impossible motherboard
to a life.

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Starting with checking power jack to ensure adapter contin uity
supply P channel mosfet transistor ended to P channel mosfet
transistor for battery fet.This line power contribution called
Main circuit line of VALW power supply.Open schematic (ensure
match motherboard and schematic code)for charger IC page and
trace started from DC jack to adp P channel mosfet (or same
motherboard using Inductor or Diodes to replace transistor on
circuit) make sure continuity supply for charger IC VCC,DC/DC
main supply IC VCC and each Upper N channel SOURCE to
produced 3V and 5VALW.Signal confirmation EC Bios working
name is RSMRST# for 3.3V

2.No display motherboard:


led indicator on, switch on but no internal or external
display.There are 3 boot strap device supported to make
motherboard load to display of course after Bios system working
properly :
A.Processor:
Without this motherboard will not be able to display. power
name by VCCORE and enable signal called VR_ON or V_RON as
a trigger from Embedded controler(EC) to enable or disable
VCCORE IC. Processor need power supply greater than 1.05V
but some AMD processor only need power greater than 0.9V.

B.SODIM:
Sodim power called VCCRAM.There are 2 VCCRAM need to
make sodim working :1.5V and 0.9VTT for DDRIII and
1.8V_0,75VTT for DDRII.

C.CHIP's(SB/NB/VGA):

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Chip Power called VCCP. There are very complex power
supply system. Chip need 19VALW-5/3VALW-5/3VS-1.2VS-
1.05VS.Chip also have they own RAM and need power supply to
working. Signal confirmation chip was ok on chip PWRGOOD
for 3.3V or tolerance 10%

Note every missing power and replace damage component.

3.Power Drop:
Led Indicator on ,switching on, on for few second after that
back off. This symptom happen because power spike or there is
shortage on VS line. Processor and Chip are most which can
cause power spike, look at VCORE and VCCP circuit line
,circuit has provide stockpile empty pad to add some more
capacitor to anticipate power spike during boot up process. The
other problem of power drop are some shorted on VS line ,so
after switch on VS active 1 or more VS line got a feed back
caused power down and shutdown the system.

4.VALW SHORTED:
Adapter led Blinking or drop, Current high Voltage down,
no movement at all(Dead shorted motherboard).This feed back
comes from VALW main power supply line. Checking this by
traceing any sorted component on VIN and VBAT+line. Finding
shorted by checking all component having Cathode and anode.

5.No switch/Can not Switch on:

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There are few system switch found for different circuit
manufacture, measuring switch voltage on one of switch button
pin, before switch standby power available for 17~19V comes
from 51_ON#and after switch on power switching vcc 3.3V
replace 51_ON# supply than EC_ON# one of pin Embedded
controller reacted for on/off mode.

Switching system shorted power switch to the ground, while


shorted vcc become zero volt than 3.3V_vcc replace 51_ON# 17-
19V become 3.3V.this signal read by Embedded controller to
switch on or switch off the system. The other system used 3 or 5V
switch button VCC. when 3or5V shorted to the ground by
switching button ,3V will drop to zero volt(for 1 second) EC will
reacted to power on the system and when 3or5V shorted for more
than 3 second ,EC will reacted to power off the system.

HOW TO CHECK NO DISPLAY PROBLEM ON


CIRCUIT PROCEDURE

1a.Check device : processor , memory / SODIM , webcam ,


modem , wifi , card reader etc.

1b.processor/SODIM tested , SWITCH on again .

1c. physical analysis components : memory sockets loose ,


component crashes , burns , cracked , broken or any form of
physical damage .(Make a replacement if any)

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1d.check procesor vccore voltage ( schema apply ) INDUCTACE
( R36 , R45 , R56 ) / capacitor ( 330uf - 220uF - Tokin NEC
super capacitor ) range 1.0VS~1.5VS to normal operate.
example ic / chip For cpu power is : ( VCC ORE / CORE CPU /
CPU DC / POWER processors )
Example Vccore IC/VRM controller :
(ADP3166 ADP3170 ADP3421 AIC1567 CS5322 FAN5056
ITC1709 MAX1710/MAX1711/MAXl712 HIP6004 ,
ADP3212'MAX8760 , MAX8770 , MAX8771 , ISL6260 ,
ISL6265A , ISL6266A , ISL62882 , ISL6262A,ISL6218CV - T ,
ISL6269CCR .. etc )

1e : check for memory and power voltage conductors and ground


socket interface memory. VCCRAM normal operational voltage
1.8 V and 0.9VTT for (DDRII) and 1.5V/0,9VTT for (DDR3)

examples of memory / power SODIM ( schema languages :


VDDR / POWER MEMORY / VTERM / DDR PWR ) ic examples :
(MAX8794 NCP5201 SC1486/SCl486A SC2616 TPS51020
ISL6520 ISL6537 CM8501 , ISL6224 ISL6225 , TPS51116EGR ,
RT8207A ... etc ) .

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1f.cek voltage on S.I.O /EMBEDDED CONTROLLER chip:
S.I.O managed a lot of signal, start from pwr button signal,
switching VALW to VS power and steeping process signal sleep
state. We can detected normal ic and firmware bios from
confirmation signal of RSMRST#3.3V .If SPI setting, IC bios and
firmware not working, this S.I.O will not working. This S.I.O
programme by microcontroler .(download example S.I.O
datasheet to get more information)
S.I.O chip samples are :
(WINBON/ENE/ITC/NOUVOTON/ PC97338 , PC87392 ,
FDC7N869 , FDC37N958 , LPC47N227 , LPC47N267 PC87591S
/ PC 87591L / PC 97317IBW/PC 87 393 VGJ PC87591E ,
WPC8768L , KB926D etc ) .

1.g.check voltage and ground at the thermal sensor IC


Thermal sensors ( heat sensor ) is a sensor chip that detects
heat safe limits to maintain security motherboard chips. almost
all laptops have a thermal sensor to microprocessor and some
motherboards have a thermal Graphic chip to chip .Thermal
sensor will give orders to the bios if it detects a maximum heat
limit to disconnect power to the processor or VGA or just turn
off bootstrapping ( command to boot ) and stop the interface
between components that aims to keep the excessive heat damage
the chip ( protect error ) .

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Detect due to frequent excessive heat can cause thermal sensor
or faulty memory detection and sensor commands do not get
along (False alarm). Thus the chip detects heat temperature
maximum continuous conditions, although they are not.
To reconcile the sensor detection is by lifting the chip from the
motherboard and put back to give the induction . if the sensor is
already damaged and could not be reset we will have to replace
the sensor chip that is still accurate .

ic examples :
ADMI032 , EMC1402 , EMC4402 , EMC4401 , GMT781 ,
G768B , MAX6642 , MAX6657 , SMC1423 .. etc

1.h.cek voltage or frequency of the clock generato r:


sample clock generator chip :
ALPRS355B MLF64PIN, CK505, CK408, K410M,
CY2854LVX , ICS9LPRS387 , ICS9LPR600
ICS951412 , ICS954213 , ICS9LPR363DGLF - T , ICS950810 ,
SLG8SP626 , SLG8SP513V , SLG8LP465VTR,SLG8SP553V ,
SLG8LP55VTR , SLG8SP513VTR ... etc.

2.a.Check Chip power


2.b.Check chip signal and state trigger.

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2.c.Check Bios microcontroller system(including check for S.I.O
or embedded controler)
2.d.SB/NB/Chip analyses .
2.e Reflow~reball~replace the chip . ( Fixing ball lead / tin loose
chip due to heat )
note : Chip -level is not described in detail on the basis of the
material .
sample chips :
SB/NB/ CHIP : - ( PC97338, PC87392, FDC7N869,
FDC37N958, LPC47N227, LPC47N267 PC87591S / PC 87591L /
PC 97317IBW/PC 87 393 VGJ PC87591E etc ).
- Graphics Brand : -
( ATI , NVIDIA , S3 , NEOMAGIC , TRIDENT , SMI ,
INTEL , FW82807 , and CH7001A , etc. .
GPUCORE / GFXCORE / VCVOD / GRAPHIC POWER
MAX8792ETD + T , MAX8792ETD , ISL6263 .. etc

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There are few system switch found for different circuit
manufacture. measuring switch voltage on one of switch button
pin, before switch standby power available for 17~19V comes
from 51_ON#and after switch on power switching (VSB) 3.3V
replace 51_ON# supply than EC_ON# one of pin Embedded
controller reacted for on/off mode. Switching system shorted
power switch to the ground, while shorted VSB (Voltage Switch
Button) become zero volt.

FIRST RESET SIGNAL ON COMPUTER CIRCUIT


RSMRST#
When the Power, Bios,Ec are OK, the RSMRST# will go high. In
the other word, this pin go Low only when the system reset.If
BIOSdata is error, RSMRST# won’t go high.

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Here PCH(platform controller host) is the combination of north
and south bridge.

Laptop Troubleshooting – Symptoms of PCH CPU and SIO


Failure!
For any computer to work properly, there are several
circuits and microchips that must cooperate on the motherboard.
These include the all-important processing unit (CPU), the
Platform Controller Hub (PCH) and the Serial Input /Output
(SIO). All these units have individual functions that collaborate
to make one interconnected system.
How the CPU, PCH, and SIO Work Together in a Laptop
Motherboard
The PCH (Platform Controller Hub) can be referred to as a
family or set of Intel Microchips. As the name suggests, the PCH
controls various data paths and functions that work with the
Central Processing Unit.
The SIO, on the other hand, is an integrated circuit located on a
computer’s motherboard that handles the slower, less demanding
input/output devices. In conjunction with the CPU and the PCH,
the Serial Input/Output has control over floppy disk controller,
infrared, parallel ports, serial ports(DB9) and mouse as well as
temperature and fan speed in your computer.

Symptoms of Damaged or Failing PCH, CPU, and SIO

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–Computer turns on without any display or sound.
-Computer fans run at much higher speeds even when computer
is idle
-Operating system freezes unexpectedly
-temperature rises unusually/suddenlly
-All serial and parallel ports do not work
-Frequent, unexpected system shut down

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