Now, this is the salamander. Did you see? And the salamander is living in the fire.

This is from the

alchemical book of Michael Maier – Atalanta Fugiens. The salamander is living in the planet and feeding
from the fire and I think this is a good image of what individuation process and analysis is. Fire is symbol
of emotion of inner fire, of being gripped by emotions and he is feeding so this fire is even nourishing
something in us which wants to grow and only was the fire it can grow and recently I had an insight and
so let my salamander is down at the bottom of the sea but it is fed by the fire. The dragon is flying away
from the bottom of the sea. He could escape, he was volatile as the alchemists say, but the salamander
had to nourish himself from the fire and then later I had the dream where a boy was sitting on the
square and I was passing by him and I was spitting out and he was, in a dream then, upset that I was
spitting out, that I was despising him. And I thought – Aha, now the salamander is the boy, he was about
six, seven years old. He is the boy and I should not spit because I despised being so stupid and so
undeveloped.. and the boy is undeveloped, that is clear but he has not be despised.. so that is always
???? with our work.

Chapter 1 CG Jung as “Alchemical” father

Stefano: We had the chance to talk about your family, your mother, your father, their or your own
reconciliation with them, but your biological father was not your only father, Jung was a father to you
and you dreamt of him so many times – more than 70 times. I remember you telling me the last dream
you had with him and this helped you to understand and maybe overcome your inferiority complex.
Would you like to talk about Jung as a father, how you overcame your inferiority complex and then I
would also like to talk about your mother. We should pay tribute to her.

Alfred: It is easier for me to speak about my father complex which is linked with my inferiority complex.
He could not understand my way. He would have helped me I took all the stones away, and all the
difficulties away when I would go in his direction – become a banker as he was – because we was a
farmer”s boy and came from very low situation and went up until director of a bank so he had the
power to help me go this way but I had a dream when I was twelve that I had to become a doctor, a
medical doctor, and so I could not deviate from that, I had to go my way and there was always he could
not understand why I – as he thought – wanted to become a medical doctor, and not a banker, so this
was part of my inferiority complex, I did not feel understood by my father and then one day I thought
but if Jung would be my father, then he is a psychologist and he has a lot of understanding from
psychological, he would have understood and until I came across a dream of Jung son which he had, and
he dreamt he saw his father driving with the car - ????? manipulating and managing and though is he
crazy or is he drunk and then I thought – AHA, sure it is not so easy to be the son of famous genius so I
am happy that I am not the son of Jung because jung son had his own difficulties with his father
because have you ever heard of the son of ???? of any famous people, they are nobody because these
geniusis are overwhelming …., so this was good insight to a child but nevertheless for me, it was
important to see how he lived and what he did and for me it was an important person going ahead and
then I dream that – I told you the last dream – that I was beside him and I knew that he is him, we were
laying naked in bed and I knew that he accepts me as I am and therefore we were naked. We had no
persona, we were just as we are born, and accepting everyone and it was not the question he is a very
famous and great man and I only little medical doctor. No, I was accepted as I am and I accepted him as
he is, not admiring this is a very famous one person. No, he was a mere human being as I am a human
being and this was the end, and then I was, I did not dream anymore about jung, But then when I had
quarrel with von franz when she said – I don’t love you anymore, then she dies in 98, and later on I
thought I have to create this situation up with her and make an active imagination so I tried. Silence. I
had no answer. And then I had to tell myself – she does not know the answer because she is sleeping in
the lap of Jung. She was so much dependent upon jung and when she died. Did I tell you the last dream?
He came and got her into the beyond..

Stefano: disease von franz lasted ????????????/

Alfred: no, it was the last dream of her nurse which was hearing from franz and in the morning she told
her she had this dream that somebody came to the door of the house, and ringed?, and she opened and
it was jung and jung asked where is she? And she knew exactly he was asking about von Franz and she
showed here. He opened the door and they finished the dream was. And when this lady told her the
dream she said – oh, now my suffering has an end, she suffered because Parkinson and the next night
she died, so jung was getting her into the unconscious

Stefano: again, reconciliation but if we distinguish between male and female, it is very interesting, there
are strong man – the father, jung, yourself, and women like your sister who is dependent, was
dependent on your father, von franz who was unseparated from jung, as you said last time and then
silence.

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