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SRV and GCV Calibration in Cranke Mode


How I can calibrate the SRV&GCV with crank mode in MARK 6?

By Mcc on 12 March, 2019 - 1:16 pm

Dear sir,

As you know if you want to calibrate the SRV & GCV valve, it's easy in offline by forcing some signal
like the L43hrJOGX and L4_XTP and need to forcing the L20fgs1&L3adj3.

BUT there is different if use the crank mode?

When i want to do the calibrate in crank the turbine is trip?

So what the important signal most i do forcing even the turbine not shut down.

By CSA on 12 March, 2019 - 5:28 pm

Please tell the Process Alarms which are active when you put the unit in CRANKe mode in preparation
for an LVDT calibration verification.

By CSA on 13 March, 2019 - 3:41 pm


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ALSO, please tell if the Mark V is a SIMPLEX or TMR turbine control panel.

Have you looked at the Trip Display of the operator interface to determine what is "tripping" the unit?
(Most all GE Mark V HMIs (the ones that run some version of MS-Windows and CIMPLICITY), and
many newer versions of the old <I>s (the ones that ran IDOS), have Trip Displays which could be
used (if configured properly!) to determine what is "tripping" the unit. Also, there should be a Start-
Check Display, and that can also be used to determine what is preventing the Mark V from displaying
a 'Ready to Start'--which is MUST do in ANY mode (other than OFF!!!) to be able to issue a START.

So, it's NOT clear if the unit is actually "tripped" or some start-check permissive is preventing the unit
from being started.

Some SIMPLEX Mark V units had some "unusual" functions done in <C> to provide some redundant
protection (since there was only an <R> control processor). And, they required an extra step or two to
get a 'Ready to Start' for testing purposes.

Lastly, if you are having to manually start the Hydraulic Ratchet pump, then it's likely that the output
of the Hydraulic Ratchet pump was re-connected to the high-pressure hydraulic supply to the control
valves and IGV actuator (if equipped). That's NOT typical for many GE-design heavy duty gas
turbines--even if it seems "normal" for your site. AND< there's a pretty serious concern when using
the Hydraulic Ratchet Pump for stroking hydraulically-actuated control devices: I believe, if you look
at the L.O. System P&ID (and possibly the Starting Mean P&ID), the Hydraulic Ratchet Pump draws
unfiltered oil, which is NOT good for servos, and even the hydraulic self-sequencer.... It's an

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SRV and GCV Calibration in Cranke Mode https://control.com/thread/1552506101#1552506101

EXCELLENT IDEA to put differential pressure gauges across any and all filters in the Hydraulic
Ratchet system!!! Because, they don't usually have dp gauges--or dp switches to generate alarms in the
Mark* turbine control system. So, most filters get so choked (plugged) they eventually rupture....
Which releases a LOT of the trapped debris into the system when the rupture occurs, AND prevents
any debris from being trapped in the filter(s).

Anyway, if you need more help, you will need to provide the requested data. AND, it would be great if
you resolve your issue with the information provided if you would write back to let us know what you
found and how you resolved your issue! A LOT of people read these threads and learn from them--so
your feedback is most helpful, even if the information provided was NOT helpful or didn't help you
resolve your issue.

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