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ANDY. That some kind of comparison or contrast is being drawn between Beowulf,
now at the height of his powers, and the fallen idol Heremod is made strikingly
clear in the second passage from the blunt comment of Hrothgar that ‘I . . . have
told this tale for your sake’ (ic þis gid be þe awræc, lines 1723b–24a), words
which could equally mean: ‘I . . . have told this tale about you.’ In the earlier
passage about Heremod, the connection between Heremod and Beowulf is
achieved through the use of parallel syntax: Heremod ‘turned out for his people,
for all the nobles, a source of mortal worries’ (he his leodum wearð, / eallum
æþelingum to aldorceare, lines 905b–6); Beowulf ‘turned out there to all, to the
race of men, to his friends the dearer’ (He þær eallum wearð, / mæg Higelaces,
manna cynne, / freondum gefægra, lines 913b–915a). The precise referent of the
closing half-line of the passage is, however, decidedly ambiguous: we are simply
told that ‘sin entered him’ (hine fyren onwod, line 915b). While modern editors
and translators go to some lengths to reassure their readers that Heremod is
intended here,81 an Anglo-Saxon audience might have felt less confident that
Beowulf and Heremod were being juxtaposed not so much as opposites as
equals.
The way in which the Beowulf-poet adopts and adapts into his poem the tales
of Scyld Scefing and of Sigemund and Heremod is surely instructive of his attitudes
towards the inherited tradition as a whole. Each legendary hero is held up
as a point of comparison and contrast with Beowulf himself, and it cannot fairly
be said that the results are always flattering
RINGLER…………………………………………………………heremod=beowulf
and the delights of men,
a forlorn exile.
Although God the giver
had granted him strength
above all other
earthly champions,
a baneful crop
of bloodthirsty thoughts
took root in his soul;
morose, close-fisted,
he grudged gift-giving
to gain men’s praise,
and both king and country
came to disaster
and long-lasting grief. (3424–43)
Physical strength without wisdom and good judgment is very dangerous.
Heremod perverts two of his most important obligations in the lord-follower
relationship that was so central to early Germanic military and social organization:
instead of protecting his men and promoting their well-being, he
murders them; instead of distributing treasure, he hoards it.
…………………………………………………………………………hrothgar=beowulf
just as Hrothgar and his Danes had lived the good life in Heorot “until
their foe started / his persecutions” (200–201), so King Beowulf ruled his
people in peace and prosperity “until a usurper came / to rule in the night”
(4420–21).55 Our sense of déjà vu—of the alarming parallel between Beowulf’s
situation and Hrothgar’s—increases when we presently learn that now
Beowulf’s own
tall meadhall,
the gift-seat of the Geats,
greatest of buildings,
was in ashes. (4650–53)
And our feeling that things are going badly wrong is deepened even further
by what we are told about Beowulf’s psychological reaction to the bad news:
The old ring-giver’s
heart was heavy
with huge misgivings;
he wondered if all
unwittingly
he had offended God,
the Father of heaven,
by breaking his law;
his breast seethed
with sad foreboding,
as was seldom the case. (4654–64)
His usual steadiness and buoyancy seem to have deserted him.
2. HROTHGAR = GOD (creation of HEOROT ++++ song of creation) --- revenge as well?
JOE-3
we are told that Grendel only begins his man-eating marauding
(30 men on his first visit to this restaurant) when the Danish King Hrothgar
builds his mighty hall called Heorot (the name means ‘hart’ or ‘stag’). Another
reason for the attack is perhaps that Hrothgar’s proud poet celebrates the
building by singing a song of the creation of the world that implicitly
compares Hrothgar with the Creator Himself. Outside in the darkness
lurks Grendel, excluded from the Danish feast. For these reasons we can
view Grendel’s ravaging as either an extreme case of retaliation against noisy
neighbours, as a reflex of his Cain seed evil upbringing or, more intriguingly,
as an instrument of God’s wrath against the uppity Danes.
PJEVAČI = ? ABEL
GRENDEL = KAIN!
RINGLER
Grendel and
his mother, though they are human in origin, represent grotesque distortions
of humanity. Grendel, for example, can be interpreted as a projection (and
symbol) of humanity’s proclivity to violence, as is clearly implied by his descent
from Cain. The dragon is more elemental, a nonhuman, antihuman
force of nature, as his weapon of choice—fire—immediately suggests.
Joe-3
The phrase ‘he bore God’s anger’ (godes yrre bær) is ambiguous: Grendel
is potentially both the recipient and the agent of God’s wrath. Likewise,
the following line links by alliteration two contrasting elements: ‘man’
(part of ‘mankind’, manna cynnes) and ‘wickedness’ (part of ‘wicked destroyer’,
manscaGa), by using a compound word that could, in theory, signal both a
‘wicked destroyer’ and a ‘destroyer of wickedness’; and, of course, Grendel
himself is shaped like a man. His human characteristics are highlighted by
the third alliterating element in the line, which focuses on the fact that
Grendel is not mindless: he intended (mynte) what he did, albeit that chillingly
the abritrariness of his frenzied intentions is itself signalled in the very
next line, where we learn that any ‘one’ (sumne) of mankind will do.
4. Beowulfov zmaj I nordijski mit (Thor I world-serpent). … two-troll motiv iz islandskih
saga.
Thor—isus—
ANDY. And if
by giving his life in defence of his people when he defeats the dragon Beowulf
may well reflect aspects of the monster-slaying pagan god Thor, it is important
to realise that his self-sacrifice also reflects that of a figure from a quite
different tradition, namely Christ
5. HROTHGAR
možda se grendel pojavljuje "samo" ovom kralju---- možda samo ovaj kralj nije sposoban riješit se
takvog zla. recimo da je grendel napadao i prethodne kraljeve: oni ili su se riješili grendela, ili bi svi
pomrli u pokušaju, što govori o kukavičluku i ne-germanskom temperamentu hrothgara i njegovog
naroda
da se donavežem, možda hrothgar i njegovi nisu zaslužili da uopće mogu pjevat o božjem stvaranju
svijeta i progonu čudovišta, možda su nedostojni, možda zato grendel i napada, jer zna da MOŽE
.
.
.
ANDY: It is striking to note that both of the biblical narratives explicitly alluded to in
Beowulf should be connected to Grendel and his kin; as Malcolm Godden has
remarked: ‘as Grendel is introduced by a reference to the Old Testament legend
which describes the origin of monsters, so his end is announced by an allusion to
the biblical myth of their destruction’.42 The first of the poet’s biblical allusions
comes as part of a complicated sequence describing the fateful consequences of
the building of Heorot (lines 86–114)
[Then the mighty spirit, who waited in the darkness, endured grievously
for a time that he heard each day joy, loud in the hall; there was the
sound of the harp, the clear voice of the poet. The one who could
recount from past ages the first-making of men spoke, said that the
Almighty created the earth, the fair bright plain which water encircles;
triumphing in might he set the sun and the moon as lamps to give light
to the dwellers on earth, and he adorned the earth’s corners with
branches and leaves; he also fashioned life for each of the kinds that
move around alive. So those noble men lived in joys, happily, until one
began to perform wicked deeds, a fiend in hell; the grim spirit was
called Grendel, a well-known wanderer in the borderland wastes, he
who inhabited the moors, the fens and the fastnesses; the unhappy man
dwelt for a while in the land of the monster-race, after the Creator had
condemned him as one of the kin of Cain: the eternal Lord avenged that
killing, because Cain slew Abel; he did not rejoice in that feud, but the
Creator cast him far out for that crime, away from mankind. Thence
arose all the evil breed: giants and elves and evil monsters, also those
gigantic ones who strove against God for a long time; he repaid them for
that.]
That Grendel should have been roused to wrath by Hrothgar’s poet singing a
song of Creation seems only fitting,44 especially if, as has been suggested,45
lines 99–101 can be read both with what precedes (so alluding to Satan and the
Fall) and with what follows (a simple reference to Grendel);46 certainly, similar
strategies appear to be used elsewhere in Beowulf.47 Typically, the Beowulf-poet
is able to encompass here in just a few lines both the spawning of the kin of Cain
(ealle onwocon, line 111b) and their destruction by God (he him ðæs lean
forgeald, line 114b).48
Andy kaže “Presumably, the Beowulf-poet is applying strict logic to the biblical tale: if the
Flood was sent to destroy monstrous creatures, then the only ones who could
survive were those who already inhabited watery depths“ ali andy ne može biti u pravu, zbog toga što
recimo zmaj nije vodeno čudovište, tako da je jedino objašnjenje (a andy ga sam spominje) Noin sin
Cham koji je „mudrost zla“ zapisao na metal i kamen prije Poplave.
[He gazed on the hilt, the ancient heirloom, on which had previously
been inscribed the origin of ancient struggle, when the flood, the
streaming ocean, slew the race of Giants (they suffered terribly [or ‘they
dared boldly’]); that was a race hostile to the eternal Lord; to them the
Ruler gave recompense through the surging of the water.]
That this inscribed weapon of the monstrous races should survive the Flood can
be paralleled in patristic sources: Cassian, for example, tells how Noah’s wicked
son, Cham, a latter-day Cain,51 inscribed on stone and metal his occult
wisdom:52
Quantum itaque traditiones ferunt, Cham filius Noe, qui superstitionibus istis
et sacrilegis ac profanis erat arttbus institutus, sciens nullum se posse super his
memorialem librum in arcam prorsus inferre, in qua erat una cum patre iusto
ac sanctis fratribus ingressusrus, scelestas artes ac profana commenta
diversorum metallorum lamminis, quae scilicet aquaraum conrumpi
inundatione non passent, et durissimis lapidibus insculpsit. Quae peracto
diluuio eadem quae celauerat curiositate perquirens sacrilegiorum ac
perpetuae nequitiae seminarium transmisit in posteros.
[Various traditions tell that Cham, the son of Noah, who was instructed in
those superstitions and sacrileges and profane arts, knowing that he could not
bring a book detailing these things into the Ark, in which he was about to go
with his righteous father and holy brothers, inscribed these wicked arts and
profane commentaries on sheets of various metals and on the hardest rocks,
which would not be harmed by the surge of waters. When the Flood was over
he sought them out with the same curiosity for sacrilegious things with which
he had hidden them, and transmitted the seeds of perpetual wickedness to
later generations.]
JOŠ JEDNA biblijska aluzija jest da se krv ne smije piti, ne daj bože zajedno krv i meso!!!!!
ANDY: But if the three scenes depicting Cain and the Flood are the only ones in
Beowulf where biblical allusion is unquestionable, it might be noted that further
Old Testament references may underlie other aspects of the activities of the kin
of Cain. So, for example, given the commonplace biblical injunctions against
140 A Critical Companion to ‘Beowulf’
51 On the conflation of roles between Cham and Cain, see, for example, Hamilton, ‘The Religious Principle
in Beowulf’, p. 320, n. 4; Donahue, ‘Grendel and the Clanna Cain’, p. 168. For an overview, see
Orchard, Pride and Prodigies, pp. 69–70.
52 Petschenig, ed., Iohannis Cassiani Conlationes, Conlatio VIII.xxi.7–8, pp. 239/27–240/10; cf.
Williams, Cain and Beowulf, p. 35.
53 See, for example, Köberl, ‘The Magic Sword in Beowulf’; Schrader, ‘The Language on the Giant’s
Sword Hilt in Beowulf’; Taylor, ‘Grendel’s Monstrous Arts’; Viswanathan, ‘On the Melting of the
Sword’; Whitman, ‘Corrosive Blood in Beowulf’.
54 Cf. the use of the Flood-motif in the Liber monstrorum above, pp. 133–7.
drinking blood,55 echoed in a range of Anglo-Saxon authors including Bede,
Alfred, Ælfric, and Wulfstan,56 a Christian Anglo-Saxon audience would have
found the description of Grendel’s eating-habits particularly loathsome (lines
739–45a):
Ne þæt se aglæca yldan þohte,
ac he gefeng hraðe forman siðe 740
slæpende rinc, slat unwearnum,
bat banlocan, blod edrum dranc,
synsnædum swealh; sona hæfde
unlyfigendes eal gefeormod,
fet ond folma. 745
[Nor did the awesome assailant think to delay, but he quickly seized at
the first opportunity a sleeping warrior, tore him greedily, bit the joints,
drank the blood from the veins, swallowed in sinful gulps [or ‘mighty
gulps’]; he had soon taken full care of the feet and hands of the unliving
man.]
ALI JEBEŠ SAMSONA, POANTA JEST U TOME ŠTO HROTHGAR NEMA 30 DOBRIH
VOJNIKA, ZATO ŠTO 30=30, ALI 30>30?!?!?!?
………………………………….unferth……………………..ringler!
It is possible, too, since Unferth holds an
official position at Hrothgar’s court—he is its spokesperson (ţyle 1165b,
1456b)—that he is a sort of proxy who expresses the corporate resentment
of all the Danes about their need to be rescued by a foreigner. This at least
is strongly suggested by certain features of Beowulf’s reply.
…
Only then does he turn his attention to Unferth and the Danes,
first saying something that is bound to rub Unferth the wrong way, and then
asserting that Unferth’s most glorious heroic deed to date is murdering his
brothers—an unredeemably evil act, from the Germanic point of view—an
act that puts him in the company of both Cain and Grendel and will ultimately
(Beowulf assures him) land him in hell: ………………..DANCI ZASLUŽILI GRENDELA!!!
…
And when he continues, his focus shifts
gradually from Unferth to the Danes whose mouthpiece Unferth is (at least
ex hypothesi), and he stresses their impotence and humiliation. He even turns
one of their honorific titles, “Victory Danes” (Sige-Scyldingas 597b), against
them in a masterstroke of sarcasm
(UNFERTH = GRENDEL ZBOG TOGA ŠTO BEOWULF NA UNFERTHU DEMONSTRIRA KAKO
NAMJERAVA POBIJEDITI GRENDELA)
ideja: možda tih 50 godina predstavlja Smrt iako je vrlo suspicious (Hrothgar ne umre)—
smrt je kaotična sama po sebi koliko je I uredna.
++++strukture, figure I devices mogu poslužiti za interpretaciju
++++prvi dio o pobjeđivanju polu-ljudskog čudovišta, odnosno zla, ali ako Grendel može
biti svladan, onda može I Beowulf, jer su oboje u suštini ljudska bića
RINGLER
The central, organizing narrative of Beowulf is obviously the story of the
hero’s life, achievements, and death.
…
juxtaposition and contrast, irony and pathos.
The main narrative falls into two parts that are concerned with two defining
moments in its protagonist’s life: his first great heroic achievement as a
young man, which won him wealth and fame and a high position in the aristocratic
society of his day, and his death as an old man fifty years later. There
is no transition between these two parts of the poem: they are deliberately
juxtaposed and sharply contrasted.
…
After this we are in altogether new territory. We never see Beowulf aging;
one moment he is young, vigorous, confident, crowned with success, and
looking forward to a promising future; the next moment—fifty years later!—
he is ancient, doubt-ridden, and doomed. This sudden juxtaposition gives us
a jolt that is nicely calculated to make us realize that no matter how much
time may elapse between our own youth and old age, it is really only the
blink of an eye, which is certainly how it feels in retrospect. This abrupt but
studied contrast of the hero’s youth and old age is thus part of the poet’s ongoing
insistence on the inevitability of reversal (edwenden) in human affairs.
A philosophical position—an interpretation of life—is being articulated here
through the use of structure. DEATH!!!!!!!!!!1
…
Unlike the first part,
with its cast of hopeful young warriors and its evocation of an optimistic
world in which evil can be thumpingly defeated and virtue brilliantly rewarded,
the second part is filled with old, depressed, doomed individuals:
…
if the first part of the poem is concerned with beginnings
(the creation of the world, the building of Heorot, the launching of Beowulf’s
heroic career), the second part is about endings (Beowulf’s death and
the end of both his family, the Wægmundings, and his people, the Geats, as
well as the end of the world).
…
Often the intended effect of these is to show
that nothing in the secular world lasts for very long, neither good fortune
nor bad, happiness nor sorrow, and that one of the things individuals must
always be prepared for is a reversal of their present situation. German university
students used to place a skull on the table around which they sat
drinking; this served as a memento mori, a reminder—at moments of intensest
pleasure and joy—of what life ultimately had in store for them. EVERYTHING ENDS!!!!
…
what the poet wants us to understand is that the moment Heorot has been
built and stands before us in its fresh and highly symbolic glory, it is already
as good as destroyed.
………………
Geats at Beowulf’s funeral watch their king’s body
being consumed by flames. DRAGON/FIRE – ELEMENTAL – DEATH!
ANDY:::::::: [‘So, under the skies, I ruled the Ring-Danes for fifty years, and
protected them in battle against many nations throughout this world,
with spears and swords, so that I did not reckon anyone an enemy to me
under the expanse of the sky. Yet in my homeland a reversal occurred,
grief after joy, once Grendel, the ancient adversary, became my invader;
I continually bore that persecution, great sorrow of heart. Thanks be to
the Creator, to the eternal Lord, that I should experience during my lifetime
that I might stare with my eyes on that blood-stained head after the
ancient struggle.’]
Hrothgar’s tragedy is that, after success abroad, he suffers reversal at home after
a fifty-year reign; it is in this context that he uses an apparently Christian turn of
phrase, describing Grendel as his ‘ancient adversary’ (ealdgewinna, line
1776a).155 The cogency of Hrothgar’s warning is underlined by the poet’s repetition
of precisely the same pattern in the cases of Grendel’s mother, attacked at
home after her successful raid of Heorot at the end of her fifty-year reign (lines
1497–8), and, later, Beowulf himself, who reigns for fifty years after his
successes abroad, but is attacked at home by the dragon (lines 2208b–2211).156
If Hrothgar is ostensibly here preaching to Beowulf on the dangers of pride, then
the Beowulf-poet is implicitly preaching to us all.157
………..
we are told that
when Beowulf could see the bottom, Grendel’s mother ‘immediately perceived
it’ (Sona þæt onfunde, line 1497a); likewise we learn that Grendel’s mother, like
Hrothgar before Grendel’s first attack, like Beowulf himself before that of the
dragon, had governed her domain for fifty years.
------TOLKIEN: man at war with the hostile world, and his inevitable overthrow in Time
…………..
It is just because the main foes in ,c.
Beowulf are inhuman that the story is larger and more significant
than this imaginary poem of a great Eng's fall. It glimpses the cosmic
and moves with the thought of all men concerning the fate of human
life and efforts; it stands amid but above the petty wars of princes,
and surpasses the dates and limits of historical periods, however
important. (smrt---kozmika i simbolika, vrijeme i ukupna SMRTNOST)
JOE-3
Beowulf seems a poem less
about action than about reaction, less about conflict than about the aftermath
of conflict, less about little victories and tiny triumphs than about the
great defeat of death that awaits us all.
9. Mamica!!!!!!
Koja je poanta mamice? Da treba sažalijevati I čudovišta, iako smo im neprijatelji? A možda
pjesnik kroz čitav ep izjednačava beowulfa, sigemunda, hygelaca itd s čudovištima…
Dolazak mamice je kao minijaturna verzija grendelovog dolaska, I ni približno tako pun terora.
Je li to zato što je ŽENSKO, ili zato što ona tu nije zbog terora kao terora I zadovoljavanjem
unutarnjeg zla, nego zbog LJUBAVI prema sinu?
JOE-3 (sympathy)
While each monster evokes profound terror for the
destruction they bring, each can also stir our pity, if we see things from their
point of view. The poet appears to encourage us to do just this.
JOE-3 (osveta, feud, Germanic code – but does it apply to monsters who are OUTLAWS? Je li
onda Beowulf ujedno I kritika za takav poganski kod? Želi li poet reći da zlodjelo rezultira
mnogim drugim zlodjelima?)
Yet if Grendel’s motivation for his killing spree is somewhat nebulous,
albeit, apparently, not wholly without provocation, given the incursion of
the Danes into the fens that he thought were his, the motive of Grendel’s
mother is entirely clear: vengeance. Unlike Grendel, who for some real or
imagined affront carries on killing until he is stopped, Grendel’s mother,
who is honour bound to extract vengeance in the apparent absence of any
surviving male relative, offers a measured and strictly limited response: in
return for her dead son she kills a single Dane, namely Æschere, Hrothgar’s
closest friend. The poet is at pains to describe her trip for vengeance as a
‘sorrowful journey’, again apparently playing both sides: her sorrow will
cause further sorrow for Hrothgar, until Beowulf, arguably extending the
feud by his action, puts an end to misery for both her and the Danes.
FEUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 RINGLER
It was typical of feuds in early Germanic society that as their tit-for-tat violence
continued it tended to move up the social scale, claiming ever more
prestigious victims.24 This escalation of a typical feud seems to be represented
in Beowulf, in symbolic fashion, by the “buried” climax sequence under
discussion here, and which may be represented as follows:
— the Danes lose a mitten or glove (the name of Beowulf’s companion
who was killed by Grendel is Hondscioh [cf. German Handschuh],
which literally means “hand-shoe”) [4152].25
— the Grendel clan loses a hand (Grendel’s) [1940].
— the Danes lose first a hand (Hrothgar’s confidant Æschere, who is
called a “hand” [2686] by synecdoche, because he hands out treasure
to his followers), then a head (Æschere’s [2842]).
— the monsters lose a head (Grendel’s [3180]), which brings the
vengeance cycle to a close (and does so at almost the exact halfway
point of the text—a striking fact).
Andy:::::::: The parallel between Grendel’s attack on Heorot, and Beowulf’s attack on the
‘hall’ (niðsele, line 1513a; hrofsele, line 1515a) of Grendel’s mother, complete
with the homely touch of fire-light, surely makes it most likely that he (rather
than the sea-beasts) is the aglæcan referred to in line 1512.116 At this point,
Beowulf attempts to bring Hrunting into play, striking Grendel’s mother on the
head, but the previously trusty weapon is simply not up to the task (lines
1522b–1528
………………..
That Beowulf is described as a ‘guest’ (gist, line 1422b; cf. selegyst, line 1545a)
in this hall, just like Grendel had been in Heorot, only underlines the parallel,
whilst the fact that Beowulf is unable to penetrate the skin of Grendel’s mother
and ‘harm life’ (aldre sceþðan, line 1524a) only echoes the impervious nature
both of Grendel in Heorot, and of Beowulf’s own mailcoat, which he dons
explicitly so that nothing can penetrate and ‘harm life’ (aldre gesceþðan, line
1447b).
ANDY::::::
[He who, fine in his manly virtues, had endured a great number of
battles, war-clamours, when the foot-troops clashed, saw by the wall a
stone arch stand, and a stream break out from the mountain-side there.
The bubbling of that stream was hot with deadly fires; he could not
without burning endure the depths near the hoard for any length of time,
because of the dragon’s flame.]
Wordplay underlines the extent to which the fiery surges of the dragon’s flame
resemble streams of mountain water (burnan . . . unbyrnende, lines 2546b and
2548a), and, just as with the monster-mere, the combination of fire and water
may well suggest the familiar imagery of Doomsday.105 Certainly, just as
Grendel is roused by the sound of a human voice, so too is the dragon enraged
by Beowulf’s battle-cry (lines 2550–6a); once again references to Beowulf’s
shield are common in the passage that describes the first encounter between
Beowulf and the dragon (lines 2559–75a):106
grendel……………………… [But that beast is said to be amongst the fiercest of all brutes, in which they
assert that there is such a quantity of venom that lions fear it although it is an
animal of weaker body, and they reckon that its poison has such strength, that
the cutting-edge even of iron, dipped in it, melts.]
Such a creature seems to share this curious quality with Grendel, whose blood
likewise causes the blade of the giant sword to melt, an image of which the
Beowulf-poet gives two descriptions, first in his own voice (lines 1605b–1617),
and then in Beowulf’s (lines 1666b–1668a). The accounts of the melting of what
the poet calls ‘an ancient sword made by giants’ (ealdsweord eotenisc, line
1558a)29 and Beowulf calls ‘an ancient and mighty sword’ (ealdsweord eacen,
line 1663a),30 are strikingly similar; Beowulf’s much briefer description has a
number of unmistakable echoes of the earlier version by the poet, especially the
simple statement that ‘the decorated weapon burnt up’, which is repeated
almost verbatim
13. ZMAAAAAAAJO (volja božija?) (zmajeva osveta: osveta osveta osveta?)
Ringler!!!!!!!!!
Grendel and
his mother, though they are human in origin, represent grotesque distortions
of humanity. Grendel, for example, can be interpreted as a projection (and
symbol) of humanity’s proclivity to violence, as is clearly implied by his descent
from Cain. The dragon is more elemental, a nonhuman, antihuman
force of nature, as his weapon of choice—fire—immediately suggests.
RINGLER
Geats at Beowulf’s funeral watch their king’s body
being consumed by flames. (zmaj je zbog vatre poistovjećen s normalnom smrću—nije bitno je li beowulf
izgorio od zmajeve ili ljudske vatre, bitno je da vatra predstavlja normalan završni stadij života, a to je
smrt! Nešto prirodno)
Ruth-6
it does not take long for
a treasure-hunting dragon to find it. Why? Because it is his nature to do
so (2275). Fish swim, birds fly, and dragons sniff out gold hoards. The
dragon is only doing what dragons do.
NATURE OF DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!
RUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-----------ruth-6
Chinese dragons are peaceful and wise,
the totems of the Imperial dynasties. They only want to do good for the
people and are worshipped. They have beards and tusks, and they do not
have wings, although in some stories they can fly. European dragons, in
contrast, are rotten to the core. They have wings, and usually they can
spout flames. They eat livestock, and in later stones they eat young girls.
Having a dragon in the neighborhood is a disaster, and it is imperative
to kill the dragon as soon as possible.
…. (european + acts by nature—elemental!! + GERMANIC people not sympathetic about the third
monster because treasure is not for hoarding but giving as deserved)
the L/7)cr Moustroruni describes serpents
that contain some of the traits of mythical dragons. Some are 120 feet
long, some have poisonous breath, some are studded with emeralds, and
some are born in cold lands and roam the rocky land looking for hiding
places and food. If a dragon is a type of serpent, then here might be some
details; and yet, they are never called dragons ("draca").
The dragon of Beowulf, then, is one of the earliest detailed portraits
of a European dragon. It is clearly an animal: it acts by nature, not by
intelligent thought. It does not appear to talk; at least, there is no reported
speech. It is long (fifty feet) and thin, and it can crawl on the ground,
perhaps smelling for the trail of the thief. Its chief trait is its fond attachment
to its treasure, almost an obsession. We do not know what this
dragon eats, but we do know precisely its animal reaction on finding its
cup missing. When it cannot find the exact thief, it takes to the air
(although wings are not described, the dragon can fly). It breathes fire,
and thus burns up towns and halls. Fire is the dragon's chief weapon, but
it has also sharp teeth and jaws large enough to bite a man's neck. Beyond
that, its bite is poisonous, like a snake's. The most surprisingly animal
trait of the dragon is that it is shy; until now, it has never sought out
mankind, and it is shocked and frightened at seeing Beowulf.
The Geats, and the Anglo-Saxon audience, were sympathetic to the
motive of revenge, but not if it was a dragon's. Why was the dragon's
passion for burning towns in payment of his missing cup not a sympathetic
emotion? Think back over the many actions and stories throughout
this poem. One of the morals that the characters and the narrator are
always voicing is that treasure is for giving. No one who hoards treasure
will find sympathy. Revenge is for someone's death, but it is not for the
loss of treasure. Treasure is to be used to create bonds of loyalty,
although in itself it is lovely and precious. Hoarding it is just plain and,
in their view, the dragon's anger is no excuse for its destructiveness.
(vidi beowulf-thor --- sve krepava (vidi tolkiena) --- tolkien se osvrnuo na nordijsku mitologiju gdje i
bogovi moraju umrijet, pa eto tako i beowulf, i to zmaj)
****VOOOOLLJAAAAAA BOŽIIIIIJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA***
JOE-3
the doomed and ageing Beowulf is depicted as frozen
in melancholy contemplation of what he has done to deserve this attack
…
the
poet goes out of his way to describe the thief who had stirred the dragon’s
wrath in the first place as ‘undoomed’, in a curious comment about how
even a thief can be spared in the name of God that makes it seem as if the
whole episode, culminating in Beowulf’s death, is simply unfolding according
to God’s will.
And Beowulf’s triumph consists not only in killing a monster that has been
ravaging his country and people; it consists equally in the fact that he has
been able to “open the hoard” (hord openian 3056b), bringing its long-hidden
wealth back to the light of day where men can look on it again.59 He
thereby frustrates the design of the “heathen lords” who buried the treasure
and hedged it about with lethal spells
so that no man on earth
could come near the hoard
or gain its gold. (6105–7)
It is worth pausing here for a moment to point out that the poet’s attitude
toward riches and treasure is always ambiguous. He approves of them when
they circulate in the bright, daylight world of heroic enterprise, awarded by
leaders to their followers as a badge of distinction and a symbol of their worth
or value (3799–3805). On the other hand, he views them with deep suspicion
when they function as what we might call the “objective correlative” of the
psychological need for vengeance, symbolically embodying this need and
spurring people to vengeful activity (4048–4132). And he has no use at all for
treasure when people bury it and try to keep it hidden, thereby inviting the
attention of dragon guardians (who are perhaps projections of its malevolent
influence). In any event, burying treasure is a completely futile activity,
for heathen gold
easily thwarts
efforts by men
to hide it forever,
hard though they try. (5528–32)
All of this contributes to the considerable irony that pervades the end of
the poem. A minute or two before his death, Beowulf, lying on the ground
mortally wounded, is justly proud of having won a great treasure for his
people and sends Wiglaf back into the dragon’s mound to fetch a portion of
it out into the open for him to look at. But his people have a different idea
of what to do with it and decide to commit the whole treasure to the flames
of the king’s burial pyre (6020–24). The irony is further amplified when they
decide to re-inter it with him in his barrow:
they buried all of it
back in the ground,
that unlucky gold,
where it lives today
as idle and vain
as it ever was. (6331–36)
“Idle and vain”—that is the poet’s comment on this particular buried treasure
and probably (by extension) on all buried treasure. Moreover, there is
something ominous and even a little frightening about his calculated use of
the word “lives” (lifađ 3167b) in this passage: this is not a verb that is normally
used in Old English of inanimate things, and its use here implies that
this gold is somehow “alive” and will continue to lurk in the ground, an evil
presence waiting for the day when future men uncover it once again, enabling
it to charm and enslave them and cause more havoc.
…
…
…
…. - svrha zlata je nagrađivanje
- zavist i glad za zlatom i zakapanje i čuvanje zlata je loše
- zmaj projekcija ljudske potrebe za zlatom
- beowulf ponosan što je osvojio hordu zlata za svoj narod - želi gletati to zlato dok umire
(kralj...... narod mu nije zaslužio to)
- zlato "idle and vain" - lives today
- beowulf idle and vain? U SVAKOM SLUČAJU, zlato potvrda njegovog herojstva.
15. HEROJ, NE KRALJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ringler
RINGLER
It is customary to approach Beowulf as a mixture or synthesis of legend
(“fabulous elements”) and lore (“historical elements”). The poet, or the tradition
he represents, has fused these elements so seamlessly together that neither
can be disengaged from the other without producing a very different
—and essentially crippled—work. Not that people do not try to disengage
them: we often see in comic-book or motion-picture redactions of the poem
the elimination of as many of its “historical elements” as possible, and in
hard-nosed rationalistic criticism there is sometimes an inclination to discount
the “fabulous elements” as not worthy of the attention of serious
people.
C2!!!£t and
sob~ayrefuse to admit that there can be an interest for usthe
proud we that includes all intelligent living people-in ogres ~nd
dragons; \\Te then perceive its puzzlement in face of the odd fact that
i~rivedgreat pleasure from a poem that is actually about these
unfashionable creatures. Even though it attributes 'genius', as does
Mr Girvan, to the author, it cannot admit that the monsters are
anything but a sad mistake.
Samo dva zmaja u sjevernjačkim književnostima tog doba.
NECESSITY OF MONSTERS
I would suggest, then, that the monsters are not an inexpljcabJ~
blunder of taste; the are essential, fundamentally allied to the\it.J
underlYIng ideas· of the poem, which give it its 0 tone an . h
serIousness.
The monsters had been the foes of the gods, captains of men,
and within Time the monsters would win. In the heroic siege and
last defeat men and gods alike had been imagined in the same host.
Now the heroic figures, the men of old, hreleo under heofenum,
remained and still fought on until defeat. For the monsters do not
depart, whether the gods go or come. A Christian was (and is) still
like his forefathers a mortal hemmed in a hostile world. The monsters
remaIned the enemIes of mankind, the infantry of the old war,
and became inevitably the enemies of the one God, ece Dryhten, the
eternal Captain of the new.
…………………………
man, each man and all men, and all their works shall
die
18. GRENDEL
(titles)
Grendel is called by other titles. He is referred
to as the "bold demon," the "fiend from Hell," the "grim spirit," but also
the "miserable man" (86—105). He is the "unholy creature," the "great
ravager," and the "foe of mankind" (120—164). His titles tend to describe
his murderous streak (like "evil marauder" [712]) or his moral evil (like
"Shepherd of sins" [750] or "God's adversary" [786]). But the title most
often used is the simplest: he is "asglaeca," meaning the awesome one.
19. Wyrd
The narrator suggests a deep faith in God in this passage. Both Beowulf
and the narrator's voice state that God rules over all and will give the victory
as he wishes. …………….RUTH-4
RUTH-6
Recall the youthful Beowulf's words (572—573) as he
told about his contest with Breca: "Wyrd [Fate] often spares an undoomed
man, when his courage endures!" Gourage alone is not enough, but
without it, doom is sure. Even with courage, sometimes Fate will bring
about a man's death, because it is his time to die.
READING BEOWULF (HEANEY) NOTES
- Pride. Acting God, therefore God's punishment? If you can act God, can you get rid of
monsters like He did/does? Perhaps fine with the Anglo-Saxons, but a good Christian
king should not dedicate the rest of his days to partying—go and do something useful!?
- 30 men! But even if they were drunk and „insensible,“ it only tells us more about the
famous Danes!
- Pagans.
- Beowulf v. Grendel
- Juxtaposition and contrast to present the poet's view of life and death: there is no
creation without destruction, and death is always inevitable. (See: building of Heorot.)
- Description of Mummy. Avanger!!! There is the difference between her and Grendel:
she is more human—she kills to avenge and satisfy her anger and sorrow.
- Subtlety and shiftiness of the Beowulf-poet—what does the Christian poet really think of
these rather Pagan and inhumane ways? (Feud and vengeance.)
- Shiftiness of the poet!!! (Plus his view of treasure from the end of the poem.)
- Remember Cham.
Beowulf in his fury
now settled that score: he saw the monster
in his resting place, war-weary and wrecked,
a lifeless corpse, a casualty
of the battle in Heorot. The body gaped
at the stroke dealt to it after death:
Beowulf cut the corpse's head off.
…
Meanwhile, the sword
began to wilt into gory icicles,
to slather and thaw. It was a wonderful thing,
the way it all melted as ice melts
when the Father eases the fetters off the frost
and unravels the water-ropes. He who wields power
over time and tide: He is the true Lord.
- Fiend, singular. Mummy is much less important or threatening than Sonny. (Plus, it is
his head displayed again at Heorot; her body left entirely in the lake.)
- Heremod contrasted to Beowulf. Remember the textbook wanna-be theory and how it
affected Beowulf as a hero and king in the end.
- A strong foreshadowing of Beowulf’s future. DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRIDE, and yet
he does—he takes pride in his past heroic deeds; he himself built a Heorot equivalent;
almost dead, he does not gaze at his people but gold. “Strength is in bloom but it fades
quickly; (…) Or sudden fire—”
afterwards
the wide kingdom
reverted to Beowulf. He ruled it well
for fifty winters, grew old and wise
as warden of the land
until one began
to dominate the dark, a dragon on the prowl
from the steep vaults of a stone-roofed barrow
where he guarded a hoard; there was a hidden passage,
unknown to men, but someone managed
to enter by it and interfere
with the heathen trove. He had handled and removed
a gem-studded goblet; it gained him nothing,
though with a thief's wiles he had outwitted
the sleeping dragon; that drove him into rage,
as the people of that country would soon discover.
- Dragon awakens.
- Again, foreshadowing. Geats are about to become extinct like this forgotten race, and
Beowulf will enjoy the treasure briefly only like the last man.
- Unlike the two previous monsters, the dragon is purely animalistic, built on instinct only,
natural yet symbolic, elemental. There is nothing human about the dragon.
So may a man not marked by fate
easily escape exile and woe
by the grace of God.
The hoard-guardian
scorched the ground as he scoured and hunted
for the trespasser who had troubled his sleep.
Hot and savage, he kept circling and circling
the outside of the mound. No man appeared
in that desert waste, but he worked himself up
by imagining battle; then back in he'd go
in search of the cup, only to discover
signs that someone had stumbled upon
the golden treasures. So the guardian of the mound,
the hoard-watcher, waited for the gloaming
with fierce impatience; his pent-up fury
at the loss of the vessel made him long to hit back
and lash out in flames. Then, to his delight,
the day waned and he could wait no longer
behind the wall, but hurtled forth
in a fiery blaze. The first to suffer
were the people on the land, but before long
it was their treasure-giver who would come to grief.
Now I am old,
but as king of the people I shall pursue this fight
for the glory of winning, if the evil one will only
abandon his earth-fort and face me in the open."
- No true protector of his people. Proud. Does things for fame, the “glory of winning,” not
to save the Geats.
- Stupid in his pride and heroism. Selfish. Insensible. Gold-hoarder himself in a way.
- Dragon agitated by human voice, while Grendel is agitated by humanety in the voice of
humans.
He picked us out
from the army deliberately, honoured us and judged us
fit for this action, made me these lavish gifts-
and all because he considered us the best
of his arms-bearing thanes
- If they are hand-picked, the best of the warriors, what are the others like?! How should
they ever defend themselves?
- Wrong values!? How is giving away treasure to his undeserving thanes more important
than teaching them how to survive, for example? Christian critique?
- Perhaps the defeat of Beowulf, the Geats later, and the dragon is the defeat of
Christianity over paganism?