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Electrical
Electrical Thumb
Thumb Rules
Rules You
You MUST
MUST Follow
Follow (Part
(Part 1)
1)

Electrical Thumb Rules For:


Cable Capacity
Current Capacity of Equipment
Earthing Resistance

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Minimum Bending Radius


Insulation Resistance
Lighting Arrestor
Transformer
Diesel Generator
Current Transformer
Quick Electrical Calculation

Cable Capacity
For Cu Wire Current Capacity (Up to 30
Sq.mm) = 6X Size of Wire in Sq.mm
Ex. For 2.5 Sq.mm = 6×2.5 = 15 Amp, For 1
Sq.mm = 6×1 = 6 Amp, For 1.5 Sq.mm = 6×1.5
= 9 Amp
For Cable Current Capacity = 4X Size of Cable
in Sq.mm, Ex. For 2.5 Sq.mm = 4×2.5 = 9 Amp.
Nomenclature for cable Rating = Uo/U
where Uo = Phase-Ground Voltage, U = Phase-
Phase Voltage, Um = Highest Permissible
Voltage

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Current Capacity of Equipment


1 Phase Motor draws Current = 7Amp per HP.
3 Phase Motor draws Current = 1.25Amp per
HP.
Full Load Current of 3 Phase Motor = HPx1.5
Full Load Current of 1 Phase Motor = HPx6
No Load Current of 3 Phase Motor = 30% of
FLC
KW Rating of Motor = HPx0.75
Full Load Current of equipment = 1.39xKVA
(for 3 Phase 415Volt)

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Full Load Current of equipment = 1.74xKw (for


3 Phase 415Volt)

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Earthing Resistance
Earthing Resistance for Single Pit = 5Ω,
Earthing Grid = 0.5Ω
As per NEC 1985 Earthing Resistance should
be < 5Ω.
Voltage between Neutral and Earth <= 2 Volt
Resistance between Neutral and Earth <= 1Ω
Creepage Distance = 18 to 22mm/KV (Moderate
Polluted Air) or
Creepage Distance = 25 to 33mm/KV (Highly
Polluted Air)

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Minimum Bending Radius


Minimum Bending Radius for LT Power Cable
= 12 x Dia of Cable.
Minimum Bending Radius for HT Power Cable
= 20 x Dia of Cable.
Minimum Bending Radius for Control Cable
= 10 x Dia of Cable.

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Insulation Resistance
Insulation Resistance Value for Rotating
Machine = (KV+1) MΩ.
Insulation Resistance Value for Motor (IS 732)
= ((20xVoltage (L-L)) / (1000+ (2xKW)).
Insulation Resistance Value for Equipment
(<1KV) = Minimum 1 MΩ.
Insulation Resistance Value for Equipment
(>1KV) = KV 1 MΩ per 1KV.
Insulation Resistance Value for Panel = 2 x
KV rating of the panel.
Min Insulation Resistance Value (Domestic) =
50 MΩ / No of Points. (All Electrical Points with
Electrical fitting & Plugs). Should be less than
0.5 MΩ
Min Insulation Resistance Value (Commercial)
= 100 MΩ / No of Points. (All Electrical Points
without fitting & Plugs).Should be less than 0.5
MΩ.
Test Voltage (A.C) for Meggering = (2X Name
Plate Voltage) +1000
Test Voltage (D.C) for Meggering = (2X Name
Plate Voltage).
Submersible Pump Take 0.4 KWH of extra
Energy at 1 meter drop of Water.

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Lighting Arrestor
Arrestor have Two Rating:

1. MCOV=Max. Continuous Line to Ground Operating


Voltage.

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2. Duty Cycle Voltage. (Duty Cycle Voltage > MCOV).

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Transformer
Current Rating of Transformer = KVA x 1.4
Short Circuit Current of T.C /Generator =
Current Rating / % Impedance
No Load Current of Transformer =< 2% of
Transformer Rated current
Capacitor Current (Ic) = KVAR / 1.732xVolt
(Phase-Phase)
Typically the local utility provides transformers
rated up to 500kVA For maximum connected
load of 99kW,
Typically the local utility provides transformers
rated up to 1250kVA For maximum connected
load of 150kW.
The diversity they would apply to apartments is
around 60%
Maximum HT (11kV) connected load will be
around 4.5MVA per circuit.
4No. earth pits per transformer (2No. for body
and 2No. for neutral earthing),
Clearances, approx.1000mm around TC allow for
transformer movement for replacement.

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Diesel Generator
Diesel Generator Set Produces = 3.87 Units
(KWH) in 1 Litter of Diesel.
Requirement Area of Diesel Generator = for
25KW to 48KW = 56 Sq.meter, 100KW = 65
Sq.meter.

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DG less than or equal to 1000kVA must be in a


canopy.
DG greater 1000kVA can either be in a canopy
or skid mounted in an acoustically treated room
DG noise levels to be less than 75dBA at 1
meter.
DG fuel storage tanks should be a maximum of
990 Litter per unit. Storage tanks above this
level will trigger more stringent explosion
protection provision.

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Current Transformer
Nomenclature of CT:

Ratio: input / output current ratio


Burden (VA): total burden including pilot wires.
(2.5, 5, 10, 15 and 30VA.)
Class: Accuracy required for operation
(Metering: 0.2, 0.5, 1 or 3, Protection: 5, 10, 15,
20, 30).
Accuracy Limit Factor:
Nomenclature of CT: Ratio, VA Burden, Accuracy
Class, Accuracy Limit Factor.Example: 1600/5,
15VA 5P10 (Ratio: 1600/5, Burden: 15VA,
Accuracy Class: 5P, ALF: 10)
As per IEEE Metering CT: 0.3B0.1 rated
Metering CT is accurate to 0.3 percent if the
connected secondary burden if impedance does
not exceed 0.1 ohms.
As per IEEE Relaying (Protection) CT:
2.5C100 Relaying CT is accurate within 2.5
percent if the secondary burden is less than 1.0
ohm (100 volts/100A).

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Quick Electrical Calculation


1HP = 0.746KW Star Connection
1KW = 1.36HP Line Voltage = √3 Phas
Voltage
1Watt = 0.846 Kla/Hr Line Current = Phase
Current
1Watt = 3.41 BTU/Hr
BTU/Hr Delta Connection
1KWH = 3.6 MJ Line Voltage = Phase
Voltage
1Cal = 4.186 J Line Current = √3 Phas
Current
1Tone = 3530 BTU
85 Sq.ft Floor Area = 1200
BTU
1Kcal = 4186 Joule
1KWH = 860 Kcal
1Cal = 4.183 Joule

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96 Comments

load calculation of3.5*300 sq mm al.


cable
Nanhey
Lal (reply)
(reply)
Chauhan
JJA
ANN 1133,, 22001199

For single core house wiring to 1.5 sq.


Mm. How much current take ?
Pramod
D
DEEC
C 3311,, 22001188 (reply)
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2800KW, 12Amps 1 phase AC load


and distance between incoming supply
N source to load point is 1500mtr. Cable
Satyanaray laid in under ground and HDPE pipe.
N
NOOV
V 1166,, 22001188
now can you please suggest cable size
and voltage drop calculation

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How to select ct burden when current


1000A and voltage 433 v for metering
Avinash and capacitor panel realy operating
Lahane purpose.
O
OCCTT 3311,, 22001188

Regards
Avinash Lahane
M-9225305991

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i want to replace 4c*6sqmm copper


armed cable with aluminium armed
YECHURI cable can u suggest the thickness of
SAI AKHIL aluminium cable .and also i want to
KUMAR
O
OCCTT 1144,, 22001188 replace 3c*4sq mm copper with
aluminium can u please suggest the
thicknesses of aluminium cable

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How to calculate the full load current of


a 3 phase submersible,440V?
Samrat
Sinh Jhala (reply)
(reply)
S
SEEP
P 1133,, 22001188

Sir
What are the details of motor installed
Somasunda in washing machine to be found out to
N select strength of wire ie. 2.5 s.qm or
S
SEEP
P 0044,, 22001188
4.5 sq.m or 1.5 sq.m wire to give
power supply?

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whether 15 amp.plug and socket can


be powered with 1.5 sq.m flexible wire
already given for 5 amp socket in the
boar or more than 1.5 sq. metre
strength wire to be used?

your kind reply will be useful for me.

Somasundaram N

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Dear Sir
Can We use 4mmx4core copper
Sushil armoured cable for 10HP motor
Kumar coupled with 60LPM hyraulic pump.
A
AUUG
G 0033,, 22001188
Application is for chopping/cutting of
scrap sheet after blanking

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Can I use 25x2x0.75sqmm


twisted,shielded cable instead of
Nilesh 50×0.75sqmm shielded cable?
JJU
ULL 2200,, 22001188
Application :- I need to transmit
230VAC power from stepper drives to
motor.

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SIR,
FOR 100 KW SOLAR PLANT CAN I
SIVAKUMA USE 4C*70 SQ.MM(COPPER) TELL
GK ME ITS ENOUGH.FROM ACDB TO
JJU
UNN 0066,, 22001188
EXISTING PANEL
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Hi fella,

Gnanaguru I came across this website and got lost


M
MAY
AY 1166,, 22001188 in wire Vs cable hurricane :) Later in
comments I’ve seen cables AKA
“bunch of wires” explanation. Where I
got stuck is, according to your
statement

“Cable Current Capacity = 4X Size of


Cable in Sq.mm, Ex. For 6 Sq.mm =
4×6= 24 Amp.”

Yet in the mean time, I’ve witnessed


mine sq.mm wire stood against the
current capacity of around 28A for
nearly 30minutes!!! Its details are
Unsheated,Copper made,No. of
wires/Wire dia metre=85/.30. So I’m
expecting 6xSize in sq.mm instead of
4XSize in sq.mm. So I want you to
clearly tell me what does wire Vs cable
means?

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its really helpful i am very thank full to


you for your this kind of act.
Ahmad
Ayaz (reply)
(reply)
M
MAY
AY 1122,, 22001188

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hi
finaly i found nice web site to improve
Ansari my knowledge. i have to know if i
M
MAAR
R 3300,, 22001188
communicates RS485 data with 1.5sq
mm 2 core twisted wire without sheld
and run the wire 60 mtrs what will
happen.
pls advice

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Here we using the load 3.6Amps and


the same we are using the wire
Vignesh 2.5Sq.mm.If it is ok or we need to
M
MAAR
R 2244,, 22001188
change.

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Hi,

Aniesh We have the Main Panel MCCB of


Mathew 400A 4P and the load is 120kVA. The
M
MAAR
R 1188,, 22001188
client has provided raw power using 4
core 95Sqmm Aluminum Armoured
cable. Please let me know whether the
raw power cable is fine for our load?

Also what is the load 95sqmm can


take?

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Hi,

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According to load the cable size is


good enough, and the cable can
carry up to 220A current which
Arvind
YADAV means 120Kw or 140KVA
M
MAY
AY 1122,, 22001188

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Thanks. Very effective information.


Please give me a clear idea how can I
HM find the contactor rating & over load
Khyruzzama relay rating for Star-delta Starter. Give
FFE
EBB 0033,, 22001188
me this example for 30kW motor.

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Very useful make PDF and publish for


download
Dilip Wade
D
DEEC
C 3300,, 22001177 (reply)
(reply)

Please correct 2.5×4 = 9Amps to =


10Amps.
Vijay in cable current capacity thumb rule.
Kumar Job
D
DEEC
C 1188,, 22001177
(reply)
(reply)

Intresting and educative forum for


power engineers
Bello
Babayo (reply)
(reply)
D
DEEC
C 1122,, 22001177

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This forum is indeed amazing quite


educative.
Benson Keep up the good work.
Barasa Thank you.
A
AUUG
G 0066,, 22001177

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Sir, How do the GEB pole lines are


identified for phase , neutral and
Pn Iyengar earthing. Reason for my asking is all
JJU
ULL 3311,, 22001177
the lines ( Either 3 or 5 for single and 3
phase ) are same and there is no
distinction. Recently in our street light
pole tuble light connection, an
electricians has given some wrong
connection by joining 2 wires either in
phase or in neutral. Because of this
many of our street people have lost TV,
Fridge, AC, Digital wall clock etc. The
GEB officials said that Munipal
contractor has done the mistake while
rectifying the defect in the pole street
light. This is the reason why want to
know for easy identification of these
Phase, Neutral and Earthing wires of
GEB Pole. pls. explain with sketch or
drawing for easy understanding.

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Dear Sir,

Joseph Would you please advise how can I


Puduvala connect 2 numbers of single phase
JJU
ULL 0022,, 22001177
3000VA 230V 50 HZ UPS

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in Parallel for redundancy… Appreciate


your early response

Thanks and regards


Joseph Puduvala

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Hi,

Vinay These single phase ups can be


Kumar connect in parallel only when there
N
NOOV
V 1155,, 22001177
Output voltage and frequency are
same. so please communicate with
service provider to set voltage and
frequency of both ups on same
value and then your can synchronize
the ups.

Regards

Vinay kumar

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It’s awesome page..I love to visit the


page but there are no answers posted
Arun for all the questions asked by the
A
APPR
R 2255,, 22001177
Engineers..And I would love to join this
group on LinkedIn or FB to gain some
knowledge about the EEE.Thank you
so much guys for your time and
patience.
Anyone please suggest me a book or a
site to learn from basics to the core
subject of Electrical Engineering

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including the calculations.


.You guys TC!!

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Current capacity of aluminium cable

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Akshihs
A
APPR
R 2211,, 22001177

Hi i have a question
we require 100KVA DG as part of the
Sreenath factory setup can anyone explain how
FFE
EBB 1155,, 22001177
much capacity of transformer will be
needed, is there a possibility to
determine the transformer capacity
based on the DG or let me know if you
need the machinery list thanks in
advance

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Hi,

Vinay To calculate capacity of


Kumar Transformer,you have to calculate
N
NOOV
V 1155,, 22001177
the load of plant and also consider
extension of load in future. then
maximum load should be less than
80% of transformer capacity.It does
not depend on your D.G availability.

Thanks
Vinay

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In a 3 phase motor we use 10 mm


cable one phase taking 40 amp for
Shahzad example how much total current of
M
MAAR
R 11
11,, 22001188
this motor

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Can you give motors equations for


Induction motors, DC Motors ect.
Rohan
Weerarathn (reply)
(reply)
JJA
ANN 2233,, 22001177

What is equivalent size of cable will be


used for earthing of DG sets and
Yogender Transformer instead of cu /GI strip
JJA
ANN 0055,, 22001177
Is considered the same cross sectional
area or how to calculate

(reply)
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Esteemed sir

Mubbashir I want to know how to calculate current


D
DEEC
C 2277,, 22001166 carrying capacity per square mm Arial
bunched cable.

(reply)
(reply)

Sir, please give details about how to


bend an earth cable to be connected to
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diesel generator of 25 KVA. Give me


an idea how to bend it.

Franco (reply)
(reply)
George
D
DEEC
C 2222,, 22001166

Dear Sir,
I want to know what is required AC
Muktinath cable size (in sqmm) for solar on grid
Shil 3phase 12.5kW inverter for inverter to
D
DEEC
C 1166,, 22001166
ACDB?

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4cx16 sqmm Cu.

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Atul
M
MAY
AY 11
11,, 22001188

We have infrared lamp resin curing


plant & paper dryers. Total load is 330
Ravindra KW. Connected with neutral and 3
Raghuwans phases i.e.each phase will have a load
D
DEEC
C 0066,, 22001166
of 110 kw. Current 500 amp. What
should the cable size and 3.5 core or 4
core. We will prefer copper.

(reply)
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how can we have check the copper nd


aluminium cable size according to load
Rajendra via formula or trick ?
Singh this is very urgent for me, pls help me
O
OCCTT 0077,, 22001166
sir ASAP.
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Dear Sir,

M Ajay your above mentioned information is


S
SEEP
P 2288,, 22001166 very useful.But please mention the
load capacity of aluminium cables
also..for 30sqmm copper cable we can
put a load of 120A??

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Gd evening sir
Pls told me sir
Hasrat Ali How will be calculate cable size in
A
AUUG
G 2255,, 22001166
mm^2
Pls told me a short trik
For example which size of cable
should be use for 2500amp rating
braker
Pls sir as soon as possible rply me

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Thanks a lot sir


this helping me more……..
Sujith
Thankachan (reply)
(reply)
A
AUUG
G 2233,, 22001166

i just want solution for this. if i want to


pass current of 1600 Ampere so what

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size of cable should i select?? cable


size should in MM^2

Priyanka (reply)
(reply)
Waikar
A
AUUG
G 1155,, 22001166

It should be 400 Sq mm

(reply)
(reply)
Muhammad
Ali Khan
A
AUUG
G 2211,, 22001166

Sir, can you say that how a dc current


of 2.5 amps will flow through a wire of
Shivam resistance 60 ohms? input is 36 volts
JJU
UNN 2277,, 22001166
11 ah battery

(reply)
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Sir please tell me why 1hp single


phase motor is 7ampere in single
Rholand phase motor chart in ampere. But if we
Forescal use the formula in ohms law to get
JJU
UNN 2200,, 22001166
ampere in single phase I = hp /
VxExPF we only get only 4.23 ampere
when voltage is 230v power factor is
0.9 and i used 0.85 efficiency.. Please
teached me how to prove the electrical
thumb rules.

(reply)
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what is the difference between “Cu


Wire Current Capacity” and Cable

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“Cable Current Capacity”?

(reply)
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Isuru
M
MAY
AY 3311,, 22001166

For Cu Wire Current Capacity (Up to


30 Sq.mm) = 6X Size of Wire in
Pawan Sq.mm
Bhardwaj Ex. For 2.5 Sq.mm = 6×2.5 = 15
A
AUUG
G 2299,, 22001166
Amp, For 1 Sq.mm = 6×1 = 6 Amp,
For 1.5 Sq.mm = 6×1.5 = 9 Amp
For Cable Current Capacity = 4X
Size of Cable in Sq.mm, Ex. For 2.5
Sq.mm = 4×2.5 = 9 Amp.

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Plz tell me how to calculate size of


generator set for a specific submersible
Gurpreet pump set i.i for specific hp motor?
M
MAY
AY 2288,, 22001166
Thanks alot

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pls tell me sir what cable needed for


32amp industrial socket and how we
Swapnendu can determine if we need aluminium
Sil cable or cu cable or need 3 phase or
M
MAY
AY 0055,, 22001166
single phase in general?

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Super sir
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Gopi Nath
FFE
EBB 2244,, 22001166

7/16 cable size meanes what is the


sqmm cable size in 3 phase supply
Rudramurth 30kva load
D
DEEC
C 1177,, 22001155

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wonderful informative portal….!!!

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Balu B
Nair
D
DEEC
C 0077,, 22001155

A perfect compilation. Thanks Jignesh.


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Pradeep
Rathi (reply)
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O
OCCTT 1155,, 22001155

how i find cable for a suitable load like


a if load is 23 which cable is-perfect for
Shah this load and how i find by formula ?
Faisal
S
SEEP
P 2299,, 22001155
(reply)
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Plz tell me how to tabulate the


armoured cable size for a particular
MD Kashif load.
N
NOOV
V 1177,, 22001155

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i am living in FLAT WITH 3 BED


ROOMS ONE DRAWING ROOM AND
Gurjit HAVE 5 ACs 2 TR AND WASHING
A
AUUG
G 11
11,, 22001155
MACHINE INDUCTION COOKER AND
MICROWAVE WITH GEYSERS 25
LITERS IN BED ROOMS AND
KITCHEN AND THE LOAD GRANTED
IS 8KW.
THE EARTHING WIRE FROM MCB
BOARD ON FIRST FLOOR TO
METER ON GF IS OF 1 MM SQUARE
.
IS THIS ENOUGH OR SHOULD I
REPLACE WITH HIGHER CAPACITY

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No Its not enough

Rehan If you are having a single phase


O
OCCTT 0088,, 22001155 meter use 1 no of 4 sq mm Cu wire
and if you are having a 3 phase
meter use 2 nos of 4 sq mm wires

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Tell me the short cut for calculating


load for a flat
Ankesh
Mishra (reply)
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A
AUUG
G 0022,, 22001155

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Please tell me how to find current


rating of the conductor
Deepak
Kumar (reply)
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JJU
ULL 0066,, 22001155

Can we use 2 run of 25 mm sq instead


of 50 mm sq cable of Cu. If yes then
Mohan tell me full details and If not then tell
Dass me also full details.
JJU
ULL 0033,, 22001155

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How many distance between


transformer and diesel genrator as per
Manish ie rules
Chovatia
M
MAY
AY 2211,, 22001155
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I have a current transformer with 1


main meter outside the building and a
Sowmya control panel having 5 CT meters with
M
MAY
AY 0011,, 22001155
black round coils inside the building. I
want to know, A) when current pass
through the Transformers, will the
current be reduced or be the same and
after that B) when current pass through
the CT meters with black round coils,
will the current be reduced or be the
same. C) in the above process will the
reading of the main meter be same or
different, from the total reading of all
the 5 CT meters.

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What is the simple formula for


electrical, current , voltage
Swapneswa
Pradhan (reply)
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A
APPR
R 0077,, 22001155

Thanks sir u help for electrical problem


.
Swapneswa
Pradhan (reply)
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A
APPR
R 0077,, 22001155

we known low pf increase line current


so does it increase kwh reading in
Omar metering…but pf varation is related
FFE
EBB 0088,, 22001155
also actually totally in reactive part…so
what is the impact of pf in metering.

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Please .I have a 500KVA what % of


load should I load it considering the
Bassey fact that max load is about 700Amp
Friday
JJA
ANN 3311,, 22001155
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Is your generator sets for


emergency supply or prime supply?
Etop For Prime you can load up to 100%
Inyang and 70% for emergency generator
A
AUUG
G 2222,, 22001155
sets.

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I want to take part in to the technical


debates and weekly technical
Mdmukhter discussion.
JJA
ANN 0033,, 22001155

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How diesel engine frame should be


grounded (I think shall be two earthing
Abdelsalam diagonal points ) according to NFPA 70
Mikky (NEC), could you please provide the
D
DEEC
C 2222,, 22001144
supporting standard cod of this

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Every Genset has predefined points


to ground engine frame. Don’t forget
Edvard to ground gas reservoir if it exist.
JJA
ANN 0033,, 22001155

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How to calculate Cable sizes for the


Below in thumb rule,
Madhu 01.Single core cable above 30Sqmm
N
NOOV
V 1188,, 22001144
02.Three phase cable size.
Pls send it with a clear Example

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what is maximum distance between


VCB panel and transformer at 11 kv
Rahul voltage supply using HT cable of size
O
OCCTT 1155,, 22001144
3cX95sqmm. Is it ok that transformer is
installed at 150 meter away from VCB
panel.

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minimum 6 mtrs

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Ali
N
NOOV
V 0088,, 22001144

SIR I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT IN


3PHASE 4 WIRE ELECTRICAL
JOYDEEP DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WHY THE
KUNDU RADIUS OF NEUTRAL WIRE IS LESS
O
OCCTT 0066,, 22001144
THAN OTHER WIRE?

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Because in 3 phase 4 wire system


only unbalance current pass from
Kalpesh the nutural so current is never
A
AUUG
G 0066,, 22001155
higher then half of the phase
current,so purpose of aluminium
saving its samller size then phase in
power cable of higher size

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Dear sir,
Please send me your mobile number
Balu because I talk personally with you so I
O
OCCTT 0011,, 22001144
request you please give me your
mobile number

Thanks&Regards
Vagh Balu R
7698260140

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Dear Jebalu, are ju crazy. There is


inernet, no personalities!
Huj
O
OCCTT 0033,, 22001144 (reply)
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what is the meaning of 2×6+4 for wire


sizing?
Arnel
S
SEEP
P 2222,, 22001144 (reply)
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What do you reckon on SWA 3 phase


and Neutral Cable size?
R Knight
S
SEEP
P 2211,, 22001144 Circuit 1
primary fuses, 16A and 20A = 36A
However, connected load is 9kVA and
3kVA = 17.3A and average
consumption is 3kVA and 2kVA
respectively, giving ~ 8A

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Circuit 2
Primary fuses, 40A, 16A, 16A and 16A
= 88A
However, nominal current is 33A, 6A,
8A and 11A, giving ~ 58A

Circuit 2
11kw fan with a 32amp supply

on Cable run of 150m

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If the load requirement is 1200 kva ,


what kind of independent feeder should
Kushvendra be considered , 11th or 33 kv
Tyagi
S
SEEP
P 1177,, 22001144
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Hi need clarification to choose between


3 core, 3.5 core and 4 core for cable
Glenn selection application. I know we
S
SEEP
P 0033,, 22001144
choose 3.5 core and above in case of
unbalanced loads any advice on
making selection more clear is greatly
appreciated

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1 Phase Motor draws Current = 7Amp


per HP.
Thuong.Ngu Full Load Current of 1 Phase Motor =
JJU
ULL 1122,, 22001144
HPx6
I think full load current of 1 phase is
too high, for examples, in catalog of
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manufacture, current of 1 phase motor


4HP only about 12A. Moreover, please
clarify why percent of draw current and
full load current is small (7/6), as i
know that factor is 3/1.( In my country,
there used 220V for line voltage and
380V for phase voltage). The same
question for 3 phase motor.

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What is the difference between line


and phase?
Muhammad
Bilal (reply)
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A
APPR
R 1155,, 22001144

line to line voltage means voltage


between 2 line
Ganesh and Phase voltage means voltage
Kaneriya between 1 line and neutral
JJU
ULL 1188,, 22001144

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thanks 4 d info it was really


help full we all must share
Neeraj these things so we could get best of
Kumar knowledge
A
APPR
R 0066,, 22001144

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Please I have some business


proposals for the author.
Please get in touch with me at
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jescil@hotmail.com
Thanks

Joe C. (reply)
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D
DEEC
C 2255,, 22001133

Thanks Dear sharing Such valuable


data
Annu
O
OCCTT 2288,, 22001133 (reply)
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sirs, for aluminium cables and wires


current carrying was not indicated in
Nmr the thumb rules.
O
OCCTT 0033,, 22001133

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Thank You For This and for those u


cant understand this is only a thumb
Aakifnouma rule just to understand and remember
S
SEEP
P 0022,, 22001133

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On the section current capacity of


Equipments, it is written
Sumitfloyd # 1 Phase Motor draws Current =
S
SEEP
P 0022,, 22001133
7Amp per HP.
# 3 Phase Motor draws Current =
1.25Amp per HP.

I am not quite clear on these points.


Please clarify. Does it mean if we have
3HP single phase motor then it will

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draw 21Amp current throughout its


operation or during its starting?

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These rules could be a little bit tricky


unless you don’t know further
Kriloter connections …
A
AUUG
G 2288,, 22001133
Not all of them are aplicable in a
different distribution systems
worldwide, especially constants like
•Current Rating of Transformer = KVA
x 1.4, etc.
I suggest author should notice the
conditions and input values in which
are these rules aplicable and users
should modify them according to a
specific distribution system.

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well said mate.!

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Alam
M
MAAR
R 1144,, 22001144

pls tell me the difference between wire


and cable.You mentioned different
Shaijal100 capacity for cu wire and a cable. You
A
AUUG
G 2244,, 22001133
mean cable with aluminium conductor
or something else..?Pls tell me..

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cable is bunch of wires :-)

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Kriloter
A
AUUG
G 2288,, 22001133

Please give me the solution for below


mentioned problem..
Manjunatha Actually in our plant we having two 500
A
AUUG
G 2244,, 22001133
kva DG set and One dg is new one
and other one is old …efficiency is
different, so when switch on both and
synchronizing.. some problem is
occurring and i am not able to
synchronizing. .. please give any
solution for this problem
my mail id is
manjunathapm8@gmail.com

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Dear friend, just find the settings


configuration in PCC2100 relay for
Srinivas parameter settings:)
Subramani
N
NOOV
V 1199,, 22001133
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kindly inform frm where did u get this


useful information?
ChAliGhafo
A
AUUG
G 2233,, 22001133 (reply)
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