Dismantling Naik

DISMANTLING
ZAKIR NAIK
By: SIRAJ WAHJAN (LW)
JULY 2010
Siraj Wahjan’s Review Of The Dialogue In “ The Concept Of God in

Hinduism and Islam “ between Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Dr. Zakir Naik.
DISMANTLING ZAKIR NAIK
Introduction
Recently there is a new Islamic orator who has risen up to bring a common platform
between religions , to fill the gulf between different religions all together and bring
them to Islam by showing them the true light of the “Deen” of Islam . This new face goes
by the name of “Dr. Zakir Naik” a boisterous and a confident person who believes that
Quran is a miracle of God . The reason this article is named “Dismantling Dr. Zakir Naik”
is because this is what this article does.
Muslim believes that Mr. Naik is an infallible polemicist and believe he can answer any
question posed on the on the topic of Islam and any religion . One should know this
article is not to defend Hinduism or Sri Sri Ravishankar but it’s to enlighten the reader to
the reality of the deceptions put up by Dr. Naik .
One should admit the good side of Mr. Naik he is so dexterous , confident and swift with
his speech that most of his opponents doesn’t have a chance of winning . The
proficiency of Dr. Naik is inspiring to many Muslims . Dr . Naik is so confident in his
speech that his veneers of lies might not appear to many people and since he is
dexterous and swift he also gains an upper hand on his opponents and is able to fool
crowd quite easily . I can verily state one thing that this article demarks the end of the
grandiosity complex of Mr. Naik . The reader who reads this article will see through the
veneers of lies of Dr. Naik and his chicanery, ending the glory of Dr. Dr. Naik once and
for all . The reader will see how he desecrates other religions but how deceptively he
induces veneration for religion of Islam . The reader will know how much sacrosanct is
Islam and how truthful is Dr. Naik . This article is intended to annihilate the deceptive
charade of a false scholar .
[The author of this article doesn’t believe in any religion or an almighty God , he
knows there are some scientific errors in every single religion . He is not an atheist
either , he is an Aquarian who believes in spirituality . ]
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Dr.Naik - Let us start with the meaning of the word Islam . Islam comes from the root
Arabic word “Salam” which means "Peace" . It is also derived from the
Arabic word “silim” which means to submit your will to almighty God , in short Islam
means peace acquired by submitting your will to almighty God and this word
Islam occurs in several places in Quran and Sahih Hadith including in the Quran in Surah
Al Imran chapter number 3 Verse number 19 And Surah Ale - Imran
Chapter number 3 verse number 85 , Any person who acquires peace by submitting his
will to almighty god to Allah he is called as a Muslim . And this word
Muslim also occurs in several places in the Quran and the Sahih Hadith including in the
Quran in Surah Ale Imran Chapter 3 verse number 64 And Surah Fussilat
chapter 41 V.33 many people have misconceptions that Islam is a new religion which
came into existence 1400 years ago and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
was the founder of this religion , in fact islam is there since time immemorial since man
set foot on the earth and prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is not the founder of
this religion but he is the last and final messenger , send by almighty god the last and
final prophet.
LW: Okay , from here we see the claims of Zakir Naik . First of all I would like to inform
Mr. Naik that there are no proof whatsoever which says that Islam has been existing
ever since man set foot on earth if there are any proofs , such as , excavations ,
scriptures etc which some how explains that Islam has been existing from the time
immemorial then we somewhat may consider this but from the very beginning this man
starts to use the logical fallacy of Argumentum Ad Circulus in Demonstrando i.e. an
argument in which a person uses what they are trying to prove as the part of the proof
simply because Islam religious scriptures explains that it is the true religion does not
make it true . As a matter of fact Quran itself has got over 100 of errors if not thousand
to say the least and several contradiction to depend upon the word of such text is
fallacious and ignorance . To prove my point I will show a few contradiction in Quran :
Sura 7:54 , 10:3 , 11:17 and 25:59 clearly implies that god created “the heavens and
earth in six days”
But however in Sura 41: (verse) 9-12 there is a contradiction which states god created
heaven and earth in 8 days . To explain my point here are the Surahs.
Surah 41:9:
Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the
Worlds.
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41:10
He set on earth mountains standing firm high above it and bestowed blessings on the
earth and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion , in
FOUR days , in accordance with (in the needs of) those who seek (sustenance).
41:11
Moreover he comprehended in his design the sky , and it has been (as) smoke . He said
to it and the earth “come ye willingly or unwillingly” . They said together “we do come
(together) in willing obedience “.
41:12
So he completed them as seven firmaments in TWO days and he assigned to each
heaven its duty and command and we adorned the lower heaven with lights , and
provided it with guard . Such is the decree of him the exalted in might , Full of
knowledge.
So what do we get ? 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 Days .

So Quran clearly contradicted itself here if compared to Surah 7:54 , 10:3 , 11:17 and
25:59 which clearly stated that Ar Rahman or Allah created the Heavens and Earth in six
days . This error is enough to prove my point in contradiction but however the purpose
of my article is not to enlighten about the errors in Quran but to put the claims of Zakir
Naik under just scrutiny . To know if the greatest Islamic orator after Ahmad Deedat
holds any weight in his arguments or not .
In the very start Zakir Naik commits a logical fallacy that is the of Circulus in
Demonstrando , he uses what they are trying to prove as the part of the proof . Hence a
logical fallacy and its not to be accepted by a logical person . He has got no prove that
Islam exists from time immemorial but instead he just says because he feels like it and
has been written in Hadith and Quran . Due to paucity of proofs in his arguments, we
can clearly see how Mr. Naik is trying to fool people into believing the Islam is the oldest
religion of the planet earth which Islam clearly isn’t .
Dr.Naik -Let us first understand what are the sacred scriptures in these two great
religions in hinduism the sacred scriptures have been divided into two parts Shrutis and
the Smritis . Shruti in sanskrit means that which is percieved that which is understood
that which is revealed and the shrutis are considered to be the word of god and they
are more sacred than the smritis
the shrutis are further divided into two types the vedas and the upanishads . Vedas is
derived from the sanskrit word Vid which means knowledge par excellence it also
means sacred wisdom basically there are four vedas this is the Rigveda , we have the
yajurveda , we have the samaveda and we have the atharvaveda but there is difference
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of opinion regarding how old are these vedas , according to swami Dayanand saraswati
he says "the vedas are 1310 million
years old but the majority of the hindu scholars they say the vedas are approximately
4000 years old , there is difference of opinion regarding where did these vedas come
into existence the first time , there is also difference of opinion regarding who was the
rishi to whom veda was given the first time , in spite of these differences regarding the
age of the vedas , the part in which it came first , to whome it was given in spite of
these differences yet the vedas are considered the most authentic of all the sacred
scriptures of hinduism , the most sacred amongst all the scriptures of hinduism , if any
other hindu scriptures contradicts the vedas the vedas are supposed to be followed.
LW: Okay now Mr.Naik would not like to mention his authentic sources to prove the
the exact age of Vedas , but I would like to know which hindu scholars said they were
written 4000 years ago , it’s a speculation not an authentic fact , and that too a
speculation of Biblical western scholars who believe in Genesis and believe earth to be
6000 years old. It’s a known opinion between archeologist and scientists that they exact
date of Vedas is unknown whether they be of yesterday or over 10000 years old , the
exact date is still clouded in mystery that is it is still unspecified. The Vedas weren’t
given to any person at one time Maharishi Vyas cannot be called the author of Vedas ,
the Vedas were compiled by Brahmins all together . In the very initial traditions Vedas
were taught orally there wasn’t a compilation it was the age of oral dictations and
teachings . The knowledge of Vedas were provided orally , it was only later when a
group of Brahmans compiled the Vedas . Most of the old teachings of different
civilizations were stated orally for example the “German Runic system” but later was
represented pictographically .
And 1310 million years being age of Vedas isn’t Dayananda’s calculation but it was
mentioned in Suya Siddhanta credited to Brahmarishi Mayan and Manusmriti written by
Manu , Swami Dayanand only stated what he found out in his research , he never gave a
biased opinion as Mr. Naik wants to prove he did as Dayanand during his time was the
arch enemy of Islam in India .
Dr.Naik- The next in authority we have Adi Upanishads these are the upanishads ,
Upanishads is derived from the sanskrit word "Upa" which means near "Ni" means
down "shad" means sit , sitting down near , when the pupil sat down near the guru to
acquire knowledge it was called the upanishads , its also called as knowledges which
removes ignorance , there are more than 200 upanishads but the indian culture puts
the figure of 108 and people have picked up and compiled upanishads known as
"Principal upanishads" . Radha Krishn has picked up 18 upanishads and written a book
"the principal upanishads" . Next type of hindu scriptures we have Adi smritis , the word
smriti means to remember , it means memory . Smritis are less sacred than the shrutis ,
they are not the word of almighty god and they have been written by rishis and by
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human beings , they contain the creation of universe , how a lifestyle should be lead by
an individual on an individual level , on a community level or on the society level , they
are also referred as the Dharamshastras , there are various types of smiritis we have the
puranas , puranas means ancient . Maha Rishi Vyas he has compiled the puranas into 18
voluminous parts , this is one of the puranas known as Bhavishya purana , then we have
the Itihas , the epics there are two epics the Ramayan and the Mahabharat. . The
ramayan deals as the most of indians known with the story of Shri Ram and the
Mahabharat , deals with the story its the fued a fight between the cousins , the
pandavas and the kauravas . It also deals with the story of Shri Krishna these are the two
great epics , then we have the Bhagvat Gita . Bhagvat Gita is part of Mahabharat it is 18
chapters of Mahabharata from the bhishma param chapter number 25 to chapter
number 42 , it is an advice given by Shri Krishna to Arjun in the battlefield , it is the most
popular and most widely read sacred scripture amongst all the hindu scriptures . Then
we have the manusmriti and various others . This was in brief regarding the sacred
scriptures of hinduism but the most sacred , most authentic amongst all the scriptures
is the veda . If anything contradicts the Vedas we have to follow the Vedas.
LW: The introduction of Upanishads have been given on shaky grounds if he must
know that there are 10 main Upanishads , and they are only authentic as long as they
agree with Vedas , any Hindu scripture which contradicts the Vedas is rendered null and
void or unauthentic . (I am beginning to think the thesis of Dr. Naik is based on
Wikipedia rather than any other source)
Dr.Naik- Lets discuss the scared Scriptures of Islam the most sacred amongst all the
Islamic scriptures it is the glorious Quran . The glorious Quran is the last and final
revelation of Allah almighty God which was revealed to the last and final messenger
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) . The Quran says in Surah Al Ra'd chapter number 13 Verse
38 "in every age have we sent a revelation" there are several revelations of almighty
God , sent on the face of the Earth by name the 4 are mentioned in the Quran , the
Torah , the talmud the injeel and the Quran but there are various others like sufe
Ibrahim but all the scriptures that came , all the revelations that were sent by almighty
God before the last and final revelation the glorious Quran , they were only meant for a
particular group of people and the message which they preached was supposed to be
followed until a particular time period but because Quran is the last and the final
revelation of almighty God it was not sent only for the Muslims or only for the Arabs . It
was sent for the whole of humanity . Allah says in the Quran in Surah Ibrahim chapter
number 14 verse number 1 " we have revealed this book to thee that thou may lead the
humankind from darkness to light" not only the muslims or the Arabs but the whole of
humankind. . The same message is repeated that Quran is for the whole of humankind
in several verses including surah ibrahim chapter number 14 verse number 52 , Surah Al
Baqarah chapter 2 verse number 185 and Surah Al Zumar chapter number 39 verse 41
that the Quran was revealed for the whole of humankind.
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LW: Alright according to Quran there were previous revelations such as Torah , Talmud
, Injeel (Gospels) . If the Almighty monotheistic God whom Arabs called “Allah” is perfect
in all ways as they claim then , I am inclined to ask what caused the perfect god to
produce imperfect editions of his revelations ? When something in the first edition has
been omitted or there is an error then only we write a second edition in order to rectify
the mistakes which were in the first edition , if the god if perfect in every ways he
cannot do mistakes but the above explanation of Zakir naik clearly makes us look into
the imperfection of Allah , he learns by trail and err method . He did some mistakes in
1st Edition then he created the 2nd edition and then the 3rd etc . Mr Naik says that they
were meant for a particular group of persons let me ask this man and the women are
the creation of God so how can God the supreme ruler of heavens and earth
discriminate between people of one nation or group with the other? Yes , it also implies
that all previous revelations are also fallacious , full of contradictions and absurdities but
that’s yet again not the purpose of this article the purpose of this article is not to refute
Bible (new and old testament) , Torah or El Talmud , but this article is clearly to refute
claims of the Mr. Naik .
As for the Quran’s statement of Islam for the entire mankind it is fallacious . Quran
clearly implies that it came for the Meccans alone :
Quran 006.092 And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and
confirming (the revelations) which came
before it: that thou mayest warn the mother of cities and all around her.
(The mother of cities, Umul Qura, is Mecca. )
The same thing is confirmed in verse:
042.007 Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur’an: that thou mayest
warn the Mother of Cities and all
around her.
Quran 032.003 “Nay, it is the Truth from thy Lord, that thou mayest admonish a people
to whom no warner has come before
thee: in order that they may receive guidance.”
Quran 036.006 In order that thou mayest admonish a people, whose fathers had
received no admonition, and who therefore
remain heedless (of the Signs of Allah).
It was clear by these that Muhammad had only come for Meccans and for them alone ,
but of course later he grew more powerful and claimed he is now for entire mankind yet
again making a contradiction in Quran . This also proves Quran is a creation of
Muhammad . Umul Qura also known as Mecca is called mother of cities because it was
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the chief city which provided the people with hospitality ,nourished and helped them
and other cities like a mother does to her child and was a rich and powerful city , hence
it was called the mother of all cities .
The people who believe Quran is the word of God then why do they follow what
Muhammad said when he says they should attack other countries and force them to
convert to Islam whose words are more important Muhammad or Allah ?
For Naik’s information the Arabic word “Nas” is used there . Verse 14:52 says English
translation says “Here is a Message for mankind: let them take warning therefrom, and
let them know that He is (no other than) One God: let men of understanding take heed“
Arabic words used are-

“Hatha balaghun lilnnasi waliyuntharoo bihi waliyaAAlamoo annama huwa ilahun
wahidun waliyaththakkara oloo al-albabi ”
Nas is people any number of people , but it cannot mean the entire mankind for
example that word is used in verse 7.116 when talking about the magic performed by
the magicians of the pharaoh who bewitched the eyes of the people “nas” . Are we
supposed to understand that the entire mankind was bewitched ?
The same word Nas is also used in different places indicating people not the entire
mankind . But if in ignorance we assume that nas means mankind then we must admit
that there is a flagrant contradiction in Quran in terms of the verse 6:92 , 42:7 , 32:3 ,
36:6 which state Quran is for people of Mecca and its surrounding cities . Mr. Naik has
made a contradictory claim of Quran , verily stating that Quran is contradictory itself.
Dr.Naik -The next scriptures in Islam are the Sahih Hadith the authentic sayings and
tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) . There are many one of them is Sahih Al
Bukhari we also have Sahih Muslim . The Hadith of the prophet the authentic sayings
and traditions are the commentary of Quran . They are complementary to the Quran .
They will never contradict the Quran . This was in brief regarding the scriptures in these
two great religions .
LW: Zakir Naik agrees that Hadiths are authentic sayings of Prohpet Muhammad in
that context I will like to quote some of his authentic sayings here :
Muslim:C9B1N31 "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the
fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all
that I have brought."
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Muslim:C9B1N29 "Command For Fighting Against People So Long As They Do Not

Profess That There Is No Ilah (God) But Allah And Muhammad Is His Messenger: When
the Messenger breathed his last and Bakr was appointed Caliph, many Arabs chose to
become apostates [rejected Islam]. Abu Bakr said: 'I will definitely fight against anyone
who stops paying the Zakat tax, for it is an obligation. I will fight against them even to
secure the cord used for hobbling the feet of a camel which they used to pay if they
withhold it now.' Allah had justified fighting against those who refused to pay Zakat."
Muslim:C9B1N33 "The Prophet said: 'I have been commanded to fight against people till
they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and
they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property
are protected.'"
Muslim:C10B1N176 "Muhammad (may peace be upon him) sent us in a raiding party.

We raided Huraqat in the morning. I caught hold of a man and he said: 'There is no god
but Allah,' but I attacked him with a spear anyway. It once occurred to me that I should
ask the Apostle about this. The Messenger said: 'Did he profess "There is no god but
Allah," and even then you killed him?' I said: 'He made a profession out of the fear of the
weapon I was threatening him with.' The Prophet said: 'Did you tear out his heart in
order to find out whether it had professed truly or not?'"
Muslim:C20B1N4597 "The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca: 'There is no migration

now, but only Jihad, fighting for the Cause of Islam. When you are asked to set out on a
Jihad expedition, you should readily do so.'"
Muslim:C28B20N4628 "Allah has undertaken to provide for one who leaves his home to
fight for His Cause and to affirm the truth of His word; Allah will either admit him to
Paradise or will bring him back home with his reward and booty."
Muslim:C34B20N4652-3 "The Merit Of Jihad And Of Keeping Vigilance Over The Enemy:
A man came to the Holy Prophet and said: 'Who is the best of men?' He replied: 'A man
who fights staking his life and spending his wealth in Allah's Cause.'"
Muslim:C42B20N4684 "A desert Arab came to the Prophet and said: 'Messenger, one
man fights for the spoils of war; another fights that he may be remembered, and one
fights that he may see his (high) position (achieved as a result of his valor in fighting).
Which of these is fighting in the Cause of Allah?' The Messenger of Allah said: 'Who
fights so that the word of Allah is exalted is fighting in the Way of Allah.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N288 "I witnessed a scene that was dearer to me than anything I had
ever seen. Aswad came to the Prophet while Muhammad was urging the Muslims to
fight the pagans. He said, 'We shall fight on your right and on your left and in front of
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you and behind you.' I saw the face of the Prophet getting bright with happiness, for
that saying delighted him."
Bukhari:V5B59N290 "The believers who did not join the Ghazwa [Islamic raid or
invasion] and those who fought are not equal in reward."
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar
when it was still dark. He said, 'Allahu-Akbar!' [Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed,
for whenever we approach a hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for
those who have been warned.' Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads.
The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives."
Bukhari:V9B84N59 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till
they say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah." Whoever says this will save
his property and his life from me.'"
Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from
where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is
worse than slaughter."
Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great
slaughter in the land."
Qur'an 66:4 "If you (women) turn in repentance to him, it would be better. Your hearts
have been impaired, for you desired (the ban) [on how many girls Muhammad could
play with at a time]. But if you back each other up against (Muhammad), truly Allah is
his protector, and Gabriel, and everyone who believes - and furthermore, the angels will
back (him) up."
Qur'an 18:83 "They ask you about Dhu'l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, 'I will cite
something of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing
his goals. So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw
that it set in black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people."
Bukhari:V4B54N421 "I walked hand in hand with the Prophet when the sun was about
to set. We did not stop looking at it. The Prophet asked, 'Do you know where the sun
goes at sunset?' I replied, 'Allah and His Apostle know better.' He said, 'It travels until it
falls down and prostrates Itself underneath the Throne. The angels who are in charge of
the sun prostrate themselves, also. The sun asks permission to rise again. It is permitted.
Then it will prostrate itself again but this prostration will not be accepted. The sun then
says, "My Lord, where do You command me to rise, from where I set or from where I
rose?" Allah will order the sun to return whence it has come and so the sun will rise in
the west. And that is the interpretation of the statement of Allah in the Qur'an.'"
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These are a handful of a few verses and narrations out of thousands of obscure
,threatening and violent ayats and narration from Quran and Sahih Bukari and Sahih
Muslim .This verily proves Islam is a religion of peace , doesn’t it ? Mr. Naik is making
hypocritical claims about Quran and Hadiths .
Dr.Naik -Now we'll discuss the main talk concept of God in Hinduism and Islam in the
light of sacred scriptures , what Dr.Zakir Naik says or what respected Sri Sri Ravishankar
says or what any other human being says is not important we have to see what the
sacred scriptures says about the concept in these two great religion . If I say something
or Sri Sri Ravishankar says something or anybody else says something if it matches with
the scriptures we have to agree . If we give any examples if it matches with the
scriptures we have to take it , if i say something if it doesn't match with the scriptures , if
i give an example and it doesn't match with the scripture we have to reject it . First ,
we'll discuss the concept of God in Hinduism in the light of the hindu scriptures , if we
ask a common hindu that how many gods does he believe in ? some may say three ,
some may say hundred , some may say thousand while others will say 33 crores 330
million but if you asked a learned hindu who is well versed with the hindu scriptures he
will tell you in hinduism we should believe and worship only one God but the common
Hindu he believes in the philosophy known as pantheism the common hindu believes
that the tree is god , the sun is god , the moon is god , the human being is god , the
snake is god .
LW: There is an identical difference between the Islamic and the Vedic god , the vedic
god Ishwar / Brahman is bound by the rules of the science , he cannot do anything
which breaks or surpass the rules of science while the Islamic god can do anything , he
creates heaven and hell , gets angry , has enemies et cetera . In here Dr. Naik has again
committed a big mistake , he goes to explain Devta as God which is wrong , devata
means entity (living or dead) not God . “God” the omnipotent , all knowing , creator of
everything et cetera is a concept of the Abrahminism not of the older traditions .
As in accordance to the Vedic faith and followers of it , these people do not consider
them GOD as Mr. Naik is stating they consider them as a part of creation of that Ishwar
and they pay their respect to the creation as a means to respect its creator not to
consider them as incarnation of the creator deity . Mr. Naik needs to improve his
academics and thesis . De facto in order to clarify nowhere in the vedas it is stated that
Hindus should worship one almighty god , it is stated that Brahmin or Ishwar is infinite
people perceive him in different forms . Plus , vedic teachings lays more emphasis upon
meditation and advancement rather than mindless worship of Allah 5 times a day
facing Kaba , as meditation will lead to evolution according to vedic teachings , worship
is a form of respect and thanksgiving to the Ishwar the creator of everything and also to
the devtas .
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The vedic teach tells about both form and formless aspects of the supreme deity Ishwar
/ Brahman . . The major thing in here the very Brahman/ Ishwar the cause of everything
the infinite is that this is energy , if we look in detail at the Aryan scriptures we will
conclude that according to the Vedas , matter is formed of Atoms (kad) , Atoms of
energy and energy is Brahman another is soul and consciousness is energy and thus it
is Brahmin / Ishwar . In short everything is the part of Brahman , hence he is
omnipresent , while Allah is not omnipresent he lives above the 7th heaven on his throne
over water .
Dr.Naik -What we Muslims believe is everything is God's , everything belongs to God ,

the tree belongs to god , the sun belongs to god , the moon belongs to god , the human
being belongs to god , the snake belongs to God . So the major difference between the
common hindu and common Muslim is that the common hindu says "everything is God"
and we Muslim says "everything is God's" G O D with an apostrophe "s" so the major
difference is " 's " if we can solve this difference of "'s" the hindus and the muslims will
be united .
LW: Just a difference of “’s” ? De facto , the gap between Islam and Vedic religion is as
much as the gap between Sun and Pluto . Vedic Ishwar power stays in the boundary of
science as opposed to the Islamic god who says “So be it!” and it happens like he did to
Virgin Mary when he wanted Isa to take birth .
Before I begin just to tell you Gospel comes from old English word God speli meaning
good news it’s a writing that describes the life , death , ministry etc of Jeshua bin yusef
or Jesus so to speak it mainly refers to the four gospels , the Gospel of John , Luke ,
Matthew and Mark . But Muslims believe that Gospels are the message and revelation
of Allah not the canonical messages of Luke , John , Matthew and Mark and believe it to
be now corrupted though the Bible tells otherwise anyways lets move on .
The Quran explains the virginal concept of Maryam , according to Quran , Maryam had
withdrawn into a temple where she met an angel named Jibreel to give glad tidings of a
holy son which will take birth through her womb , who will be a great prophet and
whom God will give Injeel or Gospels .
Isa will speak in infancy and will be the companion of the most righteous on this
Maryam asked Jibreel how can she give birth when no man has ever touched her , the
reply of the angel was “Even though when god wants to create a matter he merely will
its and it comes into being “ So according to this , Isa or Jeshua bin yusef Or Jesus of
Nazareth took birth due to “God’s will” not through any scientific or biological
procedure or anything like that . While on the other hand Vedas state that the Vedic
supreme god Ishwar is bound by the rules of science he cannot do anything which
surpass the rules of science , he cannot make a baby come out of a virgin just by willing
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it to happen . This is just a small example , there are huge gaps between Islam and Aryan
faith as Aryan faith is mainly on “Dharama” while Islamic faith is on “Mazhab” in order
to reach Ishwar according to Aryan faith one needs no intermediary like a prophet
messenger etc , he just needs to be righteous and follow his path and “Dharama” is not
for a group of people but for the whole of humankind which lays emphasis over the fact
that people should maintain peace and punish the evil according to their acts not
according to their differences (be it of nation , creed , caste , color etc) but the
“Mazhabic cult “ or “Deen” of Islam is different , their allah will forgive any act of evil
except to leave his prophet or rejection of the Islam , and to reach allah you have to
accept Islam and consider Muhammad as the final prophet and also admit the existence
of heaven and hell , the existence of angels jibreel (Gabriel) and mikail (Micheal) and
there is not god but Allah while to reach Ishwar or Brahman you need not accept Rishi
Vyas or Manu or Dayanand , you just need to follow the path of righteousness ,
evolution , peace and devotion .
This is yet a minute paradigm of a far far great gulf between the two religions . De
facto,calling Aryan faith “religion” is wrong , they never called themselves a religion but
called themselves a way of life , giving freewill (giving choice to people to believe or not
to believe) and spreading knowledge they weren’t subjected to a specific group of
people like Abhraminism so as such there is a major gap between the two .
Dr.Naik -How would you do it ? As the Quran says "come to common terms as in us
and you" which is the first term that you worship none but almighty God . Let us
understand what does sacred scriptures of Hinduism have to speak about almighty God .
It is mentioned in Chandogya Upanishad chapter number 6 section number 2 verse
number verse number 1 "ikkam ividityam" "god is only one without a second" its a
sanskrit quotation , I know that I am speaking in front of a great scholar of vedas shri
shri Ravishankar , I am just a student so if my sanskrit pronunciation is a bit poor I would
like to apologize he is a great scholar of the vedas and i am just a student of Islam and
comparitive religion as well as the student of the hindu scriptures and the vedas . Its
mentioned in Shvestashvatara Upanishada chapter number 6 verse number 9 "of him ,
of almighty god there are no parents , he has got no lord , almighty god has no father ,
he has got no mother , he has got no superior" . Its mentioned in Shvetashvatara
Upanishad chapter number 4 verse number 19 " of that god there is no "pratima (idol)"
there is no likeness , there is no image , there is no picture , there is no photograph ,
there is no sculpture , there is no statue . Its mentioned in Shvetashvatara Upanishada
chapter number 4 verse number 20 "no one can see the almighty God " and it is further
mentioned in Bhagwad Gita chapter number 7 verse number 20 "all those whose
intelligence has been stolen by material desires , they worship demi gods" . Some of the
translation says " all those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires , they
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worship idols. " and this quotation is also mentioned by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in his book
Hinduism and Islam the common thread in the section of not worshipping other Gods
on page number 3 . He gives the quotation but does not give the reference , the
reference is Bhagwad Gita chapter 7 verse number 20 , its further mentioned in
Bhagwad Gita Ch.10 Verse 3 that "they know me as the unborn not begotten the
supreme lord of the worlds"
LW: Now again Dr. Naik is engaging into Red Herring argument that is distracting
audience from truth the fact is that chandyoga Upanishad speaks not of Allah but Ishwar
/ Brahmin who according to the Vedas can be perceived in both form and formless
aspects I have explained this concept earlier . Its pointless of Mr. Naik to stretch this
argument any further the Islamic God and Vedic Ishwar isn’t the same but lets move
further . Zakir Naik states the Chandyoga Upanishad but the very Upanishad also says “
Sarvam Khalu Idam Brahma” (Chandyoga Upanishad 3 .14.1) meaning everything is
Brahman (the supreme lord) . If Naik places infallible trust upon Chandyoga Upanishad
he must also agree to that everything present in this entire universe is Allah and he
doesn’t lives above 7th heaven but no , Mr. Naik cherry picks , moulds the meaning of
the verse in order to suit his agenda to whatever way he likes and frantically searches
for the words and mantras in Upanishads and Vedas whom he can correlate with Quran
, Muhammad and Allah . Its almost humorous to see the non sequitur fallacy of Mr. Naik
who will pervert any mantra or scripture or make a whole new meaning of the verse just
to suit his own agenda and to obfuscate the crowd .
Let me help Zakir Naik in realizing what Bhagvad Gita actually says in Chapter 7 verse
number 20 :
kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah

prapadyante ’nya-devatah
tam tam niyamam asthaya
prakritya niyatah svaya
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods
and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own
natures."
The word ‘nya-devtah’ itself means demi god , there can’t be a translation of this verse
which means “ Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires they
worship idols” there is no word in this verse which says anything even close to idol , this
must Dr. Zakir’s team of translators of sankskrit who frantically searches for anything in
any scripture to support islam who by itself is untenable .
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To be honest none of the translation which I’ve ever heard of says “those whose
intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship idols”
Krishna mentioned this in reference to people surrendering to Demi-Gods out of greed

or a desire to obtain boon from them for selfish purpose and choose the rules and
regulations which suits their own needs and nature .
Aryan scriptures describes that Idol is a symbol , a tool to reach the deity who is beyond
this world , without a place for mind to focus and concentrate a devotee cannot offer
thanksgiving , worship , respect etc . He must have some means or medium for his mind
to concentrate for a devotee who is not advanced enough to work out his cause without
mediums , it is agreed also in the Vedas those who obtain a high level of spirituality
need no idols or any medium to reach out to the deity but that is for the one who
obtains an advance level of spirituality , those who are not in that state need a medium
for the mind to concentrate . By this I can rightly state Zakir Naik , doesn’t know the
concept of idolatry . I agree that , Idolatry is not recommend in Aryan scriptures but its
also not banned in Aryan scriptures in the least . In fact , idolatry is for the people who
are yet unaware of the more advanced spiritual concepts for them a medium or a tool is
needed for them to connect to their desired deity .
Dr.Naik -Amongst all the hindu scriptures the most sacred are the vedas , its
mentioned in Yajurveda chapter number 32 verse number 3 "of that god there is no
"pratima (idol)" pratima as I said means , likeness , image , picture , photo , sculpture ,
statue . Its further mentioned in Yajurveda chapter number 40 verse number 8
"almighty god is imageless and pure" . Its mentioned in Yajurveda chapter number 40
verse number 9 "they are entering darkness those who worship the natural things" like
fire , water , air etc and the verse continues "they are entering more in darkness those
who worship the sambhooti" the sambhooti are the created things like table , chair etc ,
who says that ? yajurveda chapter number 40 verse number 9 . Its further mentioned in
Atharvaveda book number 20 hymn 59 verse 3 "verily great is almighty God (dev maha
asi)" and amongst the vedas the most sacred is Rigveda , its mentioned in the Rigveda
book 1 hymn number 164 mantra (or verse) number 46 "truth is one , God is one , sages
call him by various names" . God is one but saintly people call him by MANY names and
there are no less than 33 names given to almighty god in Rigveda book number 2
hymn number 1 alone , one of them is Brahma , the Brahma is called as the creator . If
you translate creator to arabic it means "Khaliq" we muslims have no object that
almighty god is "Khaliq" or Creator , but if someone says he is almighty god he has four
heads and on each head is a crown , you are giving an image to almighty God we
Muslims take strong exception to it moreover you are going against Shvetashvatara
upanishad chapter number 4 verse number 19 which says "natasya pratima asti" "of
that God there is no image" . The other name given to almighty god in rigveda book
number 2 hymn number 1 verse number 3 is Vishnu , Vishnu is called as the god who is
the sustainer , if you translate sustainer into Arabic it is somewhat similar to Rab .
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LW: Dr. Naik didn’t stated anything which can go contrary to the claims of Islam those
were the verses before and after the verse he specifically mentioned but I will surely
would like to do the honors .
Yajur veda chapter number 32 verse number 1 :
“Agni is that , Aditya is that ,

Vayu is that , Chandra is that ,
The bright one is that , Brahman is that ,
Waters are that , the prajapati is that .”
“He is the deity who pervades in all regions

Born at first , he is also within the womb
Verily , he is born and yet to be born
Meets his offspring facing him on all sides .”
This verse goes against the Islamic God , cause Allah can’t be equated with anything , he
is not omnipresent he lives above the 7th heaven not on earth , according to Islamic
scriptures he is beyond this universe not IN this universe as claimed by Vedas about
“that” which is present everywhere .
The third verse of SYV verily states that -
“natasya pratima asti” meaning of “that” there is no symbol of idol or anything . But
again as I said , the Vedic people are not talking about the Quranic Allah which can be
easily be understood by comparison of the verse before and after verse number 3 of
chapter 32 of Yajurveda . The Islamic Allah according to Islamic scriptures is beyond this
universe , has absolutely no symbol in here the almighty deity is being symbolized with
different things further more the verse after “natasya pratima asti “ makes things even
more clear .
He is the deity who pervades in all regions

Born at first , he is also within the womb
Verily , he is born and yet to be born
Meets his offspring facing him on all sides .
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According to Islamic scriptures Allah is unborn and he exists , but in here we see that
Vedic people are talking about something which is yet to be born and is born at the
same time and something which exists everywhere . This gives an indication of a
“philosophical view” of God rather than a literal or logical view of God .
If Zakir Naik is so interested in comparing the vedic view of the Almighty deity with
Islamic view in practical terms then , let me ask in whose womb is Allah residing in ?
The truth is Islamic Allah and Vedic Brahman or Supreme deity are way different than
each other , they are not the same they can never be the same !
The Islamic God creates heaven and earth the paradise filled with the physical
adornments such as rivers of wine , Houris (Virgins) , food , honey etc while the vedic
view of the state of heaven is to be free from the cycle of life and death to surpass the
barriers of time to achieve evolution , the state of Godhood (which was also taken by
buddism which is an offshoot of vedic culture) , aren’t these views way too different ?
How can the vedic supreme deity and Islamic Allah can be same according to Mr. Naik
when these two are totally different ?
Allah is a being who sits on a throne , creates paradise filled with physical objects and
hell , is the lord of the Judgement day , sends messengers , decides everything before
the child is even born by the concept of destiny , lives on the seventh heaven , has no
symbol etc while vedic supreme God who is compared symbolically to sun , water ,
fire , moons , men etc , is all pervading or omnipresent etc .
Thus , again quoting the yajurveda is of no use Mr. Naik there is a major gap between
the Vedic Dharma and Islamic Deen .
All right it’s a well known fact that Mr. Naik states that Muslim take strong exception to
attributing image to almighty God (with exception follows aggravation as well but that is
besides the point) . the Muslim believe Allah is formless and doesn’t have a form but in
their very own Islamic scriptures form has been attributed to their own Allah the
infallible God , let me show a few of those 33 verse in Quran only which attributes
image to their God :
Quran (57:04) Al Hadid : “ He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days,
and is moreover firmly established on the Throne (of Authority). He knows what enters
within the earth and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven and
what mounts up to it. And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all
that ye do. “
Now the one who creates a throne , will definitely have a throne to sit on it . Isn’t that a
formed aspect to God ? this implies Islamic god has a mass ! A throne is definitely
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created to sit on it , its not created for decoration since according to Islamic scriptures
first Allah created his throne over water and then he made a pen who will write
everything that will happen . Definitely Allah wanted a place to sit on that’s why the
throne was created , now the one who sits on a throne has got a mass or not ? he must
definitely have a mass and thus , he must having a form as well ! What would any sane
and logical person will think of one who sits on a throne ? A man , a being must be
sitting on that throne !
He created that for himself isn’t that true ?
Furthermore I am quite baffled to see that Allah who is beyond humans is making a
human creations. Like Pens and Throne etc even his paradise is filled with physical
objects of wine and honey and what not but my question is Why couldn’t he make
something more spectacular ?
Why did he made only a throne which is something which signifies the power and
authority in human culture ( i.e. Kings) , he uses human representation of power and
authority so how couldn’t he have human thinking and features as well ? He also
claimed that he created Adam in his image, Allah shows human emotions of anger ,
mercy etc . Muslim are proud that they don’t attribute any image to their God and their
god is formless but the truth is that they do and furthermore in Quran they make Allah
look more like a tyrant than a God .
Plus , if he created Adam in his image , then isn’t it true that Adam looked like Allah ?
We the descendants of Adam , aren’t we also supposed to look like him ? after all
according to Quran we are the descendants of Adams are we not ?
Okay lets ignore all that for the sake of argument , lets continue further on the concept
of image according to the Quran (translation by Yusuf Ali) :
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Yusufali: On that Day shall the (Great) Event come to pass.
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Yusufali: And the sky will be rent asunder, for it will that Day be flimsy,
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Yusufali: And the angels will be on its sides, and eight will, that Day, bear the Throne of
thy Lord above them.
Now here when the day of judgment comes , 8 angels will hold Allah’s throne and angels
will be on his side . Okay , now I might not be so scholarly but even I have common
sense enough to make out that throne must be having Allah sitting on it . Now if
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something is sitting on a throne , is he formless or has a form ? I leave it up to the

reader to think but the answer is really simple , he has a form for definite !
how can something formless be sitting on a throne which has a form ? if something is
sitting on a throne he must be having a form . Now doesn’t that attributes form to a
formless God Mr. Naik ? anybody can have his own personal image of Allah if given
knowledge enough and as such before desecrating other religions you must check your
own religion before trying to defend it which by itself is untenable .
Its further mentioned in Rigveda book number 8 hymn number 1 verse number 1
"worship him alone, one god , praise him alone" . Its mentioned in Rigveda Book
number 6 Hymn number 45 Verse 16 "praise him alone , worship that one god" .
What? I think you got quite lucky Mr. Naik that your audience is very gullible but the
thing is the verse goes something like this pardon me if I burst your bubbles about
Islamic prophesies in Vedas :
[08-000] RIG VEDA - BOOK THE EIGHTH
[08-001] HYMN I. Indra.

1. GLORIFY naught besides, O friends; so shall no sorrow trouble you.
Praise only mighty Indra when the juice is shed, and say your lauds repeatedly.
This is the first verse which Mr. Naik mentioned to the crowd that what Vedas are
talking about praise him alone and worship him alone is about Allah and none other
than him .
Before refuting him lets also see the second verse he mentioned :
[06-045] HYMN XLV. Indra.

16 Praise him who, Matchless and Alone, was born the Lord of living men,
Most active, with heroic soul.
Alright , what are you trying say Mr. Naik ? Indra is ALLAH ?!
If that is your discovery well I am quite surprised cause knowing Indra’s nature , likeness
who is fond of womens (has got even cursed by a devas and even humans) , lover of
songs etc .
Glory of Indra is great , I agree the God of weather , thunder and lightening . The King of
Devas , the mighty and the most valiant amongst devas . But as I mentioned before
Devas are entities / beings not God . By your very statement Mr. Naik I have concluded
what any sane man will with enough knowledge will that according to you Indra is Allah .
One must really find out is he defending Islam or just making fun of it ?
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All the hymns Mr. Naik mentioned with due respect belongs to Devraj Indra rather than
Allah . Any average hindu will knows about Indra ..
Equating Indra with Allah is blasphemy if Mr. Naik knows , and according to his very
own Sharia law which he wants the entire world to follow he must beheaded . But then
again Mr.Naik will get out saying that he is using the Islamic “Al taqiyah” to defend islam
that is to lie for the cause and benefit of Islam and in the view of Allah that’s a good lie
and he rewards for it .
The Brahmasutra of Hinduism "there is only one god not the second one not at all , not
at all not in the least bit" . So if you read the hindu scriptures you shall understand the
concept of god in hinduism in the light of the sacred scriptures .
I have already refuted this argument about what Vedas and Vedantic Brahmasutra is
talking about . Brahmasutra is talking about Brahman and Zakir Naik is comparing him
with Allah of islam which is wrong . For more information scroll up to find the how
Brahman has been described by the Vedas and How Islamic God is describe .
Vedic Brahman is different and Islamic allah is different Zakir Naik has committed the
fallacy of
Argumentum ad nauseam (argument to the point of disgust; i.e., by repitition). This is
the fallacy of trying to prove something by saying it again and again . Just saying Allah
and Brahman are one and the same thing again and again doesn’t make it same .
Dr.Naik -Let us try and understand the concept of God in Islam , the best reply anyone
can give you from the scriptures is quote to you Surah Al Ikhlaas chapter 112 verse
number 1-4 "Say he is Allah one and only" , "Allah the absolute and eternal" , "he
begets not nor he is begotten" , "there is nothing like him" . This is the four line
definition of Allah (swt) of all mighty god given in the Quran if any person says so and so
candidate is God , if that candidate fits in this four line definition we Muslims have got
no objection in accepting that candidate as god , the first is "say he is allah one and
only" . "God is only one" Chandogya Upanishad chapter number 6 section number 2
verse number 1 . The second is "Allah the absolute and eternal" same as Bhagwat Gita
chapter 10 verse number 3 "they known me as the unborn not begotten , without
beginning the supreme lord of the worlds" . The third test is "he begets not nor is he
begotten"
LW: Once again a false comparison and Argumentum ad nauseam , by saying or

implying they are the same it doesn’t become true . What Upanishad , Vedas and Geeta
are talking about is Brahman not Islamic Allah . De facto , what was mentioned in Geeta
what was Krishna saying that to Arjuna , now Krishna is referring to himself that he is
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supreme lord of the worlds , unborn not begotten . Now what are we to believe Krishna
is Allah ? let me give the commentary of two renowned scholars of this field but this
argument doesn’t need commentary as anyone can find that out through his own
interpretation and logic but in order to clarify I will also put those commentaries :
Sridhara Swami's Commentary
“Here Lord Krishna is revealing the result of such realization of Him. One who realizes
that the Supreme Lord Krishna is verily the origin of everything and the controller of
everyone having no beginning or cause as He alone is the cause of all; is free from
delusion and illusion and has absolved all reactions from their actions. “
The word anadim meaning without beginning contains two root words within it. Ana
which means that which energises everything and adi which means that which is the
origin of everything. Therefore Lord Krishna is the energising cause of all without
beginning. Thus the word ajam being unborn and anadim have both been established
Now Zakir Naik let me ask if I may , is Krishna Allah ? if he is why did he took a
materialistic form which clearly Islam is against . Islam emphasizes that Allah doesn’t
need to come down in human form to help humans .
Mr . Naik again needs to improve his researches rather than frantic searches to support
the shaky ground of Islam . I have an idea why not use mountains as pegs to support
the ground of Islam ?
Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs?
(Quran, 78:6-7)
Dr.Naik -Same as the Shvetashvatara Upanishad, chapter 6 , verse 9 “Of him there are
no parents. No lords, almighty has got no mother , has got no father , he has got no
superior” and the fourth test is (valamya kulahu kufuan ahad) “ there is nothing like
him”.
Shvetashvatara Upanishad , chapter 4, verse 19 , Yajurveda chapter 32, verse 3 “of that
god, there is no pratima, there is no life base, there is no image, there is no picture ,
there is no statue” If any person says so or so candidate is GOD, if that candidate fits in
these four line definition discussed of the Koran and the Hindu sacred scriptures, I have
no objection in accepting that candidate as god. For example, there are many humans
beings who consider Bhagwan Rajneesh to be God. While doing question answer time
the Hindu brother of ours , who told me “ Brother Zakir, we hindus don’t believe
bhagwan Rajneesh to be GOD” I told him “ I never said the hindus believed bhagwan
Rajneesh to be God, I have read the hindu scriptures. Nowhere in the hindu scriptures
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does it say that Bhagwan Rajneesh is GOD, I said some human beings , some people
believe Bhagwan Rajneesh to be God. Many people believe him to be GOD. Let’s put
this bhagwan Rajneesh to the test of sura Ikhlas and the test of the hindu sacred
scriptures. Number one, (kul huallahu ahad) “see he is Allah one and only “, (ekkam
evedityum) “ god is only one without the second”
Was Rajneesh only one? Was he the only human being, who has claimed to be god?
There are many who have claimed , especially in this country of ours. Thousands of men
have claimed to be god, he is not the only one. Rajneesh Bhakt me say “ no, he is
unique” Let’s go to the second test (allah hus samad) “ Allah , the absolute and eternal
“, when we read the autobiography of Rajneesh , we find mentioned there that
Rajneesh was suffering from Asthma, from chronic back ache, from Diabetic Mellitus.
Imagine Almighty GOD suffering from chronic backache, asthma, diabetic mellitus.
The third test is ( alam yalid valam yu lad) “he begets not nor he is begotten” we know
Bhagwan Rajneesh was born in Madhya Pradesh . he had a mother and a father. He goes
to America , uSA, in 1981 and takes Thousands of Americans for a ride and in a state of
Oregon he starts his new village called as Rajneeshpuram. Later on the American
government, they arrest him and put him behind bars and Rajneesh alleges that
American government gave me slow poisoning , Imagine almighty god being slow
poisoned.
And in the year 1985, the American government removes him from the country , kicks
him out . he comes back to India and goes back to the city of pune, to his centre , which
is today called as OSHO commune, if you go there it is mentioned there on his
tombstone “ Bhagwan Rajneesh, OSHO, never born, never died” but visited the earth
from 11 dec 1931 – 19 jan 1990. They did not mention on his tombstone, that he was
not given visas to 21 different countries of the world. Imagine almighty god, coming on
this earth to visit the world and required visas. And the arch bishop, If you don’t remove
Rajneesh out of this country , we will burn his house and all of his disciple and the last
test (vallamya kullahu kufuan ahad ) is so stringent that no one besides the true god will
pass. The moment you compare the god to anything in this world he is not god.
Vallamyakullahu kufuan ahad, we know that Bhagwan Rajneesh like normal human
beings, had two eyes, two ears, two hands, two legs, white beard . the moment you can
compare god to anything in this world in this universe, he is not god . Suppose someone
says that almighty god is a thousand times stronger than Arnold Schwarzenegger , you
might have heard the name of Ardnold S Schwarzenegger , the person who got the title
of mr. Universe , the strongest man on this universe. The moment you can compare god
to anything in this world, whether it be Arnold or Dara Singh or king kong , be it
thousand times or million times, the moment you compare god to anything in this
world, he is not god. There is nothing like him.
LW: I have explained Upanishads and Vedas speak of a different entity but what Mr .
Naik said here is that there is “nothing like him” is that a fact ?
Lets scrutinize this statement in respect to Quran , Hadiths and Al tabari :
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Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553: Narrated Ibn Umar:
Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He
deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal)
and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned
his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his
nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."
This statement describes that Allah is not one eyed like dajjal signifying Allah has
physical features .
Sahih Muslim Book 035, Number 6528:

Abu Musa reported that he (and his other companions) were climbing upon the
hillock along with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when any
person climbed up, he pronounced (loudly):" There is no god but Allah, Allah is
the Greatest." Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Verily,
you are not supplicating One Who is deaf or absent. He said: Abu Musa or
Abdullah b Qais, should I not direct you to the words (which form) the treasure
of Paradise? I said: Allah's Messenger, what are these? He said:" There is no
might and no power but that of Allah."
This narration describes Allah can hear Abu Musa when he was shouting at the top of
his lungs , at this Allah’s apostle Muhammad bin Abdullah explained to him that Allah
can hear him and he is present , if Allah can hear him it means he has physical parts
(ears) to listen to people , many may say its otherwise but further verses will strengthen
my argument .
Sunaan ibn Majah, Vol. I Hadith Nnumber 104
‘Ubayy b. Ka’b (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him said, “The first person with whom Allah will shake hands
(on the Day of Judgment), will be ‘Umar and he will be the first man to whom Allah will
pay salutation (say: Assalamu ‘alaika) and he will be the first man whom he will hold
with his Hand and make him enter the Paradise.
Needs not much of a description , Allah is shaking hands with Umar and pay salutations .
Shaking of hands and speaking implies Allah has both hands and a mouth .
Quran Yusuf Ali’s translation:
Quran 007.194
Yusufali: Verily those whom ye call upon besides Allah are servants like unto you: Call
upon them, and let them listen to your prayer, if ye are (indeed) truthful!
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Quran 007.195
Yusufali: Have they feet to walk with? Or hands to lay hold with? Or eyes to see with?
Or ears to hear with? Say: "Call your 'god-partners', scheme (your worst) against me,
and give me no respite!
Quran 007.196
Yusufali: "For my Protector is Allah, Who revealed the Book (from time to time), and He
will choose and befriend the righteous.
Quran 007.197
Yusufali: "But those ye call upon besides Him, are unable to help you, and indeed to
help themselves."
Quran007.198
Yusufali: If thou callest them to guidance, they hear not. Thou wilt see them looking at
thee, but they see not.
In these verse Allah describes that idols have no feet to walk , no eyes to see , no ears to
hear etc . Allah is comparing his vast powers with false Idol Gods in here , what does this
mean ? It means he has what Idols lack! that is , he has ears to hear , he has feet to walk
and eyes to see otherwise it makes no sense that Allah lacks what idols lack and still
nitpicking Idols , the only reason Allah would have said that is because he has what Idols
lack .
So why Zakir Naik is saying there is nothing like him ? when here it has been implied
has hands , eyes , ears and physical limbs means there are things like him . We humans
are like him according to terms of physical features not character .
005.064 Quran
Yusufali: The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they
accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched:
He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh
to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy.
Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time
they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief
on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief.
Both his hands are not tied up but are widely outstretched means he has two hands and
this comes from none other than the most authentic source of Islamic scripture Al
Quran .
Furthermore Allah gives another evidence that he looks like human beings and that can
be seen from the narration from Sahih Bukhari
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Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 74, Number 246: Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam in his complete shape and form (directly), sixty
cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), "Go and
greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for
that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-
Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah
(Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you). So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah' The Prophet
added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and form of Adam. Since
then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished
continuously) to the present time."
So Allah agrees he has a physical form , it has been confirmed from this Hadith that
Allah looked like Adam since he created Adam the first human being in his complete
shape and form directly , then why Muslims and Dr. Zakir Naik go on claiming that there
is nothing like him ? Its almost humorous to see Mr. Naik’s claims are contradictory to
the very scriptures he is trying to prove as truth .
Dr.Naik- This was in short the 4 line definition of almighty god , I call it the legitimate
test for theology for the study of god, otherwise the Koran say in Surah Al Israa, chapter
17, verse 110 “ seek Allah , call upon him by Allah or Rehman , by whichever name you
call upon him , to him belongs the most beautiful names, you can call allah by any name,
but it should be beautiful name and the name which he has called himself and this is
mentioned in no less than 4 different places in the Koran besides surah al israh chapter
17 verse 110 its also mentioned in surah taa haa chapter 20 verse number 8 and surah
al hashr chapter 59 verse 24 that to Allah belong the most beautiful names and there
are no less than 99 different attributes ,names given to Allah in the Koran and the
hadith . for example, Al Rahman, Al Rahim , Al Karim, most gracious, most merciful ,
most wise and the crowning one is ALLAH .Why do we Muslims prefer calling Allah by
the Arabic word “Allah “ instead of English word GOD , because a person can play
mischief with English word god , which you cannot do with the Arabic word. If you add S
to god it becomes GODS the plural of GOD .. there is nothing like plural Allah. “say is
Allah one and only “ if you add DESS to god it becomes goddess, meaning a female god,
there is nothing like male Allah or female Allah in ISLAM , Allah has put no gender, if you
add a father to god , it becomes a godfather , he is my god father , he is my guardian .
there is nothing like Allah father or Allah abba in Islam . If you add mother to god it
becomes god mother, there is nothing like Allah mother or Allah ammi in Islam. Allah is
unique world, thats the reason we Muslims , we prefer calling Allah with the Arabic
word Allah instead of the English word god , because the person can play mischief with
the English word god but when any Muslim is speaking to the non Muslim, may not
understand the meaning of Allah and uses the English word god like what i am doing
today .
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LW: First of all I somehow couldn’t believe how this person graduated as a Doctor
furthermore he is a doctor who says “I don’t believe in Darwins theory of evolution , I
havn’t came across a simple book which says facts of evolution all say theory of
evolution”, its hard to believe because he lacks the simplest knowledge of
understanding that “prefix” can be added before any word , be it English or any other
language .
He says with English word God you can play mischief by putting prefixes before the stem
word to be honest any person with decent knowledge of Arabic can add prefixes to the
word Allah for a paradigm these few will give Dr. Zakir Naik an idea that mischief with
the word Allah is possible :
1 . Hizballah / Hizbollah which literally means “Party of God” or “Party Of allah” in

Arabic now Dr. Zakir Naik , does Allah have a political party too ? Are people allowed to
vote for this party or they just have to submit by force ?
(Hizballah (also transliterated from the Arabic as Hizbullah and Hezbollah) was
founded and is managed by Shiite Islamic clerics in Iran—the same folks who now
control Iraq. Millions of militants strong, Allah's Party is financed by OPEC. It is a
religious organization whose sole purpose is to terrorize and kill non-Muslims, and
most especially, Americans and Jews.)
2. Walidullah derived from words “Walid” which means “father” and “Allah” means
“God” the entire word would be translated as “Father of Allah” .
Same like the word “Abdullah” which means the “slave of God / Allah” . It can be that
these words aren’t used in Muslim words but it certainly doesn’t mean it can’t be
formed in Arabic . Dr . Zakir Naik holds a view just like any typical Muslim that Arabic is
came from heaven and it’s the language of Allah and Angels .
Dr.Naik -I have got no objection but I would like to mention that god is not the proper
translation of the Arabic word Allah , and this word Allah is mentioned in the scriptures
of all the major world religions including Hinduism .
LW: I do agree that word “ God “ is not a proper translation of the word “ Allah “ the
word “ Allah” is the name of the God of Muhammad , but the root of this word follows
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to pagan arab’s chief moon deity who was also referred to as Hubal and was given the
title “Al-ilah” meaning “the God” .
Allah was the chief moon deity of pagan Arabs for the reason the Bedouin pagan Arabs
lived a nomadic life and Bedouins during those days were tribes suffering lot of troubles
due to harsh environment of the desert and travel during the day was very hard due to
harsh heat from sun so most of the journeys were undertaken at night in moonlight and
sky filled with glittering stars . They were marveled by the unsurpassable beauty of the
night and moon and for them appearance of the moon was appearance of “Lord of the
night” as such the nomadic Bedouin Arabs were connected with moon and its phases .
To them moon was giver of life and they also based their calendar on phases and cycles
of the moon and celebrated festivals et cetera during those special phases of the moon .
Dr.Naik -Its mentioned in Rig-Veda book number 2 hymn no.1 verse no.11 “ one of the
names of god is given as Allah “ Allah is also mentioned in Rig-Veda book number 3,
hymn number 30, mantra number 10 and also in Rig-Veda book number 9 , hymn
number 67 , mantra number 30. There is a separate Upanishad by the name of
Allopanishad which is also mentioned in one of the book of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar , a
separate Upanishad by the name allopanishad , this was in brief regarding the concept
of god in Islam according to the sacred scriptures of Islam. This was in brief regarding
the synopsis of the concept of god in Hinduism and Islam in the light of sacred
scriptures.
LW: Allah is mentioned in these Aryan scriptures ? well if he is then that will be a
miracle !
Lets see :
Rigveda book number 2 hymn number 1. verse number 11:

Hymns to Agni
“Thou, God, art Aditi to him who offers gifts: thou, Hotri, Bharati, art strengthened by
the song.
Thou art the hundred-wintered ILA to give strength, Lord of Wealth! Vrtra-slayer and
Sarasvati.”
The entire hymn is dedicated to Agni and the only word mentioned in here which is
close to Allah is “ILA” . Is Dr. Zakir Naik thinking Ila is Allah ? which he says if properly
pronounced is Allah , I beg to differ but the truth is , that Ila is the goddess of speech
and also as the chief progenitor of the lunar dynasty or Somavansha . Now if one wants
to assume Allah is a goddess of speech its upto his discretion .
Rigveda book number 3 hymn number 30 mantra number 10:

Hymns to Indra :
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10 . He who withheld the kine, in silence I yielded in fear before thy blow, O Indra.
He made paths easy to drive forth the cattle. Loud-breathing praises helped the Much-
invoked One.
Where is the word Allah ? the entire hymn belongs to Indra . Where exactly is “Allah” in
this verse ? Hymn belongs to Indra and him alone , Mr. Naik isn’t trying to say that Indra
is Allah , right?
Now that will be a blasphemy because Indra has been given images , different
functions and duties et cetera and there are forces even higher than Indra as well . One
needs to know that Dr. Zakir Naik is really defending or defaming Islam ?
Next is ,
Rigveda Book number 9 hymn number 67 mantra number 30 :
“Lost is Alayya's axe. O Soma, God do thou send it back hither in thy flow
Even, Soma, God, if 'twere a mole.”
I can’t find the word Allah in here as well . Zakir Naik is again wrong in saying it has been
mentioned in Rigveda Book number 9 hymn number 76 mantra number 30 . He using
the Islamic “Al taqiyah” that is to lie in order to defend and propagate Islamic interests .
Allo Upanishad ? Is Mr. Naik really serious ? Allo Upanishad was forged during the times
of Muslim rule in India , this text has got no origin in original Upanishads its got mix of
Arabic and Sanskrit . Muslims also used to call it as a part of Vedas but when Vedas
became easily available they now say it’s a “Separate Upanishad” , this Allo Upanishad
has no trance in Vedas or any of the other branches of Vedic literature .
A Upanishad having mix of Arabic and sanksrit should be easily recognizable to any
person who has logic decent enough to know that it was forged by Muslims and also
during Muslim invasion lots of universities , texts etc were destroyed , the destruction
of Nalanda university is a paradigm of such . Claims of Mr. Naik are quite abstruse
because neither they carry any base neither they have any logic , but one thing it has is
logical fallacies .
Dr.Naik -Since , to understand and let the followers of these two great religions come
together like what we have done today. Imagine this historic event, Tens of thousands
of people here. The first time I heard Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was one week ago. When I saw
his VCD on the topic of conversation with the spiritual master. He gave a talk on 7 may
2002 in Santa Monica in California and the first sentence I heard from Sri Sri Ravi
Shankar was “spirituality demands two things, first , authenticity . how authentic are
you?. Second, intensity . and believe me when I heard this statement spiritual part, first
thing demands authenticity, I was impressed. I totally agree that spirituality demands
authenticity. Whether first second or third , it does demands authenticity., it demands
truthfulness. Without authenticity how can a person be spiritual. I totally agree with
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respected Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Later I was given few of his books by the organizers and
read one of the books.
LW: Hmm , Lets see what Mr. Naik has to say further . I can foresee a logical fallacy
coming up in his statements further .
Dr.Naik -Hinduism and Islam , the common thread and when I read the book , I am
sure the intention of respected Sri Sri Ravi shaker was mainly to get the Muslims and
Hindus together and even I have written a book “ similarities between Hinduism and
Islam” so as far as that topic is concerned we share a common platform but there were
some thing or rather many things which i found in the book which were not authentic
mainly especially concerning ISLAM and its method to present the views, its just for us
to understand and come closer. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar writes in the first section, “faith in
one god” on page number 2 “ Hinduism is perceived to be a religion of many gods but
contrary to this perception , it believes in one god” I agree with him 100% .thats what i
present in my talk. he further continues and says . it believes in advitya, non dual
monotheism. Though seven colors make up a rainbow, it comes from one ray of white
light, similarly 30 crores of gds and goddesses are raised of one parmatama, super
human being , intelligent. To compare seven color make up rainbow of one light with 33
crores of devi devtas comes from rays of one parmatama, i find it a little bit illogical to
because I being a medical doctor , student of science also. We know that science says
that light is made up of 7 colors VIBGYOR, violent, indigo, blue , green , yellow, orange ,
red. But each color by itself is not white light. All the seven colors in the right proportion
make up one white light. Each individual color is not white light and if any one of the
colors missing it will not constitute pure white light. To say this and give the example to
33 crore of devi devtas rays of one parmatama is like saying that one almighty god has
got 33 crores components. like how a human body has got appox 11 parts, two legs,
two hands, one head, one neck , two shoulders, one chest , one abdomen, one pelvis,
but each part does not make up the complete human body , all the parts put together in
the right position make up the complete human body , if anything is missing its not a
complete human body . to give this example to 33 crores equivalent to one god is saying
that god has got 33 crores part which i disagree and if any one part is missing then that
will not be complete one god.
LW: The Book Mr. Naik has written is not to be trusted as I refuted most of his claims
in that book right here in this article , he has stated nothing even close to truth in his
works .
Now Dr. Naik engages in Argumentum ad hominem it is an error of attacking the

character or motives of the person who has started an idea . Since its natural to Mr.
Naik because he holds no logical base himself so he resorts to Argumentum Ad
Hominem and Strawman that is the fallacy of refuting a caricatured or extreme version
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of somebody's argument, rather than the actual argument they've made , He makes Shri
Shri Ravishankar give explanation regarding the book rather than the actual topic of
concept of God in Hinduism . As we can see Mr. Naik commits one logical fallacy after
another .
To inform Mr. Zakir Naik the 33 Kotis (types) of Gods and Goddesses are mentioned in
Vedic Literature rather than 33 crore and Mr. Ravi Shankar used it as a metaphor not as
an actual practical statement but instead of knowing the difference between
metaphorical and real statement he goes on to engage in Strawman and Ad Hominem
logical fallacy .
Dr.Naik -But he further goes and says that god has got hundred and eight names, one
god has got 108 names or 1008 names which I agree with him, this is what the Vedas
says. As I mentioned in my talk in Rig-Veda, book number one, hymn no.164, mantra
number 46 “ god is one truth is one, saints call him by variety of names .
and then he goes on to say this is similar in Islam, that in Islam god has got 99 names,
which I agree with him. As far as names are concerned, like in Hinduism, in Islam also
you can give any name which almighty god has called himself with . and there are no
less than 99 names given to almighty god in the KORAN and the HADITH . giving a name
, i totally agree, Islam as well as Hinduism for example, my name is Zakir Abdul Karim
Naik. You can even call be Abu Farik Zakir Naik. The father of Farik Zakir Naik. You can
even call me Abu Zikra Zakir Naik, father of zikra zakir naik , or father Of Rushda Zakir
Naik. Four names, four different name sbut all pointed to the same person , all are
unique, only pointing to me , no one else. So giving names totally correct, as the Vedas
says , as the Koran says , as long as the name is beautiful name and is a name which the
almighty god prefers to call himself with.
LW: Which God is the Rigveda talking about ? Its not Allah , its their perception of
Brahman the cause of all causes. I have explained the difference between the two in this
article above .
Dr.Naik- Further in the section number 3 of modes of worship on page number 3, Sri
Sri Ravi Shankar gives an example in his book “ a picture of a person is not the person ,
a visiting card of a person is not the person, similarly, the idol is the symbol of chaitanya
, consciousness and divinity.” I totally agree with the first part that the picture of the
person is not the person , the visiting of the person is not the person , but further saying
that the idol is the symbol of divinity, I think with my limited knowledge its against the
Vedas, yajurved ch 32, verse 3, “ of that god, there is no pratima, no likeness, no image,
no picture, no photo, no statue, no sculpture.
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LW: Dr. Zakir Naik lacks the simplest understanding of concept of spirituality because
in his cult spirituality is banned .
Which “GOD” is Yajurveda speaking of ? I told this above and will repeat it again its
Brahman . And to be honest with Dr. Zakir Naik who claims to be the student of
comparative religions , of Brahman there is really no idol . Of “that” there is no statue
one cannot find an idol who people worship as Brahman , the idol worship is of Devatas
not of Brahman . One can find several idols of many Gods and Goddesses in Aryanism
but one cannot find the idol or picture of “Brahman” .
The idol worship happens of Devas (Entity , higher beings) not of Brahman . Zakir Naik
has made a false accusation here against both Hinduism and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar .
To make it even more clear that in very Bhagwad Gita he quotes time and again to prove
the existence of Allah , I will quote to explain the existence of idols :
Bhagwad Gita chapter number 7 verse 21

“yo yo yam yam tanum bhakatah shraddhayarcitum icchati
tasya tasyacalam sraddham tam eva vidadmay aham “
Meaning :
“Whichever demigod a particular devotee desires with faith to worship , I surely sustain
firmly that faith in him”
Sridhara Swami's Commentary (for the clarification of the verse above)
“Amongst those who worship a particular demigod which represents a potency of Lord
Krishna then He as paramatma the Supreme Soul within all sentient beings monitoring
every thought and action, makes such devotees faith steady and stable. Of others who
worship illusory gods, His external potency known as Maya the deluding illusory energy
keeps them steadily following the illusion of their erroneous philosophies and
speculative theosophies that have no validity not being verified as bonafide in the Vedic
scriptures. “
The verse in here justifies the idol practices prevalent in India which is contrary to the
claims of Zakir Naik yet again .
Idol is a form of focus for the mind of the people without a place for mind to focus upon
(at initial levels of students of spirituality) their mind wanders and is unable to
accomplish the desire or task to connecting to desired deity.
Vedas lay more emphasis on meditation and evolution while Idols of the Devas also
serve as a form of thanksgiving to those “Devas” . Worship is secondary , evolution and
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attainment of Moksha is of most importance in Vedic scriptures . Worship is upto

discretion of the devotee its not a forceful practice which they must follow .
Dr.Naik -Neither is idol the visiting card of god because visiting card gives the address
of the person , his place of work or his place of residence. To say this is a visiting card is
limiting the place or the work of almighty god to the idol even if I agree for the sake of
argument , that the idol is the symbol is a picture of god or the visiting card for sake of
argument , suppose a person promises me some financial assistance and after a few
days his secretary gives me the money he had promised along with the visiting card . it
will be illogical for me to thank the visiting card of the person or to thank its photograph
if I see it somewhere else, the least i can do is, at least i can call him up personally and
thank him on the telephone, so even if I agree for sake or argument that idol is the
photo of almighty god or visiting card which I don’t agree for sake of argument, yet it is
illogical the photo or visiting card directly.
LW: All right , Mr. Naik’s is still engrossed into committing logical fallacies which he
likes more than his very own religion I suppose , of course my opinion is based on the
amount of times he is using a fallacy rather than anything else .
He takes the metaphor of Ravi Shankar as literal , and goes on using Ad Hominem fallacy
to intimidate Ravi shankar and lift the crowd’s trust from Ravi Shankar so even if he says
something in defense of his , the audience won’t believe in him .
Limiting the place of Almighty God ? Don’t Islamic scripture describe that Allah sits on a
throne above 7th heaven ? isn’t that limiting that place of God ?
Its like the pot calling the kettle black , its way to humorous to see his arguments as they
are such non – sense it goes to the point of them being humorous .
Dr. Naik isn’t able to grab simple concept of spirituality that people who pay their
respect to idols are not worshipping the consciousness “in” the idol but the
consciousness which is “represented” by the idol . The idol by itself is a piece of
materials by which it has been formed but when used in form of representative of a
higher consciousness which is needed for people who are not used to higher concept of
spirituality , for them it serves as a tool to connect to the consciousness which they
cannot do it by themselves . But an Idol just by itself is just a formation of materials by
which it came into shape be it clay , wood or stone .
Dr.Naik -And this is agreed upon by majority of the hindu scholars that idol worship is
wrong in Hinduism.
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LW: Wrong! Any learned scholar wouldn’t want to risk his reputation on such baseless
statement . Those Hindu scholars can be Naik’s team of pseudo-scholars because Gita
refutes that statement by the following verse from chapter 7
Bhagwad Gita chapter number 7 verse 21

“yo yo yam yam tanum bhakatah shraddhayarcitum icchati
tasya tasyacalam sraddham tam eva vidadmay aham “
Meaning :
“Whichever demigod a particular devotee desires with faith to worship , I surely sustain
firmly that faith in him”
Once again I will inform Zakir Naik that it’s in Hinduism there is not “Idol worship” but
“Worship through idols” there is a big difference between the two .
Dr.Naik -What they say that at a lower level at a lower consciousness person at a
lower level , who does not know may require an idol to worship god, but when you
reach a higher conscious, idol is not required and this is what Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has
mentioned in some of his VCDs which I saw, at a higher level of consciousness you
don’t require an idol , at a lower level you don’t require . if this is the understand, then i
would say we Muslims have already reached a higher level of consciousness , we don’t
require an image to worship almighty god.
LW: Wrong yet again ! As the reader will know in his entire speech he had no
statements which lacked logical fallacy and furthermore neither of his statements were
scholarly . People who can’t even understand the simplest concept of spirituality and
are adamant on holding the view “my religion is better than yours and you better
submit to it!” have consciousness level below 0 ! Muslims or Mr. Naik havn’t achieved a
higher level of consciousness if they lack the understanding of the simplest of concepts
which even after explanations they are unable to understand just because they are
brainwashed by a monotheistic cult which goes by the name of “Islam” .
Dr.Naik -Furthermore, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar writes in his book on pg 4 that Islam strictly
believes in the formless god but yet it acknowledges the symbol of this god in Mecca
and kaba though they believe that almighty god is all pervading but they worship in the
direction of kaba and it goes on to say that means they are worshipping the formless
through the form. To say that the Muslims worship Allah through the form of kaba is
totally wrong its not mentioned in any of the scriptures of Islam but the Quran does
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say in hadith no Muslim ever worships the kabah neither do they worship the almighty
god through the kabah, it is prohibited. Allah says it in Quran in surah bakra ch 2 verse
144 that wherever you are you face in the direction of the sacred mosque. Direction of
kabah. Kabah is our kibla. It is our direction and we believe in unity. If we want to offer
salah, which direction do we pray?
LW: Kaba is Kibla of Muslims I agree , but so was the grand mosque in Medina during
the times of Muhammad for which when Kibla changed to Mecca’s Kaba the Jews
taunted Muhammad as to “what made Muhammad change his kibla ?” Muhammad
claims his actions were driven by will of Allah but for some reasons either he or Allah
couldn’t keep his will or decision straight , the kibla changed and many a times
whenever the prophet needed something extra more than his normal followers Allah
allowed him , for example the right to keep over 9 wives but for all the other Muslims
the number was limited to 4 .
Furthe more , Kaba was the place for pagan arabs who were engaged in idolatry . They
worshiped their God Hubal the chief moon deity and other gods and goddesses there
were a total of 360 gods and goddesses in kaba , until Muhammad came and broke the
rest and kept the largest statue of Hubal the moon deity intact who was given the title
“Al-ilah” meaning “the god” it is also from where Muhammad derived the word Allah as
well .
Dr.Naik -In the north, south, west or east , so in unity we pray in one direction that is
direction of the kabah, its our kiblah and when Muslims drew the world map the first
person was Alid Rusi in 1154, he drew with the south pole on the top and north pole
down and kabah was in the centre. Later on the western cartographers came and they
turn the map upside down. North pole top, south pole down, yet the kabah in the
centre, so if you are in the north, you face the south, you are in the south you face the
north, if you are in the east , fact west and if you are in the west face towards the East.
When we go to Mecca and circumnutated around the kabah in Umrah and hajj, it is
because the commandment of almighty God but logically I can think we circumambulate
because every circle got one center , indicating , god in only one. So to say that we
worship the formless through the form, is a great error as far as Islam is concerned.
LW: As per modern science, in spherical world contrary to Islamic world which believes
earth is flat , Mecca lies at 21-29 N. It is not even on Tropic of Cancer!
Sura An-Naba (78:6)
Have We not made the earth as a bed,
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Sura 79:30 reads
Wal'arda ba'da dhalika dahaha
Translated as :
Sura An-Naziat (79:30)
And after that He spread the earth;
A new dawah was also given that regarding the translation of 79:30 that earth is egg
shaped but regardless be it flat or egg shaped both of them are totally wrong .
Mecca and Kaba inside it was never the centre of the earth , had it been even near the
equator maybe we could have re considered their “belief” but as per modern science its
impossible . Kaba can never be in the middle , it is though a fact that Muslim
cartographers were faith driven rather than anything else so they committed a heinous
error in the field of cartography which was rectified by the western cartographers and
even then Mecca and Kaba wasn’t in the middle .
If Mr. Naik doesn’t know kaba is called “house of Allah” and Al hajar Al aswad the black
stone in kaba is called “ Hand of Allah” . Mr Naik is willing to take metaphors of other
religions as literal but when it comes to his religion he is ready to believe in metaphors
even to make literal things mentioned as metaphors in order to support Islam .
He can see that when Muslims circumambulate near Kaba it’s an indicator of oneness of
God , but he had trouble understanding the Visiting card metaphorical explanation of
Idols by Ravi Shankar . Though the fact is Zakir Naik is quite asinine to understand the
concepts of other religion .
Dr.Naik -Further Sri Sri Ravi Shankar writes on page 26 that prophet Mohammad when
he came back to Mecca he destroyed all the idols in the Kabah except the central object
of worship , the black stone. To say that black stone was the central object of worship is
totally an error, its unauthentic. You will not find any authentic record not only Islamic
scriptures, any historical , authentic record that black stone , Al Hajar Al Aswad, was
ever worshipped by any of the idolaters in any age of Arabia.
LW: Al Hajar Al Aswad was the black stone found by the pagan Arabs in the sands of
Arabia , contrary to Muslim claim which goes to describe that stone was found by
Abraham and his son Ishmael when they were trying to find the stones to build kaba is
wrong the stone was found by the Pagan Arabs lying in the sands of Arabia
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According to Edward Rice “Al'Uzza was especially worshipped at the Kaaba where she
was served by seven priestesses. Her worshippers circled the holy stone seven times -
once for each of the ancient seven planets, and did so in total nudity. “
Near the Kaaba is the ever-flowing well, Zamzam, which cools the throats of the
countless millions of pilgrims. In an oasis of always-flowing water, the Black Stone in its
mount became an unmatched image of the goddess as giver of life.
As such was the importance of the Black Stone to pagan Arabs . Again Mr. Naik claims
are dubious .
Dr.Naik -The Islam greeting is peace. Islam comes from the root word Salam which
means peace. It’s the duty of every Muslim and every human being that it should spread
peace. If he does not spread peace he is not a Muslim.
LW: Yes peace , few paradigms of Islamic peace :
Bukhari:V9B84N59 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till
they say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah." Whoever says this will save
his property and his life from me.'"
Qur'an 8:58 "If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with
whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels
should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they
cannot escape."
Qur'an 47:20 "Those who believe say, 'How is it that no surah was sent down (for us)?'
But when a categorical [decisive or uncompromising] surah is revealed, and fighting and
war (Jihad, holy fighting in Allah's Cause) are ordained, you will see those with diseased
hearts looking at you (Muhammad) fainting unto death. Therefore woe unto them!"
Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
Tabari VIII:141 "The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night
was: 'Kill! Kill! Kill!'"
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken
captive."
Ishaq:489 "Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men
who think that there is no shame in killing."
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Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from
where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is
worse than slaughter."
Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not
desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not
be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on
them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce
slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering."
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would
terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great
slaughter in the land."
Yes, so according to this logics peace should be among Muslims and war, murder ,
slaughter to infidels .
So according to this logic :
War = Slaughter = Death = Peace = Islam

So we get
War = Islam .
Dr.Naik -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar rightly said that “ love everyone” I also love Sri Sri Ravi
Shankar. I love him. For the things which he has said which I agree. As you rightly said
in a talk “ let us come on a commonality or on a common platform” as I start my talk “
come to common terms as been us and you” so what we have come here is
commonalties but today we are discussing one major commonality that we worship
one almighty god. So first let us agree on these commonalities based on the light of the
sacred scriptures and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar rightly said that even if he differ he shake
hands, even though I differed with some of the points of sri sri ravi Shankar ,yet i came
here because I love him and because we have to agree on at least what is common but
when we love someone there is a saying that father is cruel to be kind. Sometime we
have to correct the person because we love him. Imagine if a child says something which
is wrong , he wants to jump from a building from 9th floor, i can’t say i love him go
ahead because I love him because I love him I will stop him
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LW: There is a difference between child jumping from a rooftop and in matters of
religion . This analogy is quite ridiculous so to speak . Its an authentic fact that if a child
jumps from a rooftop he will get himself killed if and definitely injured .
But in terms of religion its different the proof of authentication has not been provided
so , how are we to trust that Islam is the right religion that Mr. Zakir Naik wants to
imply?
The fact is Quran was written 20-30 years after Muhammad’s death and Caliph Uthman
ibn Affan’s version of Quran is now days available to every Muslim the compilation was
finished, sometime between 650 and 656, Uthman sent copies of it to the different
centers of the expanding Islamic empire. From then on, thousands of Muslim scribes
began copying the Qur'an This is a traditional view of the Islamic Scholars however ,
some secular scholars differ in this regard
Other secular scholars, such as John Wansbrough , Micheal Crook and Particia Crone,
were less willing to believe that Qur'an to be solely attributed to Muhammad (or
Uthman), they argued that there "is no hard evidence for the existence of the Quran in
any form before the last decade of the seventh century the tradition which places this
rather opaque revelation in its historical context is not attested before the middle of the
eighth." "There is no proof that the text of the Qur'an was collected under Uthman,
since the earliest surviving copies of the complete Qur'an are centuries later than
Uthman. The oldest existing copy of the full text is from the ninth century .
Regardless of historical facts Quran is filled of Scientific absurdities and contradictions :
Few of contradictions and scientific absurdities are :

A day of Allah equals to how much according to the Quran ?
Quran 22:47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.
Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of

your rekoning.
In here it says its a thousand years old
Quran 70:4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure
where of is Fifty thousands years.
In here it holds a view that it a day of Allah is of fifty thousand years .
Sun sets in a muddy spring of water
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Quran 18:86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of
the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…
Allah thought Sun sets on earth in a murky spring of water . It doesn’t take whole
lot of rocket science for Allah to figure that out .
Resting place of the Sun:
Quran 36:38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the
measuring of the Mighty, the Wise
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad
(pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?” I
replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA)
replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits
for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not
get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth”.
The great Allah who was standing in a wide desert saw bare eyed the course of
the Sun from east to west everyday . Allah couldn’t even begin to imagine that
this happened because of earth rotation not because Sun rotates round the
earth .
Further Allah thought that Sun prostrates itself beneath his throne . Wow what a
great scientific statement !
The reason sky is filled of Stars:
Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with
lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…
Stars are to drive away Satans and evil spirits once again we see the science of
Allah who is all knowing , and even then knows nothing !
Now how are we to trust this false scripture which contradicts itself time and again , is
boring to read , incites hate among people and its against the concepts of modern
science ?
It simply implies that this is not a scripture of God , its asinine to use such analogy which
clearly has no relation with that topic present at hand . When a child jumps from a
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rooftop his father will stop him but in case of religions you can’t be sure if its true of or
not ! Islam for one isn’t the true religions its one thing which can be said without
ambiguity .
Dr.Naik -so because I love Sri Sri Ravi Shankar so much , it becomes my desire that i
don’t doubt his intention. His intention was to get the Hindu and Muslim together but
someone who is not like me broad minded may take offence with guruji so because I
love guruji, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, that’s the reason i mentioned all these points which I
know he has taken in the right sense , he will not get angry because he is the person
who loves. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar said “who says god cant been seen? Ask the mad , to him
god is everywhere” (kaun kehta hai khuda nahi nazar aata hai, deewane se pooch
khuda hi sab jagah nazar aata hai”)
LW: Broadminded ? Yes Mr. Naik is broadminded . He is so broad minded that he uses
loves to make fun of other religions and cannot tolerate criticism of Islam , it was seen in
the debate of William Campbell and Dr. Naik that how broadminded he was , when it
went to a point the criticism of Quran hurt he resorted to his most lovable logical fallacy
of Argumentum ad hominem .
Dr.Naik -Allah says in the Koran, in Surah Fusilat ch 41 verse 53 “soon we shall show
them our signs in the further reaches of the horizons until it is clear to them that this is
the truth. Allah says he will show his signs when we see the star, we are reminded of the
creator. He is the creator. When we see the sun we are reminded of him. When we see
the moon we are reminded of him.” Sirf deewane ko nahi allah says in the Koran, every
individual human being he will see to it that he will show them signs , not only
deewana, every human beings Allah takes up promise that he will show them the signs
in the furthest horizons until it is clear to them that this is the truth. So these are signs
of all mighty god. They are not god themselves. The deewana person who sees god that
means he sees his signs, he cannot call star or the moon as symbol of god
LW: He just said he was broadminded but he started mocking Ravi Shankar and his
statements ..
Yeah Allah surely said one thing right in Surah Fusilat chapter number 41 verse 53 “
soon we shall show them out signs in the further reaches of the horizons until it is clear
to them this is the truth”
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Yes , Allah has surely showed his signs to the humanity . He showed all of the truth of
Islam , that Islam is the religion of violence , absurdities , war , terrorism , against human
rights and totally destructive and dark .
Allah , his prophet and his followers really showed his signs in the farthest reaches of
the horizon the REAL truth of Islam .
Dr.Naik -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has said that in Islam, the sun which was of scorching heat
it was hostile , he writes in his book , the moon and the star it reminds the person of
serenity of calmness therefore its a symbol in Islam , a symbol of god . the moon and
the star is never a symbol of god , it is symbol of Pakistan. This flag that is there is not a
flag of Islam. Its a flag of Pakistan. And just so because I love guruji so much, Allah says
in the Koran in Surah Fusilat ch 41 verse 37 “amongst these signs are the night and the
day. The sun and the moon , but do not adore the sun and the moon , adore the creator
who has created the sun and the moon .” as far as science of Allah is concerned. Even a
sun is a sign of Allah and the Koran , even the moon .
LW: I agree that the crescent moon and star wasn’t associated with Islam until
ottoman empire who was doing an excellent job in spreading Islam used those symbol
because of a dream its founder had about crescent moon , but Allah was a moon god
Hubal and it’s a fact . The reason why Muhammad didn’t need to explain much about
Allah was because the Pagans knew their moon god “Allah” long before Muhammad
was born . Infact , Muhammad mixed up Judaism , Christianity , culture of Pagan Arab
and few of his own views when spreading and propagating Islam .
“Al-ilah” was the moon God Hubal , it was title given to the moon god Hubal because in
actual Sun gave tremendous amount of heat to the desert that it deprived pagan arabs
of many resources and used to halt their journey . But when the moon used to come up
the Pagan nomadic Arabs used to undertake their journey , the moon provided with
coolness and a beautiful view of the night sky that was moon was of such importance to
the pagan arabs ,
As for Surah Fusilat chapter 41 verse 37 , it just goes to show how desperate is Allah for
getting fame and love . This sort of a demanding God cannot be a god at all .
Dr.Naik -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar rightly said, “we should not criticize the idol worshippers”
I agree with him unless he comes for knowledge. The Koran says in Surah Anam, ch 6
verse 108 “revile not , abuse not, those god who they worship besides allah ,lest in their
ignorance they will revile and abuse allah” I agree with that. But Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
also said “ but when they come for knowledge , give them knowledge” for example if
someone says 2+2=3, 2+2= 4, 2+2=5 I may not say all are correct because I love you, I
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have to say I love you that’s the reason only 2+2=4 is correct the other is wrong. Unless i
want to make a fool of him and tell him take 2 rupees and take 1 rupee and give me 4
rupees., take Rs 200,000 Rs.100,000 and give me Rs.400,000 . I have to correct him
because I love him. I appreciate him.
LW: This article initiated an effort to show how much Zakir Naik needs to correct
himself , rather than him correcting others . One should see his own follies before
naming the faults of others .
Dr.Naik- So this is where i start my talk with a verse from Koran from Surah Israh ch 17
verse 81 which says “ when truth is hurled against the falsehood, falsehood perishes ,
for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish. “ Sri Sri Ravi Shankar said that makes
smile cheap make anger expensive i say make smile free , make it absolutely free. We
have to love all the human beings we have to smile with them .
LW: History is full of examples when are Muslim happy ! Muslims are only happy
around Muslims as their Quran tells them to be :
Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then
surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Quran (5:80)- "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil
is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with
them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers
will abide in hell.
Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than
believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of
precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the
Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir
states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly."
Believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly as we can see by the Quranic
teachings itself . That’s what Quran tells Muslim to do , not to befriend unbelievers
rather kill them and enslave them and those who befriend non-believers from inside
and outside their abode will be hell! The Quranic Allah isn’t even giving his own
followers a choice , he is just stating what they have to do . They have to remove the
non-believers , as Wafa Sultan rightly said in one of her speech against Islam “ This is a
clash between the mentality of 7th century and mentality of 21st century , a clash
between dictatorship and human rights …”
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When truth is hurled against the falsehood falsehood perishes that’s true but its
anachronistic at the same time because this verse was revealed to Muhammad when
he conquered Mecca at that time it was falsehood which has taken over the truth
through lies , reason and war but now truth is again taking over , like in the past critics
of Islam were made silent by murder or torture but now people are waking up , realizing
the truth and are looking straight into the real face of Islam . Soon a time will come
when people all around the world will wake up and rise up to overthrow this wicked cult
of horror.
Dr.Naik -But at the same time because we love them because they are close to us
because they are brother of one humanity of the same creator almighty god, that’s the
reason if someone makes a mistake do no rebuke him do not make fun of him but
correct him. If my son does something wrong ., not that I will say because I love you i
will let you continue doing wrong, because I love him I will correct him so that he gains
what is right and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar said that don’t depend on logic but I find him to be
a very logical person, giving examples of the driver and various examples in the talk this
is logic therefore Koran says this is a book for those who understand , spirituality it
demands authenticity , even demands logic according to me, this differentiates between
what is right and what is wrong. This book the glorious Koran because it is by our
creator and the topic is concept of god in the light of the scriptures therefore I am
restricting as much as possible to the topic and talking of the scriptures because what i
say is not what you have come here to hear what Sri Sri Ravi Shankar says or somebody
else says is not what you have come here to hear you have come here to hear what is
the concept of god in the sacred scriptures if I say something which matches the sacred
scriptures that’s what i believe have come here for and this book the glorious Koran
which is the last and final revelation , I call it the best book on the art of living and its
mentioned in the scripture and I invite Sri Sri Ravi Shankar because I love him , to this
CLUB , to this organization of art of living we are 1.3 billion followers , I invite you
because I love you to this organization of the art of living . allah says in the Koran from
Surah Al Imran ch3 verse 19 “ the only Deen , the only religion , the only way of life, the
only art of living, acceptable in the sight of almighty god is acquiring peace by
submitting your will to GOD”
LW: Alright , we see Mr. Naik was just here to convert people so that he can secretly
reserve his abode in paradise with his virgins .
He wasn’t here to talk about God , he was here to convert just convert . And say “ my
religion is better than yours “ Anyways regardless of anything I have pointed out
numerous errors in his speech so Mr Naik needs to correct his claims . He may fool the
gullible audience and Muslim audience but he can’t fool people of intellectual , logical
and critical approach who can see the fabrication and veneer of lies and chicanery
crumbling his empire of lies with a single truth .
Its true when truth is hurled against the falsehood , falsehood perishes.
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CONCLUSION
Zakir Naik has shown himself to be a deceptive , lair and has been shown to twist the
meaning of everything in order to suit his agenda. His dexterity is what fails his
opponent to catch what he is actually saying but who puts his statement in scrutiny will
realize the truth that he is lying all along .
Zakir Naik is not to be trusted , he is not a scholar as he claims to be . He is just another
Islamic lair like Ahmad Deedat .
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REFERENCES
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim
Al Tabari
Sunan Ibn Majah
Sunan Abu Dawad
Al Quran
Rigveda By Griffith
Yajurveda
Brahmasutra
Chandoyga Upanishad
Shvetashvetara Upanishad
Shri Bhwad Gita
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Siraj Wahjan’s Review Of The Dialogue In “ The Concept Of God in

So what do we get ? 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 Days .

The same thing is confirmed in verse:

Arabic words used are-

Muslim:C9B1N29 "Command For Fighting Against People So Long As They Do Not

Muslim:C10B1N176 "Muhammad (may peace be upon him) sent us in a raiding party.

Muslim:C20B1N4597 "The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca: 'There is no migration

Dr.Naik -What we Muslims believe is everything is God's , everything belongs to God ,

kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah

Krishna mentioned this in reference to people surrendering to Demi-Gods out of greed

Yajur veda chapter number 32 verse number 1 :

“Agni is that , Aditya is that ,

Yajur veda chapter number 32 verse number 04 :

“He is the deity who pervades in all regions

The third verse of SYV verily states that -

Yajur veda chapter number 32 verse number 04 :

He is the deity who pervades in all regions

something is sitting on a throne , is he formless or has a form ? I leave it up to the

[08-000] RIG VEDA - BOOK THE EIGHTH

[08-001] HYMN I. Indra.

[06-045] HYMN XLV. Indra.

LW: Once again a false comparison and Argumentum ad nauseam , by saying or

Sridhara Swami's Commentary

Sahih Muslim Book 035, Number 6528:

Sunaan ibn Majah, Vol. I Hadith Nnumber 104

1 . Hizballah / Hizbollah which literally means “Party of God” or “Party Of allah” in

Rigveda book number 2 hymn number 1. verse number 11:

Rigveda book number 3 hymn number 30 mantra number 10:

Now Dr. Naik engages in Argumentum ad hominem it is an error of attacking the

Bhagwad Gita chapter number 7 verse 21

Sridhara Swami's Commentary (for the clarification of the verse above)

attainment of Moksha is of most importance in Vedic scriptures . Worship is upto

Bhagwad Gita chapter number 7 verse 21

Sura An-Naba (78:6)

Have We not made the earth as a bed,

Sura 79:30 reads

Wal'arda ba'da dhalika dahaha

Sura An-Naziat (79:30)

And after that He spread the earth;

LW: Yes peace , few paradigms of Islamic peace :

Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

War = Slaughter = Death = Peace = Islam

Regardless of historical facts Quran is filled of Scientific absurdities and contradictions :

Few of contradictions and scientific absurdities are :

Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of

In here it says its a thousand years old

In here it holds a view that it a day of Allah is of fifty thousand years .

Sun sets in a muddy spring of water

Resting place of the Sun:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421

The reason sky is filled of Stars:

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