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If you have good automatic frequency optimization tool, which is based on mobile measurements
reports data, then optimize your frequency allocation and go for baseband hopping.
Do not forget, that 22 ARFCNs is a pretty small amount, hope your Cell Plan (Antenna pattern, Tilt)
adjusted with respect to the frequency band available.
Thanks dankid, just other question: if I have network with most of cells with configuration 2trx by cell
and intersite distance is 500m and total frequencies is 22 frequencies..is better to use SFH or BBH?
Thanks
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It is pretty easy:
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SY Hopping
Each connection (speech for example) assigned to specific TRX on specific timeslots (just for
clarification TS on TRX called also Physical channel). Now the Frequency hopping performed by RF
Synthesized in TRX by changing transmit/receive frequency every TDMA frame. In other words
Physical channel always the same during the conversation. As result from MS point of view - every
frame reception/transmission performed on different frequency.
BB Hopping:
TRX always transmitting the same frequency (it is a stable part), while every TDMA frame BTS
processor switching connection from one TRX to another...in cyclic order (typically) i.e. Frame1 - TS2
on TRX1, Frame2 - TS2 on TRX2, Frame3 - TS2 on TRX3.....FrameX - TS2 on TRX1.....and etc.
In other words, TRX frequency always the same, but no permanent allocation of Physical channel per
conversation.
As result from MS point of view - every frame reception/transmission performed on different
frequency.
thanks danikd for the explanation... but I didn't understand the RF and BB hopping part. I got lost
especially in this part "... while all connections (SDCCH/TCH/PDCH) are remaining on their TRXs and
timeslots within the TRXs." Could you please explain it in more detail?
Thanks:) Kindly can you explain in which cases I have to use SFH or BBH?
In my knowledge we use BBH when we have less frequencies and less traffic! because in case of high
cell configuration there is no enough of frequencies so we prefer to use SFH...plz correct me if I'm
wrong:)
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Yes, you are right. Use Baseband hopping for such implementation.
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There are few things that you should pay attention while dealing with GSM hopping:
The hopping gain has its maximum at 8 frequencies (so - hopping list (MAL) longer than 8 frequencies
is useless) this due to GSM interleaver which works over 8 frames.
The typical value for hopping with best possible reuse when you'll use 3-5 frequencies in the MAL.
Once you have more than 3 TRXs per sector, then Baseband hopping become preferable over SY
hopping.
For 2 TRXs sector BB is also preferable over SY due to possibility to put almost all voice traffic in
hopping even over 2 frequencies (it is still better than no hopping on BCCH TRX).
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You should be pretty clear with you question. Many terms that you are using misleading.
Just to clarify:
1. BCCH - is a common name for timeslot 0 on the first frequency carrier in GSM cell. BCCH timeslot
contains multiplex of few different logical channels for DL (FCH, SCH, BCH, PCH, AGCH, sometimes
SDCCH/4 or SDCCH/3+CBCH) and RACH on UL.
2. BCCH - is a common name for frequency carrier on which BCCH timeslot is transmitted.
3. BCCH TRX is TRX, which transmits BCCH timeslot
4. TCH - is a timeslot for handling TCH (traffic channel)
5. TCH - a common name for frequency carrier which does not contain BCCH timeslot.
6. TCH TRX is a TRX which does not contain BCCH timeslot
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traffic to serve.
3. Based on 1. and 2. from above BCCH TRX/Frequency/Timeslot can not hopp i.e. change
frequency!!!
There are two major hopping schemes for hopping implementation in GSM base station:
Synthesizer (RF) and BaseBand.
Just to remind you - the mobile station has no idea what hopping type is used at base station since,
hopping is a change of TX/RX frequency according to predefined sequence every frame.
Synthesizer hopping implemented in the TRX part by changing TX/RX frequency every frame, while
all connections (SDCCH/TCH/PDCH) are remaining on their TRXs and timeslots within the TRXs.
As you may see from SY hopping definition, the frequency change affecting all timeslots on specific
TRX. This fact restricts utilization of SY hopping to TCH TRXs only.
Baseband hopping (BB) implemented on baseband processor level before RF part of the base station.
The baseband processor implements switching every frame between specific connection (SDCCH/TCH
/PDCH) and specific TRX, while each TRX frequency remains the same all the time.
BB hopping allows to involve into the hopping timeslots from 1 to 7 on BCCH TRX.
Hope this helps....if you need more, just ask more specific questions.
Enjoy
Is it possible to have freq. hopping BCCH ? In most cases i've seen is that hopping is only deployed in
TCH ? what are the complications associated with a hopping BCCH ?
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