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ATAVACHRON

Enigma Records ST-73203


Personne/: Allan Holdsworth-guitar, SynthAxe;
Jimmy Johnson-bass guitar; Gary
"...Where No Guitarist Has Gone Before..." Husband-drums
Guest Artists: Alan Pasqua-keys; Billy Childs-
keys; Rowanne Mark-vocals; Chad Wbckerman-

Allan Holdsworth
drums, percussion; Tony Williams- drums
On 'Looking Glass': Holdsworth, Childs,
Johnson, Williams
Side 1: Non-Brewed Condiment; Funnels; The
Dominant Plague; Side 2: Atavachron; Looking
by Ric Levine . Glass; Mr. Berwell; All Our Yesterdays. All titles
composed by Allan Holdsworth.

O riginality is a term used to describe many


artists, even when it doesn't necessarily apply.
Thankfully, the word still has meaning when names
Producer: Allan Holdsworth

like Coltrane, Reinhardt, Miles, McLaughlin,


deliberate, really. M y parents bought me a guitar; Holdsworth: When I first heard Eric Clapton
Hendrix, Metheny, and Fripp (and the scores of
it was real cheap. I think they paid 10 shillings for it was great. It was the first time I'd heard that kind
other musicians that fill your respective lists) are
it, about a dollar at the time, I guess. I just left it of sound and the first time I'd heard the amplifier
mentioned. Without doubt, Allan Holdsworth
lying around and had no interest in it. being used in that manner. Guys had done it before
belongs on any list of "originals".
Cymbiosis: Why did you finally pick it up? by accident, but this kind of thing was more
Holdsworth's reputation as an innovative and
Holdsworth: Curiosity, really. I gradually got deliberate. That sparked me off because it was kind
influential guitarist is well-known in discerning
interested in it, decided to play it, and once I got of a horn, violin sound...just off in the right
circles. His uncommon chordal shadings and com-
to a certain point, it was like a light switch went direction.
plex, linear solos have an enveloping quality. Those
on, and I started to learn how to play the guitar. Cymbiosis: You apparently had a fascination
who own any of the albums on which he has con-
I think it's only after I'd been playing a few years with your parents' record player when you were
tributed (see the Selected Discography at the end
that the kind of things I listened to a lot when I was very young and you've certainly carried on in your
of this article) know what I'm saying: it is a very
younger started unconsciously coming out in my father's tradition about wanting to surround yourself
impressive body of work. His new album,
playing. I was trying to get more of a sound out of with equipment. [That's about all that could be seen
Atavachron, admirably adds to his achievements,
the guitar than it wanted to make at that time. in the living room].
and reveals Holdsworth's continuing quest for his
Cymbiosis: And that's what moved you into Holdsworth: \Afell, it's a curiosity. I'm curious
own unique sound.
electric guitar? about it all. I've always been interested in elec-
Like any true pioneer, Holdsworth is never
Holdsworth: When I got my first electric tronics, and I wanted to know why the guitar
content with the typical tools of his trade. Indeed,
(which was just an acoustic fitted with a pickup), sounded like it did when using a certain amplifier.
synthesizers and more recently, the MIDI (Musical
I didn't start out trying to make the guitar sound I had to analyze and find out why each amp
Instrument Digital Interface), have opened up new Cymbiosis: / understand if your family could
like a saxophone, or anything like that. It just sounded different, so I spent a lot of years modify-
avenues of musical exploration for him. You'd think have afforded it you would have had a saxophone
evolved over a number of years. It's only now that ing and messing with tube amplifiers.
with the myriad possibilities available through these instead of a guitar when you were younger?
I realize that's what was happening subconsciously. Cymbiosis: That was when you had gotten
technological little wonders, there'd be enough to Holdsworth: Yeah, that's what I really
All these years I've really wanted to make a different your first guitar, when you were about 17 or 18?
keep anyone busy. wanted—to play saxophone.
sound than I was making. Holdsworth: No, it was before that when I
This Englishman, as you already know (or Cymbiosis: Why was that?
Cymbiosis: And then you started listening got it.
will understand after reading the following inter- Holdsworth: \Afell, I just loved the sax-
to people like Charlie Christian. Cymbiosis: So you didn't start playing it un-
view), is not /ust anyone. Nor is his new instrument, ophone. It was the sound. I think people are first
Holdsworth: He was on the records that my til you were in your early 20s.
the SynthAxe, just any musical instrument: there attracted to music and then to specific sounds
father had, so I went back and listened to those with Holdsworth: Yeah. I think I would have
is the familiar fretboard that can be played by a within it. I also liked violin later. But at the time
new ears because I realized that this guy was play- gotten into it sooner, if I'd had the right instrument.
guitarist, but it is a synthesizer controller, not a I liked saxophone more, because it was on most
ing guitar. Charlie Christian was the first real big I wish now somebody had given me a violin when
guitar. Though uncomfortable and unusual to some, of the records that my dad had. He was a jazz player
major guitar influence. . . and Django [Reinhardt]. I was little; I really think I would have taken to it.
the SynthAxe has found a master worthy of its and had a lot of jazz records.
But mostly Charlie Christian, because I just love the I still have an affinity with it, but I can't play it,
creative capabilities. [For more on the SynthAxe, Cymbiosis: So you had things like John Col-
sound that he got, and I still love it today. There's because it's a ridiculously difficult instrument to
pick up the June issue of Guitar Player]. trane, Charlie Parker, Cannonball Adderly, Benny
a lot of jazz guitar sounds. Guys like Jimmy Ramey, play. But there was something about it that was more
I caught up with Allan at his home in Orange Goodman and Artie Shaw?
Joe Pass, Tal Farlow, Jim Hall...I love the way they comfortable and easier than the guitar. It was just
County, C A . , where he lives with his wife, Claire, Holdsworth: Yeah, Dad played in the Air
play. But there's something about the sound that at that point in time it was too late, because I would
and their three children, Louise, Sam and Emily. Force band during the war, and they played a lot
I really don't like. It's kind of like a rubber bandy have had to neglect the guitar in order to make any
O n e of the most striking characteristics about of swing.
sound, a dead, short kind of guitar sound, [laughsj progress on the violin. I just didn't think I could
Holdsworth is that his honesty is only exceeded by Cymbiosis: So that might account for why
It's just not for me. do it, so I left it out.
his profound modesty, much like his fellow coun- a lot of your riffs almost sound hornlike as opposed
Cymbiosis: So Clapton's was more of a Cymbiosis: Instead, you took up an instru-
tryman, Peter Gabriel. I hope you find it as to how a "regular" guitarist might sound?
sound that you wanted? ment that you didn't really fancy and fashioned a ^
refreshing and enlightening as I did. Holdsworth: I don't think any of that was

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much as anything else I've ever done.
Cymbiosis: That's good to hear, because
^ALLAN HOLDSWORTH when we'd talked before, you gave the impression
that you didn't like anything you'd ever done before.
whole new style of playing that Guitar Player has Holdsworth: I didn't say I liked it! I just said
called "the Allan ffoldsworth school of guitar play- I enjoyed it at the time. There's a difference. You
ing." have to hope that you still try to do your best at
Holdsworth: Yeah, it's weird. I don't unders- any point in history. It just sounds so old or so bad
tand that anyway. I'd like to think that an individual to me now. Not the rest of the guys, what I'm play-
is an individual, so that he can be whatever he ing. It's just when I listen to those old things, it's
wants to be. That's one of the things that I like to like seeing yourself running around in diapers. I
stress to people. can't listen to it, it sounds so...unknowledgeable.
I have a stubbornness not to want to do But, I enjoyed it at the time. It was a good
anything the same as somebody else. If I see and experience.
hear something and I'm moved by it, I want to do Cymbiosis: So when you conceive songs in
something with that quality. It's only the quality that different signatures, you're not necessarily transfixed
concerns me, not what it was. When Jaco [Pastorius] on a specific time signature.
was doing all that stuff with the bass, people were Holdsworth: O h , I never write specifically
so preoccupied with the sound he was making they in anything. I think I write in 1. [Laughs) No, it's
totally ignored what he was actually doing. The just the way the music comes out. If the music is
most important part about Jaco was what he was written in such a way and the structure warrants
playing on the bass. That was the thing! If I'd have an odd bar or two, then that's what happens. Like
been a bass player, I'd have been looking for that, "Water on the Brain," on the Road Games
and I'd have forgotten about the sound. The sound album, apart from the first bar, it's all in 4. It sounds
was just the sound that he made—it was his. Instead, like it's odd, but it isn't. It's just accents.
what happened was you got a whole bunch of guys Cymbiosis: Now you've got a new toy for
going around sounding like Jaco. In the end, it your composition—the SynthAxe. Can you tell us
almost ruined a perfectly good sound because it a little bit about it and how you became involved
became so common. in it?
Cymbiosis: / understand that when you were Holdsworth: Basically, I tried it through
auditioning bass players for one of your bands in natural curiosity. I had tried using some of the other
England, if you saw a fretless bass being opened available guitar controllers and guitar synthesizers,
up, you said, "Fine, next." or whatever they were called. It was totally hilarious;
Holdsworth: Yeah, we did. I know that it was like a revelation and a frustration at the same
sounds unfair; it was just that we'd been through time, because when you plugged a Roland guitar
so many guys trying to find a bass player, and it was into a DX7, you'd be able to make some of the same
pretty difficult. We found out that most of the guys sounds as a keyboard player or synthesists make.
who had fretless basses were just trying to play like It was interesting for a guitar player, but I knew that
Allan at h o m e demonstrating the unique qualities of SynthAxe.
Jaco. They made that tuba-like sound, but they the system didn't work because of the way that they
couldn't play in tune. All we wanted was a guy with have to track the pitch and then convert that to
character; some personality of his own. The first voltage. I think pitch to anything is like pitch to editor] at Guitar Player and asked him if they had principle to this. I personally believe that's the right
bass player, Henry Thomas, was great. We had some glitch, as I call it. It just has an inherent flaw in it heard anything about it. I eventually tracked down way to go.
personality problems, and it didn't work out for one somehow. So I don't think there would be a syn- Bill Aitken, the inventor; I saw him over at the Cymbiosis: And in addition to the trigger
reason or another, but he was great. thesizer player in the world if the keyboard was N A M M Show a couple of years ago. He let me play strings, you have a keyboard on the SynthAxe.
Cymbiosis: Now this was after your Soft pitch to voltage. this thing, and I was absolutely blown away with Holdsworth: Each key corresponds to a
Machine and Tony Williams days? When I saw the first brochure on the Syn- it. They've made a lot of improvements since then string, so if you play this [first] key, you have to be
Holdsworth: O h , yeah. This was way after thAxe, I read the way they were doing it and I knew and that's one of the other incredible things about playing on this [first] string, and so on.
that-and after Bruford and U.K. This was the begin- that I had to see it. So I phoned anybody I knew it. They just keep coming up with ways to make Cymbiosis: H o w r's the SynthAxe going to
ning of this band now, the I.O.U. band. Then we at guitar magazines, like Tom Mulhern [associate this thing better without changing its shape or the change your approach to composition?
found Paul Carmichael and we liked him because way it plays or feels. For example, the trigger strings Holdsworth: I've now got more sonic
he didn't sound like he was trying to do anybody on the first one I played were really insensitive com- capability than I had before with the guitar, in-
else. He was going for his own thing, and that, to pared to the way they are now. Now they've got asmuch as I can use synthesis and, in effect, that
me, counts ten times over.
Cymbiosis: Is that desire to go beyond the
have a stubbornness a new set of trigger strings where the sensing can
be adjusted from the console, so you can have them
has sparked a whole other thing off in me. I was,
in some ways, getting fed up, not with the guitar
levels of prior musicianship what led you to the
exploration of odd time signatures, like you did with
not to want to do set up any way you want. If you make mistakes on
it, it's your own fault. The machine doesn't make
itself, but with the way that the guitar was soun-
ding in some respects. It was reaching a point
any. And that's what I was looking for. I wanted an where, more or less, everybody started to sound
the Soft Machine?
Holdsworth: WeW, most of my music has odd
anything the same as instrument that was going to allow me to control a little like everybody. There's obviously some really
the synthesizer the way a keyboard player would, great exceptions like Scott Henderson or Eric
bars here and there. The Soft Machine was my first
example of playing constantly in one fixed odd
somebody else." and it seemed to me that this was the closest, or Johnson-all these guys who are doing their own
time; it altered my thinking and phrasing. It was this was..."it". I think there is going to be a whole thing.
good for me. I enjoyed that band at the time as other generation of controllers that will use a similar Cymbiosis: Stanley Jordan. ^

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[Bruford], he'd always use the synthesizer above the
he, as a drummer, influence you as a guitarist?
"JHBfR HOLDSWORTH guitar for a chordal section, just because he thought
the synthesizer sounded better than the guitar. I
Holdsworth: Because of the way that he is,
the way that he plays and the way that he does
Holdsworth: Stanley Jordan. And many more.
needed to get that out of my system and escape
from all the synth things. So we did the I.O.U., Road
When I got the Syn- things. It's his person. People play like they are, I
think. When I went to see him play with V.S.O.P.,
But I was just generalizing. When I got the Syn-
thAxe, it just sparked off this incredible interest in
Games, and Metal Fatigue—three trio albums. So
I've had four or five years of trio and I really felt
thAxe, it just sparked I felt I was going to burst into tears. It was Incredi-
ble. I can't describe it. He has such a grasp on
synthesis which I'd never thought of before. So I'm
trying to get a deeper understanding of synthesis
that I wanted to do something else.
Cymbiosis: And so you recruited Biily Childs.
off this incredible in- whatever it is that's real. Like Michael Brecker. I feel
so I can create my own sounds and programs. And the same thing when I hear him play now. And Keith
that is really exciting to me, because I'm so new
Holdsworth: Yeah. Originally, Alan Pasqua
was the guy I first thought of in the band, because
terest in synthesis Jarrett. It's just the whole of what Tony's doing, the
at it. I've got all this energy again like I had when way he's playing, experimenting, his timing, the
I just love the guy. I can't say enough good things
I first started playing. It's a different kind of energy about him. He's an incredible musician. which rd never whole thing. Whatever it is, he has It. And I'm total-
ly inspired by all that. I just felt like I wanted to go
than the one I have for just developing my musical Cymbiosis: You've worked with him quite a
knowledge. So one helps the other. It's a new in- bit in the past? thought of before. and hug him after the gig because he's so great.
It transcended just notes or anything. It's beyond.
spiration for me. Holdsworth: No, I worked with him with
I don't know what it is, but it sure makes you feel
Cymbiosis: Like a kid in a candy store all over Tony Williams, which is the only time. (I was
good.
again. definitely suffering from novice behavior in those
Holdsworth: In a way, yeah, because it's so days). And it was nice to get back together to play to remind me a little bit of too much of a Star Trek Cymbiosis: That's the key. Music should
new. I want to be able to make as Individual a sound with him again. So I asked him to play on Metal thing; because of the sound and the way that it transcend everything.
on that as what people think I do on the guitar. It Fatigue. He played a s o l o on " T h e Un-Merry- worked out. But I always had in mind to use her Holdsworth: And the other thing is that it can
has to be possible. I guess if I could do that, it vwuld Go-Round". because she's so talented. So when I wrote the also be really bad. I've played so bad sometimes,
prove something. [Laughs] O n "Atavachron", because I'd written and melody for "All Our Yesterdays", I tried it on guitar, it makes me literally want to stop and just not do
Cymbiosis: And leave your mark on the recorded most of the music on synthesizer, I wanted then tried it on synth, and I went, "Wait a minute, it anymore. I get so disturbed that it could even hap-
world? to get somebody else to come and play solos. So this is perfect for vocals, perfect for Rowanne," so pen. Sometimes I'd be so distracted by something
Holdsworth: Not like that. Just for my own Gary Willis, the bass player on"The Un-Merry-Go- I callerJ her and she asked me how I wanted to do that was so minimal that I'd just completely screw
satisfaction. I would like to be able to create—like Round','introduced me to the piano player, Billy it. I told her to have a go and write some [lyrics]. up everything. I could get so nervous that I actual-
Jan Hammer or Joe Zawinul. There's not many syn- Childs, and he sounded great. And through working I told her what I felt the music was about, and she ly couldn't remember anything. I remember once
thesists you can say that about. They're recognizable Bunny Brunei, I met Kei Akagi, who's fantastic. phoned me back a few days later, sang these lyrics at the Beverly Theater [L.A.]. It was horrendous. I
through the music. When I hear Chick Corea play He's the guy who's in the band now. over the phone and knocked me out. They were was actually on stage and I could not remember
synthesizer, I can recognize the musician—I can perfect. It was exactly what I had in mind for the any of the chords, the notes. . .anything. It's a fear.
Cymbiosis: He's the one we saw you with
hear the notes through the sound. It's still the music song. I was really pleased with the way that turned Then I can sit at home and play on my own when
at the Roxy [L.A., 14 March 1986].
that's the most important thing. That's all I want to out. there is nobody watching or listening and I can
Holdsworth: That's right, and Kei was actual-
achieve. I can now make a lot more sounds, so it's Cymbiosis: It seems as though we are kin- really do something; then as soon as I have to do
ly going to play on some of the album, but he wasn't
more inspirational to me in the writing sense. dred spirits with Star Trek and that's where the ti- it in front of people, it changes me. This last year,
available at the time. V\fe couldn't coordinate it, and
Sometimes I find a sound and I'll go off on a whole tle Atavachron comes from. Why that particular I knew that I had to do something about it. I've been
so I asked Alan and he played on two tracks, "Atava-
other thing than I would have done If I'd just been episode? consciously trying to relieve that kind of pressure
chron" and " M r . Berwell". Billy Childs played on
trying to write a piece on guitar. Holdsworth: It wasn't because of that episode from myself by trying not to worry so much about It.
"Funnels."
Cymbiosis: Well, your new album, Cymbiosis: Who is Mr. Berwell? so much. It was because of the machine, the Cymbiosis: ft sounds like you're awfully hard
Atavachron, because of the SynthAxe, has a distinct- Holdsworth: That's my son, Sam. It's a Atavachron. They [Capt. Kirk and Co.] knew that on yourself.
ly different sound from Metal Fatigue, the orte prior. nickname that Gary Husband came up with. It's this planet's sun Is about to nova, and decide to Holdsworth: Maybe I am. I don't mean to
Holdsworth: Vfeah, I think there's two reasons very involved and it would probably sound too check it out to see if they can do anything to help be. All I want to do is go out there and play, but
for that. O n e is because I've been thinking over the ridiculous to even get into. get the people off the planet. They find them all the fear sometimes overrides everything.
last couple of years that when I reviewed all the Cymbiosis: The very last track on the album, gone; they've all been processed through this Then I started to feel like I could change it.
albums, I'd never feel quite so happy with the vocal "All Our Yesterdays", is very different from the rest machine that puts them back into their own planet's I once had a really big argument with someone
tracks. Not because of the vocals, because Paul of the album. According to the title sheet, it's the history. There's something intriguing about that. So before we went on stage. It wasn't with a member
[Williams] sings great. It wasn't that. It's just because, only song in which there's any improvisation go- much of history is forgotten in some ways. It was of the band, it was with an outside person. And I
musically, they seem to be more watered down or ing on. . . just the way I had to look back into my own past remember, I felt like I had played reasonably well,
more fickle. They just didn't seem to be what I Holdsworth: There's improvisation on all of and the music I was listening to when I first started, and it really showed me: the anger had overridden
wanted. And I wanted to do an instrumental thing, the tracks. I mean, all the solos are improvised. The trying to figure out if I'd missed anything on the the fear. So I wasn't scared any more, because I
so when I got the SynthAxe, I was thinking in those only reason I wrote that down—the improvisation- way. And Atavachron is such a great word. I just love wasn't thinking about that. I was able to relax and
terms. So when I started to write the music, it just was it was total. We didn't have anything fixed. It the name and the title. "All Our \bsterdays" encom- get inside the music because it was such a relief
came out more instrumental. And, second, because was just absolutely, totally free. passed the same thing. It was a reflective kind of from what I'd just been dealing with, and playing
I was playing some of the synth parts and playing Cymbiosis: And on vocals... thing, and that's what that song's about. It's like was great. So that started me off. I feel you have
guitar, I realized we should definitely get a keyboard Holdsworth: Rowanne Mark. looking back over your own life. to get to that point, at least, to be able to go on
player in the band. Cymbiosis: Right. That's the first time you Cymbiosis: And "Looking Glass?" stage and even start to play, especially if you're go-
Cymbiosis: Vbu've gone away from keyboards ever recorded with a female vocalist on arty of your Holdsworth: No, "Looking Glass" was dif- ing to be improvising and trying to create
in the past, especially after your U.K. and Bruford songs. ferent. "Looking Glass" was because Tony Williams something.
days. Holdsworth: No, she sang on " H o m e " [from played on that track, and I always enjoyed working Cymbiosis: And you, being such an in-
Holdsworth: They were basically keyboard- Metal Fatigue] originally, but I chose not to use with him. It was just like having some of that again. dividualist, it seems that the fear wouidn't be so
dominated situations, and I wanted to reverse the it. Not because of her, I love the way she sings. She Cymbiosis: You've named Tony Williams as much from being abie to please the audience as
roles and use the guitar. For example, with Bill sang it beautifully and with no lyrics. But it started probably one of your biggest influences. Flow does Continued on page 40

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Holdsworth: Wfell, like harmonics and things
ALLAN HOLDSWORTI^ like that. PSfflRMATIoff Continued from page 33
Continued from Cymbiosis: D o you see moving from guitar
almost exclusively... pressed. So, with several demos and a completed group's second album. Released in 1985, Identity
much as pleasing yourself. Holdsworth: No, I'll never do that. I see it second album under their arms, the label shopping Crisis is the premiere project from Rhombus
Holdsworth: I guess it is. Obviously you as an addition because I'm still searching for the process began and soon ended. Records, which happens to be Affirmation's own
hope in your heart that people out there are going guitar sound. It's getting closer. It's getting more "We checked around and talked to lots of label. With its formation. Affirmation seems to have
to like you. I think the main reason anybody does horn-like, [laughs], so it must be getting closer. The different people and played some tapes for them a grip on the universal problems that plague most
anything is because they have a desire to do it, so SynthAxe guys, themselves, have no intention of it and somebody would say, 'Why don't you guys go professional musicians: musical creativity and per-
in that respect it's kind of selfish. But I'd like to go ever being a substitute. And the other thing is I don't with Windham Hill's sound. There's a big market sonal control over the recorded product.
up on stage and be able to be easy enough with particularly feel the need to get guitar sounds for that', or they'd say, 'I think you guys ought to "That's the nice thing about having our own
myself to play well, and sometimes I'm so uneasy simultaneously with the synthesized sounds. So I add some vocals and go R & B', or ' N o , man, go label. Wfe're not restricted or controlled by the
that I just can't even start. And usually that's when feel happy to put that guitar sound aside for a while into the metal fusion stuff like [Allan] Holdsworth', " higher-ups to tell us what to do or what we have
everything goes out the window. It's a horrible feel- and see what else there is out there. an obviously frustrated Thom said in relating the to sound like. We can just sidestep all that stuff.
ing because it's like I know I'm going to make a Cymbiosis: And when you come back to the negative experiences of dealing with record execs. The frustration is gone!" beams Jimbo. "Small
mistake before I make it. guitar, you can have a fresh approach to it. Thom continued, "They only know about record labels like ours are (bund throughout the
Cymbiosis: Then it becomes a self-fulfilling Holdsworth: Playing the SynthAxe has success in dollars and cents. The financial bottom history of jazz. You couldn't find some top quality
prophecy. helped my guitar playing, because in a way it's dif- line as opposed to creativity. It got to the point music on major labels because it just didn't sell.
Holdsworth: Yeah, it's like I'm almost scared ficult to play. It's taken me a while to get used to where I was having a hard time trying to write Some of the greatest players were on Blue Note and
then to start thinking. I have to get more inside it it. There's certain things about it that react differently something because everyone was telling us to do Riverside and some other great labels, and most of
somehow. So what I'm learning now is [to] ignore or feel different. When you deflect the string with these different things. As a band, we were having them have fallen by the wayside, like Inner City."
those things. If it doesn't sound quite right or the picking hand, obviously you can't feel anything an identity crisis about what we were going to do. Affirmation is a band that is determined to
whatever, I just ignore it, go through and do the on your finger of the left hand, because the string's So after another aborted contract with another com- succeed on their own terms. The personal commit-
music. not being deflected. Little things. So when I go back pany that shall remain nameless (we had the se- ment of energies and finances, as well as the
Cymbiosis: Perhaps one of the things you to the guitar, it just enhances the guitar in some cond album sitting in the can for almost a year), outstanding music on the Cymbiosis tape, bear this
could do to relax yourself is come up with your respects, without detracting from the SynthAxe at we decided that after dealing with these idiots, we out. It isn't easy to do it yourself in the music in-
Demon Ale. Are you still going to be brewing "Old all. {yc\ knew as much or more than they did about the dustry especially when your basis is >our ideals and
ffoldsworth's Demon Ale"? record business and how to do it. So we decided not the profit margin. But don't be mistaken. Affir-
Holdsworth: If I were rich, that's what I'd do: we were just going to put it out ourselves." mation isn't trying to lose money either. |D C I
start a brewery in California. I'd just brew a beer ALLAN HOLDSWORTH The 'fusion' controversy and the record com-
that I think would appeal to Americans just as much SELECTED DISCOGRAPHY pany hassles fueled the origin of the name of the (Catch them At M y Place, Tues., 26 Aug. at 8 p.m.)
as anybody else. I don't think you really have to
know anything about beer to be able to tell if it's 1975 Soft Machine/Bund/es. Harvest 062-96
good. And I think it'd do incredible. I'd love to put 356 (import)
up a pub somewhere in L.A: a real pub, not one 1975 GongfCazeuse. Virgin V2a74 (import)
of those plastic ones that they have there now. (also released in U.S. as Expresso. Col-
Cymbiosis: Maybe what you could do is midi umbia PZ 34428)
the SynthAxe through a vat of it, or a "Non Brew- 1975 Tony Williams Lifetime/Be/ieve It. Col-
ed Condiment". umbia PC 33836
[Laughter] 1976 Jean-Luc PDnty/£n;gmat/c Ocean. Atlan-
Holdsworth: Yeah, right. WeW, non-brewed tic CS19110
condiment is something that's use on fish and chips 1976 Tony Williams Lifetime/M;7/(on Dollar
in England because it's cheaper than malt vinegar. Legs. Columbia PC 34263
It's just a substitute for malt vinegar, like you have, 1977 Gong/Expresso //. Virgin V2009 (import)
in America, mayonnaise that's not real mayonnaise. 1977 Bill Bruford/fee/s G o o d To Me. Pblydor
And the reason for that [title] was that it was a tune 2302 075 (import)
that I did entirely on the SynthAxe. It was my first 1978 U K / U K . Polydor PD-1-6146
real synthetic piece in a way and since my favorite 1979 Gong/T/me Is The Key. Arista A B 4255
food is still fish and chips, and my favorite drink 1979 Bill Bruford/One of a K/nd.Polydor
is still ale, " N o n Brewed Condiment" seemed like PD-1-6205
the perfect title for that piece. 1981 Soft Machine'The Land of Cockayne. EMI
It's like I was saying, the fact that the Syn- EMC 3348 (import)
thaxe is different from the guitar makes it better. 1982 Allan Holdsworth//OU. Reissued 1985.
Psychologically I can relate that to the synth and Enigma 72031-1
to the sound. I can look and see the sound, whereas 1984 Allan Holdsworth/Road Games. Warner
on the guitar it's just made for something else, you Bros. 23959-1
know. And I can understand why there's going to 1985 Allan Holdsworth/Meta/ Fatigue.
be a lot of guitar players who may not like SynthAxe, Enigma 72002-1
because it's not like a guitar. It won't do some things 1986 Allan Holdsworth/Atavachron. Enigma
that are very guitaristic. ST-73203
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