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tuccer Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg593602#msg593602)

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) I have a Triple Info Display (TID) in my Opel. I want to send data to the screen via
Arduino. I find all the info about how to send the stuff but i dont know how to write
the libary for the display.
The infos are here: http://www.carluccio.de/index.php/Opel_TID
(http://www.carluccio.de/index.php/Opel_TID) in German.
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The second part is the circuit, i find also a sample circuit but it is not Arduino based.
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I think the transistors can work with the arduino but i have to connect one PNP and
Newbie one NPN to each other for controlling the SDA, SCL and MRQ lines. Is it right?
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tuccer Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg597462#msg597462)

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) explain for me?? (I'm very newbe in the Programming). The most important is that i
want to know is which pin  the MRQ, SDA, SCL. What are the PortC and PortB, PINB,
PINC,.. etc, and the unit8_get stuff.
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/****************************************************************/
/*                                                              */
/*              Opel Astra G TID Ansteuerung                    */
/*                     I2C-Protokol                             */
/*                                                              */
/****************************************************************/
#include <Wire.h>
#define TID 0x9B
#define _SCL  5
//#define _SCL_in    1
#define _MRQ  4
//#define _MRQ_in    3
#define  _SDA  4
//#define _SDA_in    5
#define PIN

void setup()
{
  SDA_high();
  SCL_high();
  MRQ_high();

void loop()
{
  MRQ_low();
  SDA_low();
  while(get_SDA());        //warte bis SDA low
  delay(50);
  MRQ_high();
  while(!get_SDA());        //warte bis SDA high
  delay(50);
  SDA_low();
  delay(50);
  SCL_low();
  delay(50);
   Wire.begin();
   Wire.beginTransmission(TID);
   MRQ_low();
   Wire.send(0x01); // Schalte Symbole aus
   Wire.send(0x01); // Schalte Symbole aus
   Wire.send(0x01); // Schalte Symbole aus
   Wire.send(0x85);// B
   Wire.send(0x8A);// E
   Wire.send(0xA4);// R
   Wire.send(0x8F);// G
   Wire.send(0x83);// A
   Wire.send(0x9B);// M
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    Wire.send(0x83);// A
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   Wire.send(0x86);// C
   Wire.send(0x9E);// O
   delay(50);
   MRQ_high();
   Wire.endTransmission();
   SDA_high();
   SCL_high();
   MRQ_high();
   delay(1000);
}

void MRQ_high(void)
{
  PORTB &= ~(1<<_MRQ  );
}

void MRQ_low(void)
{
  PORTB |= (1<<_MRQ);
}

void SCL_high(void){
  PORTC &= ~(1<<_SCL);
}

void SCL_low(void)
{
  PORTC |= (1<<_SCL);
}

void SDA_high(void)
{
  PORTC &= ~(1<<_SDA);
}

void SDA_low(void)
{
  PORTC |= (1<<_SDA);
}

uint8_t get_MRQ(void)
{
  return (PINB & (1<< _MRQ));
}

uint8_t get_SCL(void)
{
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}

tomasi Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg597658#msg597658)

Nov 15, 2011, 09:07 pm (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg597658#msg597658) #2
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Hi tuccer. Im new into programming. As i could notice , portA and stuff are related to
arduino port manipulation. Check this:
http://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/PortManipulation

tuccer Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg597752#msg597752)

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bill2009 Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg599071#msg599071)

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documentation which explains SDA etc
http://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/Wire

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Is seting a  particular pin on avr port B to 0 (which is odd given that it's called
action=karma;sa=applau MRQ_high).  I believe that it is equivalent to Arduino digital pin 12.  See the port
d;uid=5457;bb4458e=6b manipulation ref'd earlier and http://arduino.cc/en/Hacking/Atmega168Hardware
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4dd46d5dc) We could puzzle our way through all this but  really, your best bet would be to poke
around where you found the code and see if there's a connection diagram. 
Olduino - an arduino for the
first of us.
I'm interested in the project though.  Can you show us the display?  How will you get
access to it?

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Nov 18, 2011, 03:14 pm (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg599944#msg599944) #5
Thanx for your help!
Astra F) and its made for the stock radio to show the radio data and the time with the
temperature. The radio has no built in display and its connected with some wire to the
TID. Because i don't have the original radio, and i want to use the screen. 
The screen :
It is the Corsa TID but mine is the same.
The problem is that this communication is not clean I2C, because i have an MRQ pin
and it is must be use to start and stop the transmit. If  you see my links the german will
explain the complete protocol. 
I find some BASCOM codes but i totally don't know the Bascom Basic.
And of curse where i find the code there was no wireing diagrams or any explanations.
So lets play puzzle or rewrite the code in arduino language. I test the code with the
Arduino IDE and i's can complie so it is can be use with the arduino.
-thanks in advance and sorry for my english, i am a Hungarian guy.

Budd Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg741833#msg741833)

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Hey Tuccer, Have you already succeeded in connecting the TID? And where did you find
the code? Maybe there is a newer improved version?

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to translate them into code which will work with Arduino.

I know that asking someone to translate code would be too much to ask, but is there
any way someone could help a little here? As the code is too long to share in one post,
here is the complete code http://codetidy.com/4239/. A chunk of code is dedicated for
voltage measurement and display, and I'm not interested in it, so I don't need that.

Mostly, I'm confused about these initializations:

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// Timer/Counter 0 initialization
// Clock source: System Clock
// Clock value: Timer 0 Stopped
TCCR0=0x00;
TCNT0=0x00;

// Timer/Counter 1 initialization
// Clock source: System Clock
// Clock value: Timer1 Stopped
// Mode: Normal top=0xFFFF

Do I need any of these initializations for this code to work in Arduino?

Edit:
I've found Arduino code that looks like it shoud work, but as my Arduino hasn't yet
arrived, I have no way of checking it:

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#include <Wire.h>
void setup() {
pinMode(2, OUTPUT);
Wire.begin();

digitalWrite(2, LOW);
delay(200);
digitalWrite(2, HIGH);
delay(200);
Wire.beginTransmission(0x94);

It seems that this code follows procedure for sending text to the LCD:
1:Idle state all lines are high.
2:Pull MRQ low for a short period and let it go high again.
3:Send a "I2C Start"
4:Send the address byte, 0x94
5:Pull MRQ low.
6:Send 13 data bytes. (The 8 character display uses 10 databytes)
7:Let MRQ go high
8:Send "I2C Stop"
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MRQ  - pin 12   (port B, bit 4)
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SCL - pin A5   (standard hardware SCL pin, port C bit 5)
SDA - pin A4  (standard hardware SDA pin, port C bit 4).

To pull MRQ low for instance the MRQ_low() routine sets pin 12 to HIGH, since pin 12
turns on the NPN transistor
(the collector of which thus pulls MRQ low).

[ all port/pin numbers apply to Uno (ATmega328 chip) ]

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bobale Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?

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I'll check everyting once my Arduino arrives, and then I'll report back here.

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After three days of headache and frustration (great way to spend the holidays )i
came up with some working arduino code to drive my TID

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letters display, needs additional work to make it actually useful, but it's a good start i
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Hats off to you. But I can see you haven't used Arduino's I2C lib. Now, I have a question
about parity: is that a part of standard I2C protocol? I mean, can I just ditch those lines
of code and use Wire library? I have to ask because I can't try this as my Arduino hasn't
arrived yet.

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5) I have tried arduino wire library as well as two other i2c libraries (one being the base
upon i created the sketch above), but none of those worked for this display, so i think
parity is not part of the i2c protocol

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I was really hoping we could use Wire library, it would be so much simpler. Well, never
mind, I'll at least learn how to make libraries, if someone doesn't do that before me.

Giovanni83 Re: Opel TID Display (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=78634.msg1051647#msg1051647)

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5) uhm, making a library out of it wasn't as hard as i thought, so here it is:

Opel TID arduino library 1.0 (https://www.box.com/s/ejpz8fd0ngwetid4g5s3)

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