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Table of Contents:
Value Standards...................................................................................................................2
How to go against values.....................................................................................................2
Academic Excellence...........................................................................................................3
Advancement.......................................................................................................................3
Character..............................................................................................................................3
Democracy...........................................................................................................................3
Economic Welfare...............................................................................................................4
Equality ...............................................................................................................................5
Excellence............................................................................................................................5
General Welfare...................................................................................................................5
Global Welfare ....................................................................................................................6
Happiness ............................................................................................................................6
Honor...................................................................................................................................7
Human Rights......................................................................................................................7
Individual Rights..................................................................................................................8
Justice.................................................................................................................................10
Knowledge.........................................................................................................................11
Liberty................................................................................................................................11
National Security...............................................................................................................12
Progress/Positive Progress.................................................................................................13
Prosperity...........................................................................................................................14
Quality................................................................................................................................15
Quality of Life....................................................................................................................16
Truth...................................................................................................................................16
Unity..................................................................................................................................17
Victory...............................................................................................................................17
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Value Standards
• Absolute - valued same way by everyone, not dependent upon external conditions
for existence or for its specific nature
• Can’t be compromised - what affects does it have when not compromised?
• Definable - can be totally defined
• Intrinsic Value - must have good value, doesn't derive it's value from something
else. Something worth achieving
• Timeline - must be achieved in a reasonable amount of time.
Academic Excellence
Too Vague (Varies per person, therefore impossible to value highest)
Advancement
• Conservatism. Sometimes we have already achieved something great, and we
have to conserve it rather than keep advancing it. In fact we hope in this round
that once we achieve our value, we conserve it and keep upholding it.
• Not a value. We assume in this round that we are advancing towards our value,
that’s what “upholding a value” means, we are advancing towards it. Therefore,
by upholding my value, we will be advancing and progressing.
• Vague. Technological advancement, social advancement, scientific advancement?
Character
• Character is a good thing *to* value, but it isn't a *good* value
• Too broad, (my value) is achievable and tangible. Character is more than one
value.
• Relative to culture
• How do you know that you still have character when you've had to compromise a
virtue or part of your character? (possibly even to protect another aspect of your
character)
• Characer must be attained before it is good. People of character may make good
decisions, but they must first get that character. (only use this if you've shown that
comp. doesn't equal character).
• Defined by other values
Democracy
1) No Guarantee of a just Democracy
Jeff Landauer and Joseph Rowlands, co-author of Importance of Philosophy , and the
designer of this web site; engineer, specializes in cache coherency, and have about 49
(and counting) patents issued, 2001 (Democracy, 2001,
http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Bloody_Democracy.html)
“Democracy is rule by the majority. There are no limits to what the majority is allowed to
decide. It can decide to pass laws based on a whim, with no respect for rights. It can pass
laws against painting your house white as easy as it can pass laws against murder.”
Who is to say that the people will always decide to pass laws that help society instead of
take away from it? If the government’s ruling is always only what the people want done,
anything can happen and any laws can be passed.
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2) Minorities Suffer
Jeff Landauer and Joseph Rowlands, co-author of Importance of Philosophy , and the
designer of this web site; engineer, specializes in cache coherency, and have about 49
(and counting) patents issued, 2001 (Democracy, 2001,
http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Bloody_Democracy.html)
“Those that suffer the most under a democracy are the minorities. The smaller the group,
the less say they have in government. But majority and minority change with each issue
or policy. Everyone finds themselves as part of the minority at some point. But since the
majority rule, the government has no fear of rebellion to hold them accountable for their
actions. Democracy unfettered means the minority can become the prey of the majority.”
3) Unlimited Power
Samuel L. Blumenfeld, Author of books on education in the US, graduated from The
City College of New York edited the Universal Library at Grosset & Dunlap, 2006 (Why
Democracy is Bad, 2006,
http://atangledweb.typepad.com/weblog/2006/02/why_democracy_i.html)
“In a pure democracy, the majority has the power to destroy a minority. That's what
happened in Germany in 1933 when the majority voted Hitler’s National Socialist Party
in. Hitler then consolidated his power into the Nazi dictatorship with its deranged racism
and plans for world domination. Hitler stated all of this in his own book, "Mein Kampf,"
which any German could have read. At first German Jews assumed that Hitler would not
last long. The Nazi movement was so much against basic German traditions of cultural
and religious tolerance. But they were wrong. And now among Palestinians, 60 years
after Hitler, we have the same situation. A political party, Hamas, determined to wipe
Israel off the map, has acquired political power through the democratic vote. This is pure
democracy, unfettered by any constitutional limitations.”
Economic Welfare
Slavery was valuing Economic Welfare
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Equality
• Unachievable
• Inherent inequality-- people are born with different abilities/handicaps
• Equality means nothing without another value being represented first and
foremost. For example, you can kill everyone, which is treating them all the same,
but you are neglecting life.
• Socialist/communist governments value equality Valuing equality higher than
anything else has been historically proven to lead to disastrous results [Jones
Town, Communism, tax reforms, etc]
• Countered by need for authority
Excellence
• People can excel in virtually anything (i.e. Drug Dealing)
• Too Vague, we can not discuss everything that is excellence (No boundaries, can
be good or bad)
• Too broad. We can’t possibly talk about everything in this debate round, we need
a more narrow value so that we can focus our argumentation in one or two areas.
General Welfare
1. Vagueness: No Brightline
With Definitions like "good for all" or "all things morally right," We don't really
know what it consists of.
ideas of only the majority of the group, because of this, it compromises the ideas of each
individual’s form of happiness. For example, when Hitler came into power the majority
that followed him saw their idea of happiness as favorable but the minorities form of case
was unfavorable. In the end not everyone gets the general welfare they specifically want
or define. Basically the majority wins instead of the minority no matter which is right.
6/Impact:
The Proper place for General Welfare is a side effect (additional outcome), not the
highest goal for the above reasons:
Global Welfare
• Unattainable
• Uncontrollable
• What is "Good" for everybody?
• Many teams will only talk about the civilized world. In that case, bring up "the
rest of the world".
Happiness
• Not important Enough, not highest value
• Happiness is Conditional
• Relative, not absolute
• Undefinable, unattainable
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Honor
Not as important as Human Life, Survival, etc - examples: Hiroshima/Nagasaki,
Guantanamo Interrogation Tactics
Human Rights
1. Internal Conflict
a) Abortion (Life vs Liberty)
b) Flag Burning (Liberty vs. Honor)
c) Fred Phelps, Westboro Baptist Church-Their free speech rights came into conflict
with the rights of a grieving military family. People don’t agree on the definition of
Human Rights in each situation. What Human Rights are, is not even agreed upon even
here in the US.
2. Relative to Judgment
No clear definition. When does a baby have the right to life and when does the
mother have the freedom to get an abortion? The constant debates about this subject
in America prove that there is no clear definition. Gay marriage is another example where
the right to “liberty” is not clearly defined, and states disagree.
Everybody has different ideas because they come from different families, belief
systems…etc.
Impact: People may have bad judgement (politicians…individuals in society)
3. Relative to Law
Texas (robberies)
Death Penalty differences between states (CA has capital punishment, MA doesn't)
Subject to Judgement of Lawmakers
4. Relative to Culture
Islam: Quran (Male authority over women) The Quran of Islam states that a man can
beat his wife if she disobeys him. Obviously these are not the same freedoms that women
enjoy here in America.
Rifqa Bary - "Rifqa confirmed to ABC's Orlando affiliate WFTV that she believed
her father would kill her. 'They have to kill me because I'm a Christian. It's an honor
[killing]. If they love me more than God, then they have to kill me,' she
explained." http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8303567&page=1
5. Must be Compromised
Hiroshima/Nagasaki (Innocent citizens suffered for the HR of others)
GITMO
Torture (Water-boarding)
(If they say that it was compromised to save a greater ratio of people than are being
killed, ask how big of a ratio is needed-and who decides it. Should we sacrifice 10 people
to save 1,000? What about 1 person to save 3?)
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6. Multiple Values
Provides Negative with "less ground"...Lincoln-Douglas is a Value debate (one value
vs. one value)
No end to adding values.
Individual Rights
1) Individual Rights are the right to do anything and everything you want with
yourself. These rights only exist in a state of nature (an absence of government or
society) because they are purely relating to a single human being. However, Individual
Rights in the state of nature had three problems: misperception of natural law, lack of
objective arbiters, and inequalities of strength. To solve these three problems, "Individual
Rights" were deserted for Citizen's Rights.
2) Through the Social Contract, Individual Rights are transformed into Citizen's
Rights. The Individual delegates the absolute right of self-preservation and the absolute
right of taking out punishment on others to the government, which in turn provides for
the just, impartial protection of the Citizen's property. Society provides a set standard for
perception of natural law. Objective arbiters are put into place in a government’s judicial
branch. Finally, restraints are put into place to protect the weak and helpless.
3) Because these "Rights" are delegated to the government, they don't disappear.
The government and society now protect your person, provide justice for crimes, and
protect the property of citizens.
In conclusion, Individual Rights are left behind in the state of nature when the individual
joins a society and is provided with a better alternative, Citizen's Rights.
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3) Qur’an
The Koran establishes the superiority of Men over Women and allows a husband the
Islamic equivalent of Marital Abuse, a serious crime in the western world.
"Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the
one above the other….chide those for whose [disobedience] you have cause to fear;
remove them into beds apart, and scourge them…God is High, [God is] Great!"
(Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
In 1879, law scholar Nicholas St. John Green wrote, "The cases in the American courts
are uniform against the right of the husband to use any [physical] chastisement, moderate
or otherwise, toward the wife, for any purpose." Green also cites the 1641 Body of
Liberties of the Massachusetts Bay colonists -— one of the first legal documents in North
American history —- as an early de jure condemnation of violence by either spouse.
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People generally assume that Individual Rights are the rights to Life, Liberty, and the
pursuit of Happiness. As we can see from the definitions, individual rights are things that
a person is entitled to because they are a person. This overlaps with the rights to Life,
Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but more generally includes rights to free speech,
free assembly, free movement, health, and others.
1. Self-Destructive
The free exercise of any one individual's rights necessitates an infringement of an other's.
For instance, my right to freedom of movement includes my right to move where, when
and as fast as I want. By using this right and driving very quickly through a residential
area, I endanger other's rights to life, free movement, and safety. The complete exercise
of just one of my rights as an individual compromises many in return. One individual's
rights destroy another's rights as they are exercised, and I would argue that Individual
Rights, as a whole, are self-destructive.
2. Divisive
Thomas Hobbes, in his book Leviathan, postulates that the reason governments are
formed is to protect its citizens from hurting each other as they pursue their own desires.
Citizens limit the use of their individual rights to live without fear of other people.
Individual rights are divisive because they elevate the good of the individual above the
good of the group. Unlimited use of individual rights hinders the government’s
responsibility to protect its citizens, and as a result, divides the community.
Journalist Robert J. Samuelson has said "We face a choice between a society where
people accept modest sacrifices for a common good or a more contentious society where
group selfishly protect their own benefits."
Justice
1) Different Standards
Different cultures have different standards of Justice - Different cultures have different
forms of punishment they use for crimes (For example, the act of adultery may lose one
their job/reputation in the U.S. whereas it may get one stoned to death Middle Eastern
countries), which of these is 'right'? We can’t ever know who is right and what is true
Justice.
2) Justice is Indefinable
Justice is not something that one can define, therefore it cannot carry weight in the round
as a value.
Edmond Nathaniel Cahn, expert on jurisprudence, wrote in The Sense of Injustice (1949)
–“Justice is impossible to define. It's an idea rather than a concept that people can agree
on.” Justice, as opposed to being something tangible, is more abstract and unattainable.
You can never come to an absolute model.
think it is their just due to be able to have an abortion should there be an unplanned
pregnancy. Others think it is unjust to dispense of innocent unborn children. In this case,
who gets their idea of ‘justice’? Do we uphold justice for the mother, or for the child?
The pro-choice national website states about abortion, “It is also available thanks to all
those working to ensure safe, legal, and accessible abortion care to promote health and
justice [emphasis added] for women.” Yet John Ollason, a professor of ecology at
University of Aberdeen, Scotland, writes, “Abortion may be expedient, but it is never
just.”
Knowledge
• It changes, its relative. What may be “known” now, may be proven false later.
(Climategate) There’s not a limit, you can’t ever really achieve it.
• Even increasing knowledge isn't inherently good
Liberty
1) Liberty is vague.
The definition of Liberty does not specify what control we are free from. This is harmful
because it gives us the freedom to disobey God, our parents or whoever we want to, thus
leading to chaos. If Liberty is valued to the ultimate we won’t know what we are valuing.
“Liberty, equality - bad principles! The only true principle for humanity is justice; and
justice to the feeble is protection and kindness.”
- Henri-Frédéric Amiel
Impact: If you vote for Liberty, you won’t know what you are valuing.
“The object and practice of liberty lies in the limitation of government power.” General
Douglas MacArthur
National Security
• No intrinsic value - it gets value protecting OTHER values
• If valued too highly it can violate certain human rights [Patriot Act]
• "Those who would give up liberty for a little partial security deserve neither
liberty nor security."
• Unattainable, idealistic Value (never completely achieved)
• Not the most important value. Some things are worth risking your life for, like
your family or your country.
• Not the most important value. Some things are worth risking your life for, like
your family or your country.
• Not personable. This isn’t a value for you and me. How can we protect national
security, without joining the military or navy?
• Achieved wrongly. Bombing all of our enemies would make us safe but would be
evil.
Progress/Positive Progress
1. Progress is Defined by Other Values
The only way we can determine what progress is is looking at the outcome, the
value.
a. Progression toward something [My Value]
b. No Intrinsic Value: Progress is a means not an end
c. For these reasons, Can't be the Highest Value in the round.
Link to the Resolution and explain that we have to show one value as the
highest
Were the technological, medicinal, agricultural advances worth the cost of BIG
government? Founding Fathers set up a limited Gov, but Progressives pushed to make the
government big enough to solve all their problems.
Progressives believed that they could sole all of mankind's problems by themselves.
That better schools, tech., living conditions, etc would lead them to a utopia.
APP: Socialism - Former Head of the American Railway Union Eugene Debs was at
the forefront of the progressive era advocating socialism as the ultimate goal we should
be progressing towards.
APP: 18th Amendment (Prohibition) - Social Workers/Christians/Moral People Saw
what alcoholism did to americas. They decided to take the issue into their own hands and
passed the 18th amendment (Which they thought was progress). But the rest of america
wasn't too fond of the idea (took away their liberty), and eventually the 18th amd. was
repealed.
APP: Industrial Revolution - Although the Industrial Revolution was a time of great
progress, when people put that opportunity and progress above Human Beings, there
were gave consequences. An example of this is child labor, where children were worked
long hours for little pay.
Prosperity
1. Prosperity is vague. Prosperity is vague because the definition includes extremely
unclear words and is easily interpreted in completely different ways. For example, the
words good fortune can take on many different forms.
Prosperity conflicts
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3. Prosperity in the hands of the wrong person can be devastating. For example,
China’s economy is now prospering; however, this prosperity caused an increase in
human rights abuses in areas like child labor. Also consider Iran. Iran desires prosperity
to obtain nuclear weapons. These nuclear weapons will be potentially used to eliminate
the nation of Israel. In other words, Iran’s prosperity is dependent on Israel’s destruction.
Quality
1. Quality is relative or unnecessary
“…people differ from each other on what products and product attributes they care
about.”
ILYA Somin, Associate Professor of Law, George Mason University School of Law
http://volokh.com/posts/1189320628.shtml
a) Economic experience and common sense show that people like choices. Not that
they enjoy making hard decisions, but that they prefer to have options when buying.
Because there are choices, not everyone will choose the same product. My opponent has
proposed the value of quality, however we can see that either people don’t care about
quality (and thus buy a less than quality product for convenience’s sake), or quality is
subject to each person’s preferences. Otherwise we would all be buying the same
computers and allergy medicine. If people don’t always choose quality, then it must not
be that important as to value it above all else, or if quality is relative, then it can never be
achieved or even strived for. How can we strive for quality if some people already
believe we have quality, and while some people won’t consider anything to be up to their
standards of quality?
-Depending on their definition of quality:
b) Sometimes quality is too expensive
c) Functionality is just fine for some people
d) Quality is not something necessary, but simply something nice.
Opponent Argument: “There are different choices of Pepsi flavors. In instances like that
it doesn’t matter if quality is relative.”
Response: That’s not really choice. Choice would be between Coke and Pepsi.
Quality of Life
1. Relative to Each Person's Judgment (Not Absolute)
APPs
a) Middle Age Monks: Intentional Decrease of "Quality of Life"
[If they say…"well that was their idea of Q of L"…that just makes your case
all the more]
b) Euthanasia. If we value Quality of Life above any other Value (LD VALUE
Debate), then logically, when we have a situation (Teri Schaivo) where someone has
"bad" quality of life, it would be better to terminate that life that to leave it in a "bad"
state.
c) Mentally Ill/Special Needs/Disabled…
Truth
• No tangible impact/importance to the real world
• Truth can't be categorized as "good" OR "bad"
• Truth is relative (Changes)…each person has a different idea of what constitutes
"Truth"
• Weak Value
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• Means to an end
Unity
• No intrinsic value
• impossible - not everyone will always agree on important issues [Civil War -
States Rights/Slavery]
Victory
• "If winning is the highest value then you shouldn't vote in this round because one
of us would have to lose"
• No intrinsic value