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1NC – Courts CP........................................................................................................................... 3
Solvency – General.....................................................................................................................................................4
Solvency – General.....................................................................................................................................................5
Solvency – General – Fifth Amendment....................................................................................................................6
Solvency – General – Fifth Amendment....................................................................................................................7
Solvency – Visa Caps – First Amendment.................................................................................................................8
Solvency – Beneficiary Eligibility – First Amendment..............................................................................................9
AT: Rollback.............................................................................................................................................................10
AT: Rollback.............................................................................................................................................................11
AT: Rollback.............................................................................................................................................................12
AT: Rollback.............................................................................................................................................................13
Net Benefits...................................................................................................................................14
Net Benefit – International Law 1/2.........................................................................................................................15
Net Benefit – International Law2/2..........................................................................................................................16
Net Benefit – Midterms............................................................................................................................................17
Net Benefit – Agenda Politics...................................................................................................................................18
Extension – Courts Don’t Link to Politics................................................................................................................19
Extension – Courts Don’t Link to Politics................................................................................................................20
Extension – Net Benefit – Ilaw.................................................................................................................................21
Plenary Powers Bad – Unique Internal Link............................................................................................................22
Plenary Powers Bad – Self-Determination...............................................................................................................23
Plenary Powers Bad – Presidential Powers..............................................................................................................24
Plenary Powers Bad – Presidential Powers..............................................................................................................25
Plenary Powers Bad – Separation of Powers............................................................................................................26
AT: Plenary Powers Good – Terrorism....................................................................................................................27
AT: Court Disadvantages............................................................................................................28
AT: Judicial Activism...............................................................................................................................................29
AT: Judicial Activism...............................................................................................................................................30
AT: Judicial Activism...............................................................................................................................................31
AT: Legitimacy DA..................................................................................................................................................32
AT: Legitimacy DA..................................................................................................................................................33
AT: Court Stripping DA...........................................................................................................................................34
AT: Court Stripping DA...........................................................................................................................................35
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AFF Answers................................................................................................................................36
AFF: 2AC Court Stripping DA.................................................................................................................................37
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AFF: 2AC Court Stripping DA.................................................................................................................................39
AFF: Extension – CP  Court Stripping.................................................................................................................40
AFF: Extension – CP  Court Stripping.................................................................................................................41
AFF: Extension – Court Stripping Turns Plenary Powers........................................................................................42
AFF: Double Bind.....................................................................................................................................................43
AFF: Courts Link to Politics.....................................................................................................................................44
AFF: Courts Link to Politics.....................................................................................................................................45
AFF: Permutation – Shielding..................................................................................................................................46
AFF: Permutation – Shielding..................................................................................................................................47
AFF: No Solvency – No Authority...........................................................................................................................48
AFF: No Solvency – No Authority...........................................................................................................................49
AFF: No Solvency – Rollback..................................................................................................................................50
AFF: International Law Bad – Democracy...............................................................................................................51
AFF: International Law Bad – Terrorism.................................................................................................................52
AFF: International Law Bad – SOP..........................................................................................................................53
AFF: International Law Bad – Constitution.............................................................................................................54
AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Leadership................................................................................................................55
AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Human Rights...........................................................................................................56
AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Tyranny.....................................................................................................................57
AFF: AT: International Law Good – General...........................................................................................................58
AFF: AT: International Law Good – Solves Conflict..............................................................................................59
AFF: AT: International Law Good – Climate Change.............................................................................................60
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1NC – Courts CP
Counterplan Text: The United States Supreme Court should rule that caps on ___________
visas are unconstitutional.

Contention One: Competition

The counterplan is functionally and textually competitive – it does the plan without
congressional action and avoids the link to politics

Contention Two: Solvency

The counterplan solves and ends the plenary powers doctrine

Laplante 99, visiting assistant professor at Marquette University Law School


(Lisa, “EXPEDITED REMOVAL AT U.S. BORDERS: A WORLD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION NAME,”
New York University School of Law Review of Law and Social Change 1999 25 N.Y.U. Rev. L. & Soc. Change
213, l/n)
If the bills introduced by Congress fail to pass, reforming the expedited removal system presents formidable
challenges since Congress has enjoyed almost limitless freedom to regulate the admission and exclusion of
foreign nationals at United States ports of entry, as discussed above. The Supreme Court has never used an
Equal Protection or due process analysis to strike down a congressional statute whose substance regulated
solely immigration law based on race or any other grounds. n271 Although in pre-IIRIRA days, INS
exclusion practice could be attacked as denying due process and equal protection in practice, n272 the 235
expedited removal provision needs to be challenged on its face since it does not even allow for judicial
review of its application. Although never done, such an affront may not be completely unthinkable:
[*269] despite the judiciary's substantial abdication in the immigration field, the government's
immigration power is not entirely unconstrained. To begin with, courts have not absolutely foreclosed
the possibility of judicial review of the government's substantive immigration decisions. In recent years,
the Supreme Court has intimated that in the event of the particularly egregious misuse of government
power in this area - what this might be has never been specified - the courts would not stand by. n273
The greatest hurdle to judicial review requires the court to scrutinize a Congressional act that falls
squarely within the plenary power doctrine, i.e. the admission/exclusion of foreign nationals. However,
if the Court seriously evaluates the assumptions upon which the plenary power rests, and the changes
in notions of individual rights of foreign nationals in light of changes in the concept of sovereignty, it
may realize it is time to adjust immigration law to comport with the same standards by which the rest of
American law must abide.
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Solvency – General
The courts can rule to overrule congressional and executive visa policy

Delgado 9 (Tatyana, J.D. Candidate, “THE DOCTRINE OF CONSULAR ABSOLUTISM BEHIND,”


Georgetown Immigration Law Journal, Fall, 24 Geo. Immigr. L.J. 55)
In most of the cases discussed above, courts acknowledged that USCs with constitutional claims may seek
review of visa denials; thus, the practical effect of these decisions involved an abandonment of the
doctrine of consular absolutism. Proper reviews of visa denials based on constitutional claims inevitably
involve an assessment of decisions made by consular officers. Even under circumstances where the DHS
or the DOS becomes involved in the visa denial process of a given individual, consular officers are still key
players in the decision-making process. In addition, these cases indicate that [*67] although the political
branches of the government have the power to exclude and expel, the power is not and should not be
absolute. n82 The inevitable possibility for error or abuse among members of the executive branch
establishes the need for a formal mechanism for third-party review. If courts are willing and able to
circumvent the doctrine within the context of First Amendment and Due Process claims made by
USCs, then courts should be able to do the same in other contexts involving USC and LPR visa
petitioners. Rather than requiring that USC and LPR visa petitioners devise creative constitutional claims in
order to obtain judicial review, a formal mechanism for the review of consular decisions should be
established.

The Courts can rule on visa policy – plenary powers is unconstitutional

Laplante 99, visiting assistant professor at Marquette University Law School


(Lisa, “EXPEDITED REMOVAL AT U.S. BORDERS: A WORLD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION NAME,”
New York University School of Law Review of Law and Social Change 1999 25 N.Y.U. Rev. L. & Soc. Change
213, l/n)
[*219] Renewed challenges to the plenary power doctrine build on previous arguments to expose how
the assumptions upon which the doctrine rests have dramatically changed. n29 In the late 1890s, the
Supreme Court created the plenary power doctrine to avoid scrutinizing a Congressional act that excluded
Chinese nationals even if they had substantial liberty or property interests in the United States. n30 The
decision was motivated by xenophobic fears and conceptions of sovereignty that no longer apply to
contemporary America. n31 In particular, since the creation of the plenary power doctrine, there has
been a shift both at the international and national level towards balancing the rights of individuals
with the rights of the sovereign, an approach that further undermines the plenary power doctrine.
Challenging the insulation of immigration law relies on the legal principle that, as the assumptions that
led to a seminal decision changes, so should the precedent. Scholars and advocates alike call upon the
courts to recognize that the plenary power is no longer tenable and should be abandoned. The author
presents these arguments believing that if the Court finally conceded that the plenary power doctrine
can no longer be justified, it would free itself to find the expedited removal procedure in violation of
the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
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Solvency – General

The courts can review visa decisions – gives them the power to overrule visa decisions

Delgado 9 (Tatyana, J.D. Candidate, “THE DOCTRINE OF CONSULAR ABSOLUTISM BEHIND,”


Georgetown Immigration Law Journal, Fall, 24 Geo. Immigr. L.J. 55)
Thus, reviewing the decision of cabinet officer is not, in practical terms, drastically different from
reviewing the decision of a consular officer in situations where the decisions made by the two
individuals are related to the same issue: whether to grant or deny an individual a visa.
In addition, American Academy provides an example of a situation wherein the DHS influenced the decision
of a consular officer. The MOU established in 2003 gives the DHS the ability to play a greater role in the
visa issuance process. Because the doctrine of consular absolutism does not apply to DHS officials, and
DHS officials may influence the decisions of consular officers, the consular officers' ultimate decisions
should also be subject to review. Thus, as a result of DHS' increased ability to influence the visa
process, it has become less clear that the doctrine of consular absolutism should be upheld.
Therefore, in both Mandel and American Academy, the courts acknowledged their ability to review the
visa denial decisions of the Attorney General and consular officers in cases where USCs' constitutional
rights are implicated

The plenary powers doctrine is dead – the Supreme Court can rule on whatever it wants
with regards to immigration

Feere 9, Legal Policy Analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies


(Jon, “Plenary Power: Should Judges Control U.S. Immigration Policy?” Center for Immigration Studies, February,
http://www.cis.org/plenarypower)
Despite decades of judicial support for the political branches’ plenary power over immigration, the doctrine
is not without some cracks. Soon after the early Chae Chan Ping, Ekiu, and Fong Yue Ting cases and prior to
the Knauffdecision in 1950, the Supreme Court softened the plenary power doctrine in a number of cases and
carved out some exceptions, especially for individuals facing deportation who claimed to be U.S.
citizens.43 But most of these small exceptions were short-lived as the plenary power was reinvigorated
by Knauff, Mezei, and the other cases discussed above. Nevertheless, with the inevitable appointment of
new justices to the Supreme Court and an increasing focus on individual rights during the 1960s and
70s came a judicial willingness to wield “a scalpel [and] dissect the administrative organization of the
Federal Government,” at least according to a dissenting Justice Rehnquist in his defense of the plenary
power doctrine.44 As the judicial branch expanded the number and types of immigration claims it would
hear, the result was a chipping away of the plenary power doctrine. But trying to make sense of the high
court’s inconsistent immigration decisions has justifiably been a challenge for the brightest of legal scholars.
Quite simply, the agenda of judges opposed to the plenary power doctrine has been to slowly begin
applying semi-constitutional norms — what some academics call “phantom norms” — to basic
immigration cases that would not otherwise escape the reach of the plenary power doctrine. 45 The
thinking is that if the Supreme Court could squeak out a few cases that superficially apply
constitutional norms in the immigration context (e.g., the use of a First Amendment analysis as a bar
against deportation, race-based civil rights claims as an argument against exclusion, protections against cruel
and unusual punishment), then slowly, over time, the entire notion of dragging nearly every deportation
or exclusion hearing into the judicial branch and granting constitutional protections to all aliens —
both those within and outside the country — would become the status quo. The resulting decisions,
logically, are much more sympathetic to the alien as the increasingly powerful judiciary finds more and more
justifications for denying exclusions and deportations. The overall outcome is that political decision-making
in immigration law becomes usurped by unelected, and largely unaccountable, Article III judges with little or
no understanding of the political implications of their decisions.
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Solvency – General – Fifth Amendment
Federal visa restrictions are unconstitutional – persons beyond the US borders are given
legal protections

Laplante 99, Visiting Assistant Professor of Law at Marquette University


(Lisa, “EXPEDITED REMOVAL AT U.S. BORDERS: A WORLD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION NAME,”
New York University School of Law Review of Law and Social Change 1999 25 N.Y.U. Rev. L. & Soc. Change
213, l/n)
The geographical distinction, however, began to melt in the landmark case Landon v. Plasencia, in which the
court extended due process protections to exclusion proceedings in which the foreign national is a lawful
permanent resident seeking to return from brief visits abroad. n253 The rationale looked at the individual
stakes which render the exclusion proceeding to be de facto deportation thereby triggering basic procedural
protections. n254 For [*265] instance, a legal permanent resident would have entitlement to be admitted to
the U.S. through not only the government's permission but also through her "membership connections" to our
society. n255 Therefore, under Landon, a foreign national avoids being sent back to her point of
departure if she can somehow demonstrate entitlement through a valid visa or "substantial
connections" to the U.S. n256The immigration judge uses these factors to determine whether the individual
has more at stake and thus deserves more protection. n257
Since Landon diminished the importance of location and based entitlement on something other than
citizenship, it may be possible to conclude that foreign nationals considered to be located outside of U.S.
jurisdiction, may nonetheless be considered "persons" protected by the Constitution whose "stakes"
create a liberty interest. n258 Emphasis on the foreign national's status as a person lays the foundation for
expanding due process protections to all foreign nationals located outside of US territory despite the
plenary power doctrine. n259
As was presented in the first half of this article, the "substantial connection" test should apply in the
expedited removal system, but when INS officers fail to refer a foreign national to an INA 240 hearing, she
never has the opportunity to demonstrate her entitlement to admission, consequently she is denied her due
process rights. It can be argued that because every foreign national may potentially be able to prove
"substantial connections," the procedural protections afforded all foreign nationals arriving [*266] at
U.S. ports of entry previous to IIRIRA n260 was not at the discretion of Congress but rather codification of
existing and inherent due process protections.
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Solvency – General – Fifth Amendment
US Treaty obligations give the Supreme Court 5th Amendment grounds

Laplante 99, Visiting Assistant Professor of Law at Marquette University


(Lisa, “EXPEDITED REMOVAL AT U.S. BORDERS: A WORLD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION NAME,”
New York University School of Law Review of Law and Social Change 1999 25 N.Y.U. Rev. L. & Soc. Change
213, l/n)
Since the plenary power doctrine originally arose out of sources of international law, it follows that, as
international concepts change, the domestic ones should adjust accordingly. n185 The nineteenth
century origin of [*251] sovereignty rested on the fears of national security that in most respects ring hollow
today. n186 The pivotal point, as discussed, came from the majority's pronouncement in the Chinese
Exclusion Case that the jurisdiction of the nation within its own territory is necessarily exclusive and
absolute. It is susceptible of no limitation not imposed by itself. Any restriction upon it, deriving validity
from an external source, would imply a diminution of its sovereignty to the extent of the restriction, and an
investment of that sovereignty to the same extent in that power which could impose such restriction. n187
The Court, by reiterating a premise established in earlier judicial interpretations, overlooked that sovereignty
is in fact a flexible doctrine. n188 Yet, as is typical with the common law tradition, this mere omission
became axiomatic to the Court. Moreover, the continuing adherence to this doctrine ignores the real changes
in the relationship among nations which has diminished vulnerability to foreign invasion or control,
especially by immigrants arriving for personal reasons. n189 The decision also neglected to explore the
constitutional restrictions, especially found in the Bill of Rights, to this unenumerated power although
admitting that such restrictions would trump the plenary power doctrine. n190
[*252] In other words, not only have the threats to sovereignties changed, so too has the notion that this
power can not be constrained by considerations of individual rights. Before World War II, international law
emphasized the rights of states to regulate themselves. n191 Following the war, when the world witnessed
the atrocities that a nation can inflict on its own people, n192 nations came together to draft various
multilateral treaties to promote the idea that all people are entitled to basic, fundamental rights which require
a redefinition of sovereignty. n193 Currently, in a number of international forums, national leaders are
engaging in an active examination of how the concept of sovereignty must adjust to changing political
contexts. n194
[*253] In the case of immigration law, the basic request for due process protections in the
determination of a foreign national's status can be found in various international instruments such as
the Universal Declaration of Human Rights ("UDHR"), n195 International Covenant of Civil and Political
Rights ("ICCPR"), n196 and American Convention on Human Rights ("American Convention"). n197
These treaties emphasize that "universal approaches require that [national] constitutional provisions
that create rights with no express limitations as to the persons or places covered should be interpreted
as applicable to every person and at every place." n198
The implication of celebrating individual rights shifts the balance away from a sovereignty's
absolutism, n199 and promotes "a notion of fundamental [*254] human rights that protects
individuals regardless of their status." n200 The ICCPR begins by "recognizing that these [civil and
political rights] derive from the inherent dignity of the human person." n201 It further acknowledges that it is
the duty of all member states to "promote universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and
freedoms." n202 Of these human rights, the right to due process is often viewed as fundamental, and basic
guarantees of due process can be found in the ICCPR: a fair and public hearing with a competent,
independent and impartial judge that will lead to an effective remedy. n203 The United States is a party to
the ICCPR n204 and technically should abide by these principles, many of which mirror the basic
principles found in the United States Constitution, including basic due process tenants of the Fifth
Amendment. In fact, the ICCPR, along with another treaty, has come to be called the "International Bill of
Rights," n205 [*255] extending to all the world's people the rights found in our own Bill of Rights. n206
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Solvency – Visa Caps – First Amendment
The Mandel decision establishes precedent

Delgado 9 (Tatyana, J.D. Candidate, “THE DOCTRINE OF CONSULAR ABSOLUTISM BEHIND,”


Georgetown Immigration Law Journal, Fall, 24 Geo. Immigr. L.J. 55)
Under limited circumstances, USCs have been able to overcome the doctrine of consular absolutism by
bringing constitutional claims. In several [*63] cases, judges have been willing to review USCs' First
Amendment and Due Process claims related to the denial of visas to non-citizens.
a. First Amendment Context
Kleindienst v. Mandel n56 provides insight on courts' ability to review visa denials by executive branch
officials in instances where USCs have asserted First Amendment claims. In Mandel, Mandel and several
USCs, including university professors, alleged that the Attorney General (AG) and the Secretary of State
violated their First and Fifth Amendment rights. n57 Mandel, a Belgian citizen, sought a non-immigrant visa
from the consulate in Brussels because he had been invited to speak at an event in the U.S. A consulate
officer informed Mandel that he was inadmissible under INA § 212(a)(28), which makes non-citizens who
support communism inadmissible. The Attorney General (AG) had the power to grant a waiver, which he had
done for Mandel on previous occasions. On this occasion, the AG denied Mandel the waiver and thus, his
visa was denied. n58 The plaintiffs claimed that, under the First Amendment, they had a right to "receive
information and ideas." n59 Thus, the court focused on the USCs' rights "to have the alien enter and to hear
him explain and seek to defend his views" and agreed to hear the case. n60
In Mandel, the U.S. Supreme Court engaged in judicial review (although quite limited) by considering
whether the AG's decision to deny the waiver was "facially legitimate and bona fide." The Court found
that the AG's decision was facially legitimate and bona fide because the AG established that Mandel's abuse
of the conditions of his previously granted visas gave the AG reason to deny the waiver on this occasion. n61
Some have argued that Mandel solely stands for the proposition that courts may engage in the review of the
AG's decisions to deny waivers to visa applicants. n62 However, in American Academy of Religion v.
Napolitano, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit stated that Mandel also stands
for the proposition that courts may review consular officers' decisions to deny visas to applicants. n63
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Solvency – Beneficiary Eligibility – First Amendment
The courts can based on the Ramadan decision

Delgado 9 (Tatyana, J.D. Candidate, “THE DOCTRINE OF CONSULAR ABSOLUTISM BEHIND,”


Georgetown Immigration Law Journal, Fall, 24 Geo. Immigr. L.J. 55)
In American Academy, the American Academy of Religion, American Association of University Professors,
the PEN American Center, and Tariq [*64] Ramadan ("Ramadan"), sued the Secretary of the DHS and the
DOS. The plaintiffs claimed that by excluding Ramadan from the U.S., the DHS and DOS violated
their First Amendment rights to "have Ramadan share his views with the organizations and with the
public." n64 Ramadan, a Muslim scholar and Swiss citizen, planned to serve as a professor at the University
of scholar and Swiss citizen, planned to serve as a professor at the University of Notre Dame. In May 2004,
the University of Notre Dame sought an H-1B visa for Ramadan and the visa was granted. Shortly
before the day that Ramadan was scheduled to travel to the U.S., the U.S. Embassy in Bern announced
that his visa had been revoked, but did not provide a reason. n65 Ramadan later filed two additional
applications for non-immigrant visas. n66 In June 2006, the United States District Court for the Southern
District of New York ordered that defendants render a decision regarding the visa application. The
defendants subsequently refused to grant Ramadan a visa based on their belief that "he had provided
material support to a terrorist organization." n67
In December 2007, the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York held that it could
exercise jurisdiction over the plaintiffs' First Amendment claims based on the powers granted to the court in
Article III of the U.S. Constitution. n68 The court also held that the "exclusion of Professor Ramadan is
facially legitimate and bona fide." n69 In July 2009, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second
Circuit also stated that the district court could exercise jurisdiction, based on 28 U.S.C. § 1331 and Mandel.
n70 Yet, the Second Circuit vacated and remanded the lower court's decision. It ordered the lower court to
determine whether the consular officer had informed Ramadan of the allegation that he had provided support
to an organization with links to terrorism and whether Ramadan was given the opportunity to prove that he
lacked knowledge of the organization's ties. n71
In American Academy, the Second Circuit confirmed that when USCs pursue First Amendment claims
related to visa denials by consular officers, the courts may review the decisions of the consular officers.
The Second Circuit referred to Mandel and held that the court's jurisdiction was not limited to the review of
decisions made by the Attorney General. In American Academy, the court stated that,
Since the First Amendment requires at least some judicial review of the discretionary decision of the
Attorney General to waive admissibility, [*65] we see no sound reason to deny similar review to the
decision of a consular officer to deny a visa. It seems counterintuitive to review a cabinet officer's
discretionary decision, but not a consular officer's decision as to statutory ineligibility. n72
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AT: Rollback
No rollback by the congress or public
Lasser 88 (William, Professor of Political Science at Clemson, “The Limits of Judicial Power: The Supreme
Court in American Politics,” p266)
The salient fact, however, is that none of the modern Court's decisions has created a "really clear wave
of public demand" within the electorate or the Congress in favor of reversal; and only Congress or the
electorate can supply sufficient pressure to the Court to make a difference. When the issues decided by
the Court have been sufficiently important to provoke a serious crisis--as on the race question in the 1950s
and early 1960s--the Court's decisions have been supported by a majority of the American people and by a
majority of Congress; or, at a minimum, the country has been so hopelessly divided that a clear expression of
public will has been impossible. When a substantial majority of the people have opposed specific
Supreme Court decisions--as on school prayer or criminal law questions--the issues have not produced
sufficient concern among enough of the electorate or their representatives to create an unmistakable
and irresistible public demand for change. And even on those rare occasions when it appeared,
however briefly, that a really clear wave of public demand would be forthcoming--as in the case of
school busing in 1972 or the national security cases in the late 1950s--other more critical issues quickly
appeared to capture the public's attention and eclipse the Court.

No risk of executive rollback of court decisions


Lasser 88 (William, Professor of Political Science at Clemson, “The Limits of Judicial Power: The Supreme
Court in American Politics,” p266)
If Congress has been unable to summon the will to curb the Court, presidents have been no more
effective. Even those presidents who have had the opportunity to lead an anti-Court campaign have
declined to put the full force of their prestige and authority behind the effort. Despite his opposition to
busing and his support for "law and order," Nixon, for example, did little more than promise to appoint "strict
constructionists" to the Court. Even Ronald Reagan, though extremely outspoken at times in his rhetoric
against the Court, placed the Court issues at the bottom of the agenda for his entire first term and well into
his second, a policy well noted by some of his more conservative critics. In its early years, in fact, his
administration actively opposed some of the most extreme anti-Court measures considered by Congress, and
even Attorney General Meese--whose rhetoric has made him the de facto leader of the anti-Court battle--lent
only sporadic support to specific efforts to curb the Court.

The Public thinks the Congress should follow the Courts even on issues they disagree with –
Incentive for politicians to go along

Fontana 8 (David, associate professor of law at George Washington University Law, , “The Supreme Court:
Missing in Action,” Dissent Magazine, Spring, http://dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1165)
Second, Court decisions do not necessarily create the backlash that many on the left fear. If the Court had
decided cases in favor of rights before the tide had turned against the Bush administration, its decisions might
have elicited formulaic and near-obligatory compliance. There is considerable evidence suggesting a
strong presumption in American public opinion that the Court’s decisions should be widely accepted
and then complied with by the other branches of government. Even when citizens disagree with
Supreme Court decisions, an overwhelming majority of them are loyal to the Court and inclined to
think that the less popular branches of government should fall into line—even when the Court issues
controversial decisions such as Bush v. Gore.
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AT: Rollback

Virtually no risk of congressional rollback – there are substantial limits on legislative


action

Cross 1 (Frank, Professor of Business Law at the McCombs School at Texas , “Strategic Institutional Effects on
Supreme Court Decision Making”,  95 NW. U. L. REV. 1437, Lexis)
A recent book by Keith Krehbiel discusses the difficulties of taking legislative action. n95 The fundamental
thesis of the book is that there are certain "pivot points" in the legislative process that must be overcome.
Because a presidential veto requires a two-thirds vote for an override, actions that are contrary to the
President's ideological preferences require approval by two-thirds of the Congress. Rather than demanding a
majority, such policies require a substantial supermajority. Even when policies are on the President's
ideological side, a supermajority is required by Senate rules. A sixty percent majority is required for cloture
necessary to halt a Senate filibuster. The consequence is that when the status quo policy, in this case a
judicial decision, is within this broad range of congressional preferences, it will not be altered. This,
according to Krehbiel, explains why "gridlock" or stalemate is the "essential reality" of the U.S. government.
n96 Even when the President and Congress are of the same party, bipartisan coalitions tend to be necessary to
pass new laws. Because of the relative difficulty of taking congressional action, the risk of an override
is relatively low. While overrides do sometimes occur, it may be difficult to predict which opinions will be
reversed. The predictability of any override is difficult. Baum notes that the "determinants of
congressional action on an issue are highly complex, and this complexity leads to the notorious
difficulty of predicting that action." n97 The legislative overrides may be "simply the product of the
confluence of randomly occurring factors, each with variable probabilities at different points in time." n98
Even if the justices knew that a certain number of legislative overrides could be expected, they would not
modify their actions unless they could predict which decisions were likely to be overridden. Walter Murphy
observed that judicial deference to congressional preferences should be rare, given the difficulty of
passing legislation, the Court's own prestige, and the risk that a practice of deferring would diminish
that prestige and weaken the Court politically. n99 He also noted that a strategic judiciary would not
establish a reputation of readily deferring to Congress, when such action may prove unnecessary. n100

Congress cannot rollback court decisions – the courts can influence congress

Cross 1 (Frank, Professor of Business Law at the McCombs School at Texas , “Strategic Institutional Effects on
Supreme Court Decision Making”,  95 NW. U. L. REV. 1437, Lexis)
[*1454] Nor are judges themselves without an armament of arguments that may be used to persuade or
lobby Congress. They may engage in "intellectually and emotionally persuasive opinion writing, the creative
use of dicta, public speeches and writings, and personal contact and lobbying, either directly or indirectly
through emissaries." n101 These efforts might be aimed directly at other institutions of government or at
public interest groups, which can themselves influence those institutions. The Court itself has a certain
prestige that presumably carries some weight with the legislature. All these factors mean that the Court need
not be passive and acquiesce in legislative preferences for fear of override. In short, the risk of any
given decision being overridden appears to be quite low and the probabilistic magnitude of that risk
difficult for the Court to assess. Yet the risk is not zero, as we know from Eskridge and others that some
number of Court opinions are in fact overridden. If the probability of any individual opinion being
overridden is relatively small and difficult to predict, a strategic court would generally pay relatively
little heed to the risk. This is especially so insofar as the override simply restores the status quo ante. In this
circumstance, the Court may benefit from ignoring the legislative preference (when no override occurs)
and does not risk any net policy loss from ignoring the preference (when the override simply restores
the decision that a deferential court itself would have made). n102
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Deference to the decision of the court is the norm

Hall and McGuire 6 (Kermit and Kevin, Former University at Albany President, pre-eminent scholar of
American constitutional, legal, and judicial history, and Prof of PoliSci @ UNC Chapel Hill. “Institutions of
American Democracy: The Judicial Branch” Oxford University Press, 109)
What have the Congress and the President done to check or guide the powers of the judiciary?
Congressional and presidential deference to Supreme Court decisions is the norm, even when the
justices decide controversial issues such as the outcome of the 2000 presidential election. Possibly
because the justices simply have seldom impeded a legislative majority for long periods or because the
president and congress respect the rule of law, the public and officials’ support of the Court has
remained substantial, even at times of political conflict. Also, because Congress can avoid political
controversy by drafting ambiguous statutes that encourage litigation and leaving hot-button
controversies such as abortion, racial injustice, and school prayer to the courts, its members can avoid
blame and potential electoral defeat. Thus, acting for its own political advantage, Congress empowers
judges rather than checks judicial interpretations. In these circumstances the judiciary can react by either
legitimating congressional and presidential action or bearing the blame for unpopular political choices
and choices made when the president and Congress cannot reach a compromise.

The court can be its own independent policymaker in the face of contrary executive desires
Hall and McGuire 6 (Kermit and Kevin, Former University at Albany President, pre-eminent scholar of
American constitutional, legal, and judicial history, and Prof of PoliSci @ UNC Chapel Hill. “Institutions of
American Democracy: The Judicial Branch” Oxford University Press, 112)
The U.S. Supreme Court justices’ interpretations nonetheless have bounded some exercises of
congressional and Presidential power. They have diminished the threat of governmental tyranny when
politically weakened presidents claimed prerogative or when legislation from a divided or irresolute
Congress contradicted the constitutional text. These actions have tended to occur when the national
political leadership is unpopular, such as with the Watergate tapes case, national leaders have adopted
policy positions at variance with majority or elite sentiments, as with Truman’s seizure of the steel mills, or
the national leadership is locked in controversies that require immediate resolution but with no easy
political solution, as with spiraling budget deficits. Also, by acting to empower minorities and women, the
judiciary has abetted the broadening of the constituencies that offer political support to Congress, the
president, and state officeholders. It has thus further democratized political debate about the
performance of these institutions. Of course, in some intractable political conflicts among the branches
that threaten the stability of the regime, the judiciary has acted as an independent policy maker.
Separated powers and checks and balances thus works – sometimes – to ensure that American
government responds to the people.
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rulings out obeisance.
Paulsen 94, law professor at the University of Minnesota
(Michael Stokes, “Protestantism and Comparative Competence: A Reply to Professors Levinson and Eisgruber,”
Georgetown Law Journal, 83 Geo. L.J. 385, December, Lexis)
Eisgruber, of course, is making less a textual argument than a structural one. Again, however, the
structural point of Marbury is that separation-of-powers means not having to kowtow to the views of
another branch. John Marshall never said that courts are better at interpreting the Constitution than
Congress is; he said only that courts have as much right to interpret the Constitution as Congress does
and to exercise that right independently [*391] by virtue of their independent status. And again, the
point about the task of legal interpretation is that it is not a specifically enumerated, unique function of
any one branch but is something that all branches do, incidental to their designated powers. The specialized
function of courts is not law-interpretation, but deciding cases. Interpretation is not a specialized task of
one branch, but something that overlaps the functions of all three branches. It is a shared power. The need
for separate branches to accommodate their views to each other in order to form a working
government may suggest, as I have argued, a principle of deference in the sense of due consideration of
the views of others; but it is hard to find in the mere fact that the Constitution divides tasks among
branches a rule of strict Eisgruberian deference -- a better word might be obeisance -- to the
interpretations of those who perform the judicial task.
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A supreme court ruling on immigration to discredit the plenary powers doctrine is critical
to the effectiveness of international law
Saito 2 (Natsu Taylor, Professor of Law, Georgia State University College of Law, “The Plenary Power Doctrine:
Subverting Human Rights in the Name of Sovereignty”, 51 Cath. U. L. Rev. 1115, p. lexis)
The United States is frequently criticized for its reluctance to ratify  human rights agreements or to
accept the jurisdiction of international decision-making bodies. n9 However--with the exception of a few voices, such as
that of Senator Jesse Helms--the U.S. government does not generally justify its actions with the argument that sovereignty permits the violation of
basic human rights. n10 Instead, it typically responds that it does not need to bind itself to international human rights instruments because the U.S. legal
The United States' failure to comply with the
system provides not only full justice but more protection than international law. n11
most fundamental tenets of international law with respect to many people and peoples under its
jurisdiction is not merely a result of its failure to ratify  human rights conventions or participate in
international institutions. Even when the United States becomes a party to multilateral treaties or
acknowledges relevant customary law, U.S. courts frequently refuse to enforce international law,
particularly when it is violated by congressional or executive action. Instead of recognizing that
domestic courts are the most important forum for the enforcement of international
law n12 or  [*1118]  taking seriously the Constitution's mandate that treaties are part of the supreme
law of the land, n13 federal courts have created a vast array of judicial doctrines that render
international law nearly meaningless within U.S. jurisprudence . These self-imposed judicial limitations include the
declaration of some treaties or treaty provisions as "non-self-executing" and the consequent refusal to enforce them in the absence of enabling
legislation; n14 the "last-in-time" rule under which later-enacted federal laws are enforced even if they put the United States squarely in violation of its
treaty obligations; n15 the "political question doctrine" under which certain issues are declared "non-justiciable" because they address subjects delegated to
Congress or the Executive; n16 the "act of state"doctrine under which courts refrain from judging the actions of other sovereigns, n17 and the refusal to
allow prosecution of actions against the U.S. government on grounds of sovereign immunity . n18 The combined effect of
these doctrines is that U.S. courts are not effective fora for the redress of violations of
international  [*1119]  law; thus, the United States violates a fundamental principle of customary
international law, articulated in Article 27 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that a
"party may not invoke the provisions of its internal law as justification for its failure to perform a
treaty." n19 There is, in addition, another extremely important judicially created rationale for the courts' failure to enforce basic human rights, one that
is almost always overlooked in assessments of U.S. compliance with international law. This is the doctrine that both Congress and the Executive have
"plenary power" over large groups of people subject to U.S. law. n20 "Plenary" means full or complete, and the doctrine as applied means that U.S. courts,
rather than assessing governmental actions under the usual constitutional standards, defer to the "political" branches of government. n21 The plenary
power doctrine is explicitly justified as an exercise of sovereignty either because those against whom it is used are subjects
of another sovereign or because the United States' national security or foreign policy objectives are at stake. n22 Thus, the plenary
power doctrine is essential to U.S. jurisprudence relating to American Indian nations, n23 immigrants, n24 and
colonized territories such as Puerto  [*1120]  Rico and Guam. n25 Plenary authority is also exercised over persons in the military and in prison. n26A
cursory look at the common roots, functioning, and purposes of the doctrine in U.S. immigration, Indian, and colonial law reveals significant human
rights problems. For example, the plenary power doctrine is the legal rationale for allowing the federal government control over indigenous peoples through
its exercise of "trust" authority, by which American Indian nations are robbed of their resources and rendered the poorest sector of the country; n27 for
detaining and arbitrarily deporting noncitizens, most recently thousands of young men of Middle Eastern origin not accused of any crime; n28 for
sanctioning the ongoing bombing of the island of Vieques; and for continuing to refuse to allow Puerto Ricans a binding vote on their relationship with the
United States. n29 Nothing in the Constitution explicitly gives the federal government such power. Explanations and justifications of the exercise of plenary
power are confused and sometimes contradictory, but they boil down to  [*1121]  the notion that it is an extraconstitutional power inherent in sovereignty,
which the U.S. government acquired upon becoming a recognized state. n30 Thus, the theory goes, the government's powers are limited by the Constitution
with respect to domestic policy--its relations with its political subdivisions and its citizens--but unrestrained in its dealings with outsiders or its control over
its domestic population in the context of defending against outside threats. n31 Are there no limits on the exercise of this power? Justifications for
the doctrine invoke the need to deal effectively with other sovereigns, so one would suppose that its exercise is limited by the response of other sovereigns
and, presumably, by the international law that governs relations between sovereigns. But, in fact, plenary power is used against those over whom the United
States exercises essentially complete control, in situations in which the United States neither respects their sovereignty nor extends the usual protections of
domestic or international law. The
harsh consequences of the plenary power doctrine are generally ignored or
dismissed as aberrations. n32 Examination of the plenary power doctrine as a whole, however, reveals
that it is not an exception to a general rule of conformity with human rights law but a systematic denial
of both domestic and international protections to those who most need them. As noted above, the United States
justifies its failure to incorporate international law more specifically by arguing that domestic law provides more protection of basic human
under the guise of the plenary power doctrine, the courts not only refuse to apply the
rights. n33 However,
basic protections "guaranteed" by the Constitution, but they also refuse to apply international law,
leaving the basic rights of immigrants, American  [*1122]  Indians, residents of U.S. "territories," and other sectors of the American population
essentially unprotected by anything except the goodwill of Congress. n34 The jurisprudential rationale for the plenary power doctrine is the United
States' sovereignty, and thus the United States has, in effect, returned to the premise it explicitly rejected at Nuremberg: the most fundamental human
rights acknowledged in international law can be overridden by domestic law.
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International law solves extinction

Damrosch and Mullerson 95 (Professor of Law, Columbia, Professor of International Law, King’s, Beyond
Confrontation, International Law for the Post Cold War Era, p. 2-3)
The contemporary world has an ever-increasing need for an international legal system that can
respond to the demands of our time. Of the many reasons for this fact, we will survey only a few of the most salient. First and foremost is
the increasing interdependence of all peoples. Even as the world is riven with many contradictions and conflicts, it is also becoming more integrated with a
greater need for orderly, predictable conduct. Events, and especially natural and social disasters, even when they occur within a single country, have more
noticeable effects on conditions in the world at large. The Chernobyl accident, the earthquake in Armenia, and even internal political processes underway in
the territories of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe -- these and many other events occurring within separate countries or regions have a global
significance affecting the destiny of all peoples. The intertwining of the economic life of diverse countries today is even greater than was the
Order and predictability of the behavior of
interdependence of different regions within the same state only half a century ago.
actors on the international scene can be achieved first of all with the aid of social norms, among
which international law occupies an important place. A second reason for the growth of the role of international law is
inextricably connected with the first. The threats of a thermonuclear catastrophe, universal ecological crisis, and
acute economic problems in developing countries are of global concern and endanger the very
existence of humanity. Resolution of these problems demands coordinated efforts of all  states and
peoples, which would be impossible to achieve without the aid of international norms, procedures, and
institutions. A third reason is the breathtaking political transformations of recent years. The changes that began in 1985 in the former Soviet Union
and were unleashed in Eastern Europe have radically transformed the map of the world. Although it is impossible to give a final evaluation of the character
and significance of these changes at the present time, it is possible to conclude that the fundamental global contradiction of the Cold War era -- the
contradiction between socialism and capitalism, which to a great extent determined not only the general climate in the world but also the role and
significance of international law in it -- has been overcome. In the Charter of Paris for a New Europe, 32 countries of Europe, together with
the United States and Canada, affirmed that "the era of confrontation and division of Europe has ended." 1 The end has come not only for division in
Europe, but also in the world at large.
But this fact can hardly lead automatically to a non-contradictory, stable
world order. The acuteness of conflicts that are not con- nected with the so-called "fundamental
contradiction of the epoch" can even intensify, as the unleashing of savage interethnic conflict in the
former Yugoslavia and the former Soviet Union amply demonstrates. Nonetheless, it is precisely the
cooperation between former ideological and political adversaries that can serve as the prerequisite and
condition for the resolution of many problems and conflicts. A vivid example may be found in the reaction of world society
to the aggression of Iraq against Kuwait and the reining in of the aggressor with the aid of U.N. mechanisms in accordance with the U.N. Charter and other
norms of international law.
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Court decisions don’t affect elections

Gates 99 (John, Teaches Political Science at UC Davis, The Supreme Court in American Politics, p105)
The literature's concern with the important power of judicial review and realignments neglects a third
important role for the Supreme Court and partisan change: diffusing partisan conflict by upholding
legislation or Court precedent in less dramatic elections. This much more subtle type of issue formation or
diffusion is nonetheless important to the course of national policy making and can be seen in the months
preceding the 1992 presidential election. The Supreme Court upheld state policies making abortion
services more difficult, such as a twenty-four-hour waiting period between the signing of the surgery
consent form and the performance of an abortion a position consistently struck down in the 1980s (Hinkson-
Craig and O'Brien 1993). At the same time, the five-justice majority struck down the spousal notification
provision of the Pennsylvania law and announced that Roe v. Wade (1973) continues to be good law and
worthy of Supreme Court respect. This is of no minor consequence as groups and the executive branch
called for the overturn of Roe.
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No backlash on democrats – Supreme Court is mostly Republican appointees.

Perine 8 (Katherine, Staff at CQ Politics, “Congress Unlikely to Try to Cover Supreme Court Detainee Ruling,”
CQ Politics, June 12, http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002896528&cpage=2)
Thursday’s decision, from a Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees, gives Democrats
further cover against GOP sniping.
“This is something that the court has decided, and very often the court gives political cover to
Congress,” said Ross K. Baker, a Rutgers Universitiy political science professor. “You can simply point to
a Supreme Court decision and say, ‘The devil made me do it.’ ”
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The court is seen as apolitical – no spillover to everyday politics

Baird and Gangl 6 (Vanessa and Amy, Professors of Political Science, “Shattering the Myth of Legality: The
Impact of the Media’s Framing of Supreme Court Procedures on Perceptions of Fairness” Political Psychology, Vol.
27, pg 597)
The tendency of the media to depict the Supreme Court as inherently apolitical, some scholars argue, is
part of the reason that many believe in the “myth of legality” in which the Court is perceived to operate
above the ideological skirmishes of everyday politics. Our experimental analyses show that citizens react
more negatively to press reports of a politically motivated Court than they do to coverage portraying a Court
that strictly follows legal guidelines. Interestingly, our results also suggest that it is not so much the
perceived absence of political wrangling among justices but rather it is the presence of legal guidelines
driving the outcome that is the source of the perception of fairness.

Court politics aren’t perceived by the public

Smith 93 (Christopher, Associate Professor of Criminal Justice, Michigan State University, Courts, Politics and
the Judicial Process, p1)
What images come to mind when Americans hear the words "government" and "politics"? Politicians making
campaign speeches ... Legislators debating controversial public policies ... The president being followed by
reporters, microphones, and television cameras. It is unlikely, however, that many people immediately
visualize black-robed judges presiding over solemn, ornate courtrooms. Yet, the judicial system constitutes
one of the three branches of government. In the United States Constitution, after Article I describes the
structure and powers of the legislative branch and Article II describes the president's authority, Article III
establishes the Supreme Court and describes the jurisdiction of the judicial branch. Although the courts are
a component of government, generally accepted beliefs about the proper role and behavior of judicial
actors differ from expectations about the actions and motivations of officials in the other branches of
government. For example, when legal commentators speak about "the independence of the judiciary from
the political branches [of government],"' they are clearly identifying the courts as different from the other
branches. Unlike the judicial branch, the legislative and executive branches are recognized as
"political" in nature! Justice Felix Frankfurter echoed this theme when he warned that the judicial system
should be kept separate from political issues and institutions: "It is hostile to a democratic system to involve
the judiciary in the politics of the people."' When Americans discuss the court system, they convey the image
of a governmental branch which, by its very nature, is distinctively different from other components of
government. Courts are unique among government institutions because of their association in the
public mind with law rather than politics.

And, the court gets political cover on issues that other agencies don’t want to rule on

Rosenberg 91 (Gerald, Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, The Hollow Hope:
Can Courts Bring About Social Change? p285)
Similarly, courts have provided both leverage and cover for committee agency officials. In battles over
priorities and resources, courts can serve the "gorilla in the closet" that enhances the argument of the
side the decisions support (Wenner, forthcoming). In addition to this kind of leverage, courts have been
effective where administrators were willing to act but felt the need for political cover. Department of
Transportation Secretary Volpe, for example, had demonstrated concern for the environment before the
enactment of NEPA. After enactment, however, he would sometimes "rely on the courts to order a project
modified or halted [that he wanted modified or halted]. He would then be able to lay on others
responsibility for 'meddling' with the project" (Liroff 1976, 127). In other words, when administrators
wanted to make pro-environment decisions, courts could help.
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The court has political cover

O’Brien 3 (David, Professor of Government and Foreign Affairs at the University of Virginia, Storm Center: The
Supreme Court in American Politics, Sixth Edition, p337-338)
Public opinion serves to curb the Court when it threatens to go too far or too fast in its rulings. The
Court has usually been in step with major political movements, except during transitional periods or
critical elections .47 It would nevertheless be wrong to conclude, along with Finley Peter Dunne's fictional
Mr. Dooley, that "th' supreme court follows th' iliction returns ."48 To be sure, the battle over FDR's
"Court-packing" plan and the Court's "switch in time that saved nine" in 1937 give that impression.
Public opinion supported the New Deal, but after his landslide reelection in 1936, turned against FDR
when he proposed to "pack the Court" by increasing its size from nine to fifteen. In a series of five-to-four
and six-to-three decisions in 1935-1936, the Court had struck down virtually every important measure
of FDR's New Deal program. But in the spring of 1937, while the Senate Judiciary Committee
considered FDR's proposal, the Court abruptly handed down three five-to-four rulings upholding
major pieces of New Deal legislation. Shortly afterward, FDR's close personal friend and soon-to-be
nominee for the Court, Felix Frankfurter, wrote justice Stone confessing that he was "not wholly happy in
thinking that Mr. Dooley should, in the course of history turn out to have been one of the most distinguished
legal philosophers ."49 Frankfurter, of course, knew that justices do not simply follow the election returns.
The fact that the Court abandoned its opposition to the New Deal when it did, moreover, significantly
undercut public support for FDR's Court-packing plan. Gallup polls taken during the spring of 1937 reveal
that the Court's switch-in-time influenced the shift in public opinion away from support for FDR's
proposed reforms. In this instance at least, as political scientist Gregory Caldeira concludes, the Court
"outmaneuvered the president" and by retreating from its defense of conservative economic policy shaped
public opinion in favor of preserving its institutional integrity. However, as noted in Chapter Two, the
"switch in time that saved nine," the actual vote to uphold New Deal legislation, took place in conference in
December i936, prior to FDR's introduction of his Courtpacking proposal. But, the publication of its opinions
upholding progressive legislation in spring 1937 was, to be sure, timely and influential.
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The counterplan is key to compliance with international law

Laplante 99, Visiting Assistant Professor of Law at Marquette University


(Lisa, “EXPEDITED REMOVAL AT U.S. BORDERS: A WORLD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION NAME,”
New York University School of Law Review of Law and Social Change 1999 25 N.Y.U. Rev. L. & Soc. Change
213, l/n)
The international rights movement has revealed the reluctance of the United States government to
recognize international human rights despite expecting other nations to do so. n209 The International
Bill of Rights and other sources of international law prove useless in protecting the interests of foreign
nationals if Congress ignores or purposefully circumvents them. n210 The fact that the United States often
falls short of its political accountability to the international community presents a great challenge to
applying international law principles that encourage reform of the plenary power doctrine. As a
member of the world community, the United States [*256] supposedly holds itself to international law, yet,
its immigration policy flagrantly disregards many international treaties and customs. n211 In fact, the
Chinese Exclusion Act Cases, discussed above, violated a treaty between the United States and China. n212
Although treaties enjoy the status as "supreme law of the land" n213, the national legislature is not bound to
comply with its obligations under international law until it has enacted legislation to trigger the treaty. In
other words, international treaties are not self-executing in the United States system of law. n214 However,
an important rule of construction interprets statutes, to the extent possible, to be consistent with treaties. n215
Despite this theoretical alignment, in practice "immigration policy makers have become [*257]
increasingly indifferent to international obligations, disingenuously misconstrued international norms,
and paid undeserved deference to the law-breaking conduct of a coordinate branch." n216
Even when the United States passes an act to implement an international treaty, such as with the Refugee Act
of 1980, n217 it manages to avoid its obligations, even disregarding fundamental norms such as non-
refoulement (non-return): n218
The United States has taken a narrow, some would say hyper technical, view of its international
obligation in order to forestall mass attempts at immigration. Through aggressive interdiction at sea, the
use of "safe havens," and the deferential review of its actions by federal courts, the United States has avoided
the spirit, if not the letter of nonrefoulement." n219
This underhanded approach can be seen in the case involving interdiction of Haitian refugees on the high
seas. n220 The Sales decision permitted a narrow and contrived reading of the Refugee Protocol to put the
best face on a bad policy, by creating a pretense that it is not, contrary to all appearances, in breach of
international law. On the other hand specious interpretation of international agreements has become rather a
bad habit for the present-day Court. n221
[*258]
When dealing with foreign nationals in exclusion proceedings, adherence to international norms by the
United States falls short of compliance. In fact, the new expedited procedure raises new issues of non-
compliance with the Refugee Protocol. n222 In the specific case of the expedited removal procedure, foreign
nationals with liberty and property interests are often denied the basic due process rights championed by
these international treaties. If an INS inspection officer misunderstands or overlooks a foreign national's valid
entitlement to enter, the victim of this error has no opportunity to correct such mistakes before a fair and
impartial judge. Yet, the adjustment that it would take to follow international norms would require the same
effort that it would take to follow the U.S. Constitution. The basic due process rights listed in international
treaties, as shown above, mirror those enumerated in the Fifth Amendment. The challenge is to push the
Supreme Court to overcome its stubborn reluctance to universalize its own constitutional rights by
interpreting "all persons" to include foreign nationals.
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Plenary powers are on the brink – the counterplan is key to shattering the doctrine

Spiro 2 (Peter, Professor, Hofstra Law School, “Explaining the End of Plenary Power,” Georgetown Immigration
Law Journal, November 17,http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=300575
That may now finally change. Two decisions from the 2000 Term, Nguyen v. INS1 and Zadvydas v.
Davis,2 point the way to the abandonment of plenary power. Although as a formal matter neither
expanded the quantum of constitutionally-mandated rights owed aliens in immigration proceedings, the
decisions strongly suggest such an expansion. Nguyen upheld the Nationality Act’s discrimination against
American citizen fathers and their out-of-wedlock children (as opposed to citizen mothers and theirs), but it
did so under an ostensibly undifferentiated standard; that is, the Court purported to apply the same equal
protection standard that it would in any other context. Although framed as an exercise in statutory
interpretation, Zadvydas went further, casting serious constitutional doubt on the indefinite detention of
removable aliens. The decisions are as much significant for what they don’t say as what they do. Absent are
rote invocations of plenary power precedents; indeed, both opinions refused to pass on the doctrine’s
continuing validity.
This posture, to be sure, does not preclude the retrenchment of plenary power. I think such
retrenchment unlikely, however. It may be a bit premature to enter a tombstone date on plenary power,
but the grave has been dug. Here one must consider explanations for the Court’s apparent retreat from
plenary power now rather than at any other point of time. The turn cannot be explained by any change in
constitutional discourse, for the doctrine has long been relegated to a sort of constitutional hall of shame. 3
However one might try to peg it to recent trends towards greater popular acceptance of immigration and of
aliens, plenary power has in the past survived the cycles of welcome and animosity. Nor can it be portrayed
as an element in other jurisprudential trends relating to constitutional rights, for such rights as recognized by
the courts are, if anything shrinking. In other words, no constitutional tide is buoying immigration cases with
it. Finally, although the demise of plenary power is consistent with the Court’s recent insistence in other
contexts that it get the last institutional word in constitutional interpretation, there is no evidence that
the retreat from immigration exceptionalism is driven by the credo of judicial supremacy.
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Ending the plenary powers doctrines allows for the successful implementation of internal
self-determination strategies

Saito 2 (Natsu Taylor, Professor of Law, Georgia State University College of Law, “The Plenary Power Doctrine:
Subverting Human Rights in the Name of Sovereignty”, 51 Cath. U. L. Rev. 1115, p. lexis)
Under the rubric of exercising its "plenary power" over American Indian nations, a power said to derive
from its existence as a sovereign nation, the United States has denied to the Indians within its borders
their right to self-determination as acknowledged by international law; to basic human rights guaranteed
all persons under international law; and to protections mandated by the Constitution. First, it must be noted
that the United States has violated the terms of every one of the approximately eight hundred treaties,
ratified and unratified, that it imposed upon Indian nations; yet, it continues to use those treaties to
justify its occupation of Indian lands. n189 Bringing "federal Indian law" into compliance with
international law would first require enforcing the treaties that exist between the United States and Indian
nations and interpreting them in accordance with customary international law and the principles
articulated in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. n190 As Siegfried Wiessner stated:
The fact that treaties with Indian nations can be abrogated under Lone Wolf does not stand in the way of their
characterization as obligations under international law. . . . Traditional international law scholarship, applied
in intellectual honesty, would have a hard time denying commitments arising from U.S.-Indian treaties the
effect of international legal obligations. n191
Weissner concluded that these treaties are still enforceable under international law, particularly in light of the
1975 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice on the status of the Western Sahara,
which  [*1146]  confirmed the "international legal effect of agreements between indigenous [peoples] . . . and
clearly recognized sovereign states." n192 Weissner also noted that the treaties must be interpreted in
accordance with the provisions of the Vienna Convention, which differs significantly from U.S. domestic law
interpreting treaties with Indian nations and means that judicially-created doctrines cannot be invoked to
avoid their enforcement. n193
Instead of interpreting treaties in accordance with the provisions of the Vienna Convention, courts continue
to invoke the plenary power doctrine as justification for ongoing violations of those treaties and for
treatment that violates customary international law as well as numerous human rights treaties to
which the United States is a party. n194 American Indians within the United States today are subject
to all of the laws governing U.S. citizens and to several thousand additional statutes.  n195 This system
of federal law imposes a "quasi-sovereign" status on Indian nations and subjects them to the
"trusteeship" of the U.S. government. As Robert Clinton states, "vestiges of the law's historic colonial role
in legitimating conquest and expropriation remain imbedded in the doctrines employed today allegedly to
protect Indian interests." n196

External self-determination makes all of their impacts inevitable


Gottlieb, 1993, Leo Spitz Professor of International Law and Diplomacy – University of Chicago,
Gidon, Nation Against State, p. 26-27
Self-determination unleashed and unchecked by balancing principles constitutes a menace to the soceity of
states. There is simply no way in which all the hundreds of peoples who aspire to sovereign
independence can be granted a state of their own without loosening fearful anarchy and disorder on a
planetary scale. The proliferation of territorial entitites poses exponentially greater porblems for the
control of weapons of mass destruction and multiple situations in which external intervention could
threaten peace. It increases problems fro the management of all global issues, including terrorism,
AIDS, the environment, and population growth. It creates conditions in which domestic strife in
remove territories can drag powerful neighbors into local hostilities, creating widening circles of
conflict.
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Checking plenary powers is key to restricting the president’s warmaking ability

Schultz 6 (David, Graduate School of Management at Hamline University, “THE POWERS OF WAR AND
PEACE: THE CONSTITUTION AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS AFTER 9/11,” Vol. 16 No.1 (January 2006), pp.102-
105, by John C. Yoo.  http://www.bsos.umd.edu/gvpt/lpbr/subpages/reviews/yoo0106.htm)
How do the arguments of THE POWERS OF WAR AND PEACE compare to those of the Memorandum?
There are subtle differences, even if they reach the same overall conclusions about presidential power.  First,
Yoo remains consistent in arguing that the Constitution, history, and practice all endorse preeminence of
presidential power in foreign affairs and national security issues, leaving Congress only the powers of
the purse and de-authorizing the military if it wishes to check the executive branch.  The book is also clearer
in stating that the judiciary should have no role in foreign affairs, viewing such issues as political questions. 
However, some of the arguments endorsing presidential power are expounded upon and changed.
For one, while the Memorandum stressed the intent of the framers in exclusively conveying foreign policy
power upon the president, the book shifts the argument.  It looks not to what the original intent of the framers
was but to the original understanding of ratifiers and those who read the Constitution.  Specifically, in the
first four chapters, Yoo draws heavily upon Blackstone and British experiences and writings to support the
claim that the ratifiers of the Constitution—including the members of the various state legislators as well as
the Federalists and Anti-Federalists—all understood that foreign policy authority was exclusively [*104] an
executive function.  He also argues that when war making and foreign policy power shifted to Congress
under the Article of Confederation, this was not a diversion of these functions to the legislative branch
because this body was essentially an executive body.  In addition, Yoo relies upon colonial and post-
independence state constitutions to support his contention that foreign affairs are exclusively executive.
What we are left with under the Constitution of 1787 is a document that was understood as vesting
plenary power in the president to act in foreign affairs and which did not make his ability to wage war
contingent upon formal declarations of Congress.  It is also a Constitution, for Yoo, that does not
establish a fixed process for foreign policy decision making, but leaves it open to the “contemporary
demands of the international system at the time and the relative position of the different branches”
( p.8).  Given the somewhat open texture here, this sets the stage for Yoo to argue that the war on
terrorism is a new type of conflict that demands more rapid response than in the past.   In terms of
what this means for the presidency, it includes vesting in him sole authority to make, interpret, and
suspend treaties, including the Convention Against Torture and the Geneva Convention Relative to the
Treatment of Prisoners of War, and to deploy troops.
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Unfettered presidential powers cause nuclear war
Forrester, 89 (Ray Professor, Hastings College of the Law, University of California August, The George
Washington Law Review 57 Geo. Wash. L. Rev. 1636 “Presidential Wars in the Nuclear Age: An Unresolved
Problem.” ) Abramson, Wherever President Goes, the Nuclear War 'Football' is Beside Him, Los Angeles Times,
April 3, 1981, at 10, col. 1
On the basis of this report, the startling fact is that one man alone has the ability to start a nuclear war. A
basic theory--if not the basic theory of our Constitution--is that concentration of power in any one person,
or one group, is dangerous to mankind. The Constitution, therefore, contains a strong system of checks
and balances, starting with the separation of powers between the President, Congress, and the
Supreme Court. The message is that no one of them is safe with unchecked power. Yet, in what is probably the most dangerous governmental power ever possessed, we
find the potential for world destruction lodged in the discretion of one person. As a result of public indignation aroused by the Vietnam disaster, in which tens of thousands lost their
lives in military actions initiated by a succession of Presidents, Congress in 1973 adopted, despite presidential veto, the War Powers Resolution. Congress finally asserted its checking
and balancing duties in relation to the making of presidential wars. Congress declared in section 2(a) that its purpose was to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the
United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations. The law also
stated in section 3 that [t]he President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations where
imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated. . . . Other limitations not essential to this discussion are also provided. The intent of the law is clear. Congress undertook to
check the President, at least by prior consultation, in any executive action that might lead to hostilities and war.  [*1638]  President Nixon, who initially vetoed the resolution, claimed
that it was an unconstitutional restriction on his powers as Executive and Commander in Chief of the military. His successors have taken a similar view. Even so, some of them have
at times complied with the law by prior consultation with representatives of Congress, but obedience to the law has been uncertain and a subject of continuing controversy between
Ordinarily, the issue of the constitutionality of a law would be decided by the Supreme
Congress and the President.
Court. But, despite a series of cases in which such a decision has been sought, the Supreme Court has
refused to settle the controversy. The usual ground for such a refusal is that a "political question" is involved. The rule is well
established that the federal judiciary will decide only "justiciable" controversies. "Political questions" are not "justiciable." However, the
standards established by the Supreme Court in 1962 in Baker v. Carr, 369 U.S. 186, to determine the distinction between "justiciable
controversies" and "political questions" are far from clear. One writer observed that the term "political question" [a]pplies to all those
matters of which the court, at a given time, will be of the opinion that it is impolitic or inexpedient to take jurisdiction. Sometimes this
idea of inexpediency will result from the fear of the vastness of the consequences that a decision on the merits might entail.
Finkelstein, Judicial Self-Limitation, 37 HARV. L. REV. 338, 344 (1924)(footnote omitted). It is difficult to defend the
Court's refusal to assume the responsibility of decisionmaking on this most critical issue. The Court has
been fearless in deciding other issues of "vast consequences" in many historic disputes, some involving executive war power. It is to be
hoped that the Justices will finally do their duty here. But in the meantime the spectre of single-minded power
persists, fraught with all of the frailties of human nature that each human possesses, including the
President. World history is filled with tragic examples. Even if the Court assumed its responsibility to tell us whether the Constitution gives
Congress the necessary power to check the President, the War Powers Resolution itself is unclear. Does the Resolution require the President to consult with Congress before
launching a nuclear attack? It has been asserted that "introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities" refers only to military personnel and does not include the launching of
nuclear missiles alone. In support of this interpretation, it has been argued that Congress was concerned about the human losses in Vietnam and in other presidential wars, rather than
about the weaponry. Congress, of course, can amend the Resolution to state explicitly that "the introduction of Armed Forces" includes missiles as well as personnel. However, the
President could continue to act without prior consultation by renewing the claim first made by President  [*1639]  Nixon that the Resolution is an unconstitutional invasion of the
executive power. Therefore, the real solution, in the absence of a Supreme Court decision, would appear to be a constitutional amendment. All must obey a clear rule in the
Constitution. The adoption of an amendment is very difficult. Wisely, Article V requires that an amendment may be proposed only by the vote of two-thirds of both houses of
Congress or by the application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states, and the proposal must be ratified by the legislatures or conventions of three-fourths of the states. Despite
the difficulty, the Constitution has been amended twenty-six times. Amendment can be done when a problem is so important that it arouses the attention and concern of a
preponderant majority of the American people. But the people must be made aware of the problem. It is hardly necessary to belabor the relative importance of the control of nuclear
warfare. A constitutional amendment may be, indeed, the appropriate method. But the most difficult issue remains. What should the amendment provide? How can the problem be
solved specifically? The Constitution in section 8 of Article I stipulates that "[t]he Congress shall have power . . . To declare War. . . ." The idea seems to be that only these many
representatives of the people, reflecting the public will, should possess the power to commit the lives and the fortunes of the nation to warfare. This approach makes much more sense
in a democratic republic than entrusting the decision to one person, even though he may be designated the "Commander in Chief" of the military forces. His power is to command the
There is a recurring relevation
war after the people, through their representatives, have made the basic choice to submit themselves and their children to war.
of a paranoia of power throughout human history that has impelled one leader after another to draw
their people into wars which, in hindsight, were foolish, unnecessary, and, in some instances,
downright insane. Whatever may be the psychological influences that drive the single decisionmaker to
these irrational commitments of the lives and fortunes of others, the fact remains that the behavior is a
predictable one in any government that does not provide an effective check and balance against
uncontrolled power in the hands of one human. We, naturally, like to think that our leaders are above such irrational
behavior. Eventually, however, human nature, with all its weakness, asserts itself whatever the setting. At least that is the evidence that
experience and history give us, even in our own relatively benign society, where the Executive is subject to the rule of
law.  [*1640]  Vietnam and other more recent engagements show that it can happen and has happened here. But the "nuclear football"--
the ominous "black bag" --remains in the sole possession of the President. And, most important, his decision to launch a
nuclear missile would be, in fact if not in law, a declaration of nuclear war, one which the nation and,
indeed, humanity in general, probably would be unable to survive.
Plenary Powers Bad – Separation of Powers
Judicial review over immigration policy is key to separation of poers
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Lee 2005, associate in Litigation, Antitrust, and Federal-State Programs practice groups,


Covington & Burling lawfirm
 (Anne, “The Unfettered Executive: Is There an Inherent Presidential Power to Exclude Aliens?,” 39 Colum. J.L. &
Soc. Probs. 223, Lexis)
Blending elements of both domestic and foreign policy considerations, the power to exclude aliens from
entering the country poses challenges and difficulties not found in other legal areas. Immigration
regulations force courts to think hard about the legal basis for their decisions and grapple with difficult moral
considerations about the right to migrate freely and the right to enter into a country, as well as the economic
and social ramifications of such decisions. This Note has sought to highlight the importance of
understanding the topic of alien exclusion, and has argued that the latent theory of inherent
presidential authority to regulate immigration admission should be rejected. The President’s
immigration authority is a derivative one that requires delegation by Congress, following debate and
policy considerations. This Note provides evidence that the power to regulate admission has historically
rested primarily within the legislative branch and has existed in a shared capacity between the President and
Congress. Moreover, this Note warns against the ten dency to frame the immigration power as a
foreign relations power, and thus classify it among those inherent, plenary, presidential powers. In
hopes of maintaining the necessary separation of powers, the courts should continue to review
executive actions in this field to ensure compliance with statutory authority.

SOP is key to hegemony

Ikenberry 1 (John, Professor of Politics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and
International Affairs at Princeton, Spring, The National Interest, http://www.dni.gov/nic/confreports_stratreact.html)
First, America's mature political institutions organized around the rule of law have made it a relatively
predictable and cooperative hegemon. The pluralistic and regularized way in which U.S. foreign and
security policy is made reduces surprises and allows other states to build long-term, mutually
beneficial relations. The governmental separation of powers creates a shared decision-making system
that opens up the process and reduces the ability of any one leader to make abrupt or aggressive moves
toward other states. An active press and competitive party system also provide a service to outside states by
generating information about U.S. policy and determining its seriousness of purpose. The messiness of a
democracy can, indeed, frustrate American diplomats and confuse foreign observers. But over the long term,
democratic institutions produce more consistent and credible policies--policies that do not reflect the
capricious and idiosyncratic whims of an autocrat. Think of the United States as a giant corporation that
seeks foreign investors. It is more likely to attract investors if it can demonstrate that it operates according to
accepted accounting and fiduciary principles. The rule of law and the institutions of policymaking in a
democracy are the political equivalent of corporate transparency and accountability. Sharp shifts in
policy must ultimately be vetted within the policy process and pass muster by an array of investigatory
and decision-making bodies. Because it is a constitutional, rule-based democracy, outside states are more
willing to work with the United States--or, to return to the corporate metaphor, to invest in ongoing
partnerships.
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AT: Plenary Powers Good – Terrorism
The courts can rule against plenary powers without undermining national security
measures

Spiro 2 (Peter, Professor, Hofstra Law School, “Explaining the End of Plenary Power,” Georgetown Immigration
Law Journal, November 17,http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=300575
But plenary power could be shelved altogether without putting the courts in the possibly untenable
position of nullifying special security regimes. It is perhaps improbable that the courts would strike
down the alien terrorist removal procedures as inconsistent with due process protections, at least not
now. The sense of threat and the risk of undermining the Court’s institutional legitimacy are too great. But
that does not preclude the Court from applying ordinary principles of judicial review even where
terrorism is implicated. The fact is that most of the regime now in place for the removal of alleged terrorists
could pass constitutional muster under non-exceptional analyses. In other words, the Court could approach
constitutional challenges to the removal of terrorists with its usual toolbox and find those challenges
wanting. The result is the same as under plenary power, but the judiciary would assert itself as a
relevant player and the Constitution as the relevant standard.

Mathews decision ensures we can still fight terrorism

Spiro 2 (Peter, Professor, Hofstra Law School, “Explaining the End of Plenary Power,” Georgetown Immigration
Law Journal, November 17,http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=300575
Thus, the legislative scheme for the removal of terrorists could be rationalized within a Mathews v.
Eldridge framework,83 even where removal is sought on the basis of secret evidence. As applied against
permanent resident aliens whose removal is sought, the case in which the individual interest is greatest,
the special removal procedures supply an elaborate scheme intended to safeguard individual interests
while protecting against the disclosure of information that would harm the national security. 84 The
scheme would not pass muster were it applied in the context of criminal prosecutions. 85 But however
grave a remedy it may be, deportation would seem (on average) one level removed from imprisonment, and
the distinction, perhaps, allows for a finding of adequate due process in this context. A Mathews analysis
might even sustain some unconstrained uses of secret evidence, at least where the alien’s interest is not grave.
The removal on the basis of secret evidence of an arriving alien on a tourist visa does not seem
dramatically unjust, even if the procedure will sometimes generate false positives, given the relatively
insubstantial individual interest at stake.
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AT: Judicial Activism
Activism now – Citizens United, Bush v Gore, and the Federalist society
Emblem 10, Escondido attorney and former Democratic candidate for the 50th
Congressional District
(Tracy, “Senator Orin Hatch: Judicial Activism Cuts Both Ways,” June 30, http://www.laprogressive.com/law-and-
the-justice-system/judicial-activism/)
Certainly the recent United States Supreme Court’s controversial decision in Citizens United which gave
corporations “rights” the federal constitution never contemplated should be considered blatant activism.
Corporations are not citizens; they do not vote and do not deserve the panoply of rights accorded to
individuals. Yet the activist 5-4 Supreme Court reversed precedent to substitute personal political
preferences for corporations and special interests against democracy.
In Bush v. Gore, the U.S. Supreme Court 5-4 majority usurped Florida’s election law by relying upon
the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to determine there was no time to create a system
that was fair to both Bush and Gore. But Florida already had a “fair” election process which was codified. So
the Florida Supreme Court’s interpretation of its state election law should have been followed under
the “states’ rights” doctrine.
Speaking of judicial activism – both United States Supreme Court Justices Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia
are members of a Federalist Society – an organization that advocates a roll back of civil rights. Bush
nominee Justice John Roberts claims he had no recollection of membership in the Federalist Society, but
according to the Washington Post, Roberts was listed as a 97-98 member of the organization. Other right
wing members include Senator Orrin Hatch, Kenneth Starr, and Robert Bork.

The court is activist now – trends prove


Carrington 99 (Paul D., Prof of Law @ Duke, Alabama Law Review, ln)
The Court's own statements describing its understanding of courts' roles in government reinforce the
widespread perception of the Supreme Court and other high courts as political institutions. Although
they incidentally decide cases, Justices sitting on the Supreme Court of the United States have by the terms of
their certiorari rule 9 almost completely disowned responsibility for assuring that individuals' legal rights and
duties are actually enforced by lower courts in individual cases. They seldom bother to decide a case unless
it has impact on some public interest. Moreover, when the Court was deciding only 150 cases a year, it was
tolerating widespread undiscipline by lower federal courts; 10 now that it has cut that number almost in half,
it is forsaking responsibility for holding lower courts in line. It decides only those cases which provide a
suitable occasion for expressing policies the Justices choose to express; in that critical respect, their work
is unmistakably, and by any standard, political. While the Court may have been viewed somewhat
differently before 1925 when it began to exercise this form of discretion, 11 it is no longer unreasonable to
regard the Court less as a [*402] court of law engaged in law enforcement and more as a political
institution openly and primarily engaged in making policy. Most highest state courts exercise discretion
in the selection of their cases similar to that enjoyed by the Supreme Court and likewise view themselves as
engaged primarily in making rules rather than enforcing them. 12
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Bush v. Gore proves Court is activist

Bybee 01 (Keith J., Department of Government @ Harvard, “The Jurisprudence of Uncertainty,” 35 Law & Soc'y
Rev. 943)
Is there anything to the claims of judicial incrementalism? The legal battle spawned by the 2000
presidential election makes this question particularly relevant. During the recount struggle, supporters
of Bush and Gore both lambasted the courts for violating the boundaries of judicial power. Although
each partisan camp directed its ire toward different decisions and different courts, the overall tenor of their
criticism was consistent with the conventional ideal of judicial action. At one point or another, everyone
decried the judicial failure to seek the guidance (and obey the constraints) of general principle. From this
angle, one could argue that the electoral dispute simply reinforced the value of principled judicial
decisionmaking, demonstrating that without the discipline of legal rules and standards judges are just as
partisan as everyone else.Yet, contrary to the conventional view, one might also argue that the line of court
decisions culminating in Bush v. Gore (2000) actually demonstrated the need for judicial
incrementalism. It is true that Bush and Gore partisans called for the courts to apply general principles. But
it is also true that what the partisans ultimately resented was not the absence of such principles. The most
troublesome fact was that judges issued sweeping orders with decisive consequences. Given the depth of
disagreement between partisans, judicial decisions awarding clear victory to one side were inevitably
denounced by the loser, regardless of how many general principles judges cited to support their rulings.
Under such circumstances, one could argue that the better course would have been to forgo broad judicial
decisions.

Court is activist – Hamden

Conservative Voice 06 [http://www.theconservativevoice.com/forum/read.html?id=4804]


In a breathtaking decision, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, a liberal majority on the Supreme Court held that the
president does not have authority to order that terrorists be tried before military commissions. In a
case where the court should not have had jurisdiction if the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 were to be taken
seriously, liberal judicial activism has once again reared its ugly head. Justice Clarence Thomas offered
a stinging dissent regarding the court’s willingness “to second-guess the determination of the political
branches that these conspirators must be brought to justice is both unprecedented and dangerous.”
Andrew McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor and National Review contributor, anticipated such a ruling
offering this prescient thought: “Make no mistake: if this happens, the Supreme Court will have dictated
that we now have a treaty with al Qaeda—which no president, no senate, and no vote of the American
people would ever countenance.” 
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( ) Checking the constitutionality of other branches’ actions isn’t activist – there’s a
distinction between active and activist courts that their evidence misses.

Smith 2 (Stephen, Associate Professor, University of Virginia School of Law, April, Texas Law Review, 80 Tex.
L. Rev. 1057, p. 1080)
1. Substantive Activism. - Some have argued that activism results whenever courts interfere with
initiatives of the political branches of government. Richard Posner has perhaps most clearly articulated this
view, stating that judicial activism involves courts "acting contrary to the will of the other branches of
government" and thereby "taking power from those other branches." 102 It is true, of course, that judicial
interference, usually manifested and most easily seen in the form of judicial invalidation of statutes, is
strongly correlated with periods of heightened activism. 103 Even so, equating "conflict" or
"interference" with activism rests on an unwarranted assumption - namely, that the federal courts are
supposed to be inactive rather than active but restrained. There is a critical distinction between an
"activist" court, on the one hand, and an "active" court, on the other. A court faithful to principles of
judicial restraint could never be activist (at least not in a first-best world) but would nevertheless be
quite active in demanding that other branches of government remain within their proper
constitutional bounds. 104 It could hardly be otherwise given Marbury v. Madison, 105 which held that
enforcing the Constitution is an essential part of the "judicial Power" vested in the federal courts by Article
III.
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( ) Overrules happen all the time and don’t hurt legitimacy or rule of law – Rehnquist
Court was more politicized and disproves their link
Christopher P. Banks, Assistant Professor of Political Science, Buchtel College of Arts and Sciences, The
University of Akron, 1999, Akron Law Review, 32 Akron L. Rev. 233, p. 233-234
Associate Justice Robert H. Jackson once suggested that rulings from the Supreme Court of the United
States have "a mortality rate as high as their authors." 1 Jackson's quip is significant since it is consistent
with the political reality that the Court often manipulates the law to make social policy. The remark is also
controversial since it raises the question of whether the Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice William H.
Rehnquist, is engaging in result-oriented jurisprudence. This is a significant issue since some claim that the
Rehnquist Court uses an unprincipled theory of stare decisis to achieve partisan objectives in law. Critics
argue that this diminishes the Court's institutional prestige and undermines the rule of law. 2 Notably, since
1986 the Supreme Court seems to invite condemnation in some of its high-profile cases, especially in those
instances when a defendant's constitutional rights are at issue. In Payne v. Tennessee, 3 for example, the
Supreme Court reversed itself twice by admitting into evidence victim impact statements in capital
sentencing proceedings. In Payne, dissenting Justice Thurgood Marshall denounced Rehnquist's plurality
opinion on the grounds that the Court was creating a novel theory of stare decisis. Payne, in other words, held
that the force of precedent is at its acme in cases involving contract or property rights; and, conversely, that it
is at its nadir either in opinions relating to procedural and evidentiary rules, 5-4 decisions, or majority
opinions achieved over "spirited dissents." The Chief Justice responded to Marshall by saying that "stare
decisis is not an inexorable command; rather, it 'is a principle of policy and not a mechanical formula of
adherence to the latest decision . . . .'" 4 As a policy matter, therefore, prior law did not prevent the [*234]
statements from being admitted into evidence. This article analyzes if Justice Marshall is correct in
castigating the Rehnquist Court and asserting that it is destroying the rule of law through its stare decisis
jurisprudence. It concludes that Justice Marshall is only partially correct. While the ideological direction of
its jurisprudence has shifted to the right, the Court's behavior in reversing itself is normal and does not
endanger the Court's legitimacy or its faithful adherence to law. A fair assessment of the Rehnquist
Court's precedent cases indicates that they are reversals which were decided in times of natural court
instability and rapid membership change. As a result, the Rehnquist Court's behavior is not that
unusual because it is merely re-examining precedent in periods of constitutional "flux" and legal
policy change.

No Internal Link: The Public won’t perceive decisions as activist—legitimacy is resilient


Smith 91 [Christopher E., Prof PoliSci @ Akron Law, Kentucky Law Journal, ln]
The Supreme Court's status as a legal institution reinforces the image of law as neutral and objective. n8
The Court seeks to preserve its role and image as the country's leading legal institution because, given its removal from direct electoral
accountability, to behave otherwise would lead to overt clashes with popular notions about democratic government. n9 Upon close
examination it is obvious that, contrary to the imagery of stable, slowly evolving legal principles determining
legal decisions, case holdings can be dramatically affected by changes in the Court's composition. Within
specific cases, it is easy to see how the competing policy preferences of liberal and conservative justices
are manifested in their opinions. n10 Overall, however, justices approach their decisions differently from
actors within the other branches of government. Although the justices' values and policy preferences affect
their decisions, the Supreme Court's decision making process is cloaked in legal procedures that
permit considered judgments and careful explanations of underlying justifications. According to one
study, "[t]he institution perceived [by the public] to make decisions most fairly is the United States
Supreme Court, in part because it makes [*321] decisions on the basis of full information." n11 As described by one long-time
observer of the Supreme Court, the Court's image and legitimacy as a legal institution are to some extent deserved : [P]ublic respect
for the [C]ourt -- based partly on ignorance and partly on myth -- is fundamentally well-placed. The justices'
constitutional interpretations owe more to political ideologies than they pretend. But far more than the Congress, far more than any
recent president, justices reach decisions by searching their consciences, carefully sifting facts and law, trying to do right as they see the
right. n12
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The Court is resilient – despite waves of activist decisions its decisions are complied with
and its power remains intact
Lasser 88 (William Lasser, Professor of Political Science at Clemson. 1988. The Limits of
Judicial Power: The Supreme Court in American Politics. p. 2489)
Obviously, the modern Supreme Court has not taken McCloskey's advice. Instead of pulling back, operating at
the margins, nagging and coaxing the people and their representatives, the modern Court has become
more involved--and more directly involved--in political controversies than ever before in its history.
The school desegregation cases, which so concerned McCloskey and other friends of the Court, were followed by
even more controversial decisions on school prayer, busing, defendant rights, reapportionment, and
abortion. The modern judiciary has taken an
active role in supervising state prisons, mental hospitals, and school districts, and plays a highly visible
role in the resolution of countless public policy disputes .
And yet, despite McCloskey's warnings, the modern Court is not in mortal peril. To the contrary, its
decisions stand largely unaltered and are generally obeyed, and it has achieved more in terms of
governance in the three decades since Brown than in all the years of nudging and coaxing that came
before. Certainly the past thirty years have been filled with loud and angry attacks on the Court,
criticism of its conduct, and threats against its independence and autonomy. But through it all the
Court has survived, and is hardly less powerful--or less active--than in the heyday of the Warren era .

No impact – court is resilient and there is no danger in its attempt to dictate policy
Lasser 88 (William Lasser, Professor of Political Science at Clemson. 1988. The Limits of
Judicial Power: The Supreme Court in American Politics. P. 2489)
McCloskey was correct in suggesting that the Supreme Court would be unable to block the popular will
on an issue of extreme importance and urgency, but he was surely wrong to conclude that it was
dangerous for the Court to try. Time and again the Court has placed constitutional barriers in the
path of a determined majority, and time and again it has survived and prospered. Dred Scott,
Reconstruction, and the New Deal may reveal the ultimate strength of popular sovereignty in the United
States, but they also show the strength and resiliency of the Supreme Court.

Public support for the court is unwavering – no risk of losing legitimacy

Jennings 99 (Terri Jennings Peretti, Prof. of Poli. Sci. at Santa Clara. 1999. In Defense of a Political Court. P. 163)
As a matter of logic, the Court does indeed seem to lack any obvious sources of power and legitimacy. As
Mondak and Smithey simply state the matter, “The Supreme Court is an inherently weak institution.” 6 This weakness derives from the
fact that the Court can rely on neither an electoral connection nor funding and enforcement mechanisms for insuring compliance and
ongoing political support. Why is it then that the Court is permitted to endure as a significant national policymaker, particularly when it
often acts against the desires of the majority and other powerful institutions? The traditional answer offered is the special status of the
Court in the public mind. As Adamany and Grossman explain, “Legal Realists and political scientists in the 1930s
argued that public reverence for the Constitution is rooted in psychological needs for stability and
security in human affairs and in the powerful hold that constitutional symbolism has on the American
mind. This reverence in turn transferred to the justices of the Supreme Court, as interpreters and
protectors of the sacred Constitution.” 7 This “judicial symbolism” or “sancrosanctity proposition” 8
thus argues that public support for the Court, even for its unpopular decisions, is insured by its
connection to a powerful symbol, the Constitution. Public support is further assured by expectations of
judicial infallibility and impartiality. These expectations arise from the lack of electioneering or partisan campaigning on the
part of judges and by the outward symbols of judicial decisionmaking. To conventional legal scholars, certain normative implications
follow. To the extent that the Court fulfills those “mythic” expectations, it will continue to receive the public support and confidence
necessary for carrying out its often unpopular role of enforcing reason and the rule of law against the arbitrary will of the majority.

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Neal Devins, Professor of Law and Professor of Government, College of William and Mary. October, 2001
COMMENTARY: CONGRESS AS CULPRIT: HOW LAWMAKERS SPURRED ON THE COURT'S ANTI-
CONGRESS CRUSADE, Duke Law Journal, 51 Duke L.J. 435
It is little wonder that Supreme Court Justices feel empowered by such legislative deliberations. By seeing
the Constitution as the Supreme Court's domain, Congress encourages the Court to strike down measures the
Justices dislike, to settle presidential elections, and so forth. n54 And while the Justices may not know about
the [*447] Gramm-Murray exchange, they certainly know that a legislative backlash has not followed in
the wake of recent rulings limiting congressional power. There is no talk of packing the Court, of
stripping it of jurisdiction, n55 or of amending the Constitution in response to these rulings. Moreover,
these decisions played no role in the 2000 elections. n56 Finally, Congress has shown relatively little
interest in rewriting these statutes. n57 And when Congress has revisited its handiwork, lawmakers
have paid close attention to the Supreme Court's rulings, limiting their efforts to revisions the Court is
likely to approve. n58

Court will win the fight – empirically other branches won’t pursue stripping

Resnik 6 (Judith, Professor at the Yale Law School, “Court Stripping: Unconscionable and
Unconstitutional?” Slate Magazine, February 1,http://www.slate.com/id/2135240/
Move even further now, beyond the specifics of any clauses of the Constitution, to "structural" arguments.
The Constitution created three branches of government and committed itself (and us) to a system of separated
powers, checking, balancing, and not encroaching. The words endowing one branch with power should not
be read to undermine the essential function of another branch. The structure of the three coequal branches
thus makes implausible the idea that Congress could give no funds to the federal courts or close all the
facilities, or end all the lower courts' jurisdiction. Such painstaking debates have done more than provide the grist for
law professors to get tenure. Article III is the text that framed Marbury v. Madison, the 1803 decision by Chief Justice John Marshall
establishing the power of judicial review. Unlike the jurisdiction-stripping parts of the DTA, Marbury turned on whether Congress could
give the Supreme Court more original jurisdiction that the Constitution detailed; Marshall ruled that Congress could not.
The court faced a variant of the question during the Civil War, when the issue was not giving more but taking away jurisdiction.
Congress tried to stop the Supreme Court in the 1860s from ruling on the constitutionality of the Reconstruction. A newspaper editor,
William H. McCardle, who was a vehement objector, challenged his detention by the military command. As the case was pending,
Congress plucked it from the court by repealing the legislative basis on which the Supreme Court had taken the case. The court upheld
that repeal while noting that other routes to justice were open. A few other odd-lot precedents exist. One 19th-century case refused to
permit Congress to overturn the court's interpretation of a presidential pardon relating to loyalty to the Union. Another, after World War
II, found that no jurisdiction existed for prisoners of war to bring habeas petitions in the United States. Generally, these and other
opinions are fact-specific, focused on the nitty gritty of individual statutes and the facts. Moreover, many are dated, decided before the
court had announced a host of individual rights and liberties. During the second half of the 20th century, as federal courts that had once
protected corporations and property came to recognize the rights of African-Americans, women, and criminal defendants, members of
Congress would routinely register objections by proposing to take jurisdiction over some set of cases
away. While limitations on certain kinds of remedies (injunctions against unions, or against state rate-
making) were imposed, most of these bills did not pass. Law professors used proposed bills stripping court
jurisdiction over topics ranging from school prayer and busing to abortion as hypotheticals, to practice
students on trying to figure out exactly what constitutional powers Congress had over the federal courts.
In the 1990s, however, the hypothetical became real. Congress enacted sharp limits relating to the courts'
jurisdiction over immigration. Soon thereafter, a majority of the Supreme Court read the terms of the
statute narrowly, concluding that when Congress had not used clear and plain language in the text of a
statute cutting off all routes to courts, their doors remained ajar.
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Courts produce social change – will alter the perception of the CP as controversial

Tucker 95 (D.F.B., Political Science at the University of Melbourne, The Rehnquist Court and Civil Rights, p35-
36)
One important issue is whether Rosenberg’s (and Dahl’s) ‘constrained court’ view overlooks the indirect
impact that landmark decisions may have. What I have in mind is whether courts can act as some sort of
catalyst to facilitate the mobilization of political forces for change. Perhaps they can influence outcomes by
shaping the political agenda so that issues that would otherwise escape attention are brought into
public focus. Perhaps important cases serve as symbols so that the members of social movements are
prevented from despair and even inspired to increase their efforts to work for change. In a review of
Rosenberg’s The Hollow Hope Malcolm Feeley suggests that judicial decisions do produce indirect
effects of this kind.27 He wonders whether Rosenberg has overlooked the various and subtle ways that courts
can raise expectations and, by offering a hope of victory motivate reformers. Certainly the cases that
Rosenberg focuses on in his study (Brown v. Board of Education, Roe v. Wade, Mapp v. Ohio, Miranda v.
Arizona and Baker v. Carr) do serve as important symbols in United States cultural life.
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There’s a slow transition to use international law in the squo

Rahdert 7 (Mark, Professor of Law at Temple, “Comparative Constitutional Advocacy, 56 Am. U.L. Rev. 553,
Lexis)
The American tradition of legal and constitutional isolation is slowly breaking down and will continue
to do so. There are several factors contributing to this development, including the increasing globalization of American law, the
interaction and exchange among judicial officials of different nations, the international convergence of constitutional norms, and the
increasing sophistication and progressivism of foreign constitutional courts.
A. Globalization and its Constitutional Implications Globalization of the law is eroding American constitutional
isolation. n273 Globalization of American law has advanced along many fronts, most notably in areas related to trade and finance, but
also in environmental law, intellectual property, and other important domains. n274 Where globalization has occurred, it has introduced
into the American judicial process a new need for attention to comparative legal analysis. n275 While most of these developments do not
have direct constitutional implications, they carry overtones that can indirectly introduce a comparative element into American
constitutional discourse.
For example, the United States has agreed to abide by and enforce a variety of international legal principles that constrain domestic discretion both to adopt restrictive policies toward
foreign trade and to provide preferential treatment for domestic competitors in global markets. n276 Two prominent examples are U.S. participation in the  [*603]  World Trade
Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement. Such agreements introduce comparative elements into U.S. judicial decisionmaking. They create the possibility of
conflict between their terms and domestic laws, contracts, or other legal arrangements. When that occurs, U.S. courts will be called upon to interpret the language of the multinational
agreements, determine the extent (if any) of their legally cognizable conflict with domestic laws or regulations, and decide how the conflict will be resolved. n277
Conflict between international trade arrangements and domestic law has constitutional overtones because, under Article VI's Supremacy Clause, such international free trade
obligations become part of the "supreme law of the land" in the United States, binding upon government and private citizens alike. n278 Under the constitutional doctrine of
preemption, the international trade obligations adopted at the national level displace conflicting state and local law. n279 They also become judicially binding in domestic as well as
international commercial arrangements, for example by rendering certain contractual arrangements illegal or defeating claims based on domestic protective legislation that conflicts
with international legal commands.
Globalization of this sort obliges greater consideration of transnational and comparative principles and materials in American courts. It
not only promotes awareness of international and comparative precedents, but it also creates a pressure for conscious complementarity
of decisionmaking between American and foreign tribunals, which in turn requires comparative analysis. In litigation over domestic
application, American courts must interpret the international agreements in question. n280 When they do so, they must  [*604]  be aware
that other foreign national tribunals will also interpret the same agreements, and that international tribunals may exist to provide final
authoritative interpretation of disputed questions. n281 The U.S. courts thus may well have occasion to consider: (1) how other world
tribunals have interpreted the provisions of the international agreement in question; (2) whether similar domestic law conflicts have been
detected in other participating nations; and (3) if so, how other court systems have chosen to resolve those conflicts. At a minimum, U.S.
courts probably would not want to give the international norms more restrictive effect in the United States than they received abroad.
And while the U.S. courts might not be required to interpret the international agreements in the same way as foreign courts, divergent
interpretation could trigger various forms of international conflict. This conflict may range from international litigation, to legal and
diplomatic responses by other nations (or in some cases even by foreign corporations or citizens) whose interests are harmed by the U.S.
interpretation, to economic or legal retaliation by foreign states whose interests are negatively affected by the U.S. decision. n282
Given the prospect for such international consequences, it would behoove American courts to attend carefully to potential interpretative
divergences from foreign tribunals. n283 At a minimum, American courts need to know what foreign and international courts have said
regarding the trade provisions in question before adopting a different interpretation. Where possible, the American courts should
probably harmonize U.S. interpretation with the weight of  [*605]  interpretation elsewhere; n284 alternatively, they should have good
cause, solidly grounded in U.S. law and policy, for adopting any interpretation that is at odds with comparative precedent. n285 In either
event, they need to know what comparative law is on the interpretative issues in question in order to make an intelligent decision. They
should not depart from comparative precedent lightly, let alone ignorantly or absent-mindedly.
Ultimately, of course, authoritative U.S. interpretation of disputed provisions in international trade agreements becomes the
responsibility of the U.S. Supreme Court. The Court is most likely to take up this duty where the terms of the agreement are subject to
competing plausible interpretations. n286 That possibility could emerge (as with domestic statutory law) through a conflict in
interpretation by lower federal courts, or between federal and state tribunals. In the case of international agreements, it could also arise
because of a conflict in interpretation between a lower U.S. court and a foreign tribunal.
In such a case, the Supreme Court's interpretation will perform the important constitutional function of providing uniformity in federal
law. n287 But the Court's choice among competing interpretations of international agreements will carry additional constitutional
significance. This occurs both because the choice will affect how the provision in question preempts other American laws, and because
the choice will have implications for the exercise of national legislative and executive powers. n288 Although the Court may not be
technically  [*606]  required to consider foreign interpretations of the disputed treaty language, there are powerful constitutional policy
reasons for doing so. A decision at odds with international precedent, for example, could affect the President's ability to conduct foreign
policy by triggering international litigation, inviting retaliatory measures by other states, or leading to sanctions against the United States
in international tribunals. n289
As globalization progresses, and as U.S. participation in international agreements proliferates, the
circumstances in which both the Supreme Court and lower federal courts need to be aware of foreign
precedents will increase. As they do, judicial demand for information about foreign law will grow, as will the need for both
advocates and judges proficient in understanding and utilizing international and foreign precedent. n290 Over time, the
inevitable effect will be more extensive knowledge and use of foreign legal decisions in American
courts.
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High profile Supreme Court rulings using international law galvanize opposition and cause
court stripping

Hutt and Parshall 00 (David and Lisa, J.D., Ph.D., legal trainer in Washington, and former Adjunct Assistant
Professor at Le Moyne College, and, Ph.D., Assistant Professor in the Department of History and Gov’t at Daemen
College, “Divergent Views on the Use of International and Foreign Law: Congress and the Executive versus the
Court,” 33 Ohio N.U.L. Rev. 113, p. Lexis)
In its last few terms, the United States Supreme Court has utilized foreign and international law to
justify decisions in three high-profile cases involving matters of constitutional interpretation. In these
decisions, the High Court explicitly referenced international and foreign decisions in striking down the death
penalty for the mentally retarded, n1 invalidating statutes prohibiting same-sex sodomy, n2 and declaring the
juvenile death penalty unconstitutional. n3 Although these rulings avoided any claim that foreign and
international legal decisions are dispositive to domestic constitutional interpretation, the Court's use of
foreign and international legal material set in motion expressions of outrage by Congress, including the
introduction of legislation designed to reign in such practice.
This article addresses the apparent divergence of views between the legal and political branches of the U.S.
government regarding the role of foreign and international law in domestic constitutional interpretation and
the formulation of U.S. law and policies. This basic thesis of a conflict emerging between the Court, and the
Congress and the Executive in the appropriateness of internationalizing American law was recently
articulated by Hadar Harris. n4 Like Harris, we argue that executive policy decisions and congressional
legislative action reveals much less receptivity to international and foreign law than exemplified in the
recent trend in Supreme Court decision-making. From restrictions placed on U.S. cooperation with the
International Criminal Court, to the Bush Administration's unilateral withdrawal from the Optional Protocol
on the Vienna Convention for Counselor Relations, the political branches have taken a more restrictive, if
not hostile, approach towards the importation of foreign legal jurisprudence than the Court. While we
accept Harris' argument, we expand on his approach, providing more justification for the existence of
[*114]  the divergence, and considering possible reactions by the U.S. Supreme Court to the mounting
political pressure over the continued use of "comparative constitutional analysis." In addition, we assert that
the divergence ultimately impacts American law in different ways with disparate implications for the
international and domestic arenas. In fact in several respects, the divergence highlights a contrast between the
international and the domestic spheres of the three branches. The Supreme Court's decisions utilizing foreign
law have primarily domestic consequences, whereas congressional and executive action have greater
ramifications for U.S. relations with other nations and international organizations.
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Court stripping turns the cp—means no future use of CIL and plan’s unenforced.

Kubiak 5 (David, Project Censored award-winning journalist, “Introducing The Constitution Restoration Act,” Z
Magazine, April 3, http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=104&ItemID=7569]
In other words, the bill ensures that God's divine word (and our infallible leaders' interpretation thereof)
will hereafter trump all our pathetic democratic notions about freedom, law and rights -- and our courts
can't say a thing. This, of course, will take "In God We Trust" to an entirely new level, because soon He
(and His personally anointed political elite) will be all the legal recourse we have left.
This is not a joke, a test, or a fit of libertarian paranoia. The CRA already has 28 sponsors in the House and
Senate, and a March 20 call to lead sponsor Sen. Richard Shelby's office assures us that "we have the
votes for passage." This is a highly credible projection as Bill Moyers observes in his 3/24/05 "Welcome to
Doomsday" piece in the New York Review of Books: "The corporate, political, and religious right's
hammerlock... extends to the US Congress. Nearly half of its members before the election-231 legislators
in all (more since the election)-are backed by the religious right... Forty-five senators and 186 members of
the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the most influential Christian Right
advocacy groups."
This stunning bill and the movement behind it deserve immediate crash study on at least 3 different fronts.
1. Its hostile divorce of American jurisprudence from our hard-won secular history and international
norms. To again quote the Conservative Caucus: "This important bill will restrict the jurisdiction of the
U.S. Supreme Court and all lower federal courts to that permitted by the U.S. Constitution, including on the
subject of the acknowledgement of God (as in the Roy Moore 10 Commandments issue); and it also restricts
federal courts from recognizing the laws of foreign countries and international law [e.g., against torture,
global warming, unjust wars, etc. - ed.] as the supreme law of our land."
Re the last point, envision some doddering judges who still revere our Declaration of Independence's
"decent respect to the opinions of mankind," and suppose they invoke in their rulings some
international precepts from the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Covenant on the
Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women or, God forbid, the Geneva Conventions. Well,
under the CRA that would all be clearly illegal and, thank God, that's the last we'd ever hear from
them.
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No solvency – court stripping

Fyfe 6 (Alonzo, Human Cloning Foundation, “Opposing Unjust Laws,” September 28,
http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_atheistethicist_archive.html)
Waiting for the courts to declare the law unconstitutional is one of the most foolish and reckless
tendencies practiced among those who claim to be interested in defending the separation of church and state.
Here is what will happen: There will be a series of trials as the case moves up the court system - a series of
trials that will take years to complete. With each trial, if the judge should render a verdict opposed to the
law, unjust religious groups will send out fundraising letters complaining about how 'liberal activists
judges' are destroying the rights of believers to practice their faith. Tens to hundreds of millions of people
will hear a message that the law is meant only to prevent governments from being intimidated from
perfectly legitimate acts by the fear of a costly trial in which they might have to pay court costs. They will
use these mailings to collect hundreds of millions of dollars that they will use to further spread their message
to more people. They will also coach those people into voting for candidates who will promise to fill the
courts with judges who understand that our rights come from God and that worshipping God in the public
square is the only way to protect us from His wrath (hurricanes, terrorist attacks, and the like). Because of
these political maneuverings, we have no reason to believe that the Supreme Court will, in fact, declare the
law unconstitutional. In the amount of time it takes the case to make its way through the court, we might
have a court filled with people who actually believe that local governments must be protected from the fear
of citizens seeking the protection of their First Amendment rights. Okay, it does not make sense to use that
anybody could believe such a thing. Yet, clearly, people who can believe the contradictions and absurdities
that are to be found in most religious interpretations are not going to have trouble interpreting the First
Amendment as saying, "Atheists shall not be permitted to impose their anti-God hatred on local governments
by exploiting fear of expensive lawsuits." If the Supreme Court does declare the law unconstitutional,
then the perpetrators of religious injustice will send out another set of mass mailings, collect a few
hundred million dollars, that will be contributed to candidates who will make sure that those 'liberal
activist judges' are replaced by people who understand the Constitution's true meaning. Even if the law is
never reversed, society will be seeped in a doctrine that promotes vicious hatred of anybody who dares
challenge a government statute that aims to establish a religion. We will live in a society where few citizens
will be willing to tolerate the hatred and abuse that will be heaped upon anybody who dares stand up and say
that governments shall not become tools for the Church to use as it sees fit.

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Norton 6(Helen Norton--Professor of Law at the University of Maryland, 41 Wake Forest L. Rev. 1003,
“Reshaping Federal Jurisdiction,” Lexis Nexis)
Not only are these efforts increasingly successful, they are likely to reemerge in future proposals to shape
subject matter jurisdiction and thus the balance of judicial power. The House's passage of two separate
court-stripping bills in the same Congress represents a high-water mark in the court-shaping
movement, as does its passage of the Pledge Protection Act in successive Congresses. Indeed, some of the
dynamics that helped thwart earlier court-stripping measures appear to have diminished or disappeared
altogether. __n97__ In the past, for example, the courts - and especially the Supreme Court - may have
survived congressional attack due to their comparatively strong public reputation. __n98__ Shifting
perceptions of government institutions may weaken that shield, as one survey found that a majority of
respondents agreed "that "judicial activism' [*1027] has reached the crisis stage, and that judges who
ignore voters' values should be impeached. Nearly half agreed with a congressman who said judges are
"arrogant, out-of-control and unaccountable.'" __n99__ Other recent polls also suggest a drop in public
support for the courts, including the Supreme Court, at least in some quarters. __n100__ Changes in
public opinion, accompanied by proponents' sheer political power, may encourage further
jurisdictional realignment.
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Court stripping is likely and common historically when courts overstep their bounds

Lau 8 (Terrance, Associate Professor at the University of Dayton, Associate Professor at the University of Dayton,
Judicial Independence: A Call for Reform, Nevada Law Journal, 9 Nev. L.J. 79, fall 2008, Lexis)
After the Chase impeachment proved the futility of impeachment as a legislative tool to check the judiciary,
attention in Congress turned to the use of jurisdiction as a means of controlling the courts. Attempts to strip
the Court of its jurisdiction to hear cases are nothing new in American legal history. After Martin v.
Hunter's Lessee, __n268__ for example, when the Court affirmed its authority to invalidate unconstitutional
state laws, states' rights advocates attempted to strip the Court of its jurisdiction to review state laws
altogether. __n269__ In the 1950's, Congress considered legislation to "remove certain internal security
laws from the possibility of Supreme Court invalidation." __n270__ In the 1960's, proposals to preclude
judicial review of obscenity laws were considered. __n271__ In the 1980's, there were a number of proposals
that would have stripped courts of the power to hear cases on abortion __n272__ and school prayer.
__n273__ More recently, the [*103] Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, the Prison
Litigation Reform Act, and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996
have all contained jurisdiction-stripping provisions. __n274__ Introduced but unenacted legislation seeks
to prevent federal courts from hearing any case involving a federal officer's acknowledgement of God,
__n275__ to prevent federal courts from considering international law, __n276__ the free exercise or
establishment clause, __n277__ the right to privacy, __n278__ an equal protection challenge to marriage
laws, __n279__ challenge to specific legislation, __n280__ challenges to state pornography laws, __n281__
and royalties under certain offshore oil and gas leases. __n282__ In one notable speech, Senator Jesse Helms
said: "In anticipation of judicial usurpations of power, the framers of our Constitution wisely gave the
Congress the authority, by a simple majority of both Houses, to check the Supreme Court by means of
regulation of its appellate jurisdiction." __n283__ Even Chief Justice John Roberts, as a special assistant
to Reagan's Attorney General, William French Smith, "provided a vigorous argument as to why it would be
constitutional for Congress to enact a law that would strip the Supreme Court of jurisdiction over school
prayer and busing cases." n284 The most well-known, and perhaps notorious, example of jurisdiction
stripping, however, remains Ex parte McCardle. __n285__

Courts will be stripped

Chemerinsky 4 (Erwin, Professor at the Duke School of Law, “In Defense of Judicial Review: A Reply to
Professor Kramer,” 92 Calif. L. Rev. 1013, July, Lexis))
A fourth meaning of popular constitutionalism, and one which is consistent with the third, is that the other
branches of government should develop mechanisms to convey their disagreement with court decisions.
Professor Kramer expressly endorses this and mentions such congressional techniques as stripping
jurisdiction from the courts and cutting the budget of the judiciary as a sanction for objectionable
decisions. n14 In other words, if Congress disagrees with controversial decisions, such as those
concerning abortion or school prayer, Congress could preclude the courts from hearing such cases. In
fact, Congress could enact a law that it knows is of dubious constitutionality, for example, prohibiting
partial birth abortion, and include a provision prohibiting judicial review of the statute. Congress also
could threaten the courts: if they acted in an unpopular way, they would be without funds.
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Court stripping takes out judicial independence
ACLU 01 [UPSETTING CHECKS AND BALANCES:
CONGRESSIONAL HOSTILITY TOWARD THE COURTS IN TIMES OF CRISIS,
http://www.aclu.org/FilesPDFs/ ACF47C9.pdf]
As a practical matter, court-stripping may be self-defeating. Such legislation is typically motivated by
congressional anger toward the content of certain court rulings. But removing future jurisdiction over the
issue may simply serve to lock in “bad” precedent – a conundrum even some critics of so-called activist
judging have acknowledged. Former Judge Bork notes that: Some state courts would inevitably consider
themselves bound by the federal precedents; others, no longer subject to review, might not. The best that
Congress could hope for would be lack of uniformity. This is a far cry from amending the Constitution or
even overruling a case. While it may seem preferable to some to lack uniformity on a particular issue rather
than to have a repugnant uniform rule, the government could not easily bear many such cases and
certainly could not long endure a complete lack of uniformity in federal law. Thus there are practical
limitations on excessive use of the Exceptions Clause.165 More troublesome is that court-stripping defeats
the spirit of the Constitution. The Framers took care to create an independent judiciary to safeguard
individual liberty. Removing important issues from the purview of the courts, especially those concerning
the rights of unpopular minorities, is a direct assault on these constitutional protections. By the same token,
Congress does great harm to the integrity of the federal judiciary when it leaves issues before the courts,
but attempts to manipulate how judges may remedy violations of constitutional or statutory rights. Even
scholars who believe that the Constitution allows significant congressional control of federal jurisdiction
generally agree it would be unwise to invoke it over any significant category of federal law or use it to
achieve a desired substantive outcome.166 Thus Professor Gerald Gunther, writing at the time Congress was
considering court-stripping bills in the early 1980s regarding abortion, busing and school prayer, concluded
“I would urge the conscientious legislator to vote against the recent jurisdiction-stripping devices because
they are unwise and violate the ‘spirit’ of the Constitution, even though they are, in my view, within the sheer
legal authority of Congress.”167 Put another way, “[w]hat may be conceivable in theory would be
devastating in practice to the real world system of checks and balances that has enabled our constitutional
system to function for 200 years.”
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AFF: Double Bind
Court action requires outside enforcement – puts them in a double bind. Either the
counterplan

O’Brien 3 (David, professor of Government and Foreign Affairs at the University of Virginia, 2003 (Storm
Center: The Supreme Court in American Politics Sixth Edition pg 314)
Denied the power of the sword or the purse, the Court must cultivate its institutional prestige. The
power of the Court lies in the persuasiveness of its rulings and ultimately rests with other political
institutions and public opinion. As an independent force, the Court has no chance to resolve great issues
of public policy. Dred Scott v. Sandford (i857) and Brown v. Board of Education (i954) illustrate the
limitations of Supreme Court policy-making. The "great folly," as Senator Henry Cabot Lodge
characterized Dred Scott, was not the Court's interpretation of the Constitution or the unpersuasive
moral position that blacks were not persons under the Constitution. Rather, "the attempt of the Court to
settle the slavery question by judicial decision was simple madness." As Lodge explained:
Slavery involved not only the great moral issue of the right of one man to hold another in bondage and to buy
and sell him but it involved also the foundations of a social fabric covering half the country and caused
men to feel so deeply that it finally brought them beyond the question of nullification to a point where the life
of the Union was at stake and a decision could only be reached by war.
A hundred years later, political struggles within the country and, notably, presidential and
congressional leadership in enforcing the Court's school desegregation ruling saved the moral appeal
of Brown from becoming another "great folly."

Courts issue decisions without teeth because they know they can’t enforce them

Smith 93 (Christopher, Associate Professor of Criminal Justice at Michigan State University, Courts, Politics and
the Judicial Process p. 296).
Because the judicial branch is a component of the political system rather than a separate entity,
judicial policy-making is affected by interactions with other branches of government. When courts
issue decisions, other political entities react, especially if judicial decisions conflict with the policy goals
of other political institutions. Judges are cognizant of the power of other governmental and political actors,
and so judicial decisions may be limited by anticipation of external reactions.
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AFF: Courts Link to Politics
Court action doesn’t shield politics

Harrison 5 (Lindsay, Lecturer in Law, University of Miami Law School and Stephen I. Vladeck, Associate
Professor of Law at the University Of Miami School Of Law, is a national expert in national security law and the
Detention Power., Does the Court Act as "Political Cover" for the Other Branches? November 18, 2005
legaldebate.blogspot.com)
While the Supreme Court may have historically been able to act as political cover for the President
and/or Congress, that is not true in a world post-Bush v. Gore. The Court is seen today as a politicized
body, and especially now that we are in the era of the Roberts Court, with a Chief Justice hand picked by the
President and approved by the Congress, it is highly unlikely that Court action will not, at least to some
extent, be blamed on and/or credited to the President and Congress. The Court can still get away with a
lot more than the elected branches since people don't understand the technicalities of legal doctrine like they
understand the actions of the elected branches; this is, in part, because the media does such a poor job of
covering legal news. Nevertheless, it is preposterous to argue that the Court is entirely insulated from
politics, and equally preposterous to argue that Bush and the Congress would not receive at least a
large portion of the blame for a Court ruling that, for whatever reason, received the attention of the
public.

Controversial decisions spark political repurcussions

Friedman 05 [Jacob D., Professor of Law, NYU “The Politics of Judicial Review,” Texas Law Review,
december]
[*269] Only recently - sparked, as is typically the case, by a spate of contentious Supreme Court
decisions - have many begun to see that constitutional judging cannot be insulated from "ordinary"
politics in quite the way theory demands. 60 Recognition of the relationship between law and politics is on the rise.
61 Still, it is apparent that normative scholars remain uncomfortable with the implications of positive scholarship, even as they take
notice. Legal theorists indicate their discomfort by moving quickly from positive assertions about the relationship between law and
politics to conclusions that positive scholars would suggest simply are implausible. 62 To take a frequent example, some normative
scholars look to the political branches to correct errant judges 63 without considering whether there is any reason to think the political
branches are likely to do so at present. 64

Court decisions historically have sparked partisan battles

Friedman 05 [Jacob D., Professor of Law, NYU “The Politics of Judicial Review,” Texas Law Review,
december]
This Part examines how the necessity of separating law from politics became a central tenet of constitutional
theory. By explaining how we have arrived at the present, history opens space for understanding our world
differently. 37 What began as a rhetorical response by opponents of particular Supreme Court decisions has
become a fixture of theories of judicial review. This instinct is not wrong: There clearly is a longstanding and
central societal belief that law and politics are not the same and should not be considered as such. At the
same time, however, history suggests that a strict separation of law and politics is - and always has been -
implausible. Throughout American history, views about judicial review have been shaped more by political
responses to judicial decisions in heated controversies than by any jurisprudential theory of what it means to
live under a constitution. This was true during the first great clash of will between the courts and the
"political" branches following the election of 1800. All the famous partisan skirmishes of that era - the
Marbury litigation, the repeal of the Circuit Judges Act, and the impeachment of Samuel Chase - were
motivated by the Federalist party's withdrawal to the judiciary and the immediate political challenge this
withdrawal posed to Republican policy. 38 Nonetheless, these disputes played out as debates about judicial
independence, popular accountability, and the separation of politics and law. 39
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The court isn’t separated from politics – their arguments ignore reality

Friedman 05 [Jacob D., Professor of Law, NYU “The Politics of Judicial Review,” Texas Law Review,
december]
The thesis of this Article is that normative constitutional theory about judicial review will remain
impoverished until it fully embraces the positive project. In pursuing the ideal, normative theorists typically
sideline the sort of political influences discussed here. 15 For example, in writing about what [*260]
might be normative theory's most famous constitutional judge, Hercules, Ronald Dworkin recognizes
the very practical problems the real-world judge faces, such as the need to obtain the agreement of
other colleagues on the Supreme Court or to ensure the implementation of judicial decrees by other
governmental actors. 16 Yet, Dworkin expressly puts these problems to one side so that Hercules will be
"free to concentrate on the issues of principle." 17 Granting considerations of principle all the due they
properly are owed, it nonetheless is the case that many of the institutional constraints Hercules faces are
fixed aspects of our constitutional system that Hercules himself has no choice but to heed. The
Constitution does grant Hercules a certain degree of independence, 18 but it also embeds him in
politics. This is no accident: The Constitution represents a deliberate balance between, on the one hand,
separation and independence of the branches and, on the other, accountability and the idea of checks and
balances. 19 Hamilton, the nation's first advocate for judicial review, correctly understood that the judiciary
is "the least dangerous" branch, readily susceptible to attacks from the other branches and dependent on the
"executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments." 20 To the extent the judiciary appears more powerful
today than it did in Hamilton's time, this itself is a function of broad popular support for judicial review - a
political constituency of the most profound kind. 21 That Hercules is a judge and not just any other political
actor is a fact of enormous significance; still, Hercules must do his judging in a political world. Although
he enjoys life tenure, he was appointed through a political [*261] process, and his confirmation did
not scrub him of the ideology he possessed before he ascended to the bench. Further, Hercules cannot
act alone. He requires the consent of his colleagues, who may not always agree with him, making
compromise of his views a necessity. 22 Even when his colleagues agree, Hercules' court was not given
the means to enforce its own decrees. That court must obtain compliance from political actors, 23 as
well as from the lower courts that are subservient to it, 24 again necessitating some calculation by Hercules
about how those institutions will respond. Ultimately, Hercules' power rests on the willingness of the
public, and the political actors accountable to it, to respect his independence and the decrees of his
court. Any account of Hercules' proper role falls short if it does not take account of these hard-wired
constraints. 25 "Is does not imply ought, but ought implies can." 26
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AFF: Permutation – Shielding
Politics isn’t a net benefit – acting together provides political cover – they’ll say their hands
were tied

Garrett and Stutz 05 [Robert T., and Terrence, Dallas Morning News Staff “Justices to decide if overhaul
needed after bills fail in Legislature,” August 19, 2005,
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/schoolfinance/stories/082005dntexs
ession.8bd31b4a.html]
That could foreshadow the court's response to a chief argument by state attorneys – that the court should butt
out and leave school finance to the Legislature. A court finding against the state would put the ball back
in the hands of lawmakers, who have tended to put off dealing with problems in schools, prisons and
mental health facilities until state or federal judges forced them to act. "It's the classic political
response to problems they don't want to deal with," said Maurice Dyson, a school finance expert and
assistant law professor at Southern Methodist University. "There is no better political cover than to
have a court rule that something must be done, which allows politicians to say their hands are tied."

Court action provides cover

Heise, 00 [Michael, Professor of Law, Case Western Reserve University “Education and the Constitution:
Shaping each other and the next century: Preliminary Thoughts on the Virtues of Passive Dialogue,” Akron law
Review, 34 Akron L. Rev. 73]
Professor Paul Tractenberg, long active in the New Jersey school finance litigation, 81 identifies institutional credibility as
an important practical concern for courts. Tractenberg is acutely aware of the institutional stakes
involved in active judicial participation, particularly within the school finance setting. On the one hand he reasons that an active
judicial posture might provide political cover for reluctant legislators. After all, politically accountable
legislators could point to the state supreme court and suggest that the justices left them with little
choice but to increase school spending. 82 Such a calculation, Professor Tractenberg correctly notes,
risks [*87] depleting the court's limited and valuable "political capital ." 83 He goes on to note that: There are
only so many times that the court [the New Jersey Supreme Court] can be portrayed as the dictatorial villain
forcing the State to do, in the name of a constitutional mandate, what a majority of its citizens disfavor before
judicial credibility is undermined. 84

Even if the courts are just thinking about acting it still provides cover

Grant 3 ( [Douglas L., Professor, William S. Boyd School of Law, UNLV


“Interstate Water Allocation Compacts,” University of Colorado Law Review, winter]
Just as states would have negotiated few, if any, boundary and water compacts if the matter were left to the
pleasure of the state in possession, a state advantaged by an old water allocation compact negotiated under
different circumstances would have little, if any, incentive to renegotiate if left to its pleasure. But the
advantaged state's situation changes dramatically if the Supreme Court would allow the dissatisfied state to
withdraw from the compact and then apply the doctrine of equitable apportionment. Rather than face highly
unpredictable apportionment litigation, the state advantaged by the old compact should then have a serious
interest in renegotiating the compact. Furthermore, the unpredictability of apportionment litigation can
provide needed political cover for state officials engaged in renegotiating a compact. This was
illustrated by the recent negotiated settlement of a claim by Nebraska against [*179] Wyoming for
violating a Supreme Court decree equitably apportioning the North Platte River. The Wyoming
governor explained to Wyoming citizens why he approved the settlement by saying, in part, "while
Wyoming's case was strong and I am confident that Wyoming's legal team would have put forward the
very best defense possible to Nebraska' claims, there is always uncertainty in litigation." 405
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Court action provides cover for legislators to act on politically controversial issues

Heise 00 (Michael, Professor of Law, Case Western Reserve University, “Education and the Constitution:
Shaping each other and the nextcentury: Preliminary Thoughts on the Virtues of Passive Dialogue,” Akron law
Review, 34 Akron L. Rev. 73)
Second, active judicial participation in the school finance area might indirectly exacerbate one problem that it
seeks to solve. One problem that arises in the school finance context involves legislative inertia. The question
is how courts should approach and respond to instances of legislative inertia, assuming that such a condition
is easily recognizable. By seeking to address an issue by actively and directly [*106] engaging lawmakers,
courts may ultimately "solve" one inertia problem, but they will do so in a manner that will fuel additional
inertia problems in the future. Specifically, active judicial participation often provides political "cover"
for lawmakers eager to avoid tough -- and possibly divisive -- political questions that sometimes occupy
the center of the political process. Once lawmakers see that judges are willing to inject themselves into
political debates, some lawmakers might be induced to become more, rather than less, complacent.
Moreover, once the judiciary becomes engaged with a political problem, it becomes part of that problem. To
the extent that such problems might not go away anytime soon or, for that matter, worsen, the judiciary's
institutional credibility could become an issue.

Judicial action sparks congressional action – without a political faout


Blood 99 (Christopher G., Thomas Jefferson School of Law JD – UC-San Diego “The Eroded Power of the Press
and the Need to Apply Separation of Powers Principles,” Journal of Law & Politics, fall]
Nor is inter-branch facilitation without precedent. The executive branch makes its high-level nominees
available to the legislative branch to facilitate the "advice and consent" role that Congress plays. These
nominees undergo intense congressional scrutiny, sometimes only to be rejected, and yet the executive
branch has made not only the nominee available but also their own investigative reports in order to assist
Congress in carrying out one of their constitutional functions. 163 Similarly, the judicial branch makes
indirect recommendations to Congress as to needed legislation, 164 thereby facilitating its job. In so
doing, the Court's words can give political cover to the legislative branch, assisting that coordinate
branch in the carrying out of its functions. The point is that nothing in the separation of powers doctrine
prohibits one branch from assisting a coordinate branch in fulfilling its constitutional role when the needed
assistance is merely peripheral to the assisted branch's role. So, when a coordinate branch must restrict access
to a government function of great public interest, solely for security reasons, the press branch should be
allowed to carry out its function with but minimal restrictions. Certainly, if either the legislative or judicial
branches needed access to fulfill their constitutional function, that is the outcome that would result.
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The court has no authority to rule on visa

Charles 10 (Patrick, “The Plenary Power Doctrine and the Constitutionality of Ideological Exclusions: A


Historical Perspective,” Texas Review of Law & Politics, Vol. 15, 2010  http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?
abstract_id=1618976)
The history shows that the authority to admit, expel, and exclude foreigners is a political matter that is
solely subject to the determination of the political branches as a means of self-preservation—an
interpretation of the Constitution that the Supreme Court has always understood.326 The fact that citizens,
advocacy groups, or attorneys may personally believe that certain foreigners are being denied First
Amendment freedoms by being excluded on association or ideological grounds is irrelevant. It is a well-
established tenet of the law of nations that the danger or threat foreigners pose is a determination to be
made by the political branches of government based upon such factors as the doctrine of allegiance,
and not by a court absent express authority through statute or treaty.327 As Sir Francis Bacon states,
even an alien friend “may be an Enemy,” therefore to this “person the Law allotteth…[a] benefit” that is
“transitory” at the discretion of the sovereign government.328 At the Constitutional Convention, Roger
Sherman made a similar observation when he stated that if the “United States have not invited [the]
foreigners” the political branches can “make any discriminations [it] may judge requisite.”3

Court dictating immigration policy doesn’t solve – laundry list

Feere 9, Legal Policy Analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies


(Jon, “Plenary Power: Should Judges Control U.S. Immigration Policy?” Center for Immigration Studies, February,
http://www.cis.org/plenarypower)
Courts have articulated numerous justifications for keeping immigration regulation largely within the
confines of the political branches. Some of those justifications include:
Political Question Doctrine: Federal courts generally refuse to hear cases that involve policy questions
best resolved by elected officials. The logic is that elected officials are more accountable to the public and can best represent
the public’s interests. Elected officials are also more likely to understand the political implications of their decisions. The connection
between immigration and foreign affairs, national security, and similar policy-related fields has often resulted in courts invoking this
doctrine.
Lack of Capacity: Courts are designed to adjudicate legal issues and simply lack the institutional
capacity to make political judgments. Immigration law is inherently political because it’s created entirely within the political
branches. Any judicial invalidation of immigration statutes almost always requires some amount of “legislating from the bench” and,
even still, courts simply do not have the ability to remedy the potentially far-reaching political, social, and economic effects of a ruling
that goes against statutory law.4
Uniformity: The specifics of immigration (how many, who gets admitted, who gets deported, etc.) are
regulated by federal-level political-branch policies. If lower courts become too involved in this process
and craft unique statutory interpretations, there is a strong likelihood of an inconsistent immigration
system that varies from one jurisdiction to another. This would arguably be in direct violation of the
Constitution, which requires a “uniform rule of naturalization.” Such a result would make it difficult for
citizens to change the system if so desired. Aliens would also find it difficult to navigate the system. 
Efficiency: From a resource perspective, a court-run immigration system would be problematic. Judges are already grappling with the
ever-escalating onslaught of immigration cases; reducing the authority of the political branches to easily remove or exclude aliens would
obviously increase the caseload.
Immigration Enforcement Is Not Punishment: The Supreme Court has held that due process protections apply when an
individual faces punishment in the form of deprivation of life, liberty, or property, but that an alien being returned to his homeland or
denied entry to the United States is not being punished and therefore cannot expect the courts to grant him these protections. Deportation
and exclusion is simply an administrative procedure.
History: The great weight of legal authority is in support of judicial deference to the political branches
on the issue of immigration. The concept of stare decisis, which stands for the principle that past holdings should be respected
by the courts, ensures that the plenary power doctrine cannot easily be abandoned.
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The courts will never get a test case – they can’t see an immigration case unless its granted
by the Attorney general

Slocum 7 (Brian, Assistant Professor of Law, Florida Coastal School of Law. J.D. @  Harvard Law School,
“Reforming U.S. Immigration  Policy: Courts vs. The Political Branches: Immigration "Reform" and The Battle for
the Future of Immigration Law,” 5 Geo. J.L. & Pub. Pol'y 509, Lexis)
The judiciary’s efforts in undermining the reforms of the political branches have been more successful
than many commentators have recognized. Nevertheless, the judiciary’s efforts have been limited by its
relatively conservative jurisprudential approach to the reforms. The administrative adjudication
process designed by the executive branch remains in place because the judiciary has not invalidated
any aspect of it on constitutional grounds.73 Similarly, the judiciary’s approach to the reforms of
judicial review has been subject to the inherent limitations of undermining reform through non-
constitutional decisions. A narrow statutory interpretation, even one produced by applying a canon of
statutory interpretation, is only permissible if the narrow interpretation is at least plausible. 74 Because the
judiciary has limited itself to statutory, rather than constitutional holdings, there is no right to judicial
review in many important immigration cases. Often, for example, the contested issue will not be
whether the alien is removable (on the basis of a criminal conviction, for example) but whether the
alien should be granted a waiver or relief from removal, which almost always requires a favorable
exercise of discretion by the Attorney General.75 In order to receive the relief termed “cancellation of
removal,” for example, the alien must establish both that she is eligible for the relief and that she merits a
favorable exercise of discretion.76 Under the REAL ID Act, a question of whether the Attorney General
correctly interpreted a statutory requirement for relief is reviewable by courts as a legal question.77 As courts
have correctly recognized, however, the current judicial review provision, 8 U.S.C. § 1252(a)(2)(B), provides
that the ultimate discretionary decision whether to grant relief from deportation is not reviewable.78
Considering the lack of independence in the administrative adjudication process, the vesting of
complete and unreviewable discretion in the Attorney General regarding whether an alien should be
allowed to reside in this country has understandably troubled immigration scholars.

Congress would never uphold Supreme court decisions – history proves

Slocum 7 (Brian, Assistant Professor of Law, Florida Coastal School of Law. J.D. @  Harvard Law School,
“Reforming U.S. Immigration  Policy: Courts vs. The Political Branches: Immigration "Reform" and The Battle for
the Future of Immigration Law,” 5 Geo. J.L. & Pub. Pol'y 509, Lexis)
Both a decision striking down aspects of the administrative adjudication process on due process grounds and
a decision requiring habeas corpus review of discretionary determinations would be consistent with the
plenary power doctrine. The government does not receive the benefit of the doctrine in cases involving
due process or a claim that a statute violates a structural provision of the Constitution rather than an
amendment to the Constitution.83 In addition, such decisions would be relatively modest because they
would allow Congress to decide substantive immigration issues, and would thus not interfere with the
foreign affairs concerns underlying the plenary power doctrine.84 Of course, the judiciary would not
need to make bold constitutional decisions if the political branches enacted reforms that were designed
to improve the immigration system.85 As other immigration commentators have argued, Congress should
reform judicial review and provide for judicial review of all aspects of a final order of deportation.86
Unfortunately, if recent history is any indication, Congress’s efforts at reform of judicial review are
not likely to involve attempts to improve the judicial review process for aliens. Indeed, recent legislative
proposals have included provisions that would consolidate immigration appeals in the U.S. Court of Appeals
for the Federal Circuit or would provide for a screening process under which a single federal appellate judge
could deny a petition for review.87
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No Solvency – Congress will pre-empt


O’Brien 3, professor of Government and Foreign Affairs at the University of Virginia,
David, Storm Center: The Supreme Court in American Politics Sixth Edition pg 359)
Even more direct attacks appear possible. Under Article III, Congress is authorized "to make
exceptions" to the appellate jurisdiction of the Court. That authorization has been viewed as a way of
denying the Court review of certain kinds of cases. But Congress succeeded only once, with the 1868
repeal of jurisdiction over writs of habeas corpus, which the Court upheld in Ex pane McCardle (1869).
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AFF: International Law Bad – Democracy
International law is profoundly anti-democratic; it institutionalizes a worldview that denies
democratic decision-making. None of their defenses of I-law account for it
Rubenfeld, 04, Robert R. Slaughter Professor, Yale Law School,
Jed, December, New York University Law Review, 79 N.Y.U.L. Rev. 1971, p. 2017-2019
International law is antidemocratic. The existing international governance organizations are famous for their undemocratic
opacity, remoteness from popular or representative politics, elitism, and unaccountability. 128  [*2018]  International governance
institutions and their officers tend to be bureaucratic, diplomatic, technocratic - everything but democratic. That is why
internationalization, as the sociologist and former German member of parliament Sir Ralf Dahrendorf puts
it, "almost invariably means a loss of democracy." 129 In the last ten years or so, it became common for internationalists
to reply to this problem by pointing to the growing influence of non-governmental organizations (NGO) in international law circles, as if
these equally unaccountable, self-appointed, unrepresentative NGOs somehow exemplified world public opinion, and as if the
antidemocratic nature of international governance were a kind of small accountability hole that these NGOs could plug. 130 This
invocation of NGOs as world democratizers served only to highlight how out of touch many internationalists are with what would be
actually necessary to democratize international law. The brute fact is that there is no world democratic polity today; the
largest entities in which democracy exists are nation-states. As a result, international law can and does
frequently conflict with democracy. The problem is not only institutional - a matter of making international bodies more
"transparent" or "accountable." The problem is also ideological. There is an antidemocratic worldview built
into the fundamental premises of a good deal of international law thought and  [*2019]  practice. This
worldview finds its clearest expression in the international human rights discourse, where the views of
democratic majorities in a given country or, indeed, throughout the entire world, will be said to be
"simply irrelevant" to the validity and authority of international law :   The international lawyer [holds] that
there are certain things a society cannot choose to do to itself. Where ... human rights are concerned, international law looks past the
fiction which underlies the social contract metaphor and prescribes rules regarding individual citizens. The views of political
majorities are simply irrelevant to the validity of such rules. Indeed, these rules are only meaningful as counter-
majoritarian rights ... . 131   Democracy does not have much standing here. Consider how this view would regard the
controversy over the death penalty, which the "international community" condemns as a violation of human
rights law. Actual public opinion in Europe, however, tends to favor capital punishment, in some countries at
about the same rate as in the United States. 132 For the "international lawyer," however, this fact is "simply
irrelevant." Because the "social contract" is a "fiction" - which means, presumably, that not every individual really consents to the
state's authority - "international law" is somehow entitled to step into the breach and, where "human rights are concerned," to "prescribe
[the] rules.”

Global democracy is key to prevent war and extinction


Diamond, 95, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution,
Larry, December,Promoting Democracy in the 1990s, http://wwics.si.edu/subsites/ccpdc/pubs/di/1.htm
OTHER THREATS This hardly exhausts the lists of threats to our security and well-being in the coming years and decades. In the
former Yugoslavia nationalist aggression tears at the stability of Europe and could easily spread. The flow of illegal drugs intensifies
through increasingly powerful international crime syndicates that have made common cause with authoritarian regimes and have utterly
corrupted the institutions of tenuous, democratic ones. Nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons continue to
proliferate. The very source of life on Earth, the global ecosystem, appears increasingly endangered.
Most of these new and unconventional threats to security are associated with or aggravated by the
weakness or absence of democracy, with its provisions for legality, accountability, popular sovereignty,
and openness. LESSONS OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY The experience of this century offers important lessons . Countries
that govern themselves in a truly democratic fashion do not go to war with one another. They do not
aggress against their neighbors to aggrandize themselves or glorify their leaders. Democratic governments do not
ethnically "cleanse" their own populations, and they are much less likely to face ethnic insurgency. Democracies do not
sponsor terrorism against one another. They do not build weapons of mass destruction to use on or to threaten
one another. Democratic countries form more reliable, open, and enduring trading partnerships. In the long run they offer better and
more stable climates for investment. They are more environmentally responsible because they must answer to
their own citizens, who organize to protest the destruction of their environments. They are better bets to honor international treaties
since they value legal obligations and because their openness makes it much more difficult to breach agreements in secret. Precisely
because, within their own borders, they respect competition, civil liberties, property rights, and the rule of law, democracies are the only
reliable foundation on which a new world order of international security and prosperity can be built.
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AFF: International Law Bad – Terrorism
Reliance on CIL would restrict the ability of the President to have complete control the
military – results in conflicts with our national security
Paulsen 9 (Michael Stokes, Distinguished University Chair and Prof of Law @ the University
of St. Thomas School of Law. “The Constitutional Power to Interpret International Law” The
Yale Law Journal)
The arguments against reliance on customary international law as a source of restriction on U.S.
military action with respect to members of al Qaeda and the Taliban are almost literally
overwhelming. No responsible U.S. lawyer would maintain the contrary, though as the Yoo-Delahunty
Memorandum faithfully records, some international law scholars nonetheless have suggested in academic
writing that international law forms part of the law which the President is obliged to take care to faithfully
execute, under Article II, and that the President cannot act contrary to customary international law unless he
believes its commands to be unconstitutional.188 And, of course, attacks on the lawfulness of President
Bush’s actions with respect to al Qaeda and the Taliban (and attacks on the legal analysis of this
memorandum) have continued to invoke general international law norms in such fashion. The final collection
of points in the Yoo-Delahunty Memorandum concern the President’s exclusive constitutional authority as
Commander in Chief and the relationship of that power both to international law and to domestic statutes.
First, to read international law treaties (such as the provisions of the Third Geneva Convention),
statutes of Congress (like the War Crimes Act), or customary international law as restricting
presidential authority to direct the conduct of U.S. Armed Forces in the field would be, in the words of
the memorandum, “a possible infringement on presidential discretion to direct the military.”189 Such a
construction should be avoided, the memorandum concluded (citing well-established principles of statutory
and treaty construction190), unless congressional intent to pose such a possible conflict is clear.
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AFF: International Law Bad – SOP
Courts ruling on international law violates separation of powers because it creates a law
that Congress has to abide by without consent
Kochan 3 (Donald J., Visiting Assistant Prof of Law @ George Mason University School of
Law, “Domest Courts and Growing NGO Investment in International Law: At What Cost and
Consequence to Democracy?”) http://library.findlaw.com/2003/Jan/1/247344.html
Many of the documents upon which courts are relying to identify customary international law and which
NGOs are using in court to attempt to establish liability have not been acknowledged as binding let alone
passed as law by Congress. As James Madison articulated, "[N]o foreign law should be a standard farther
than is expressly adopted."5 For example, using two Second Circuit decisions – Filartiga6 and Kadic7 – as
illustrations, each court looked to various international declarations and resolutions, including the Universal
Declaration on Human Rights, to interprete the scope of the "law of nations" under the ATS. Such references
create two problems. First, many of the sources relied, or at least partially relied, upon to determine a
controlling rule of international law have never been ratified by Congress. Worse yet, Congress
considered these declarations and resolutions and specifically chose not to accept them as binding
authority. This poses serious questions about the legitimacy of their use as sources of law. In Filartiga, [T]he
Second Circuit alluded to certain international treaties on human rights, including the American Convention
on Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and the European Convention for
the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. The first two of these were among the four
treaties on human rights submitted by President Carter to the Senate for its advice and consent in 1978 [and
the United States was not involved in the third]. Neither in the court's opinion nor in the amicus brief filed in
the Filartiga case jointly by the Departments of Justice and State, was reference made to the reservations,
declarations, understandings, and statements that President Carter recommended that the Senate include in its
resolution of advice and consent. The effect of these qualifications of the two treaties would be to render
them non-self-executing for the United States, requiring implementing legislation to become effective
as law in the United States.8 The Filartiga court did not even discuss or recognize either Congress's
failure to ratify these documents or the affirmative and explicit concerns voiced by both Congress and
the President in relation to the content of these documents. Yet it seems clear, especially in light of
Congress's power to define offenses against the law of nations, that these sentiments should restrict thecourts'
reliance upon such documents as an authoritative statement of the law.9 Congress's actions on
the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,10 the American Convention on Human Rights, or
on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights are not isolated situations. In fact, Congress has failed to
ratify the vast majority of human rights treaties sponsored by the United Nations.11 This record indicates a
general unwillingness on the part of the United States to recognize broad principles of human rights as
controlling legal authority.12 For the courts to ignore this reality and insist that these documents form a
foundation for ascertaining the "law of nations" component of the ATS is to harm Congress in two
ways. First, it ignores Congress's power and prerogative to refrain from codifying certain principles or
norms into U.S. law. Second, it restricts congressional power to legislate in a manner contrary to these
principles or norms. By proclaiming that this principle or norm is universal and binding upon allstates (or, in
the case of Kadic, all states and some individuals), the court is stating that an obligation Congress has
been specifically unwilling to accept will now bind the United States and its Congress.
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AFF: International Law Bad – Constitution
Constitution comes before international law – there is no precedent to uphold
Paulsen 9 (Michael Stokes, Distinguished University Chair and Prof of Law @ the University
of St. Thomas School of Law. “The Constitutional Power to Interpret International Law” The
Yale Law Journal)
My thesis in this Essay is a straightforward one and, from the perspective of basic postulates of U.S.
constitutional law, should be an obvious one: for the United States, the Constitution is supreme over
international law. International law, to the extent it issues determinate commands or obligations in
conflict with the U.S. Constitution, is unconstitutional. Where there exists a conflict between the U.S.
Constitution’s assignments of rights, powers, and duties, and the obligations of international law, U.S.
government officials must, as a matter of legal obligation, side with the Constitution and against
international law, because the Constitution, and not international law, is what they have sworn to uphold. As
a matter of domestic constitutional law, U.S. law always prevails over inconsistent international law.

The impact is extinction


Henkin, 88, Professor of Law at Columbia (Louis, Atlantic Community Qtly, Spring)

Lawyers, even constitutional lawyers, argue “technically,” with references to text and principles of
construction, drawing lines, and insisting on sharp distinctions. Such discussion sometimes seems ludicrous
when it addresses issues of life and death and Armaggedon. But behind the words of the Constitution
and the technicalities of constitutional construction lie the basic values of the United States–limited
government even at the cost of inefficiency; safeguards against autarchy and oligarchy; democratic values
represented differently in the presidency and in Congress, as well as in the intelligent participation and
consent of the governed. In the nuclear age the technicalities of constitutionalism and of constitutional
jurisprudence safeguard also the values and concerns of civilized people committed to human survival.
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AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Leadership
Only a strong, active Congress can garner the public support essential for US global
leadership

Zoellick 00, former Deputy Secretary of State,


Robert, “Congress and the Making of US Foreign Policy,” Survival, Winter, p. 23)

Today, America's leaders must garner public support for a redirected US role in the world. The task is not
just to rise to an immediate challenge or counter a specific threat. The US has a perpetual foreign-policy mission that
must be exercised in many quarters of the globe, every day, in countless ways. This mission necessitates the complex management of
alliances and coalitions. It requires overhauling old institutions to perform new tasks. As part of a democracy and a
republic, it is inevitable--indeed vital--that the US Congress be involved in deciding these questions of
strategy, direction, commitment, and allocation of resources. Without Congressional support, the
Executive cannot sustain long-term policies. Engagement of the Congress is also a key step in drawing
in the public.
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AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Human Rights
Strong Congressional power is essential in restraining executive actions that threaten
human rights protections globally and the civil liberties of US citizens

Fuerth 04, research professor of international affairs at the George Washington University,
Leon, May 20, Financial Times, http://www.forwardengagement.org/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=46)
The extreme abuses of prisoners in Iraq were no mere anomaly. They were the predictable consequence
of the unchecked exercise of power, beginning not with military prison guards or intelligence contractors
but at the highest levels of the US government. Following the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001, the
administration created a space where neither the law of the land nor the law of nations operates. This
is a region where only the will of the president holds sway, as elaborated by the attorney-general. It is a
domain where the power of the executive is not subject to effective monitoring or to legal intervention.
Under this system, the good name of US soldiers and of the nation has been entrusted to people who can
invent the rules as they go along. That is one reason why legitimate questions are being posed about whether
the practices used in Iraq's prisons were based on the earlier treatment of detainees in Afghanistan or at
Guantanamo Bay. It is a basic principle of leadership that responsibility must be linked inseparably to
authority. Even if those at the bottom of the chain of command acted entirely on their own, responsibility for
their actions does not end with them, but extends upwards to their superiors. If it turns out that their superiors
let it be known, by word or gesture, that they sanctioned this behaviour, then they, too, are complicit.
Moreover, accountability cannot stop even with the military leadership or the intelligence managers. It
continues on, inexorably, to those at much higher levels who are responsible for establishing the framework
within which these events occurred, even if they were totally unaware of them until recently. What has
happened in Iraq took place according to principles that are toxic for democracies. The doctrines of
executive authority propounded by the Bush administration endanger not only the human rights of
foreigners, but also the civil liberties of Americans. Remember that if the Supreme Court rules in favour of
the administration in the case of Jose Padilla, detained on suspicion of plotting with al-Qaeda, it will mean
that American citizens as well as foreigners can be locked away beyond the reach of US justice. The
executive branch is operating at or beyond its constitutional limits, without effective counteraction by
either of the other two branches of government. Our federal judiciary is increasingly beholden to the
conservative philosophy of successive Republican administrations. Congress, in fact, is potentially more
effective than the courts because it has far more flexible powers for engaging the administration in
point-by-point oversight. But Congress is much weakened as the result of a long series of retreats.
Members of Congress who decry the loss of their exclusive constitutional power to declare war must
remember that it is Congress that let this power slide away. Members of Congress who believe that the
institution is being railroaded into hasty action, as it was in the case of the Patriot Act, must acknowledge that
they agreed to the voting procedures that allowed this to happen. Members of Congress who deplore flaws in
the US national intelligence system need to recognise that they had the authority to investigate before rather
than after the nation suffered the consequences. And members of Congress of both parties, who are now
angry that they were the last to know what was going on in Iraq, must realise that this negligent treatment by
the executive is just the latest episode in an abusive relationship that Congress itself has helped enable.
Repairing that relationship is something only Congress can do. It must effectively use the power of the
purse as a choke-chain. It must demand timely and adequate information from the executive, so as to make
possible vigorous oversight. It must not allow the executive to create regions in which its use of public
resources cannot be challenged by those who appropriate them. Only Congress is in a position to fill the
constitutional void that has been created by an administration eager to expand its powers, and a
judiciary unwilling to challenge them. Congress must use the bipartisan anger its members now feel as the
starting point for urgently needed bipartisan action to restore the balance of forces in our government.
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AFF: Plenary Powers Good – Tyranny
Ending plenary powers establishes a tyrannical judiciary

Feere 9, Legal Policy Analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies


(Jon, “Plenary Power: Should Judges Control U.S. Immigration Policy?” Center for Immigration Studies, February,
http://www.cis.org/plenarypower)
This attempt at erasing the plenary power must not go unaddressed. Without the plenary power
doctrine, the judicial branch — rather than elected members of the political branches — would be in
control of much of the nation’s immigration system as courts apply constitutional or “constitutional-
like” standards to all exclusion and deportation cases. Theoretically, the ability of the political branches
to determine who should be welcomed to our shores, who should stay, and who should go could be
almost completely abolished in favor of a judge-regulated immigration system. Immigration policy
decisions would be less likely to be shaped through the political process and would therefore lessen the
power of the electorate to control the nation’s future and to decide who we are as a nation and who we
will be. Furthermore, detailed political considerations appropriate to expert agency officials may not be
adequately considered by judges who are generally without the requisite immigration expertise. This is good
for neither citizens nor aliens. Fortunately, the plenary power doctrine rests on a solid foundation and
will remain strong, provided that the political branches steadfastly rebuff any attempts to weaken it.
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AFF: AT: International Law Good – General

( ) It’s impossible to quantify the strength of international rights norms – means there’s no
way to assess the impact of their advantage
Douglass Cassel, Director of the Center for International Human Rights at Northwestern University School of
Law, Spring 2001, Chicago Journal of International Law, 2 Chi. J. Int'l L. 121, p. 131
Quantifying the ultimate benefit for rights protection of all these interacting processes, or even
demonstrating a clear qualitative impact, would require an enormously sophisticated methodology,
coupled with a herculean effort to gather a range of data, much of which may not exist or may not be
reliable. Perhaps some day such an ambitious research agenda will be attempted. In the meantime,
judgment, based on experience, and tested for plausibility against the leading international relations-
international law theories, is the best guide for policy.

( ) Lack of an established framework for adjudicating international law means judges will
make random and unpredictable decisions applying it – they can’t establish a coherent
precedent
Ernesto J. Sanchez, ASIL member and law clerk at the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington D.C., J.D.,
University of Pennsylvania, December 2005, Connecticut Law Review, 38 Conn. L. Rev. 185, p. 190
Foreign laws, however, do not stem from the same philosophical base, but from different circumstances,
philosophies, traditions, and ideas. A foreign law does not reflect an American constitutional principle or
tradition, but merely represents the needs and characteristics of a different society and culture, even though
some of these traits may outwardly resemble American ones. Consequently, foreign laws' relevance to the
circumstances surrounding an American legal issue with no external implications whatsoever remains
quite questionable. And the range of these laws, and the social, cultural, and legal concepts they represent,
is simply so vast and diverse that a judge could probably find some foreign law supporting any outcome
when considering a specific issue. To date, Justice Breyer has offered what appears to be the most detailed
framework for an internationalist approach to judicial decisionmaking -- reference to "standards roughly
comparable to our own constitutional standards in roughly comparable circumstances." 25 Given each
national legal system's own unique characteristics and idiosyncrasies, the absence of any more specific
guidelines for a judge to determine how to apply non-American legal principles to purely domestic
issues, utilizing a method entirely consistent with the Constitution and the ideas it reflects, remains
problematic.

( ) Other countries don’t model bad U.S. practices, and international law is worse for
modeling because it’s inherently anti-democratic
John O. McGinnis, Professor of Law at the Northwestern University School of Law, and Ilya Somin, Assistant
Professor of Law at the George Mason University School of Law, 2006, George Mason University Law And
Economics Research Paper Series, Forthcoming Stanford Law Review, online: http://ssrn.com/abstract_id=929174,
accessed December 9, 2006
The only noteworthy counterargument is that US norms will have more harmful effects than those of
raw international law, yet other nations will still copy them. But both parts of this seem doubtful. First,
US law emerges from a democratic process that creates at least some likelihood that they will cause less
harm than rules that emerge from the nondemocratic processes that create international law,. Second,
other democratic nations can use their own political processes to screen out American norms that might
cause harm of copied.
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AFF: AT: International Law Good – Solves Conflict
( ) International law is irrelevant to solving conflicts -
Posner 9, Prof of Law @ U of Chicago
Eric, “Think Again: International Law” Foreign Policy Online, September 17th 2009)
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/09/17/think_again_international_law?page=0,2
Not necessarily. International law is only as strong as the states with an interest in upholding it.
Ambitious schemes that seek to transcend countries' interests routinely fail. The 1928 Kellogg-Briand
Pact outlawed war shortly before the worst war in world history. The League of Nations was bypassed and
ignored. The United Nations has never lived up to its ambitions and has only proved effective for narrow
projects after expectations were scaled down to a realistic level. The greatest achievement of international
law -- the modern trade system institutionalized in the World Trade Organization -- depends for its
vitality on the good faith of a handful of great powers relying on weak self-help remedies.

Posner 9, Prof of Law @ U of Chicago


Eric, “Think Again: International Law” Foreign Policy Online, September 17th 2009)
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/09/17/think_again_international_law?page=0,2

Wishful thinking. Academic research suggests that international human rights treaties have had little or
no impact on the actual practices of states. The Genocide Convention has not prevented genocides; the
Torture Convention has not stopped torture. The same can be said for the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights, the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, and a
host of treaties meant to advance the rights of women and children. States that already respect human
rights join human rights treaties because doing so is costless for them. States that do not respect human rights
simply ignore their treaty obligations. The evidence shows that human rights are best in those states that are
wealthiest, leading many scholars to speculate that the best way to promote human rights is to promote
growth. This can be done through liberal trade and immigration policies, and perhaps (though this is
controversial) carefully targeted aid that is conditioned on institutional reform. One simple step, unlikely to
be taken, would be for Europe and the United States to eliminate domestic agricultural subsidies that reduce
demand for agricultural exports from poor countries.
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AFF: AT: International Law Good – Climate Change
( ) International law doesn’t solve climate change – too many political issues
Posner 9, Prof of Law @ U of Chicago
Eric, “Think Again: International Law” Foreign Policy Online, September 17th 2009)
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/09/17/think_again_international_law?page=0,2
The challenge for governments is finding areas of international cooperation where interests converge enough
that states are able to overcome mutual suspicion and commit themselves to complying with their
obligations. Real problems, such as climate change, must await propitious international political
conditions, which will often take longer than good policy and science indicate is optimal. Promoting
international law for its own sake, in the hope that eventually countries will go along, has never been
successful.

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