Conversa com Jack

Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:51:20)

hello
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:51:30)
hey man how are you
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:51:39)
are you on line???
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:51:44)
yes
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:52:48)
good
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:52:56)
ok
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:53:17)
i don't know if you have time to read the e-mails that i sent to you today ?
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:53:42)
yes i have read it this morning
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:54:23)
you want to bulid a cement plant
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:55:10)
exactly what happens is that i'm just coordinating this contact with the possible
suppliers, and the other persons that are working with me mix up the things
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:55:26)
because the interest initially spoken is to build a cement factory
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:55:34)
to produce regular portland cement
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:55:54)
after this factory is done they will produce the other Mortar product after
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:56:00)
and the capacity is 300000 t/ year
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:56:15)
have you just call me?
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-28 23:57:31)
yes i try to call in your ofice but i believe you was away at the time
Jack lv(2011-04-28 19:58:48)
i feel so sorry about that.
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:00:17)
can you tell me what's meaning of "CP 1 AND CP5 "
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:0:19)
come do'nt worry
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:1:4)
yes i was unhappy on this specifications this CP1 AND CP5 is brazilian standards for
portland cement i will try to find a international standard to present for you
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:01:41)
ok
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:02:12)
i am finding it on the internet but i find nothing
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:3:20)
yes i will try to find this CP 1 AND CP5 specification in chemical percentages for be
more technical for you
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:08:04)
by the way this morning, i talked with my college about general investment of this
capacity cement plant, you have to invest about 4600000 USD for machinery
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:09:24)
and you have get license of protection envirment from government
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:09:50)
because of dust pollution
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:10:35)
This investment is for this plant in the capacity informed?,and is for the machinery and
the project or just the machiney ?
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:11:05)
for all machinery
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:12:37)
ok and the project engineering costs will be how much more ?
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:15:27)
you can assumed cost of engineering is about 1/3 of all machinery, because some of
machine supplier give you a relative cheap after-service.
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:17:59)
soo just offcourse estimating for this 300000tons per year plant, we will invest in
machiney and project around USD 5 milion + 1,6 milion in engineering = soo around 7
million
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:19:09)
ok
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:19:32)
is a very interesting price
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:20:13)
interesting?
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:25:10)
yes the price of this project, in comparasion with brazilian or american plants is more
afordable
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:26:30)
nowadays a problem that we are having in brazil is because the economy grows up form
a night to day and so the company that have the know how to make for a example
cement plants puts the price on the tops for his knowledge, because cement in a
vibrating economy is a crucial product
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:27:31)
haha, so china machine are more popular around world
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:28:12)
As you mentioned, the problem is not money,the matter is about technology
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:29:43)
the especializated companys over here that produces machinerys and engineering
projects,for cement plant, thinks that their knowledge are unique in the wold, that they
can put the price oversized, that the market will pay, but they are wrong, china for
example is the world leader in cement production and trought this china will offcourse
have the best knowledgement in cement factory plants indeed
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:31:35)
this is the main idea that i'm trying to bring toward on this investment group that i'm
work within, make then to belive that they can buy a chinese project, with a affordable
price, with a good delivery time, and offcourse an advanced technology
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:31:52)
so I think our starting point is which country's techonology we should use, if you wants
to use china technology, I will put my hands of contacting with china design
insitute.Frankly speaking,we had better to cooperate with design insitute,if we really
start business relationship, i am serious
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:36:8)
In technology i do already signed China as a standard, i get in touch with some contacts
in india and europe and they say that the chinese standards and process is the most
advanced for my kind of application and necessity in this project, because of this i start
to look forward to chinese producers as you
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:38:12)
ok,i got your meaning.
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:39:27)
when do you plan to come to china?
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:41:0)
exactly, right now jack i will pass this price idea to this investors, is a good begining ,
and I ask you, for the Desing Institute and the machinery producers i do believe they
will need several informations for stablish a final offer and beggin some negotiation
within, can you arrange this for us ?
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:42:00)
i try to arrange it, so i want to how long you leave for me to prepare.
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:42:27)
i want to know how long you leave for me to prepare your coming.
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:44:11)
igor, it is your time to have good rest, you have stayed many nights,I thought.
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:44:57)
Tomorrow i will get in a meeting with those people, to present the initial program, they
will at the same time present theyr necessity, about time, i hope tomorrow i will get a
fixed time agenda for the project start and the delivery time
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:46:16)
i believe tomorrow i will be able to say: Jack, i need to make this project happe in 6 or
10 months, you are able to do it, soo that is the expectation
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:47:21)
if all the works can finished by myself, i will use my life to finish, but you know it is
complex project.haha
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:50:25)
ok, do'nt need to use the life , just your wisdom to turn into reality i believe
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:53:23)
be more serious, i can manufacture machines 6 months, but all pants cant run within six
month, because your country's season's problem, project process wont be qucick as my
country.I dont want to offend you, it is just my experience, in hot day, people dont work
quickly, and rain day, people cant work
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:56:48)
yes i just say the time bellow, as a single reference,
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:57:15)
don't attend to this we have for this factory be workin several factors to work within
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 0:59:7)
the agenda will be, the time needed to produce the machines, and stablish the project,
the transport time, the customs time in brazil, the transportation in brazil, the assembly
time, the commissioning time and later is done, this you can be aware that i'm thinking
in each step that will be necessary
Jack lv(2011-04-28 20:59:10)
ok i know , it is too late. you had better have a good rest.
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 1:1:36)
ok jack don't worry , untill we finish this project this will be my routine
Jack lv(2011-04-28 21:04:04)
good luck
Igor Halterbeck(2011-4-29 1:5:52)
soo thats it, tomorrow i will be on this project meeting, and we will talk again about it
ok ?
Jack lv(2011-04-28 21:06:15)
ok,no problem