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MOTION TO INTERVENE, BEFORE THE HONORABLE JOSEPH C. WILKINSON, JR., UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE
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Civil Action No. 10-1663 Section F(2)
Jones Walker By: CARL D. ROSENBLUM, ESQ. Place St. Charles 201 St. Charles Avenue Suite 5100 New Orleans, Louisiana 70170
U.S. Attorneys Office By: PETER M. MANSFIELD, ESQ. Hale Boggs Federal Building 500 Poydras Street, Room 210 New Orleans, Louisiana 70130
By: DR. ORLY TAITZ, ESQ. 29839 Santa Margarita Parkway Suite 100 Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
2 APPEARANCES (Contd.):
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Cindy Usner
Sherryl Robinson c/o U.S. District Court 500 Poydras Street, Room C151 New Orleans, Louisiana 70130 (504) 589-7721
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case that Im going to call is Hornbeck v. Salazar, and the reason Im calling it is because my staff tells me that
Dr. Taitz who is the proposed Intervenor has appeared and come all the way in from California.
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California, I had my staff call the local lawyers for the other parties, let them know you were here, and tell them that I intended to let you have your say. MS. TAITZ: THE COURT: I greatly appreciate it, Your Honor. In the future though, I have to tell you
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that you need to study the local rules and comply with them. MS. TAITZ: THE COURT: Yes, sir. I also -Well do this
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DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: Taitz? MS. TAITZ: THE COURT:
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P R O C E E D I N G S (Wednesday, May 11, 2011) Be seated, please. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Since you came all the way from
And I also just received, a few minutes ago, your Motion for Leave to file a reply memo, which I intend to sign. But in perfect candor, I havent read it yet. DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: All right.
Im not going to rule on the motion orally, as I ordinarily might, and then Im going to read it when I finish. MS. TAITZ: THE COURT: later, okay? Thank you, Your Honor.
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proposed Intervenor. THE COURT: All right. Good morning Your Honor, Carl
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Salazar.
Rosenblum on behalf of the Plaintiffs. THE COURT: Good morning. Good morning Your Honor, Peter
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Mansfield with the U.S. Attorneys Office, here on behalf of Defendants, all the Federal Defendants, including Secretary
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MS. TAITZ: THE COURT: Okay. MS. TAITZ: MR. ROSENBLUM: MR. MANSFIELD:
For the Intervenor, we have the proposed Intervenor. Im Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, and I am the
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Motion to Intervene because what I have found out that the Hornbeck case is much more than a case of moratorium on deep water drilling.
What Ive found out that this is a case where the administration, the federal government, have been impeding -(Cell phone ringing in courtroom.) I greatly apologize. Im sorry.
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THE COURT: DR. TAITZ:
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oil and drill -- gas and oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico, which caused significant loss of jobs and significant damage to the economy of the region. I have seen similar actions in other regions of the
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United States and specifically in the State of California, where I reside, where I am a taxpayer that were similar, I would say attacks, on the economy of the region. I am an
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All right, thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. All right, Dr. Taitz, proceed. Thank you, Your Honor.
matter for the last nearly three years in a number of legal actions, and just a week ago I had a hearing in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on a similar issue. And what I have found is that -THE COURT:
papers was you had one in the Central District of California. DR. TAITZ: Its in the Ninth Circuit Court of
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cases raising this issue, the Presidents citizenship and other cases around the country? DR. TAITZ: Eligibility. I have, well, one case in
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California which is currently at the level of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: to show Your Honor. THE COURT: All right. Okay, all right. Go ahead.
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THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: Right. THE COURT:
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I was granted an oral hearing -Uh-huh.
So Dr. Taitz, you have other cases My understanding from reading your
-- which was conducted on May the 2nd. Okay, but my point is that you have other
oral argument in the Ninth Circuit last week? DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: Yes, yes.
THE COURT:
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to get any affidavits from experts yet. THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: All right. Go ahead.
dealt with a decision by the district judge that was made earlier, and so I could only talk about the issues that were relevant to prior decision. And what I have found, this is actually -THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: What did the district judge do? Well, its really interesting.
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Originally, the district judge stated that this case -THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: Just tell me in one word. Well, originally he said that its going
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DR. TAITZ:
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They were -What, last week? They were on May the 2nd, yes. Did you present all of this? It was right after, however --
Was that
his defense attorneys as his clerk and he changed his mind and he said that he no longer has jurisdiction, and he dismissed the case.
jurisdiction and thats why I feel that its so important for this case to be heard. I believe that this is the most
important case we have today, and most important case in the history of this nation, because we have -THE COURT: This is a federal court, just like that
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finds there is no jurisdiction, that I wont have any jurisdiction either? DR. TAITZ: Well, actually the Ninth Circuit dealt
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DR. TAITZ: DR. TAITZ: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: Yes.
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Okay. So, he dismissed the case? He dismissed the case as to -For lack of jurisdiction? Is that my phone? Yes, I thought I did.
10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with a slightly different case, and they were stating that there were no damages.
This case is proceeding and in this case the Plaintiffs do have damages.
now, so that there is jurisdiction and thats why this case is so unique, because damages are here and I am here to show why those Plaintiffs have those damages, because we have an
individual who is occupying the position of the President and Commander in Chief using a forged birth certificate according to two experts and I have provided their affidavits.
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All right. And if I can just show --
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policies have affected the Plaintiffs and have affected many other industries around the nation, and thats why it is so important to get to the root of this problem and once and for all get all of the evidence and for the nation to see all of the evidence, and to decide on the issue of eligibility and decide if the orders, and in this case moratorium orders to withhold permits for drilling like in this case, if any policies involving persecutions of Civil Rights attorneys like me, if any of those were valid. THE COURT: DR. TAITZ:
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DR. TAITZ:
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Yes, you can. Yes. Sure, I understand. Yes. And what I wanted to show
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just to show what Mr. Obama has provided to the nation, claiming to be a true and correct copy of his birth certificate. This is a true and correct copy of a birth
Mr. Obama.
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And you can see that a true and correct copy had to You can see how its turning yellow with What Mr. Obama
provided is on paper, green safety paper that was not used in 1961. There are no borders, its just a computer composite
where bits and pieces of different images and different birth certificates were put together to create this image. unbelievable. To me, I believe that there has to be an emergency hearing on this, in that we have an individual sitting in the Its
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12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 White House using a forged birth certificate, and based on this forged birth certificate, he is occupying the highest position in the land, affecting so many industries, so many parties. You can see also the numbers. This woman, her birth
Obama claims that the number that was assigned to him is 641, and his was signed on August the 8th, and again, and you can see in the affidavit, this is completely impossible. Its out of order.
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here that the birth certificates in those years were typewritten; they had to be justified to the left. Here, its
is using, here is a statement from yet another expert showing that when it was created, when you open it in Adobe Illustrator, you can see the grammatical layers. You can see
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how it was actually created, where they took bits and pieces of different birth certificates. You can see part of the
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signature of Stanley Ann Dunham and they might have used a birth certificate from -- for his sister, Maya Soetoro, and just added -- at that time his mother was signing documents as Stanley Ann D. Soetoro. It looks like Soetoro was removed and
they added Dunham Obama, and thats how they came with Stanley
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completely wrong.
And in the last one you can see that what Mr. Obama
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This is clearly a forgery.
Your Honor, this is, I feel that this is an assault on the system of justice in this country to allow somebody with forged documents, with forged and invalid identification documents to continue in the position of the President and without any discovery on the part of any judge or any court. THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: All right.
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the proposed intervention doesnt satisfy Rule 24(b). THE COURT: All right, sir. Thats all the response that I need
to make.
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MR. MANSFIELD: MR. MANSFIELD: THE COURT: MR. MANSFIELD: THE COURT: MR. ROSENBLUM:
anything that you want to say? Only this, Your Honor. I appreciate
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the Court calling us and letting us know that we were going to have a hearing.
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Thank you, Your Honor. Dr. Taitz, youre welcome. Thank you, Your Honor. Lets see.
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local rule that requires it. Right, Dr. Taitz? DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT:
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THE COURT: MR. ROSENBLUM: THE COURT: MR. ROSENBLUM: THE COURT:
As Your Honor knows, the Hornbeck case has never We believe that any ability to
injunction.
been a lot of water under the bridge since that time. So, the suggestion that were seeking damages is
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simply not correct in this case. Do you think -Now, we do have the contempt motion,
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Judge, on the attorneys fees that youre looking at. I have it. Thats the only thing that I would
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Claims.
This case was asking for a permanent and preliminary We got the preliminary injunction and there has
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I wasnt aware. Okay. Im sorry. All right.
15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 it? Judge. the right analogy or simile to use at the moment? MR. ROSENBLUM:
Your Honor, to Judge Feldman in this case, there has been a lot of water under the bridge. we havent seen -Im not so sure at this point since
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for a couple of weeks, but its coming, Judge. THE COURT: Okay.
sensitivity.
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MR. ROSENBLUM: MR. ROSENBLUM: THE COURT: MR. ROSENBLUM: THE COURT:
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to sign the order permitting you to leave the file with us right now. DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: Thank you, Judge. Have you served these two gentlemen with
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I have indicated previously, I see. So, I understand the Courts All right. Thank you, Judge. All right.
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that its going to be on Pacer shortly, also. THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: DR. TAITZ: THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you. * * * (Hearing is Concluded)
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I certify that the foregoing is a correct transcript from the electronic sound recording of the proceeding in the above-entitled matter.
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S/Sherryl P. Robinson Sherryl P. Robinson _6/6/11_ Date
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