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Contents
13 MERS 2.0 vs. Life After MERS
By Austin Kilgore
Changes are coming to MERSCorp Inc and its system of
tracking note ownership. But will it amount to a reboot
or a replacement of MERS?
COVER STORY
22 Back in the Saddle
By Austin Kilgore
Private-label cowboys have returned
to the mortgage secondary, with new
technology to rope in prime investments.
28 Taking Another Swing
By Austin Kilgore
After more than two decades at the GSEs,
E.J. Kite brings his tech know-how to
specialty servicing.
34 All-in-One
By Scott Kersnar
With new features, PPEs are becoming the
Swiss Army knife of mortgage tech.
Features Columns
4 Dont Outsource, Rightsource
By Jon Cleaver
BPO, combined with the right
technology and strategy, can
lead to better results.
8 Broadening Business Skills
By Steve Brothers
Tech-minded executives need
strategic and business know-how
to succeed
10 Market Demand
By Aaron Cope
Why theres still room in the industry for one more LOS.
Inside
3 Editors Note
Its that time againMortgage Technology Awards
nominations are due soon.
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Its time for the best and the brightest
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We have been doing the awards for 12
years now, which shows our dedication to
recognizing the best in technology innovation in the mortgage space.
Judging will be done by myself, managing editor Austin Kilgore
and senior correspondent Scott Kersnar. The awards will be given
out during the Mortgage Bankers Associations annual convention,
which this year is in Chicago Oct. 9-12. Look also for the winners in
a special print edition of Mortgage Technology in October.
We have increased the number of awards to 11 this year and we
are debuting a couple of new ones to keep pace with an intense
amount of industry change.
The Harnessing Mobile Award recognizes the development and
implementation of mobile technology in the mortgage industry.
Weve also added the Online Originator Award to commend a lend-
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generate borrower leads and convert them into closed loans.
Others that you will remember from previous years include the
Servicer of the Year Award, Green Lender Award, Steve Fraser Vi-
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Release of the Year Award.
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We are operating in an industry characterized by change.
Corporate consolidations and liquidations, combined with lowering margins and
vanilla loan products, have forced mortgage lenders to seek ways to diferentiate
themselves in the market to remain competitive. Regardless of personal feelings on
the topic, one of the primary tools for success in this new environment has clearly
become business process outsourcing.
Traditionally, the term outsourcing simply suggested having a third-party vendor
complete a task for a lower cost than lenders could do it themselves. Over the past
decade, however, the view on outsourcing has matured along with the outsourc-
ing industry itself. The result is a growing appreciation for an enhanced quality of
service being provided through thought leadership and a targeted location strategy
in what is referred to as rightsourcing.
Rightsourcing is the evolution of traditional outsourc-
ing into a true strategic solution that embraces the goals of
the lender, creating a long-term strategic partnership rather
than simply providing a quick-fx, low-cost solution. In a
rightsourcing model, lenders are partnered with seasoned
mortgage professionals with enhanced skill sets within the
industry. A rightsourcing partner functions more like a con-
sultant beginning with a discovery of the driving forces
within the client lender. The objective is to gain an under-
standing of why the lender is seeking a partner in the frst
place. The provider must fully explore specifc pain points
as well as the end objectives in order to create a solution
that enables the lender to fundamentally improve the way
they do business while becoming more efcient.
When lenders consider ways to serve borrowers faster,
how to make lending processes more efcient or how to
achieve more out of their production staf, they should ask themselves a few ques-
tions to help understand how to get the best use of a rightsourcing partner.
Benefts of Rightsourcing
Lenders can look forward to experiencing a number of benefts from partner-
ing with a rightsourcing provider. The most obvious is reducing operational costs
through improved technology or integrated global stafng strategies. In general,
the reduction in costs is about 30% or more over the existing infrastructure. This
can vary dependent upon the provider and specifc scope of an engagement.
TechOUTLOOK by Jon Cleaver
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and strategy, can lead to better results.
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Also, rightsourcing can yield an op-
portunity to greatly improve
your production delivery
through the expanded hours
of staf availability.
Now the business does not
stop at 5 p.m. A rightsourcing
provider can potentially cre-
ate a 24/7 operating team to
support the business through-
out the night. By adjusting
the availability of employees
both domestically and glob-
ally, loan delivery times can
be drastically reduced while
service levels can be signif-
cantly increased with mini-
mal or no cost to a lender.
Another key advantage
behind utilizing rightsourc-
ing services is that it helps lenders
to utilize their third-party partners as
virtual consultants.
Rightsourcing vendors have di-
verse experiences in mortgage bank-
ing operations. This expertise in best
practices can be leveraged by the
lender on strategic projects to ensure
the best possible business decisions
are being made.
Whether the goal is to improve
turnaround delivery time or cost
measures, or a combination of both,
rightsourcers provide focused advice
and manage the back-ofce fulfll-
ment needs so that the lender can
focus on managing the front-end rev-
enue generation needs.
The Right Partner
Many lenders who have had a bad
experience with outsourcing partners
in the past point to a severe lack of
communication as the culprit.
The wrong way to utilize outsourc-
ing is an environment where the
lender tries to throw a basic need
over a wall and expect the outsourc-
ing vendor to complete it and throw
it back as a fnished product, only
checking in only occasionally to
make sure everything in the opera-
tion is going OK.
The mortgage indus-
try is very fuid and is
rapidly changing. In or-
der to be successful in
outsourcing, the lender
and vendor have to
truly integrate with one
another throughout the
lending process, creat-
ing one cohesive team
working with a shared
strategy to accomplish
a set of goals.
The problem is that
many traditional out-
sourcing vendors fail
to do this in a live pro-
duction environment,
which can result in
signifcant problems for a mortgage
lender thats relying on an outsourcer
to come through for the business.
An important component when
choosing the right partner is to de-
velop a strong governance model.
It is vital to clearly defne how each
party will communicate with each
other, while strategically dividing the
responsibilities based on the expecta-
tions communicated.
In addition, make sure to spend
the time to perform a proper due
diligence and understand who makes
up the leadership.
Is their experience in mortgage
lending focused on actually knowing
the business or are they mortgage
BPO professionals that have focused
solely on transitioning clients into an
outsourcing environment?
Finally, it is critical to inspect the
outsourcing facilities themselves. The
advice is simple: Inspect what you
expect, whether in the United States
or abroad.
This will help validate the claims of
the vendor as well as gain confdence
in their physical capabilities, security
and quality.
What to Consider
First and foremost, lenders must be
open-minded about the prospect of
rightsourcing. We operate in a glob-
al economy, and it will never revert
back to an in-house economy.
As a result, lenders should make
the business decision to research
their strategic options so they maxi-
mize their business potential.
There are a variety of outsourcing
players in the market, so it is crucial
to categorize these players. There are
still the traditional models, or BPO
1.0, that have a mess-for-less strat-
egy from an ofshore facility.
Then there are the thought-leaders
in outsourcing. These are the vendors
that have adapted to meet the needs
of the lending industry and have
evolved to become a BPO 2.0 or
next-generation rightsourcer.
These are the vendors who bring
in the added consultative value into
the process. A rightsourcer can save
money and frustration by providing
targeted expertise and guidance in
implementing and outsourcing strat-
egy to avoid common mistakes.
Bottom linethe mortgage land-
scape is continuing to change and as
lenders attempt to transform them-
selves, rightsourcing has become a
practical solution to accomplishing
such a transformation.
Reviewing the top 50 lenders today
compared to fve years ago, there are
many new names. The high-perform-
ing lenders today are running leaner
and expecting more out of their pro-
duction staf in order to maintain
their competitive edge and keep their
customers satisfed.
This is precisely where the global
strategy behind rightsourcing is tak-
ing of and can enable an organiza-
tion to transform itself to reach new
heights of success.
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Private-label cowboys have returned to
the mortgage secondary, with new
technology to rope in prime investments.
W
hen Redwood Trust began
structuring a private-label
mortgage-backed security
comprised of $238 million in jumbo
mortgages in the spring of 2010, the
mortgage real estate investment trust was
creating the frst private-label MBS deal
in the 18 months following the collapse
of the housing fnance industry.
A year later, and only one other private-
label MBS has come to marketanother
$290 million jumbo mortgage MBS,
again issued by Redwood.
But the lack of new securitizations does
not mean that private and institutional in-
vestors are no longer participating in the
mortgage secondary. While volume is still
slow, these investors are coming back.
Like the cowboys of the Old West, the
investors exploring the market are chart-
ing new territory and their activity is not
without risk. Te skilled cattleman relies
on his lariat and trusty steed. Te private
market investors has technology, data
and analytics to lasso the proft potential
from this new frontier.
By Austin Kilgore
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An emerging trend in the private
secondary market is a new interest in
whole loan trading. The buying and
selling of mortgages not packaged in
MBS deals is nothing new and is many
times referred to as the hard-money
market. Pockets of brokers and deal-
ers around the country have created
a vibrant business out of fnding and
delivering deals ranging from indi-
vidual commercial and nonconform-
ing residential loans to large portfolios
of mortgages to high net worth indi-
viduals and institutional investors like
hedge funds.
The hard-money market has
evolved with the times, explained Bri-
an OShaughnessy, the CEO of Athas
Capital Group and president of Rama
Capital Partners, both based in Cala-
basas, Calif. OShaughnessys career in
hard-money lending spans 25 years at
a variety of frms.
Hard-money lenders in 2007 typi-
cally funded deals with sub-500 FICO
scores, the deals Wall Street wouldnt
take, OShaughnessy explained. Our
average LTV was 50%. Our average
loan was a foreclosure bailout; the
worst of the worst and they paid a
higher interest rate and got a second
chance at a fresh start.
Now days its much diferent. Banks
arent lending, theyre turning down
everybody, OShaughnessy contin-
ued, noting that in 2007, the average
Fair Isaac credit score of loans in his
servicing portfolio was 492. Now, that
score is up to 698.
We are funding bank fallout. Theres
a huge chasm between the banks pro-
gram and ours, but theres nothing in
between because theres no secondary
market, he said.
The hard-money sector has histori-
cally faced a number of challenges as
lenders and investors seek to grow
their books of business and reach
more mainstream acceptance.
Many of the hard-money brokers are
mom and pop shops, producing only
a handful of loans, OShaughnessy said.
They rely on their network of con-
tacts and referrals to connect with in-
vestors, limiting their individual reach.
Many times, hard-money lenders use
warehouse lines of credit to build a
portfolio of loans to sell to investors.
The San Diego-based online loan
marketplace LoanMLS launched in June
2009. Since then, its registered more
than 9,000 brokers and investors who
can search listings of mortgages deals
looking for funding, similar to the way
prospective homebuyers search from
home listings on a property multiple
listing service. Listings are also opti-
mized to come up in search engine re-
sults, driving more people to the site.
There are a surprising number of
similarities between buying a home
and a loan, said Martin Goodman,
president and founder of LoanMLS.
Everybody knows how to buy a home.
You write an ofer, do an inspection,
its in escrow, you put down a deposit,
the inspection clears, the contingency
is waived and title is transferred. Its re-
ally the exact same thing with a loan.
LoanMLS users register on the site
to view and post loan listings. Good-
man estimates 40% of users are indi-
vidual investors, 30% business-type
investors like hedge funds or people
who have put together funds, and the
remaining 30% are brokers/lenders
like OShaughnessys Athas and Rama
hard money businesses.
A broker posting a loan can describe
it pre-closing, bringing investors into
the deal earlier in the process.
If you can go out in the marketplace
and fnd lots of diferent people and
get your participants as youre putting
the loan together, you can have some
give and take between the borrower
and the investor, Goodman said. You
may fnd you have to structure the
loan a little diferently or theyre look-
ing for a slightly diferent twist on the
type of loan you want to do.
Its not a bidding process, but more
of a conversation, he added.
In addition to posting loan details, both
investors and brokers can set parameters
for the types of participants they want to
work with. By vetting potential deal part-
ners before the transaction even begins,
saving time and efort chasing deals that
arent likely to succeed.
How serious they have to be is
really depending on the size of the
note and the size of the participation,
Goodman explained. If Im looking
for $100,000 on a $500,000 small ofce
building commercial note, the vetting
doesnt have to be that serious. If Im
looking at a $25 million hotel note,
thats a whole diferent ball game.
On the other side of the equation,
brokers can post due diligence reports
for loan listings so investors can have
more reassurance about a deals au-
thenticity and its associated risk level.
The vetting process is always chal-
lenging, which is probably why the
market does business with who theyve
done business with, which leaves out a
lot of players, Goodman said. Users set
their own prequalifcation questions so
they can do business with people they
are comfortable with.
As more participants engage with
each other on LoanMLS, Goodman
said another trend is developinga
micro channel of brokers seeking in-
vestors to table fund new originations.
While the majority of new originations
posted on LoanMLS have already been
funded and closed, Goodman said the
speed that participants can engage on
the website will spur new ways of do-
ing business like the table funding.
At any one time, there are a couple
of hundred listings on the system. The
goal is to increase that count of list
ings to the thousands in the next year,
which will help with another goal, lur
ing big money institutional investors
to the platform.
With the lack of private MBS of
ferings, some institutional investors
have begun trading scratch and dent
portfoliospools of loans with a mix
of performing, nonperforming and de
faulted loans, and sometimes includ
ing real estate owned properties.
Together, these loans are worth one
price, but split up, the performing
pieces can be sold at a higher proft.
Even notes in the bad loan pool can
be divvied up, with scratch loans
fetching more than the more damaged
or dented ones.
Robert Hodes, LoanMLS director of
institutional accounts, said many insti
tutional investors are fnding opportu
nities listing those portfolios of loans
on the website, while at the same time
connecting and building relationships
with hard-money players for potential
deals in the future.
The reaction is mixed. In certain
cases, people get it right away and go
and use the system, Hodes said. In
other cases, its really a new business
model and even thinking about using
the Internet to put up loans theyre in
teresting in selling is a little bit foreign.
So it takes some educating.
OShaughnessy believes as more in
stitutional types begin exploring alter
native investments like hard-money
deals and the LoanMLS marketplace,
theyll like what they see. But itll take
changing some perceptions about the
ways private players can participate in
mortgage investing.
Institutional investors havent fg
ured it out yet; they dont get our
space. Institutional investors are used
to getting a loan at 80% to 90% LTV
with a perfect credit score and great
income and accepting a yield of 3% or
4% on their bond, he said.
Theres a huge chasm
between the banks
program and ours, but
theres nothing in
between because theres
no secondary market.
Brian OShaughnessy, Athas Capital
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If you can go out in the marketplace
and fnd lots of diferent people and
get your participants as youre putting
the loan together, you can have some
give and take between the borrower
and the investor, Goodman said. You
may fnd you have to structure the
loan a little diferently or theyre look-
ing for a slightly diferent twist on the
type of loan you want to do.
Its not a bidding process, but more
of a conversation, he added.
In addition to posting loan details, both
investors and brokers can set parameters
for the types of participants they want to
work with. By vetting potential deal part-
ners before the transaction even begins,
saving time and efort chasing deals that
How serious they have to be is
really depending on the size of the
note and the size of the participation,
Goodman explained. If Im looking
for $100,000 on a $500,000 small ofce
building commercial note, the vetting
doesnt have to be that serious. If Im
looking at a $25 million hotel note,
thats a whole diferent ball game.
On the other side of the equation,
brokers can post due diligence reports
for loan listings so investors can have
more reassurance about a deals au-
thenticity and its associated risk level.
The vetting process is always chal-
lenging, which is probably why the
market does business with who theyve
done business with, which leaves out a
lot of players, Goodman said. Users set
their own prequalifcation questions so
they can do business with people they
As more participants engage with
each other on LoanMLS, Goodman
said another trend is developinga
micro channel of brokers seeking in-
vestors to table fund new originations.
While the majority of new originations
posted on LoanMLS have already been
funded and closed, Goodman said the
speed that participants can engage on
the website will spur new ways of do-
ing business like the table funding.
At any one time, there are a couple
of hundred listings on the system. The
goal is to increase that count of list-
ings to the thousands in the next year,
which will help with another goal, lur-
ing big money institutional investors
to the platform.
With the lack of private MBS of-
ferings, some institutional investors
have begun trading scratch and dent
portfoliospools of loans with a mix
of performing, nonperforming and de-
faulted loans, and sometimes includ-
ing real estate owned properties.
Together, these loans are worth one
price, but split up, the performing
pieces can be sold at a higher proft.
Even notes in the bad loan pool can
be divvied up, with scratch loans
fetching more than the more damaged
or dented ones.
Robert Hodes, LoanMLS director of
institutional accounts, said many insti-
tutional investors are fnding opportu-
nities listing those portfolios of loans
on the website, while at the same time
connecting and building relationships
with hard-money players for potential
deals in the future.
The reaction is mixed. In certain
cases, people get it right away and go
and use the system, Hodes said. In
other cases, its really a new business
model and even thinking about using
the Internet to put up loans theyre in-
teresting in selling is a little bit foreign.
So it takes some educating.
OShaughnessy believes as more in-
stitutional types begin exploring alter-
native investments like hard-money
deals and the LoanMLS marketplace,
theyll like what they see. But itll take
changing some perceptions about the
ways private players can participate in
mortgage investing.
Institutional investors havent fg-
ured it out yet; they dont get our
space. Institutional investors are used
to getting a loan at 80% to 90% LTV
with a perfect credit score and great
income and accepting a yield of 3% or
4% on their bond, he said.
Thats what they feel comfortable
with when really, those are tragic
loans and the most unsafe loans on
the planet.
Hard-money deals typically have
lower loan to value ratios that of-
set lower borrower credit credentials.
OShaughnessy said that the loans he
produces have an average LTV of 40%
and can net investors coupons rang-
ing from 7% to 11%.
So its less risk, more reward, but
institutional investors typically want
to deal with an institutional player or
seller of loans and thats where the big
disconnect is, he said.
The small volume nature of most
hard-money lenders is hard to over-
come. OShaughnessy estimates most
institutional investors would start pay-
ing attention to deals valued at $5 mil-
lion or more. LoanMLS is one way deals
of that size could be structured, he said.
We post 30 loans per month and
we can deliver the quantity that
would attract a private investor,
OShaughnessy said. The institutional
investor that understands the story
needs to team up with a prolifc pro-
ducer of private money loans and rec-
reate a marketplace. The marketplace
is untapped, its huge. They just need
to fnd the right player.
Due Diligence,
Monitoring Key
Hard-money lenders arent the only
ones originating nonconforming mort-
gages that cant be purchased by the
Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae or Ginnie Mae.
For example, in its frst quarter 2011
earnings report, JPMorgan Chase dis-
closed a $12 billion portfolio of prime
mortgages originated with the intent
to sell, with an average balance of $17.4
billion. A spokesperson for the compa-
ny declined to provide any information
about the portfolio. But other sources
confrm that JPMorgan is selling whole
loan portfolios to institutional inves-
tors, making it possible that these loans
could be sold to institutional investors.
Even with the strict underwriting
standards employed by mortgage
lenders, investors who are snake bit-
ten by the losses incurred on the pri-
vate-label mortgage investments of
the past require the utmost assurances
that new originations are sound.
For pools of both new and existing
loans, investors are turning to technol-
ogy and data providers for answers
about potential investments. In re-
sponse, providers of those services are
bringing new products to market, as
well as revamping old technology to
respond to new demands.
Whole loan trading has been going
on for a long time; its not a new thing
by any stretch, said Afshin Goodarzi,
head of predictive analytics at New
York-based 1010data. But the pickup
and the interest in bringing in addi-
tional data assets to review and ana-
lyze, that is reasonably new; within
the past three years or so when people
started talking about it.
1010data took technology it was
using to review the quality of loans
in MBS deals and found an applica-
tion for it in the whole loan market.
An investor conducting a review of a
potential securitization or whole loan
deal will send 1010data a fle with
loan-level, nonpersonally identifable
information about a pool of loans.
Those anonymous data points in-
clude origination date, ZIP code of the
mortgaged property and loan amount,
among others.
The companys technology then
performs a crosscheck of the loan fle
data with the consumer credit profles
at Equifax to derive the identity of the
borrower. The Equifax data helps the
investor make a more informed bid on
a pool of loans because they have an
accurate and timely picture of the bor-
rowers current fnancial status.
Investors have realized that know-
ing whats going on in a borrowers
world in terms of credit is important,
said Greg Munves, executive vice pres-
ident at 1010data.
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What their FICO score was three
years ago is not necessarily relevant at
this point, Munves added.
The size of the whole loan portfo-
lios getting these sorts of reviews can
range from the hundreds to the hun-
dred thousand. 1010data doesnt have
an accurate way to tell how much of
their increased business is due to an
increase in demand for data and ana-
lytics as opposed to an increase in
deal volume, but Goodarzi said these
methods will continue to proliferate as
the economy recovers and investors
return to the private-label secondary
mortgage market.
It is in response to how the mar-
ket is developing. The market is mov-
ing away from securitization, he said.
There havent been too many new
deals showing up, so the money is try-
ing to fnd additional places to go.
How the securitization model of
mortgage investment takes shape is
largely pending federal requirements
on risk retention requirements, spe-
cifcally the defnition of what consti-
tutes a qualifed residential mortgage
exemption from the DoddFrank Wall
Street Reform and Consumer Protec-
tion Act regulations.
Dave Hurt, a senior vice president
of business development at Santa Ana,
Calif.-based CoreLogic, believes many
whole loan market participants are
originating and trading whole mort-
gages with the expectation that the
securitization market will start to pick
up after the QRM defnition is fnal-
ized, so they want to have a relatively
fresh inventory qualifed loan inven-
tory in place to structure securities.
To do this, theyre using technology
and data to make sure they can dis-
pose of whole loans in the future.
People are using full suites of tools
or sections of suites like in a deli plat-
ter; a little of this, a little of that. Its all
to tailor a credit management architec-
ture to capture as much as they can
on the vetting process at the point of
origination, he said.
After origination, when loans have
to be continually monitored for per-
formance, investors are using similar
tools so they can always know whats
going on in their portfolio.
If they want to have these things
eligible for some sort of outcome in
a securitization, theyre going to have
to match those assets just as if theyre
freshly originated until the time they
would be putting them into a secu-
rity, Hurt added.
There are very creative and fexible
architectures that can be created and
are being leveraged by active play-
ers in the whole loan sector, as well
as those that would be planning some
sort of event in the form of a securiti-
zation after the fnal rule set is deter-
mined, he said.
Similar to evaluating current bor-
rower credit profles and debt-to-in-
come ratios, investors are using infor-
mation about local property values
and macro economic conditions to in-
form their opinions about worthwhile
investments and pricing decisions.
The old way was you got an ap-
praisal, you did a credit report, you
check the DTI on the borrower, you
made the loan, you put it in there and
then you hedge your interest rate risk
associated with the collateral until you
accumulated enough critical mass and
size to get an efcient execution on
the security, Hurt said.
If there were any problems with the
loans, rising home price appreciation
usually avoided losses, even in the
case of foreclosure. But the housing
market crash took that crutch away.
It wasnt that the investors werent
paying attention, but housing price
appreciation bailed out bad decisions
so you never saw the impact in the se-
nior bonds that weve seen in the past
four or fve yearsthe deterioration of
the real estate that was collateralizing
the mortgages, Hurt said.
There is now reliance on those data
and analytics so the determinate of
the risk associated with that particu-
lar pool of collateral in the security.
Theyre going to use the tools, he
continued. Theres a higher awareness
of what those tools are and what they
can do and certainly, the knowledge
exception doesnt exist anymore.
Return of Private-
Label Liquidity
Along with the pending QRM rules,
the secondary market is waiting to see
how the expected conclusion of the
Federal Reserves second quantitative
easing, or QE2, program in June will
impact mortgage bonds and subse-
quently, interest rates for borrowers.
If the other investment community,
those who bought those bonds before,
including the nonagency sector, come
in with the same sort of yield levels and
capacity as the Fed, this will be like a
pin drop in a room, you wont even no-
tice it. But thats a big if, Hurt said.
Meanwhile, as the new style of
whole loan activity continues to build
momentum, secondary market players
are realizing the beneft of technology
and data monitoring and as secondary
mortgage investing picks up, including
the potential return of private-label
MBS trading, the emphasis on quality
and the desire to track loan-level data
wont go away.
I cant overemphasize that its es-
sential for anybody thats in this space
on the front endirrespective of the
secondary market outcome of those
loansthey have to follow some pretty
signifcant disciplines, Hurt said.
Theres a higher
awareness of what those
tools are and what they
can do and certainly, the
knowledge exception
doesnt exist anymore.
Dave Hurt, CoreLogic
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careers have evolved in our space, but
not because they are incapable of un-
derstanding the material.
But they are not business men.
Most technology executives under-
stand the technology they are imple-
menting or licensing and take great
pride in it, but they dont always see
the whole picture; since they have
never transitioned from the role of a
specialist to a generalist, making busi-
ness decisions can sometimes be more
difcult for them.
Many have worked in software
development writing code, as sys-
tem administrators working on serv-
ers, or providing support on the help
desk. These posts are strong training
grounds for diverse technology ca-
reers, but executives working here are
learning more about technology than
business processes.
To diversify their business skills, tech-
nologists need to work in areas of the
business from which they do not tra-
ditionally evolve. For example, by ex-
posing them to roles in software qual-
ity assurance, product management or
participating as a business analyst, these
professionals are much more likely to
see the relationship between business
and technology. Unfortunately, few
executive technologists work in these
roles at any time during their careers.
They are signifcantly less like to have
been exposed to the business side, so
most unfortunately, never gain the op-
portunity to develop those skills.
There are, of course, examples of
CIOs who do have a broader base of
expertise. Any technologist who wants
to learn new skills could accept a job
with a startup and broaden their skills.
A recent college graduate, for instance,
may have been hired to write software,
but the fedgling frm, which employs a
small number of employees, also needs
a product plan for a new product and
so he is asked to write the frst draft.
By the time the company has 65 em-
ployees, a few years later, the college
grad is an experienced hand, one that
has been involved in all aspects of the
business, at many levels of the com-
pany. As a result, he brings a wider,
and a deeper understanding of how
the business works. He understands
better the demands and expectations
of clients, and the role of technology
in satisfying them. These executives,
in general, perform quite well in any
business environment.
Those opportunities are less common
today because there are fewer startups,
owing to the weak economy. There is
no question, however, that individuals
who develop the right blend of technol-
ogy skills and business experience tend
to make well-informed, more efective
professionals. They have developed
skill sets that transcend technology
which makes them particularly well-
prepared to be excellent chief technolo-
gistsand more often than nothighly
efective CEOs who can face a business
challenge and, step by step, fgure a
way to conquer it.
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CoreLogic WillCap
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Document Systems
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LendingSpace
www.lendingspace.com 15
GCC Servicing Systems
www.gccservicing.com 27
Service Link
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With todays advancements in PPE
technology, a credit-based decision via an
AUS is ideal prior to locking the loan, as
this leads to a more accurate price.
Bruce Backer, President, LoanSifter
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Mortgage technology: Is the per-
ception that Fannie Mae is more forward
thinking than Freddie Mac in terms of how it
acquires and utilizes new technology a reality
or a myth?
e.J. Kite: I left Freddie Mac in 2005
and went to Fannie in 2007. And my
area of expertise in management re-
porting, so Im more knowledgeable
in the data warehouse side of it, where
reporting comes from, not so much
the technology used to process loans.
When I was at Freddie Mac, we al-
ways felt that Fannie Mae was the pin-
nacle of technology and Freddie Mac
was a fast follower in many cases, usu-
ally with product announcements.
In 2001, when I was at Freddie Mac,
we had developed a robust corporate
data warehouse to move people of
mainframe reporting and on to more
of a snapshot environment where we
could generate reports and know what
the business looked like from any spe-
cifc, single point in time.
When I got to Fannie Mae in 2007,
I started asking questions about how
the reporting was done.
From a reporting standpoint, think
about it like when you look at your
checking account. You want to know
what your activity was yesterday. You
want to know what was deposited and
what was pulled out every night. You
want to have some sort of a record of
it. You dont necessarily want it to be
very dynamic.
When I was at Fannie Mae, the ma-
jority of the reporting, well over 90%
of it, was being run of those transac-
tion systems.
If Im writing a report that tells me
the volume of REO inventory today,
yesterday, those types of things, only
certain things could be asked of this
report generating technology.
It sat on top of the transaction sys-
tem that the REO specialist was using.
So if we acquired new REO properties
between the time you ran the report
and the second time you ran the re-
port, it would change.
They are very good at developing
operational reporting, answering how
many widgets do I have right now. But
where they lacked was being able to
answer how many widgets did I have
yesterday? It didnt capture a lot of
history and we didnt develop a lot of
nightly snapshots.
A corporate data warehouse where
I can run a report that says the same
thing for the auditors, who always want
to look at the book of business at a spe-
cifc point in time. Its very difcult to do
that in the systems at Fannie Mae. Fan-
nie Mae lacked a focus on that because
Freddie Mac felt the need to do that.
Dick Bottomley was our CFO and
who I reported to in 2000-2001, his
main focus was whos our most proft-
able customer, I need to know whats
going on at any minute of any day, as
well as provide reports to upper man-
agement on how we did the week be-
fore or month before. We developed a
lot of reporting to support that.
Im not so sure those same questions
are being asked at upper management
in the credit loss space at Fannie Mae.
They may have been in the loan origina-
tion side, but in Dallas, there was not a
consistent view of management report-
ing and there was not a focus to develop
a technology and database structure to
handle management reporting.
Transaction reporting was spot on,
but they didnt have a really good pro-
cess for knowing what caused it, what
happened and how do I compare over
diferent periods of time. Thats what
we developed when I got there.
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