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39 Percent Of NYC Pregnancies Result In Abortion


January 7, 2011 1:04 PM

New York Catholic Archbishop Timothy Dolan at a a press conference in New York on Jan. 6, 2011. (AP Photo/Chiaroscuro Foundation, Diane Bondareff)

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) Archbishop Timothy Dolan is calling for efforts to make abortions in New York City rare. Dolan gathered with other religious leaders on Thursday to draw attention to the citys high abortion rate. The city health department last month released statistics that showed 39 percent of pregnancies ended with induced termination in 2009. READ THE REPORT HERE. I re-affirm Cardinal John OConnors promise of a quartercentury ago that every woman facing a difficult pregnancy will be provided with free, confidential help of the highest quality from the Archdiocese of New York, said Archbishop Dolan. While the numbers have declined in the last decade, the religious leaders said they are still too high. In 2009, there were 225,667 pregnancies in the City with 126,774 resulting in live births and 87,273 resulting in abortions. In addition to those abortion numbers, there were 11,620 spontaneous terminations. Forty-six percent of all births in the Bronx result in abortions the highest among the five boroughs, according to the report. Blacks had the highest number of abortions with 40,798 with Hispanics having the second highest at 28,364, according to the report. In response, the Chiaroscuro Foundation, a non-profit organization that supports alternatives to abortion, pledged that

it will spend $1 million in 2011 to address the Citys abortion ratenearly double the national average of 23 percent. Like it or not, the legality of abortion is a settled question in New York for the time being, said Greg Pfundstein, executive director of the Chiaroscuro Foundation. That doesnt mean we have to accept the fact that in parts of the city nearly half of all pregnancies end in abortion. Dolan said the practice is unlikely to end but that it was important to tell people what is happening and help pregnant women come to terms with their choices. We are prepared to do everything in our power to help you and your unborn baby to make absolutely certain that you need never feel that you have no choice but an abortion, Archbishop Dolan said. The Wall Street Journal reports that the religious leaders also criticized public schools sex education programs that include condom distribution. (TM and Copyright 2011 CBS Radio Inc. and its relevant subsidiaries. CBS RADIO and EYE Logo TM and Copyright 2011 CBS Broadcasting Inc. Used under license. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.) 699 Comments Jim

This is a posting to all of the girls / woman out there who might be open to counciling from Planned Parenthood and the rest When I was in Iraq, my First Sergeant, a Marine tunnel rat in Vietnam, told us, if you think you are too tough today to suffer from the mental anguish of taking another life, believe me you are wrong Think about that and dont be misled by the wicked. You will be the one who has to live with this decision and you dont have to. Note that even Sharon points out she hasnt had to live with this decision. Help is out there. Please be open to it. You will be happier and your soul will have greater peace. January 11, 2011 at 10:45 am | Reply | Report comment Sharon Jim is a masculine name. I, therefore, assume you are male and have no standing in this debate. You are the kind of man who would tell a 12 year old incest/rape victim that she has to carry, birth and raise the child. Let women deal with their own bodies and lives. As to counseling, great. I am all for it. I do not support, however, dragging a young girl or anyone else, for that matter, into a room and forcing her to view an ultra-sound of her fetus. That is certainly be not only effective but also very, very cruel. You zealots tried to get that one through in TX.

The right to an abortion is the law of the land. An abortion is between a woman, her doctor and her God. Until you have carried and unplanned baby. until you haveand t a baby, as I have, you have no idea what is involved. I know that anguish and I feel guilt because my IUD failed. It went way up inside my womb and ultimately worked, producing a miscarriage. The things are internal abortioin machines. You will never have the experience so dont presume to make judgments for others. January 11, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Reply | Report comment Jim I guess since I wasnt tortured in a Nazi camp I cant make a judgment on that either, even though you seem willing to readily agree with that practice as well. You want logic and not ad hominem arguments and then you call me a zealot. What we are talking about here is a practice based on the assumption that killing your problem will make everything better. Since you have never made the conscious decision to kill a life, you are no better than me to tell someone whether the practice will haunt them or not, which was the basis of my argument. Since you are a mother, I assume there was a father. I would also assume you would want a father to look out for his children and if his child is a girl, that he would want what is right for her and not to leave her to find her way. Your logic is irrational and your inner thoughts are wicked.

January 11, 2011 at 12:40 pm Sharon @jIM: I never said that I support Nazi death camps. Good grief. I voiced concerned over the gene pool, which is being weakened. Yes, I have a husband who fathered my children. I dont think my daughters sexual health or future is his business. He wants the best for her but he cannot possibly understand. You would condemn a young woman to a life to responsibility for which she might not be ready just because you have some warped notiion of what is right. Wickedness lies in being to entrenched in ones thoughts, ideas and religiion that one cannot see another point of view. Scott Peck said (I paraphrase) in People of the Lie, that true evil is the inability to admit error. I completely agree. I believe that the Pope and the majority of the Catholic church is wallowing in evil in not reversing their dogma on contraception and abortion. We will never see eye to eye but I am telling you, mister, that this is none of your business. FYI: I abhor the use of abortion instead of contraception. There are, however, many times when it is best that the potential child be terminated. January 11, 2011 at 2:06 pm MaryofAz Look at all the comments on this tragic practice of murdering the unborn. As anyone can see, debating with a mindset that approves of this barbaric practice is a waste of time. Sharon and

the like will find out soon enough the consequences of promoting the massacre of these innocents. January 11, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply | Report comment Sharon Arguing with your pseudo religioius mindset is a waste of time. Who is going to deliver consequences? Is it your wrathful God, my loving one or a senile, celibate who is living in the dark ages. January 11, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Reply | Report comment Mic Margaret Sanger must be lifting up a smile from hell ! January 10, 2011 at 5:47 am | Reply | Report comment Sharon @colin Herr Hitler had a point didnt he? We weaken the gene pool with that kind of behavior January 9, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Reply | Report comment Mr. V.A. Fankool Sharon: What are you talking about, youre a racist yourself You must be one of those devout Catholics who are so

traditionalist and strict when it comes to the practice of religion but deep inside are putrid souls. You Cacist Runt! January 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon What makes you think I am a racist or a Catholic. Wrong on both counts. Clean up your language if you want to be taken seriously. You claim to be a Mr which tells me that you have no right to be in this discussion. When you have born two children, you might be entitled to an opinion. January 10, 2011 at 6:23 pm Mr. V.A. Fankool Was responding to your previous RACIST remark that your wouldnt adopt a Black or Latino baby because youd think the mother was abusing drugs.. Clean up your own before tell anyone to change their language. Cacist Runt! January 10, 2011 at 6:27 pm cazzone what the hell is a cacist runt ? January 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm Sharon

I recently refused to adopt a white family member whose mother had been abusing drugs. Does that make me a racist? Racist is the favorite ad hominem of those with little to say for themselves and less intellect. I dont think I have called anyone a filthy name or made filthy referalls to the sex act. January 10, 2011 at 6:49 pm Commonsense They should make condoms available to these women. And women need to stand up, empower themselves and make the decision for their own bodies without having to resort to abortion. Make the bum wear a condom or dont give it up!!!!!!!! January 9, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Reply | Report comment KPMc What makes you think condoms werent available to these women AND the men they slept with? They made a conscience CHOICE to forgo them and rely on abortion as their birth control. Whatever your views legally or morally thats just disgusting! January 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Reply | Report comment Mr. V.A. Fankool They need to learn to keep their legs closed OR make sure Mr.Peter is properly dressed before being allowed in. Club C should be more like the Plaza Hotel, very exclusive and proper

attire to enter but when Club C resembles Grand Central Station, then the quality of the place drops and its gets kinda worn and torn. January 10, 2011 at 5:59 pm Sharon Who is they? January 10, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Reply | Report comment J-Love Those who truly wish to eradicate abortion should be the loudest and most ardent proponents of birth control and sex education. The reality is that almost half of all pregnancies are unplanned and the overwhelming majority of unplanned pregnancies are a result of lack of birth control. Sex education in this country has become a joke. Most children receive little more than a dont do it speech and, as a result, are ill-equipped and prepared for the realities of adulthood. The number of times I hear Can you get pregnant from anal sex? or see the reliance on the pull out method is. disgusting. For those of you who dont like Planned Parenthood, realize that for many people it is the only source of sexual education, birth control, and family planning for many people. Why not address the root of the problem: education and access to reliable birthcontrol? Removing the stigma of talking about sex and family planning? Providing young mothers support (financial, child-care, health-care, etc)? January 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Reply | Report comment

Sharon It is the same people who oppose abortions who are also opposed to their children learning anything about sex at school, generally speaking. January 10, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes @Eliot I dont know any woman who has had children herself who thinks that babies arent human. I have two living children and one that I lost. I never regarded that 3 month fetus as a human. Thanks for the sentimental rubbish. January 9, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Reply | Report comment Colin Sharon Barnes. Just keeping telling yourself that. The reality of it is At 12 Weeks or 3 Months: -The feet are almost half an inch (1cm) long. -The fetus starts moving spontaneously. -The face is beginning to look like a babys face. -The pancreas is functioning and producing insulin. -Fingernails and toenails appear. -The baby can suck his thumb, and get hiccups. -You will notice that the rate is up to 160 a minute, double that of a normal adult.

-Vocal chords are complete, and the baby can and does sometimes cry silently. -The brain is fully formed, and the baby can also feel pain. -The eyelids now cover the eyes, and will remain shut until the seventh month to protect the delicate optical nerve fibers. -The hair is on the head and the fingers and toes have developed soft nails. -The kidneys are developed and begin to secrete urine. January 9, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Can it survive outside the womb? If not, it is not ready to be a human. The potential is there but it cannot survive. January 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm Colin By your logic, any human that cannot continue life without support is subject to be terminated by another. I think I read this ideology elsewhere. The worst danger is that we are interrupting the natural selection process ourselves (by caring for the sick and weak) Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler We later agreed as a society to never allow another to decide who lives and who dies. Unfortunately, the fetus doesnt get the same support. January 9, 2011 at 6:37 pm

Danielito The brain in not fully formed. Its not even fully formed when the baby is born. It has no developed cerebral cortex at 3 months which is what is responsibel for higher cognative ability. The hair part is also not true at three months. January 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm Nurse Lisa Im an RN at a maternity hospital. I have seen 9 -18 week old fetuses. I have held them. I have admired their beauty. I have counted their ten little fingers and ten little toes. I have seen their humanity. I have comforted their mothers. The child you lost was human, even if you did not regard it as such. January 9, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon It had the potential for humanity. It was not even identifiable as a baby when I lost it. Dont tell me it was a human. On the other hand I think that the practice of killing near term babies in the womb to be barbaric and am glad it was abolished. Those near term babies are human. January 9, 2011 at 6:06 pm twoiron

@SB, poor dear, how did you get so hard-hearted? Whether you regarded your unborn baby as a human or not, it was a human, with unique DNA and a chance to make the world a better place. I am sorry for your loss. Were they asked and were they capable of answering, 100% of the unborn would take a shot at life, even if they had poor, uneducated parents. Even if they had hard-hearted parents. January 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Hard-hearted, I dont think so. The child was not viable and therefore, having the potential for humanity, failed to meet the potential. I am hardly poor and am hardly uneducated. I mourned the potential of the child, the baby that would not be. I did not mourn the cellular blob. Since we cannot ask this human lets let the parents make the decision. January 9, 2011 at 6:09 pm Danielito The same argument could be made about my sperm. if the unique DNA part is what is important, then Friday night by myself and every period a woman has is a massacre. January 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm Mary of Az Love you fixation on potential. That embryo, fetus is exactly what a human looks like at that stage of development. Infants

have potential too, would you demand that infant fend for itself to prove it is worthy of living. You have lived 70 misguided years of spreading you liberal trash and to say that these replies to your dismissal of humans in the womb as less than an honest debate, only shows your predictable liberal twist that only your opinion is the righteous opinion. Give it up lady, you will find out soon enough how pathetically wrong you are. January 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm Chef Boy R Dee Hey Sharon, looks like you didnt survive outside the womb either January 9, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Looks like I did since I am pushing 70. That kind of comment, does nothing to further an honest debate. Since you folks are going to use ad hominems and snide remarks, I am not wasting any more time on you. Catholics and right-wingers certainly have a skewed idea of integrity. January 9, 2011 at 7:49 pm Bill Sharon, ironically your staunch support of life to those who deserve it the most will put you at risk in a few years when they want to cut expenses by eliminating those who are a drain on the medical system.

January 9, 2011 at 8:12 pm MaryofAz @ Sharon. Sentimental rubbish. You cold hearted baby killer. Do you pro abortion people ever get over seeing anything beyond the end of your nose. Rant and rage about these little ones not being human to make it easier to kill them. You have a lot to answer for lady. January 9, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Reply | Report comment Danielito If it has no developed cerebral cortex, it is not humanperiod. Anything else and it is only the potential to be human, the same as my spermwhich is not sacred. January 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm Sharon @Mary: I have never killed a baby. I have never had an abortion. I would, however support your right to one. That is how strongly I feel about a womans right to choose. I have nothing to answer for. Just to whom do you think I should answer? The right to an abortion is the law of the land. One of the great things about this nation is the right to liberty. Liberty means being free of the opinions of others. i.e., I cannot force you to have an abortion. This is not China. On the other hand, I and many others should be free from being forced to

adhere to your beliefs, as in outlawing abortions. I am free to choose and so are you. That is the beauty of it. FYI: I am not a liberal, I am a conservative who happens to disagree with the mainstream of fanaticism. @Bill: You are absolutely right. That is why I carry my own health insurance and do not rely on the government. January 10, 2011 at 8:24 pm Bill Sharon at one point the law of the land stated that woman shouldnt be allowed to vote or that one human could own another human as their slave. Progress meant enforcement of our God given rights where man had overstepped his bounds. In your opinion then, what secures your freedom if laws are not rooted in The Laws of Nature and of Natures God? To say that you support the right to act as you please even when it impacts others is to contradict even the most libertarian of views while saying this isnt China. The Chinese government is not beholden to a higher power. They are beholden to man only. In 70 years you missed the critical element of our form of government. January 11, 2011 at 8:39 am Colin

Shocker Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood was an aethist. For all of the libs who think she was fighting for your freedom. The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind. Margaret Sanger January 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Reply | Report comment Vicky The word is atheist. And Sanger is right. Look at who is having the most children the uneducated and unenlightened. A society needs fewer of these people. To that end, I absolutely believe government should stay out of the bedroom. Who knows all the different reasons why woman are having abortions. THAT is where we can find the answers and solutions. NYC has 100s of different cultures living within its borders and 100s of different religious beliefs. And the idea that some are putting up that woman feel so alone that they have an abortion isnt accurate. There are women who ARE scared, but there are woman who are relieved as well. January 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Reply | Report comment Colin I guess you would know about atheism The irony of you considering yourself to be enlightened.

With all of your education, I think you might want to reread KantAct so that you always treat others as an end and never as a means to an end only I guess you were referring to enlightenment in your definition. January 9, 2011 at 4:38 pm Mr. V.A. Fankool Hey, if that were the case then Jersey would be a desert! OH YES! January 10, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Reply | Report comment Adam Smith Bottom line is that all the liberals are completely self centered not family centered and through abortion and impoverished sex lives are reproducing at a rate of about 1.4 births per couple (it takes 2.2 to maintain a stable population) just dwindling away. More family centered people, typically Catholic or Christian are maintaining a birth rate of about 2.4 children per family enough to grow the population slowly. Given that 90% of children of believers go on to continue being believers and about 75% of children of seculars go on to continue being seculars the bottom line is that the lack of Darwinian fitness (reproductive fitness) of the seculars is basically breeding them out of existence. January 9, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon

There are a number of liberals in my family. While I consider them misguided, I would also consider them to be very family centered and only a little self-centered. You generalize and you are in error. January 10, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Reply | Report comment Dizzay Its funny how its a womens body when she wants to kill her baby (abortion) but its not hers when it comes to sex. You can legally sell your body for ANYTHING except for sex. Why? The only logical answer is that its immoral by many religious standards, but theres supposed to be a separation of Church and state, right? Laws against prostitution violate Americans fundamental rights of individual liberty and personal privacy. Thomas Jefferson and other founders of the U.S. envisioned a society where people can live without interference from government, provided they dont harm others. As Jefferson said in his First Inaugural Address: A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement. Or as Arthur Hoppe wrote about consensual acts in the San Francisco Chronicle in 1992: The function of government is to protect me from others. Its up to me, thank you, to protect me from me. January 9, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon i agree.

January 10, 2011 at 8:30 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes @twoiron It is certainly being listened to inside my family. My about to be ex-daughter-in-law is Catholic and so are the children. If my son wanted to limit the size of the family, he had to use the birth control. As for abortion, she will not tolerate anyone who has ever had one. We just dont talk about it. As for every other Catholic out there, I wouldnt know. Surely there are more like her. January 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Reply | Report comment DOPE-BENEDICT XVI, S.S. Oh yes, those sanctimonious and intolerant Catholics, the Popes mule variety! January 9, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Reply | Report comment Swamp Willow Speaking as a Catholic, I could never condemn anyone who has had an abortion (and all the Catholics I know share this belief). Rather, I wonder how alone the woman must feel, so that abortion is the answershe must have surely felt she didnt have the support of those around her to raise a child or at least give him or her up for adoption. And your son must have surely known of your daughters-in-law ultra-orthodox beliefs, but married her anyway w/o apparently

sharing them? I hope they can come to a peaceful dissolution for the sake of the children. January 9, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon The divorce has nothing to do with Catholicism. January 10, 2011 at 4:25 pm Common Sense Just use the pill January 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Reply | Report comment That's exactly what I was thinking THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or IUDlast for 3years or even 10years, That way no one gets hurt. January 9, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Reply | Report comment bostinks2 What party supports pro-choice or pro-abortion? liberal Democrats Just this last week scientists say they believe life can be found on Mars, question is what kind? Microbiological or single celled? if that is the case wouldnt either be considered life? consider the sperm and the ovary as life and the meeting of the 2 as something special in human form.

if liberals want to abort, let them, just dont impose that expense on me to do their dirty work. Conservatives i believe are generally prolife. think of it this way they will be aborting their own kind. Thereby reducing recruitment into their ideology and belief system and political party. Conservatives need not feel guilty about the self destruction of liberal human policies that may end the life of their human fetuses. I say lets abort MARS. January 9, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes This conservative is pro-choice. You do not speak for me. January 9, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Reply | Report comment Topher its like saying that liberals are pro life or jews are antisemitic January 9, 2011 at 2:53 pm Vicky Topher. Dont be so ignorant. If you are a Libertarian or Republican, you should believe that the government should stay out of the bedroom. You may not LIKE abortion at all or support it which is certainly a valid feeling but I would rethink your idea about the political parties and what it means to have government interference. January 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm

NAKED_TRUTH Conservatives pro-life ? ..Pro life my arse! They are the first ones crying out for the Death Penalty and War. Pro life? Go tell that to the people of Iraq. One thing about Conservatives they are HYPOCRITES and quite full of it. January 9, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Reply | Report comment Moto ^^^^ Yet another pathetic liberal who cannot draw a moral distinction between killing a convicted murderer for punishment and murdering an unborn child for convenience. January 9, 2011 at 1:14 pm Danielito We killed at least 50,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, and thats by our numbers, not the real number which is probably more around 150,000 non-combatants dead. But I guess they are brown folks in another country so it doent matter as much as an unborn fetus to right wingers. You people have no right to claim the moral high ground when it comes to life. You argue that a fetus is a human and we have to argue that a brown muslim child is also a human and not just a statistic. HYPOCRITES!!!! and its just a wedge issue to get you to vote against your interests anyway. Have fun in your job as a miner or oil platform worker and think about the fact that youre republican leaders worry about abortion more than worker safety. Its a shell game

bubba and the real republicans (the ones who dont go to church and get you to vote for their interests through rediculous issues like abortion and flag burning) are laughing at you and saving money on your hide. January 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm JASON INTERESTING..THE DEMOCRATS 2 MOST POWERFUL , RELIABLE VOTING BLOCKS.THE BLACKS AND LATINOS January 9, 2011 at 11:04 am | Reply | Report comment deRuiter Typical, an old man who claims to be celibate wanting to force women to carry pregnancies they dont want. How about each individual has or doesnt have abortions according to her / his own conscience? How about the Arch Bishop spending more time weeding out pedophiles from the priesthood? That ought to give him enough to keep his nose out of the business of women. I am tired of old men telling women how to run their lives. January 9, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply | Report comment Common Sense We are tired of old women telling men how to run their lives January 9, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply | Report comment Yo-Mamma!

@Common Sense: Then move out from your mothers basement! its that simple! January 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm vinni i wonder if there is a connection??? I hope there is. The number of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats is at its lowest point in seven years, according to a new survey by Gallup a warning sign for the president and his party as the next race for the White House gets set to begin. According to the annual Gallup survey of party identification, 31 percent of Americans say they are Democrats a number that is down five percentage points from 2008 and is the same as it was in 2003 the year following impressive Republican gains in the House and Senate. January 9, 2011 at 6:54 am | Reply | Report comment Jordan Why cant we just teach safe sex in school? Right now, theres little to no education on contraceptives in the grades where many students are starting to experiment, which is in the late elementary school years in some cases. They dont understand the consequences of their actions until its too late. Teaching about contraceptives and making them a requirement, while still emphasizing that theres no fool proof way to prevent pregnancy, apart from abstinence, will cut down on unwanted pregnancies, and abortions. Abstinence only education does NOT work, and only leads to ignorance.

Making a girl or woman carry out an unwanted pregnancy to term is raping her body, and depriving her of making her own life choices. January 9, 2011 at 5:19 am | Reply | Report comment Swamp Willow Teaching a child about consequences doesnt mean they understand consequences of that magnitude. Children and especially teens feel like consequences will happen to someone else. If grown women, who understand the consequences of sex, still choose abortion because a child would be an inconvenience to their life, whats the point of teaching sex education in school? Abstinence works if it was seen as a good thingbut todays society merely sees sex as a normal expression of ones body and desiresbut then so is pregnancy a normal function of that bodily desire. So why the push for freedom of expression to satisfy that desire, but not accepting the results of that desire? All the fun stuff but none of the consequencesindeed, a very childish desire in and of itself. A woman with an unwanted pregnancy is usually not, as you crudely put it raping her bodyher life choice was to have sex, and a pregnancy could result. Why cant adoption be encouraged? As I mentioned in another comment, I feel so sorry for a woman who feels so alone and without real help and support, that she must choose an abortion. I blame those around her, I think, more than I blame her.

January 9, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Reply | Report comment Emma Oh i just love how people who are pro choice simply casts the rocks at people who choose abortion it is the womans choice if she wants to have an abortion this is the problem with American people, everyone needs to mind their own damn business its not your baby, or fetus is it? how about you adopt the baby then and spend all the money it takes to raise a child in these tough economic times and yes the woman made the choice to have sex and she is making the choice to not have the baby, end of story. how can people say have the child yet are outraged by taxes and want to cut state/welfare benefits etc. nothing but hypocrites all you pro life people are hypocrites crying out because you dont agree with abortion but yet when it came down it to it wouldnt help lift a hand to the young mother in need if she opted to keep the baby or etc. January 10, 2011 at 11:02 am Bill Emma, you are clearly the poster child for our poor educational system. Your logic is that since the government taxes us to death, a mother might as well choose death for her child. Tough economic timesI bet your friends that you speak of drive cars, have cable TV, have access to the internet (you clearly do), wear clothing bought in stores and not made on their own and go out to dinner at restaurants.

You will be another one who will be shocked at the end of the road, when the government tells you that you dont merit additional health coverage because its just too expensive for the populouswhat comes around goes around. January 10, 2011 at 11:37 am Chris HOW EXACTLY DO WE SOLVE THIS? If abortion were illegal, then sure, some women would get backalley abortions. We solve that by prosecuting her if shes discovered. Thats the whole point in making abortion illegal: to deter with the threat of prosecution. If a woman wants to take dangerous risks to secure an abortion, then society shouldnt feel responsible if something bad happens to her. By way of illustration, imagine a crazy world where it is legal to kill black people. Dont like having black people on your street? Thats ok, just kill them. Now imagine the laws that allowed us to kill our black neighbors were repealed and we risked prosecution if we tried. Would any of us really feel bad if some guy got shot to death because he was trying to break into his black neighbors house to murder him in spite of the law? January 9, 2011 at 1:57 am | Reply | Report comment Mark Peter, MA, MA Back alley abortions go up when its legalized. Its destroying the black community (Keyes, Masters of Destiny). Roe v Wade should be overturned as its a poorly reasoned legal opinion.

Planned Parenthood shouldnt receive federal funding. The adoption process should be streamlined. Programs like Save a Baby for unwed mothers should be promoted. Good counseling services like CareNet. Abstinence as a part of the sex education curriculum January 9, 2011 at 3:21 am | Reply | Report comment CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA) Of course you have already adopted quite a few yourself right? January 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm DOPE-BENEDICT XVI, S.S. Listen, I too think Abortion is killing a life, it is ! Okay! but how do we solve this issue? If you ban abortion outright overnight women will then go back to shady back alley operations or jabbing coat hangers up the watoosha, so what is the plan to end abortion and not just the legal form.So to all you intellectuals and to the Popes Mules: HOW EXACTLY DO WE SOLVE THIS? January 9, 2011 at 12:45 am | Reply | Report comment M Peter A study done in Sweden and Britain shows that back alley abortions go up when its legalized! January 9, 2011 at 3:23 am | Reply | Report comment That's exactly what I was thinking

IUDs for everyone for free. Lasts up to 10 years. January 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes How do you think IUDs work? I had one, got pregnant and subsequently lost the baby. It is an internal abortion machine. However, I guess that is ok with all you right-to-lifers. I wouldnt wish that experience on anyone. January 9, 2011 at 5:58 pm Simple_Simon IF YOU ARE SO STAUNCHLY OPPOSED TO ABORTION THEN DONT HAVE ONE! January 9, 2011 at 12:41 am | Reply | Report comment afreegreek BTW, anyone have an idea of how many abortions are performed every year? my bet is since Roe V Wade it would equal all of the dead from every war since the War of Independence or more.. January 8, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Reply | Report comment Baal Child sacrifice. No good will come from this. January 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm | Reply | Report comment

betsp When a woman wants to kill her baby, no voice on earth can stop her. Planned Parenthood was started by Sanger to decrease the black population. How is that different now? January 8, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply | Report comment Mike00ss I wish all you New Yorkers would just fade awayYou all talk too much and say damned little. January 8, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Reply | Report comment John Relax. The purpose of abortions is to make way for illegal immigrants. January 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Reply | Report comment Dude Fewer New Yorkers. hmmm. January 8, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Reply | Report comment BobS I think the fact that abortions now account for more than 40% of all pregnancies result in abortions is symptomatic of the overall de-moralization of the culture in America. This is the result of people wanting to enjoy all the benefits of freedom to live as

you please without accepting any of the responsibilities that go along with theses freedoms. The 40+% who received abortions, and the Liberal left who support and promote peoples rights to abortions on demand have contributed to the degradation of society based on their philosophy of moral relativism. Most of these people want access to abortions so they dont have to face the consequences of their actions. I am not suggesting abstinence, although it would be the best. But, I am suggesting that people need to be held accountable for their actions and maybe they would give more thought to seeking the requisite precautionary measures or abstaining until they can. If you ask every one of those people if they would stick their hand into a running chain saw, what would their answer be? They would of course answer No. Why? Because the consequences are obvious and beyond what they would be willing to accept or endure. People need to apply this same mentality in all aspects of their lives. Are the potential negative ramifications something I can live with? Right now, people can have unprotected sex with little cause for concern because, hey, Ill just get an abortion if I get pregnant. No fuss, no muss. But, if the consequences were more obvious, perhaps they would give more consideration. January 8, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Reply | Report comment Don W. Right on BobS. One abortion is too high. People dont want to take responsibility for their behavior, so lets just kill the innocent child. It is an absolute sham that weve killed 51 million babies due to abortion in our country and that number continues to grow at a rapid rate!

January 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Reply | Report comment CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA) How many of these African-American and Latino children are YOU willing to take into your heart, life and home, give them the love and upbringing they deserve and raise them as your won? You have already? Is that what you are saying? If not then kindly STFU and continue to take orders from the Pope, but please keep it to yourself. January 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm Margaret Sanger Lets see if I have Dogmas logic correct. If I dont take care of your problem, then I am in the wrong? Weak logic and reasoning. Come up with something better, or, as you say, STFU. January 9, 2011 at 12:05 am Sharon Barnes @BoB S The 40+% who received abortions, and the Liberal left who support and promote peoples rights to abortions on demand have contributed to the degradation of society based on their philosopy of moral relativism. I am a conservative who supports a womens right to choose. I do not for one minute believe that I am contributing to the degradation of society. I assume you are male which means you, particularly, have no right to tell a woman what to do with her body. For that matter,

no one has the right to tell another human being what to do with her body. January 9, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply | Report comment Vicky Lets talk about your moral relativism. In the religious/conservative agenda, there is only right and wrong no gray area. How, then, do you explain the moral relativism when Sarah Palin announced Bristol was pregnant? The conservatives spun it as but shes keeping the baby! Thats a good thing! Meanwhile, Bill OReilly just 6 months(?) earlier was slamming Britney Spears teenage sister for getting pregnant. Face it, EVERYONE uses moral relativism to their advantage! January 9, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Reply | Report comment Moe Over 50 Million abortions how many of those human beings would have made this world a better place, i.e cure for cancer and any and all diseases. We will never know. God help us. January 8, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Reply | Report comment Kris Perhaps Moe. But you could make the same argument from a different perspective. It could be 50 million future Hitlers, or Saddam Husseins, or Charlie Mansons.. January 8, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Reply | Report comment

Frank Congrats, Kris. You are leading the 2011 Most Asinine Comment category with that little gem. January 8, 2011 at 3:57 pm Sharon Agreed January 9, 2011 at 6:38 pm M Peter Its an American holocaust!! January 9, 2011 at 3:28 am | Reply | Report comment 98ZJUSMC This was 41% yesterday, January 8, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Reply | Report comment lowerscat just plain satanic January 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Please leave mythology out of the discussion.

January 9, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Reply | Report comment furious Highest among blacks and Hispanics? Not surprising, as Planned Parenthood was founded by an ardent eugenecist. Their charter was to limit the number of undestirables (Southern and Eastern Europeans, Blacks, etc.) in the population. January 8, 2011 at 11:45 am | Reply | Report comment Jane Fulmer Abortion is just morally and ethically wrong on so many levels. It is destroying us with its callousness. But for those who think it is okay, why not just pay for contraception? It would be so much cheaper. Doctors and other medical providers could just bill the state. January 8, 2011 at 11:20 am | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes Contraceptives do fail from time to time. January 9, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Reply | Report comment KPMc Failed contraceptives dont account for 50%, 40% or even 30% abortion rates. Lazy, selfish pieces of trash do. January 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Sharon @KPMc: Lazy, selfish pieces of trash do. Do what, account for failed contraceptives or abortions? Jane Fullmer was saying that Taxpayers and doctors should pay for contraceptives, which do fail. I have been there. I suggest that all of you right-to-lifers go pay for contraceptives for a lazy, selfish piece of trash. Dont judge someone else until you have walked in her shoes. January 10, 2011 at 4:32 pm James Crow Too bad they dont all have abortions. Imagine what wed save on court system, incarceration, and welfare costs. January 8, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply | Report comment Alan Believe it or notthat was exactly Margaret Sangers philosophy. Margaret was the founder of Planned Parenthood January 8, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Reply | Report comment NAKED_TRUTH Too bad your mother didnt jab Miss Puss with a pointy wire hanger and yanked YOU out. January 9, 2011 at 12:59 am | Reply | Report comment Laura

Without self-mastery, there can be no self-donation. Put another way, unless I am able to control my passions and practice the techniques to defend myself, my dignity, against the world, the flesh and the devil, I am not free. Authentic freedom comes from the practice of the natural law written on human hearts, summarized in the Ten Commandments. Ladies, lets do the work of mastering ourselves, demanding the same of our men and our children! In this way we show TRUE LOVE, maintaining our human dignity in this bizarre historical eddy of human secularism which is destined to fall in on itself under its own weight. January 8, 2011 at 10:56 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron Amen, Laura! It all starts with personal responsibility and selfcontrol. If we had that, abortion might not go away, but it would be a MUCH smaller problem. January 8, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply | Report comment CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA) you can be secular and live a moral life. And so many people do. Religion to many is tantamount to superstition and ignorance which keeps people bogged down. Personal responsibility and ethic are not exclusive to religion. No need to shove religion down our throats please. And cut the self righteousness, we could care less. January 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Reply | Report comment

Emma agreed with you on so many levels! these people who are pro choice wouldnt dare adopt a black/latin baby especially in these tough economic times who are they trying to fool? and adoption are you kidding me? kids are getting beaten/abused in child care everyday and they fall through the cracks, and if you want to make a woman take on children when she clearly doesnt want them you are imposing the possibility of that child being harmed, then when the newstory of how a woman killed her five children is broadcast people say oh well if she didnt want to be a mother she shouldnt have had kids! well how about she didnt want to have kids but society got into her business and didnt want her to have an abortion! pro lifers are religious hypocrites and we all know it! ive never had the misfortune of having an abortion but i have had a couple of friends whove had and they didnt take the situation lightly i held their hands while they cried, because in the long run they knew they werent going to be good mothers at the time or maybe they would never be good mothers. January 10, 2011 at 11:15 am Sharon No, Emma, I wouldnt want a black or Latin baby. Id be afraid the mother had been abusing drugs. Why would I want to adopt a baby at all? Why dont you adopt all the abortions you have saved. January 10, 2011 at 4:35 pm

clarese No one wins with an abortion, however a better focus on pregnancy prevention is the best answer as well as the appropriate availability of it. However, there will be plenty on the right that will still spew the virtues of their faith and try to control peoples access to birth control with the same mundane arguments that they use to oppose abortion. January 8, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply | Report comment Jim You,Clarese,are an idiot. January 8, 2011 at 11:21 am | Reply | Report comment Alan M. Peter, MA, MA Jim, how does ad hominen contribute to the debate? Use logic, reasoning and evidence to prove your point! January 9, 2011 at 3:32 am clarese You disappoint me, I was hoping you had some kind of position on this argument. January 9, 2011 at 1:34 pm boomer

Yeah, because these decades of birth control education have DEFINATELY solved the problem January 8, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Reply | Report comment Caitlin Clarese, your statement is very fuzzy and very bigoted. Who are the right? Define terms. If you mean the Catholic Church, it is so bleeding-heart liberal that it opposes war, even in selfdefence; execution of fairly tried and convicted criminals; and abortion. It is in favor of natural family planning note PC natural, organic, eco-friendly family planning. Condoms are as lethal as plastic shopping bags in land-fill. The hormones in birth-control pills are excreted into the water table and drinking water. They poison fish. The Church also wants to keep the African-American and hispanic populations, even though most of them are not Catholic did I mention the Church opposes genocide??? January 8, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Reply | Report comment clarese Thats beautiful, it makes me just want to wake up and become Catholic. As for racist, I would recommend that you respond to some of these other posts that are celebrating the abortion rate as I said no one wins with an abortion. When I was referring to the right I meant any fundamentalist faith or ones that take up right of center issues of family planning. Should there be a condom that is not toxic to the environment or a birth control pill that doesnt hurt the fish in our oceans, lakes and streams,

the Catholic Church would still oppose it. I think this pretty much sums up your argument.You dont have to be a sixfooter. You dont have to have a great brain. You dont have to have any clothes on. Youre A Catholic the moment Dad came, Because Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate. Mighty Python, Meaning Of Life. January 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA) SOME Roman Catholics live in a world governed by fear, superstition and gory morbid fantasies ( Saints with their guts exposed giving messages, bleeding statues, questionable relicsetc ) then to make sure they blindly obey and not even dare to think to question they have the Hierarchy looming over them with arrogance and threats dictating their every move and enslaving their minds.. Worldwide the Church is losing people at an alarming rate, Brazil is now only 40% Catholic according to a recent study. Abortion is killing a life, but there have to be alternate ways of birth control as a matter of RESPONSIBILITY. But dont waste this on the Popes mules, you cant get brainwashed sheeple. January 10, 2011 at 11:38 am

REDFOX If you have ever wondered what happen to the 10 lost tribes of Israel, read your Bible. If I am not mistaken it started with the killing of children, by the mothers, in Samaria, the capital of the Northern Kingdom of the 10 tribes Makes for great reading, it reveals how to start the journey of being lost forever. January 8, 2011 at 10:25 am | Reply | Report comment CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA) The ten lost tribes are a myth, PLEASE, PLEASE keep the myth where it belongs, it has no place here. Stick to the topic. January 9, 2011 at 1:01 am | Reply | Report comment clarese WHO CARES January 9, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Reply | Report comment REDFOX The killing of children is the most telling factor of a nation or people. If you want your nation to survive and prosper you can not kill your children. January 8, 2011 at 10:08 am | Reply | Report comment DAN - T

I assume than we are to disregard China as an up and coming superpower? January 8, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Reply | Report comment NancyM Sex has consequences. Free love introduced in the 60s was always delusional. It isnt love and it certainly isnt free. The decision to have an abortion will haunt a woman her entire life. I had no idea. Sex isnt worth it, ladies. Think carefully. The solution to reducing abortion ignores the real societal problems Free Love. January 8, 2011 at 10:04 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron NancyM, that is the whole point. Prograessiives and communists wanted free love to turn into wholesale slaughter of babies. Wholesale slaughter of the elderly will be next. In the name of fiscal responsibility. Watch it happen. Only this week, Obama tried to sneak death panels into Obamacare. It was exposed, then dropped. Pure evil is what we are dealing with here. January 8, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply | Report comment CURB-YOUR-DOG(MA)

I just love the Republican fear mongering tacticsDeath panels ..LMFAO! The Republican trash knows no limits when it comes to their vile propaganda. They are Pro War, Pro Death penalty, but they are Pro-life what a bunch of hypocritical idiots. Low trash! January 8, 2011 at 5:34 pm Robert It will only haunt women of conscience and good nature, but for some of these shallow self absorbed open legged floozies, its nothing. Personal responsibility and principles are indeed important but some of these people are clueless January 8, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Reply | Report comment Reason Democrats are upset, not because babies are being killed, but because future moochers and democrat leftist voters are being killed. How are these leftist wackos going to be reelected if they continue to abort their future. Remember its those who call themselves liberals and democrats who are killing their own children, most conservatives and republicans refuse to do this. So the democrats turn to illegal aliens and getting people dependent on government to replinish their ranks. January 8, 2011 at 7:40 am | Reply | Report comment

Lurker Theres actually a hypothesis to explain this. Its called the Roe Effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_effect It basically says what youve mentioned. Supporters of abortion are eroding their political base. January 8, 2011 at 8:01 am | Reply | Report comment Sigmonde Its OK for the mother to kill the baby in the womb, but if the father of the baby kills the baby in the womb, he will be charged with murder. What would happen if the mother chose to allow the father to cause the baby to be aborted? January 8, 2011 at 6:33 am | Reply | Report comment MaryofAz If you took out the human condition we would have a perfect world. But what we have is imperfection, sin, selfishness, hedonism, disease, rape, murder and every other rotten thing you can come up with. That is being human, a fallen man. So you take our imperfection and direct your hubris on the unborn. You have no right to do that. They are innocents. January 8, 2011 at 4:03 am | Reply | Report comment Green Peace

Make abortion legal untill the fetus is 45 years old, If the mother has not killed it by then, It might deserve to live. January 8, 2011 at 2:34 am | Reply | Report comment josh Human babies that are alive should have the same right to life that we have. The baby in the womb is a growing living human being. What else could it be? This should be a very obvious point. The reason people dont get it is because of their worldview. This is a wordlview that states that personal peace and affluence is what is important. Children get in the way, so therefore, its ok to kill children. So children are killed for the sake of convenience in this country, and somehow it becomes a womans right, with a mantra of choice. If children can be killed for the sake of convenience, whats next for our country? January 8, 2011 at 2:15 am | Reply | Report comment Tony Syracuse Would you rather have this country look like India with millions of poor living in extreme poverty? Abortion may not be the best form of birth control, but it does work. The Catholic Church is broke and they cant take care of anyone, much less million more poor people. January 8, 2011 at 2:37 am | Reply | Report comment

Sigve India has poor people more because they are Hindiustic fatalists than because of lack of abortions. Yes there are poor people there, but you might be surprised that there are not as many as you think. If you actually went there, and not just saw the news reports. Journalists are not really known for seeking out the good news, and India has 3-4 times as many people as the US, and therefore should have 3-4 times as many depressing news to report without being worse. January 8, 2011 at 3:29 am Josh Yes if I had to choose between having a poor society or one that kills children, I would choose the poor society. You seem to prove my point. You prefer a rich society because your value is riches. You have bad values. Id encourage you to reconsider you values and start valuing human life. January 8, 2011 at 1:48 pm Sharon Barnes Until a child is viable outside the womb, it isnot a human being. At some time in the future, we are going to able to grow aborted babies in artificial wombs, which would change the debate considerably.

January 9, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Reply | Report comment Eliot I have a friend who was pro-abortion, she said because unborn babies arent human beings until she became pregnant herself and started having trouble in her 4th month. She stayed in the hospital for more than 2 months on complete bed-rest until her child could be born. Her daughter weighed less than 2 pounds at birth, and she is now a healthy 3 year old. My friend now understands that an unborn baby is just as human as you or I. I dont know any woman who has had children herself who thinks that babies arent human. January 9, 2011 at 3:08 pm MaryofAz Margaret Sanger had eugenics in the plan when Planned Parenthood was started. Look it up all you progressive proabortionists, its all there. If you support the slaughter of these black babies your support eugenics. You have blood on your hands but that doesnt seem to matter to you. When did your passion for defending murdering innocents enter your head? All you progressive atheists are the same, vacuous, without any true sense of right or wrong. What a creepy, ugly way to live your lives. January 8, 2011 at 12:21 am | Reply | Report comment unnecessary1

Forty-six percent of all births in the Bronx result in abortions the highest among the five boroughs, according to the report. Yea, huh? Proof read much? January 8, 2011 at 12:13 am | Reply | Report comment ave maria Another of Mayor Bloombergs New York success stories. Keeps the tourists coming to town.! January 8, 2011 at 12:07 am | Reply | Report comment Jim from Boston Who wrote that stupid headline? Pregnancies can be terminated by abortion, and pregnancies can end in abortion, but you cannot say that pregnancies result in abortion. How can a pregnancy CAUSE an abortion? Wake up Mr. Editor !! January 7, 2011 at 11:50 pm | Reply | Report comment DT Ironic how liberals are able to skew the facts when it suits their warped agendas. If a woman chooses to end a pregnancy, then the fetus is nothing more than a mass of non-specific cells. Yet, if a man were to beat that same woman on her way to the

abortion clinic, thus causing an abortion, then it would be assault and murder, Crazy how the Progressive mind works. January 8, 2011 at 2:15 am | Reply | Report comment cazzone But you need a pregnancy for an abortion, no? Its not just a coat hanger, you know. January 8, 2011 at 5:36 pm Liz Im not sure I believe in God but I do believe this is wrong. Maybe not murder, but a symptom of a very disturbed society. I think everyone on this comment board is too wrapped up in their ideology and religion and arent able to talk to each other about how to solve this issue, which only adds to the dysfunction. January 7, 2011 at 9:57 pm | Reply | Report comment twoiron Liz, one cannot compromise with evil. God is good. Abortion is murder a sin. God loves people (all are sinners), but hates sin. Much like slavery, this is an issue where there is no middle ground. Right now, sin is winning. Those who love God cant stand by and watch it happen without revulsion and anger. January 7, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Reply | Report comment DRS

twoiron..as a religious person myself, I have to say I think youve just proved Lizs point. Shes right. Can we not do better than just labeling it wrong as Christians? Can we not set aside our revulsion and anger and find a way to move forward in love? We need to lay down our swords here and start talking about intelligent and productive ways to be a part of the solution. LizIm open to dialog! January 7, 2011 at 11:22 pm Bob And God sanctions slavery and polygamy too. So, those things must represent what is good and love. Who is man to argue with God? These arguments make no sense unless viewed through the prism of human created religion and an imperfect (at best) understanding of our Creator. January 8, 2011 at 2:00 am twoiron DRS, What have I said that is untrue? Talk to those who sanction murder of innocent babies? Labeling good as good and evil as evil is no different than calling black, black and white, white. Bob, you need a Bible study. Bad. God does not sanction slavery (except submission to Him, rather than to ones self) or polygamy. January 8, 2011 at 7:22 am

Christian Dear Liz, Those religious and ideology folks are the only ones who help, give counseling, and free products that these women need to keep their babies. The government, on the other hand, will tax you and force you to pay, whereas the religious and ideological ones give out of the goodness of their hearts. Youve got it backwards, the religous and ideological know how to solve the problem, and we are doing it everyday! January 8, 2011 at 8:30 am Robert Leave out the religious dribble please! See it as an ethical issue. Yes Abortion is taking a human life. And it is a indicative of a corrupted society with corroded morals. The Bronx is the perfect place to see this in play. If self control is impossible for these people, then educate and provide birth control: i.e. CONDOMS. Religious people need to control their revulsion and anger which leads to extremism. Support the cause but keep the religion in church please. January 8, 2011 at 11:22 am sifi Very well put twoiron January 8, 2011 at 11:42 am To Bad

To bad all of the pro-abortion supporters mothers didnt make the tough choice and end their pregnancies. That way there wouldnt be any supports left except the old shriveled up hags that dont want to feel bad about their choice to kill a human. Oh snap, isnt that who NOW, Planned Parenthood, etc is populated with? January 7, 2011 at 9:32 pm | Reply | Report comment Green Peace This is something that is coming back to bite the democrat party and the chinese. Both beleve in abortions and both are finding out that they need the people that they are disposing of, The democrats for voters and the chinese for wives. ;( January 8, 2011 at 2:40 am | Reply | Report comment John Squyres You should take comfort in knowing that most of the abortions are on blacks and hispanics. January 7, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Reply | Report comment Joe how many more would there be if all these pregnancies came to fruition? January 8, 2011 at 2:03 am | Reply | Report comment ZEROID

Even wild animals dont kill 39% of their newborn. The human female is truly wicked and heartless. BEWARE !!! January 7, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Reply | Report comment Laura How heartless and wicked is the man who took her to bed for his own gratification, then winked and told her to go solve that problem herself, Zeroid? Perhaps, if our men get spines and make wives of us in order to make a stable home for future children, the problem would be a lot further toward being solved, dont you agree? When was the last time you heard a guy say No to a sexual advance of a woman because it was the RIGHT THING TO DO? January 8, 2011 at 11:06 am | Reply | Report comment Simple_Simon Okay then this is the message to stop the need for abortion: OPEN YOUR BIBLES AND CLOSE YOUR LEGS! 9and that goes for the men just as well, kept in yer pants January 9, 2011 at 12:52 am Robert Yeah Zeroid and its a male doctor sticking the hose up her watoosha and making the baby into hamburger meat. January 8, 2011 at 11:25 am | Reply | Report comment

ladini Actually, this is barely over the (previous?) national average of around 1/3rd. I dont like it at all, but lets face it, most people dont live or move to NYC with the intent of starting a family. January 7, 2011 at 8:58 pm | Reply | Report comment floodman And doesnt our new health care plan pay for abortions? January 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Reply | Report comment Liz nevermind the one i posted at 8:11!! I didnt mean to post lol January 7, 2011 at 8:39 pm | Reply | Report comment Richard Cappetto Sick January 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Reply | Report comment Mary Wright Pippert Has no one ever heard of birth control. Why is it we have raised two generations of people that are either too stupid to know where babies come from or have zero morals. January 7, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Reply | Report comment Laura

Thats the beauty of birth control according to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills, Mary. Teach our youth that theyll be fine with contraceptives, all of which have failure rates when used perfectly (and teens are far from perfect users), then be there to fix that problem when they find themselves pregnant. Get it? Its a grand, evil, scam! If the poor girl bravely goes on to have her child, theres a good chance that person will be raised by the state and the lie will perpetuate itself all over in the next generation. WE NEED OUR FAMILY STRUCTURE TO SURVIVE! PRAY AND WORK FOR ONE MAN ONE WOMAN, TRADITIONAL MARRIAGES FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICA! January 8, 2011 at 11:18 am | Reply | Report comment eibis4me The entire planet is better off when liberals kill their spawn. January 7, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply | Report comment John How does the Laci Peterson law come into play here? How can a pregnant mother kill her unborn child, legally, while anyone else who kills her and child in womb be charged with 2 homicides? I dont get it. The amount of abortions in this country are staggering and really, really, sad. Says a lot about a society that does not care for the unborn. Use protection if you dont want kids. And dont give me the baloney that protection sometimes fails, etc These are almost always convenience

abortions, not because of medical reasons, failed protection, etc. Convenience and lack of responsibility for their actions. January 7, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Example 1: It was the womans choice. Example 2: It was not the womans choice. What else dont you get, John? January 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Reply | Report comment John It does not make sense. You cant simply chose to kill an unborn child and not be charged a crime and yet I would be charged a crime. It is not even rational. Choices have consequences. When the fetuss head is coming out, you puncture its skull and kill it. No crime. I do exactly the same, even if you tell me to, and it is a crime. Really? We are going to go there? January 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm AnyHuman An unborn child has human DNA, yet is genetically distinct from the mother. What dont YOU get? I suppose I have a choice of whether or not to shoot someone and the choice is mine alone. January 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm

leslie Heres what I dont get. Takes two to tango and make a baby. Man doesnt want baby and he is forced to pay anyway and arrested if he doesnt. Woman doesnt want baby and she gets to kill it, and then she gets a pat on the back for making the tough choice. January 7, 2011 at 7:22 pm Kim Baliey Knee Grows are vermin. Try giving these parasites Condoms and B. Control Pills January 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm LL Example 1: It was the womans choice. Example 2: It was not the womans choice. What else dont you get, John? You are very poor at Logic. So a HUMAN or not is defined by a woman. January 7, 2011 at 9:04 pm Patrick William Visconti so its the woman who gets to decide whether its a human life or not? A woman intending to conceive surely thinks of the developing fetus inside of her as a life from the moment of

conception, or the moment a pregnancy test is positive, while a woman who wishes to abort her pregnancy thinks of the developing fetus as a problem. Here i thought science was working on telling us when human life truly exists much easier now that women merely have to say the word. its like magic! January 7, 2011 at 10:49 pm JV So if the woman decides that she doesnt want a baby, its not a life? Otherwise it is? Seems terribly subjective. January 7, 2011 at 11:10 pm Lolo Its about the womans choice. Peterson had her choice violated. January 7, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Reply | Report comment Lucie Brigandi disgusting! January 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Reply | Report comment Mister Fankool so get off your ass and do something about it! otherwise kindly STFU! January 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm | Reply | Report comment

GunTotingLib Go look at the report. The story leaves out one important fact.THIS IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ABORTIONS IN NY IN 10 YEARS!!!!!!! The numbers were in the 90,000+ from 2000 to 2008. January 7, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Reply | Report comment J Man, NY is just going downhill. January 7, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Reply | Report comment Robert That might be the only good to come out of this report.I think it does continue to show the continued hypocrisy of tolerant New York toward the rights of the unborn American.The entire state is the backward leftist version of Missisippi in the 50s. January 7, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Reply | Report comment J Yeah, all that mixing of races and freedom is just really horrible. January 7, 2011 at 5:47 pm F THE UNBORN HAS NO LEGAL RIGHTS LIFE.EVER!

ABORTION WAS LEGAL BEFORE ROE VS. WADE, DUH! HOW COULD YOU PRO-LIFE FASCISTS NOT KNOW THIS ALREADY? UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO DONATE YOUR MONEY TO PREGNANT WOMAN AND HELP HER TAKE PROPERLY CARE OF HERSELF, HER FETUS AND RAISE THE CHILD ONCE BORNA WOMANS ABORTION IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. YOU PRO-LIFE FASCISTS CANT EVEN STOP OR PREVENT A WOMANS ABORTION W/O HER PERMISSION, DUH AGAIN. EVEN THE BIBLE SUPPORTS ABORTION, READ THE FOOTNOTE FOR NUMBERS 5:11-31 SAYING TO CAUSE A WOMB TO MISCARRY OR BARRENNESS. January 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm J Now now, F, let us all remember what Jesus said about abortion. January 7, 2011 at 5:50 pm MaryofAz Apparently you arent aware that Margaret Sanger had eugenics in the plan when Planned Parenthood was started. Look it up Gun, its all there. If you support the slaughter of these black babies your support eugenics. You have blood on your hands. January 7, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Reply | Report comment

August The 60 million babies aborted could be working , paying taxes, spending money in their communities; instead of the 30 million illegals working, not paying taxes, and sending all their money to Mexico, while collecting every welfare benefit possible. January 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Reply | Report comment Harshad Patel Could not have said better. Although, I am pro-lifer, I dont want stupid and ignorants polluting the Human gene pool. Democracy is healthy only when all participants have functioning brains and ability to observe, comprehend, analyze, and reason.Otherwise the shrewd politicians will use them as pawns for their own power and gains. January 7, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Reply | Report comment waltinseattle or they could be recruits to streetgangs and a life of drugs and alcoholism January 7, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Reply | Report comment Jenifer If you have lied, Stolen lusted or hated God sees you as a liar, a thief and an adulterous murder. If God judgest you by the 10 commandments and you broke just 1 you will be guilty and Go

to hell. God is rich in mercy and sent his only son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for the sins of those that repent and trust in him. So repent, turn away from your sins and trust that Jesus was fully God and fully man and took the punishment that you rightly deservied. Read your Bible and Obey what it says. January 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Reply | Report comment August My Gawd, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, is all about LOVE & Going Fast! I have no time on this planet for an EVIL HATEFUL GOD like yours. January 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Reply | Report comment adopted4life God hates ALL things evil. Yet, he is so LOVING that He has made a way for every evil persons redemption by His own blood shed (and all humans fall into the evil category, because all us us fall short of Holy God). Those that have received redemption and justification by Gods grace want to reach out and share this amazing news with with people still stuck in the depravity of this world and all the consequences that come with that. People who do choose abortion suffer consequences emotionally and physically. If someone had the cure for cancer, but held onto it because they feared people would think they were arrogant to say this was the only way to cure that disease that would be ridiculous! Telling people about Christ is not arrogant, its the most loving act anyone can do for another. The God who created us and knows every detail about us, also gave

us a cure for our wicked/depraved hearts the only cure is Christ. Once you have been adopted by Christ and He is your Father, you may see earthly adoption as a more reasonable action to unwanted pregnancies, rather than murder. January 7, 2011 at 5:26 pm J I agree with adopted4life. Christ has made sure all the orphanages are empty, and there are no children without placement in foster homes. Christ also removes hard water stains, chewing gum from carpet, and cures dandruff. I used Christ to spackle my walls, and they look just as new as the day we moved in! Apply Christ to your insoles, and it will get rid of bunions! There is only one answer, and that is Christ. Ask any mathematician, this is a FACT. There is only one way, and that is Christ, which is why there are no other religions in the world. Christ ask for it by name at your local grocer! Now with 100% more niacin! January 7, 2011 at 5:30 pm adopted4life Christ is the only answer to our sin and depravity. We live in a fallen and depraved world and there will always be sickness and problems. If we are Gods children we are called to seek justice, encourage the oppressed, defend the cause of the fatherless (orphans), and plead the case of the widow (that is just a few things we are called to make right). I have 2 biological children, but my family is in the process of adopting a child from

Ethiopia we are actually trying to make a difference. You cant just be against abortion, without being for ADOPTION. What are you doing to make a difference for the better in this world?? January 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm J Adopted: youre getting an IMPORT? Whats wrong with you? BUY AMERICAN! January 7, 2011 at 5:48 pm adopted4life J, you didnt answer my question what are you doing for the benefit of others? What are you doing to help the 143 million orphan crisis. Its a shame you have to criticize someone who actually is making a difference. A critical nature benefits no one. Look inside yourself and see how you can make a difference for the better in this world, rather than living a life merely for your selfish interests and ego. My family helped numerous times in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, Ive been from L.A. to New Orleans, to New England to France to Africa (over several years) on mission projects. Once again, what are you doing to help others, rather than being critical? January 7, 2011 at 5:54 pm August

Killing your baby the day BEFORE its due: Just a regular medical procedure Killing your baby the day after its born: Youre a Evil ColdBlooded Murderer January 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Reply | Report comment J Smothering it in the crib six weeks later: Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. January 7, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply | Report comment waltinseattle Killing babies, legal but controversial Condemning the unwanted to a life here in hell, no problemo That is so Chriatian CHARITY!!!! January 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm SirGareth Popular morality has never been trustworthy, remember in 1850 there was nothing really wrong with owning another human being. In 1941 Jews were subhuman and the most educated people the earth has ever seen felt there was nothing wrong with exterminating them like vermin. Today our popular morality holds that mothers may kill their children its called choice None of this popular morality is

homespun. It is cultured by those who control the mean of forming popular opinion; and always for their own profit. January 7, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Reply | Report comment Todd A woman becomes a mother at conception. All pregnancies terminate, some with a live birth, others end in death at the hands of people who burned away their consicience. I dare anyone contemplating abortion to view an abortion, and to view an ultrasound of their baby. Look him or her in the eye and tell them how you are doing them a favor, or are you really doing it for yourself. abortion no dot org January 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Reply | Report comment Colin Todd, you are 100% spot on. My wife and I went for a visit today and were able to listen to our unborn childs heart beat. The last I checked, a heart beat indicates LIFE. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves and will answer for their actions eventually. Any libs out there willing to admit they are against gun rights (guns kill right?) and for abortions???? January 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Reply | Report comment

anywoman Answer for their actions to your god, right, Colin? Not everyone believes in your god. Not everyone is scared of your hell. January 7, 2011 at 5:11 pm J As a lib, I am for both gun rights and abortions. I prefer to see if theres a way to combine the two. January 7, 2011 at 5:25 pm Tom Todd, Theres two people posting here that Id volunteer to be first in line, but theyll never agree. January 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Reply | Report comment J My wife and I always think of her fetuses as babies, not just inert human flesh. Its a person. That way, when we get an abortion, we feel the thrill of having murdered a baby. Its a rush. January 7, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Reply | Report comment

MaryofAz Satan has a plan for you J. January 7, 2011 at 11:14 pm MaryofAz God Bless you Todd January 7, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Reply | Report comment gary There must be a faster way to get rid of minorities. Go abortion. Keep my neighborhood safe from the disgusting darkies. Go Obama, he loves abortion. January 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Reply | Report comment Heartland Patriot New York is one of the states that is set to lose a House seat in Congressshrinking population will do thator at minimum, growing at a lower rate than some other statesNew Yorkers may indeed be fine with that population-wise but I bet they wont be as fine with the loss of political power in the House thanks, NYC, nothing but hearts for you! January 7, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Reply | Report comment G

If that happens its only because a couple of million illegal immigrants were not counted !! January 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman I wondered why there were so many dim bulbs on this page. Its because its been linked by Drudge! Cheers, dittoheads! January 7, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Reply | Report comment twoiron @anywoman, Even Huffpo, DU, and DailyKos trolls would have a hard time defending the wholesale slaughter of innocents that you so adamantly defend. One thing I will grant you is you curse less often than most Liberals. January 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Thanks, twoiron. You smell better than most conservatives. January 7, 2011 at 4:36 pm Christopher NAME CALLING.ITS ALL YOUVE GOT, ISNT? January 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Reply | Report comment

anywoman Hey, Rush listeners call themSELVES dittoheads. I thought I was paying a compliment. What should I call you, Chris? January 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm Pete Smythe Anywoman obviously is ignorant of what a dittohead is. Let me toss you a nugget of wisdom, know of that which you speak lest you illustrate your lack of knowledge. FYI, Dittohead doesnt mean you agree with Rush, or anyone else. It merely means that you agree that free and open intellectual discussion is the best method to form consensus around difficult topics. January 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm anywoman The Google disagrees with you about the word dittohead, Pete. January 7, 2011 at 5:01 pm Tom Bigley You can always tell when a lberal knows they are wrong. Its when their argument consists of name calling and childish insult. January 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Reply | Report comment

Tom Thats funny anywoman. What type of bulb do you consider yourself? January 7, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Reply | Report comment Colin Liberals claim they are for the defenseless. Can anywoman explain how an unborn child is not defenseless without ad hominem arguments? January 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Another one who demands to be convinced. Like I explained downthread, Im not interested in convincing you of anything other than the right to let me make my own choices. Conservatives claim they are against big government. January 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm Colin So your answer was No, I cannot logically explain how something with a heartbeat is not a living person Thank you for the clarification. Shockingly, before we had a big government, murder was illegal January 7, 2011 at 5:01 pm

anywoman So dont have an abortion, Colin! Your choice is clear! January 7, 2011 at 5:03 pm anotherwoman But thats a straw man argument, anywoman. Obviously, with a 40 percent abortion rate, you ALREADY possess the right to make your own choice. In other words, no one and no law is standing in the way of you having an abortion if you want one. So exactly what are you really arguing for? Do you want those that disagree with you to shut up, to not have their own beliefs, to not be allowed to speak their mind? If you are so secure in your own beliefs, you would not feel threatened by this or feel the need to imply that anyone who does not agree with abortion is stupid or cannot think for themselves. January 7, 2011 at 5:12 pm anywoman Anotherwoman, I hope you agree that anti-choicers should be secure enough in their own beliefs to trust that many women will choose to carry to term, and they should not be so threatened by the availability of abortion that they would deny women a choice. Or are all these men afraid that women wont carry their children without a legal requirement that they do so? January 7, 2011 at 5:18 pm anotherwoman

Anywoman (please excuse the position of this reply, I am not getting a reply button on your post) No one posting here can prevent you from having an abortion. It is not at all likely that our government would be successful in any attempt to outlaw abortion. What I believe is that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs, and should be able to openly express their ideas. Responding to this by calling people stupid or herdthinkers is not proof that your beliefs are correct and does nothing to convince anyone of anything. January 7, 2011 at 5:34 pm anywoman anotherwoman, we totally agree that people should be able to express their ideas. I have no problem with people expressing their personal idea that they, personally, should not choose abortion. What I have a problem with is people insisting that their opinions should be codified into law and applicable to me and every other woman in the country. I hope this clears it up if it has been unclear to you. January 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm mongo @anywoman: Or are all these men afraid that women wont carry their children without a legal requirement that they do so? Interesting, so if they are the mans children Im sure youd be OK with the man denying you aborting his child?

January 7, 2011 at 5:57 pm anywoman That makes no sense, Mongo. January 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm Mark Peter, MA, MA Anywoman, how does ad hominen contribute to the furtherance of the debate? Why not use logic, reasoning and evidence to refute their arguments? January 9, 2011 at 3:37 am | Reply | Report comment dee harley Thirty-nine percent? Thats it? Cmon, people, we can do better than that. Lets get that number up to 50 percent by MLK Day. I have a dream! January 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Reply | Report comment Jeb60 Think of all of the future crimes prevented! January 7, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Reply | Report comment George Im not a woman, and I try not to judge, but to think so many are killed, makes me ill.

January 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply | Report comment SukieTawdry Well, as long as theyre aborting the right people (you know, the human weeds), New York is doing Margaret Sanger proud. January 7, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Mack The Knife Look out for Miss Lotty Laynyah and that ole Lucy Brown Abortion kills. And lets get something straight. Roe v. Wade was not a constitutional ammendment, but rather a decision rendered by appointed by judges. Ive read throughout this thread idiots say the constitution allows abortions. January 7, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Reply | Report comment Bluemeanie Now if only we can find a way to abort the Democrats who werent terminated prior to birth. January 7, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Reply | Report comment twoiron

@Bluemeanie, no abortion is a good abortion, but it is ironic to think that if all Liberals were aborted, there would be no more abortions. January 7, 2011 at 4:05 pm | Reply | Report comment waltinseattle feel free to convert them after they are born January 7, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete I am sorry, but to be glad or consider this not such a bad thing just because you believe the aborted baby to be a different political faction is disgusting. I am a conservative, however if others who claim themselves conservative rejoice over news like this, i would be remorse to claim that title. A true conservative understands the beauty and complexity of life no matter what race color religion or political discourse of the individual. To anyone this number should be astounding, whether you believe it is the right of the mother or not, almost 50% of the population is shocking and unacceptable. To rejoice in the travesty of this genocide is almost as disgusting as the amount of life wasted. January 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Reply | Report comment Ronald Reagan

Anywoman is imune to factual and logical arguments. Anywomanif a fetus has a heart beat at 5 weeks old and you have an abortion after that period, do you think you are killing another human being? January 7, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Your school lunches sucked. January 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Reply | Report comment Ronald Reagan Anywoman is imune to factual and logical arguments. January 7, 2011 at 3:55 pm anywoman And your Presidential Physical Fitness Challenge was a joke. January 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm mongo Why were they not Free enough for you mooch January 7, 2011 at 6:01 pm J That wig wasnt fooling anyone.

January 7, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman I thought he just colored his hair with shoe polish, J. January 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm Jasper Ball-Baggins No wonder, then, that liberals are so interested in open borders. Theyre so busy killing their own they have to import future democrats. Thank you, New York, for preventing hundreds of thousands of poor, broke, dead-beat, reflexively liberal dolts from inhabiting the planet and bloating the welfare lines, wick rolls, and voting booths of our fine country. This is one guy who fully supports your rush to abort your progeniture. January 7, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Reply | Report comment Nick This is a Bad thing why? Do you really want these idiots spawning and sucking on your tax dollars? January 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete Almost 50% should shock anyone. Doesnt matter if they have different political views as you (an assumption being they never got the chance to vote).

this number is ASTOUNDING! It is a genocide of terrible proportions. If you are a human being this number should shock you. especially if you consider yourself conservative. January 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Reply | Report comment Fred in NJ Abortion is the most cost effective crime reduction system there is. The math doesnt lie. January 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete that is making another assumption, based on the criminal dealings of someone who never was. liberals use this thought mentality. i dont know you, but i doubt you want to consider yourself liberal thinking. the real story is the number which were murdered, not what you think they would be doing 18 years down the line. what if the next einstien was aborted? January 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm joysimone Where are all you appalled people when these unwanted children are being brutalized by their parents, dying starved and beaten up 3-7 years later an even worse fate. Yup just as I thought nowhere to be found, you only care about cute babies but after they turn say hummm 3, youre done.

January 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Reply | Report comment ericdb Nope, that is incorrect. We are still right there. Nice dramatization though. January 7, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman And by still right there, you mean that you are supporting public education, food stamps, and child welfare services budgets, right, Eric? Right? January 7, 2011 at 3:02 pm cajun pete @ anywoman I agree with your view that your body is your personal property. however, you are making your case worse by your misguided statements. January 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm ericdb Actually I support caring families, helping each other in the community, education on all levels, and devoting my time to

helping others. Your problem is that you think the government has to supply all of the above mentioned. January 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm mongo @anywoman And yourself? What have you sacrificed of your own? Youre right do away with those programs. Well? So far by your staements in thsi thread you have established that you are an overweight, manless, child hater who looks a gift horse in the mouth over a free lunch and doesnt want to support programs fo rth edisadvantaged and abused sounds liek youre a shining example to the world. January 7, 2011 at 6:04 pm anywoman overweight, manless, child hater I thought conservatives never resorted to baseless name-calling and that their arguments were based on logic, reason, the Federalist Papers, and Adam Smiths The Wealth of Nations. Or is it just that you cant comprehend of a feminist being anything but these stereotypes? January 7, 2011 at 6:13 pm Nick

joysimone.that was truly an asinine statement. January 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Reply | Report comment gina Joysimone, maybe you are unaware of the huge effort expended to help parents who might consider abortion and their children. I volunteered for several years at a crisis pregnancy center, where our focus was helping the moms and dads make good life decisions (in education, career, parenting, and relationships) so the kids had better lives. By studying videos, books, and other educational activities, they earned points to get furniture, clothes, diapers, baby food, formula, etc. Several times we were able to help parents get cars, thanks to donors. We spent a lot of time helping parents consider their options to get better jobs and manage their money so they could provide for the kids. We helped them learn parenting and relationship skills to prevent abuse. We also helped those who were interested to make adoption plans, though we never pushed it. Lots of people devote countless hours in nearly every city across America at crisis pregnancy centers. They arent interested in recognition, so youve probably never heard about them. They are too busy working to make life better for the less fortunate. January 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman

If you arent interested in recognition and you are too busy working to make lives better for the less fortunate, why did you piously describe your many good works, Gina? And oh by the way, have you checked in lately with any of the women you coerced into keeping the baby? How are their lives going? Did you prevent abuse? Do they have enough baby food and formula? Is Daddy still around? Yeah, youre a real miracle worker. And I bet you arent interested in telling everyone at church all about it! January 7, 2011 at 5:48 pm mongo @anywoman if youre such a giver why are you wasting money on an internet connection whining on here about how mauch you assume someone else isnt doing instead of putting that money where your fat mouth is? Too bad you werent aborted. January 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm anywoman Im touching myself and thinking of you, Mongo. January 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm Juneau Wow, Gina! I think you really hit a nerve with anywoman. She moved right into attack mode, and she made sure to cover all the

big points you knowhow anyone who is pro-life is sanctimonious, doesnt really care about what happens to the baby after the birth, and God forbid, goes to churchGood job, Gina, on all fronts! Come on, anywoman, arent you going to attack me for patting myself on the back for patting Gina on the back? January 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm G Not a bad thing that the State is paying for abortions, look how much money is being saved on welfare etc.! January 7, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Reply | Report comment ericdb I believe there is no all or nothing answer here. I believe that there is a fundamental difference between taking a morning after pill and excreting a blastocyte, and the brutal dismemberment of a unborn child, with a fully developed nervous system, with vacuum claws. I have zero emotional attachment to a blastocyte, but I cannot watch a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion without crying and being empathetic as a human being. It is only a matter of time. As technology progresses, and we can determine when the nervous system develops, and emotions can be seen on the face of the unborn child, we will find an ethical line. Too bad so many babies had to experience an intense, painful, and abrupt ending to live before we find that line. January 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Reply | Report comment

gina @ericdb: The time you speak of is now. We know exactly when the nervous system develops: starting in the third week of life. And yes, babies in utero can already be seen to struggle and show pain on video during an abortion. You say you feel no emotional attachment to a blastocyte. Maybe its the cold, clinical name, or the fact that human eyes cannot see the thriving life that begins at the moment of conception. Immediately, a new, unique DNA double helix is created. Facial features, sex, hair color, eye color, height, build, etc.all are determined in an instant, and from that instant, cells divide and differentiate into types rapidly. It is this vibrant, tiny life that is thoughtlessly flushed down the toilet so often as a result of a morning-after pill. Just because it is smaller than the head of a pin does not mean that it is not an important human being with the same Divine spark you can see in babies further along. January 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Reply | Report comment Ken Hodges the only good I can think of about this is that there should now be 41% less democrats in the future for NYC. By the way, they

do have condoms and the pill in NYC, right?? Are these people just too stupid to use them? January 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Reply | Report comment Hans This is not totally bad news since most abortion recipients are democrats. Fewer democrats voting and on the dole is a good thing. January 7, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Reply | Report comment Jeff Myers As tragic as this abortion rate is, at least it is liverals aborting future liberals. God fearing conservatives would never murder their own! Pray for liberal repentence! January 7, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Reply | Report comment waltinseattle No, several decades ago conservatives saw fit to have women of low morality fixed so they could not bear children. But lets not mention condoms, cause sex is from the devil, except when its a child of a radical wing family of the Talibanus Americanus January 7, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Reply | Report comment tom rillef

whatever!!! January 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Reply | Report comment Juanita Valdez Does the unborn child have separate DNA from the mother? Yes, it does. It is not a mole, a tumor, a kidney, or anything else that is the mothers. It is a different human. Killing it extinguishes life. If they unborn childs DNA was left at a crime scene, the mother would not be guilty of the crime. It is NOT her DNA. January 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Sorry, Im busy imagining how an embryo could commit a crime. That would make for one heck of an episode of CSI, Juanita! January 7, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Reply | Report comment Juneau Hm. I tried to leave a longer comment, but the page refreshed, and I lost it all. Guess thats my God telling me to just shut it. That being said, Ill try to keep this short and sweet. If Ive pegged your demographic, @anywoman, youll wake up someday and look at yourself in the mirror, or perhaps look at your own children, and your heart will change. Being a feminist is about supporting women through unwanted or

unplanned pregnancies, not leading them along telling them they wont feel anything for the cluster of cells theyre removing from their bodies. Being tolerant means respecting peoples religious views, as well. You are not tolerant by any stretch of the imagination, but my God tells me to walk in love the way Jesus did, even when my brain has less-nice things to say in reply to many of your comments. I will say a prayer for you to open your heart and mind and understand that people who want to protect the rights of unborn children are not evil. I believe there will be a day of reckoning, and I hope that Jesus will say to me, Well done. Perhaps then, when its your turn, you will wish you were a bit more tolerant and not so dismissive of dissenting points of view. January 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm anywoman Do you hear yourself, Juneau? What if I told you that one day I thought you would change YOUR mind and realize that forced births are cruel to mother and child (and not every unwanted baby is given up for adoption, most are abused and neglected), and that you would wish you had supported a womans right to choose what happened to her body? Youd say that was ridiculous and you would never change your mind, right? Well, thats exactly how I feel about you. And your Jesus. January 7, 2011 at 2:59 pm Juneau

Yes, I hear myself, anywoman. Id like to know if you hear yourself? Are you proud of yourself? What values and principles are you upholding? What moral code do you live by? Finally, Id bet you dont have children. Otherwise, the words, forced birth, probably would not have entered your mind. I just cant imagine a mother saying those words. Ten years ago, I was pro-choice, telling myself Id never have an abortion, but someone else can make that choice. Then I realized how much of a COWARD I was because its very hard to be a strong, prolife woman today. And forget about even bringing up Jesus! Heads start to spin 360-degrees! Wowanywomanforced births, really? Youre actually typing the words, forced birth, as if giving birth is worse than CHOOSING to abort a baby. Is it the stretch marks that bother you or is there something else that makes giving LIFE to a baby WORSE than CHOOSING to take it? And yes, He is my Jesus, and Im proud to say it. Id say I was sorry if my belief in Jesus offends you, but I dont really care. Mother Teresa said, It is tragedy that a child must die so that you can live as you wish. I expect you will have something insulting to say about Mother Teresas God, too. January 7, 2011 at 4:20 pm anywoman Get down off your cross, Juneau. Your belief in Jesus doesnt offend me. Your insistence that I make the same choices as you, on the other hand, does. January 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm

Juneau I am not insisting you make the same choices as me; never even implied it. I said I believe your mind will change; once you have a child or once you realize the world does not revolve around you. Are you too rigid in your thinking to believe that couldnt happen? I used to be, too. Thats why I asked what moral code you followed? Im interested in knowing what value system leads a woman to decide that enduring a 9-month pregnancy is more abhorrent than choosing to kill an unborn baby. Or perhaps you feel as I used to you wouldnt have an abortion, but others should be given the right. If this is the case, I challenge you to live your own morals and not those imposed on us. And insulting my beliefs in God and Jesus by telling me that I should get off my cross (i.e.; not act morally superior) is a tired argument used by people who wish someone could really SHOW them the face of God, so they wouldnt have to wonder if He really existed. Its a faithless person in search of God. Been there, too. I recognize you like Im looking at myself in the mirror, except perhaps, youre a bit more offensive than I wouldve been. I dont think Id have the nerve to tell someone to get off your cross. You obviously have courage at the keyboard; only you will know if you can be courageous when people are actually watching. January 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm anywoman Youre backpedaling. First you say that due to some sort of mystical religious conversion, youve changed your mind and concluded that women should not have a choice. Then you say

that you hope I undergo a similar conversion. Then you say that no, you werent trying to insist I make your choices. Um, no, you were just smugly assuring me that Id come around to your way of thinking. I guess theres a difference, but I wouldnt want to figure it out. My mind wont change once I have a child because I will not have a child. As for your crack that I must believe the world revolves around me, isnt your belief in a personal lord and savior pretty doggone self-important? Go pass out tracts or something. Have you ever actually saved a soul over the Internet? January 7, 2011 at 5:31 pm Juneau Wow. First, again, I never insisted you change your mind. I said I believed you would, and even said I thought you would given maturity or childbirth of your own. There IS a difference, so stop trying to make it sound like I dont know what Im talking about. Second, of course you wont/dont have any children. Thats why it appears you are unable to assign value to the life of an unborn child. Third, being saved is not about Hey, Jesus is mine now not yours! I am so darn special! What a joke of a statement. Do yourself a favor and do a little research on the subject. Youll find out how much (more) you just discredited yourself. Fourth, I love the idea of saving souls over the Internet, but I dont save souls. Jesus does. And I suppose He could choose any means Hed like to do so. And just for fun, would

you please explain (last time Ill ask, I promise) what moral code you follow in your life? Is it mans law? A higher power? January 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm anywoman Why does it bother to you to know that somewhere out there, a woman has no children, no desire to have children, no religion, and no desire to have religion? In a completely unrelated question, does your husband do 50 percent of the housework? January 7, 2011 at 6:03 pm Juneau How old are you? Id guess somewhere beyond college but short of actually having paid off your student loans. It really does not bother me that you want no children or religion. I believed like you, and I thought I was quite evolved in my thinking. Funny how life throws you the curve balls and suddenly you realize everything that was important and meaningful is now displaced. Ah, but perhaps youre an evolved human, and we sillies will someday stop with all this save the baby and save your soul stuff. In the meantime, I will continue to try to understand the detached, clever way you and other self-proclaimed supporters of womens rights defend your choice. I assume you simply do not believe an unborn child deserves the full life value we assign to those who are born? If you do, then do you feel the womans life is more valuable, since she can choose to abort the baby?

Im sure youve spent a long time considering your position and feel its the right one. You still havent answered my question about what moral compass guides you but instead tried to turn my question into a commentary about me (i.e.; Why does it bother you if there are women who want no children or religion). I must say, operating under no official moral law sure makes decisions like choice easier and makes life more fun. Hope it works out for you. January 7, 2011 at 7:30 pm Truth Abortion is murder. Plain and simple. However, there is a silver lining. The degenerates who have them (not the medical legit ones) you know the losers who just cant take responsibility? We do not want those people repopulating anyway and spreading their illogical liberal ideologies. I still feel horrible for those poor children that are murdered for convienience. You people should be ashamed. January 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm | Reply | Report comment Jean Liberals arent the only one having abortions. Women with money just go to an OB/GYN earlier and a D&C is done. Those numbers arent included in the statistics. So folks, hate to tell you but the numbers are alot higher than that. People just wont admit to it. January 7, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Reply | Report comment

Darius How is a D&C not considered an abortion? January 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm Christopher Open Letter to our friendthe Pro-Choice Feminist. How come we as a nation can pass laws governing what you do with your body when it comes to murdering another person.or getting drunk and driving a car. I mean you are doing those things with your body, arent you? And we have no problem passing a law that says a man cant (using his body) rape a woman. Right? You would agree that those are all valid laws, yes? So there is obviously precedent where we can tell you what to do with your bodyas it pertains to hurting others. So then the arguement is not about old white men passing laws that govern your body and what you do with it. This is strictly about whether or not what is inside the woman is another person or not. Another U.S. citizen with all the same rights to life liberty and the pursuitas you do. Ill ask you the same question..When is a person offically dead.when their heart stops beating? when the brain ceases activity? So if we can legally declare someone dead when those two things stop happening, then cant we legally declare them alive when they start. And if I am not mistaken, those things tend to occur very early in the first trimester. See? I defeated all your BS arguments and didnt have to invoke God once.

Lets get to the heart of the issue. You hate men. You hate that they can leave after they find out about the unwanted baby. And in a desperate move to keep the loser around most women rush to the free clinic. January 7, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Chris, the thing is that weve already decided as a society that women have the right to choose. Your belief that women should choose life is fine for you, and I hope it is shared by any woman you may accidentally impregnate. But you do not have the right to make that choice for me. Sorry. Oh, and actually, I just hate men like you. January 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Anywoman, Youll go kicking and screaming to your grave with your sickness, hiding behind worn out cliches that are excuses, not rational thought or sound critical thinking. I wonder if people like you possess a soul? Oh well. January 7, 2011 at 2:10 pm anywoman

Well, then, well both die happy, Tom. Me with my beliefs, and you with your blessed assurance that I will go to hell for them. See you there! January 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm adopted4life Im glad that you have a voice and can speak on your own behalf. But who will speak on behalf of the precious unborn children in regard to their rights about their life and their body??? I write as a women who is thankful that someone spoke on behalf of me. January 7, 2011 at 2:19 pm ricky anywoman, the father should have a choice in what happens during the pregnancy. It is not fair to a potential father to not let him have a child just because the pregnant woman doesnt want it, but to force a man to pay child care when he doesnt want the baby but the mother does. It takes two to make a baby, and yet the woman gets to decide whether or not the man is denied fatherhood or whether he is forced into it. January 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm anywoman So Ricky, if they disagree, who should win?

All the conservatives bleating on here about responsibility what about the responsibility of a man to face the consequences of impregnating a woman who does not want to carry to term? Guess men like you are SOL, huh? On a completely unrelated topic, I would like to have unprotected sex with you. January 7, 2011 at 2:25 pm ricky anywoman, the question of who should win is a moot point because the argument isnt even allowed. As for responsibility, I think a man should be responsible for impregnating a woman, just as I think a woman should be responsible for getting pregnant. I am not arguing that men shouldnt have to pay for child care. I was illustrating a double standard, and pointing out that it is not just something that involves a woman and her body. It involves a partner, as well. But the partners wishes arent taken into consideration. As for your last comment to me: dont be childish. January 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm anywoman Ricky, your point was that a mans wishes should factor into the decision.

My question to you was, IF a mans wishes DID factor into the decision who should win? January 7, 2011 at 2:39 pm adopted4life Has anyone ever thought of adoption?? Whether it is the biological father or mother, or another person who longs to parent a child There is never a need to end a childs life, there can be someone to care for that child. Its not about a father or mother winning the argument over the life or death sentence of a baby. Its about the childs right to LIVE. January 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm ricky My point is NOT that a mans wishes SHOULD factor into the decision. My point is that the mans wishes are not considered at all, but the womans are. Im showing that the current situation is unfair. My actual belief would be that no one should have a decision in ending a pregnancy because of their wishes. (Keep in mind Im referring to abortion as birth control, not abortion for health reasons/rape, which is a separate debate all together). But I will humor your question about who should win: every situation would be different, but in a hypothetical situation where the womans ONLY reason for terminating a pregnancy

is that she just doesnt want to be a mother, and the man wanted to be a father, then I would say the man should be allowed to have the child he helped create. January 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm Christopher I was not describing how things are just how they ought to be. And just because the SC decided 40 years ago, does not mean we as a society have decided that it is settled law. iIf it is a settled arguement then why are so many people on both sides of the debate up in arms(wait for it) because it is not settled. Why dont you and I propose to have a national referedum on the issue. Majority ruleslets see how that goes. So, you just hate men who you cant win an arguement with. Some one who intelligently and without name calling came up with arguements you couldnt top. I can live with the fact that you hate me. But just like we can both make fun of the religious zealots on here who mindlessly say you cant have an abortion because God says so, is just as old and worn out of an arguement as you cant tell what to do with my body. Dont you have anything better? I thought I already covered this.Society can decide for you what you can and cannot do with your body. Why dont you think real hard and come up with something better than the feminist pap thats been drilled into your head. Try thinking for yourself.

January 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm anywoman Ricky, thats fascinating. I completely support your offer to GIVE BIRTH. Except oh, wait. January 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm HollywoodPhoto Anywoman, Society hasnt chosen that women have the right to choose. 7 activist Justices on the Supreme Court who found a fundamental right to abort a child under a right of privacy did. If you put it to society, most states would vote to restrict the practice for all reasons other than rape, incest or life of the mother. January 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm anywoman Chris, You said, Society can decide for you what you can and cannot do with your body. And I said that YOUR society has decided that a woman can choose to abort. So . . . tell me again why youre not happy?

Oh right. Because someone, somewhere, might have a different opinion than you. Might make a different choice than you (or your girlfriend or wife). Might have a different belief system than you. Face it, you cant tolerate dissent. I, on the other hand, dont care if you disagree with me. Knock up all the chicks you want, and raise all the babies you want. But stay out of my body. January 7, 2011 at 3:12 pm anywoman Ricky, first you said, the father should have a choice in what happens during the pregnancy. Then you said, My point is NOT that a mans wishes SHOULD factor into the decision. Heh. January 7, 2011 at 3:16 pm Christopher Yes I know you think that the opinions of 5 old men from 40 years ago constitutes all of society (even though it doesn), but the Supreme Court has gotten it wrong before (just ask a few black people). and they got it wrong this time, too. In a country where we are always trying to improve our union, no law is ever settled.

I am not unhappy. I am perfectly willingly to listen to your argument, if you would just give one beyond keep your laws off my body I love intelligent dissentits just that I hear it so rarely. So its an open forum here..give it your best shot. why is having abortions a good thing? January 7, 2011 at 3:26 pm ricky anywoman: Thats why I didnt want to go down that hypothetical road with you: it leads nowhere. Thats a cute response. Haha! Men cant give birth. Cute but predictable. In the hypothetical situation I gave, I said when the womans ONLY reason for wanting to terminate the baby was because she didnt want to be a mother. She doesnt mind 9 months of pregnancy. She doesnt mind the pain of giving birth. She just doesnt want to be a mother. So while we were chasing that rabbit, you ignored the real issue all together. But if you are going to make the actual BIRTHING of the baby the issue, and since you like hypothetical situations, heres another: Suppose a man gets a woman pregnant. She wants to have the baby and be a mother. He doesnt want to be a father. The man finds a chemical to slip into her drink to painlessly terminate the pregnancy, with no side effets. Has he done anything wrong?

January 7, 2011 at 3:31 pm anywoman Ricky, you said: where the womans ONLY reason for terminating a pregnancy is that she just doesnt want to be a mother, and the man wanted to be a father, then I would say the man should be allowed to have the child he helped create. I dont think you understood my point: that the man cannot actually HAVE the child. What you propose is forced birth at the whim of the man. Uh. No. Next! January 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm anywoman Chris, you said, I am perfectly willingly to listen to your argument. Thats the difference between you and me, though, dont you see? I DONT CARE if you agree with me. I DONT WANT to convince you that it is or should be legally or morally permissible for a woman to choose not to carry a child to term. I only want a choice. Freedom, you might call it. What I dont understand is why you care so very, very much about what anonymous women might choose to do. The only

thing you can do about it is to vote Republican and hope that Republican-appointed activist judges overturn decades of precedent and declare that the 14th Amendment does not cover a womans right to choose. In which case, abortions will still be available in blue states, and there will be charitable organizations set up to help get poor women from red states to those clinics. In other words, you are wasting your time, Chris. January 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm ricky First, on the supposed contradiction you pointed out about what my point is: my original post was based on your first reply to Chris about men making a choice for women. It was worded poorly, but was a read between the lines thing. When I said that it was not my point, I meant that my real point is that no one, man or woman, should have a choice in terminating a pregnancy. The choice is made when they sleep together. As for the first hypothetical situation, Im referring to a woman who doesnt mind childbirth. Read my explanation again. She just doesnt want to motherhood forced upon her. She doesnt mind childbirth being forced upon her. But what about my second hypothetical situation I proposed? About the main terminating his partners pregnancy?

I have to hit the road for a bit. I have two sick guinea pigs that I have to take to the vet. But Ive enjoyed the conversation with you, anywoman, and hopefully I can pick back up on it when I take care of my piggies. Ricky January 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm anywoman Well, Ricky, I WOULD mind childbirth being forced upon ME. I mean, wouldnt YOU? January 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm Doug Wakeman We did not decide this as a society. It was imposed on us by a few Leftist judges. This is why the issue causes such bitterness and dissension. January 7, 2011 at 3:55 pm john west The question is simple. If you dont want to have children, why do you get pregnant. You have to be really stupid to not know what causes pregnancy and how to prevent it.

So whats the answer? January 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm anywoman Ricky, in your second hypothetical, the woman had no choice. Duh. Next. January 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm Christopher Thats the convience of having the law on your side. You dont have to convince anybody to maintain the status quo. Freedom and choice have been so warped in your mind, that you think its OK to kill a forming baby so that you can maintain your free as a bird lifestyle. I do not get a choice on any number of things regarding my body. I cannot do what ever I want with my body (because there are consequences) Why do I care about what anonymous women are doing with thier bodies to small children? Because along with pornography, the two have destroyed the fabric of what made this country decent. They have ruined women. 6 millions Jews were slaughetered and we call that a Holocausta travisty of humanity. Genocide!! In your mind 30 million babies slaughtered is freedom of choice, a right to privacy.

The fourteenth amendment does not cover a womens right to choose. It merely says the if you are born here then you are a citizen. So by that logic we can start legally shooting illegal Mexicans because they werent born here. Well abort the illegals!! Great idea!! Ill use that defence at my hearing. January 7, 2011 at 4:18 pm anywoman Chris, go read up about what the Fourteenth Amendment actually says and actually does, and how it has been interpreted. I know you are no fan of judicial interpretation of the law, but anyone who didnt go to Liberty University will tell you that it goes right back to Marbury v. Madison. And thank you for explaining your motive. I am glad to know that you want to end the travisty of abortion because it has ruined women. Were finally getting somewhere, Chris. Please explain for all of us (in a new post, so it shows up at the top of the screen) exactly how having the freedom to choose abortion has ruined women. When you are finished, explain why you believe that the government should be entitled to control womens bodies in order to stop women from being ruined. January 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm Tom Anywoman, I didnt mention hell or going anyplace upon death?

But since you brought it up, do you think youll go to hell? P.S I didnt think athiest belived in all that hocu pocus. January 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm Veronika Anywoman, Though you legally have the choice to an abortion, I hope you can find it in you to think about these innocent babies and their fate when an abortion takes place. Thats really all that some are trying to say. Yes, the baby grows in a womans body but does the baby really have to be removed when a woman feels she cant take care of it? There is adoption as a choice as well. I dont think the issue here is legal or illegal. The issue here is does our society value new life? Looking at the statistics, I dont think so. January 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm Veronika Christopher, Though I totally agree with your thoughts and frustration, I think you would do better by showing more compassion. I personally have the same beliefs but I chose to voice them in a way that doesnt point fingers. I have chosen to adopt two children that the birth mom gave life to rather than chose abortion and I am proud of her for that. I know that is only two lives but if we all focused on what to do rather than arguing our point, we may make a better difference. I dont know you, and you may already do things to help in this area, just wanted to point out that your

arguments will not change those that see things differently. In general our society doesnt see abortion as wrong since it is legal. So many may chose abortion without really thinking about it, and regret it later. Many may think about it extensively and feel thats their best option. Either way, compassion turns more hearts than arguments do. Take care, Veronika January 7, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Reply | Report comment Christopher We see smoking as wrong but it legal. I just wanted anywoman and all of her ilk to here a different arguement based totally in logic and reason rather than God says so God says so Youre going to Hell becasue you dont agree with me. Did you see her response.. despite the fact that she thinks shes the smartest person in the chat room, she went right to making fun of me rather than debate the merits of her side of the story. On a side note.thats very cool..adoping those kids. If I could afford it I would adopt a couple myself. I already have two beautiful daughters My wife got the endometriosis and her baby making days are pretty much over. January 7, 2011 at 3:10 pm Veronika

Christopher I see what you were trying to say now. Sorry didnt see all the previous messages. January 7, 2011 at 3:25 pm anywoman What you wanted me to here in your original post was an antichoice arguement about fetal development and another antichoice arguement about euthanasia. Would it shock you to learn that Ive heard these before? Or did you really think Id change my mind based on these totally brand-new arguements that have never been made before, on any Internet forum, ever? Based totally on logic and reason, I have concluded that you are the smartest person in the chat room. January 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm ricky Hi anywoman. Im back from the vet. Hope you are still around. This is what Ive been able to gather about your position from our conversation: 1. Man and Woman have sex. 2. Woman gets pregnant, creating Fetus. 3. Situation now includes Man, Woman, and Fetus. 4. Woman may choose fate of Fetus. 5. Man and Fetus have no say in the matter, even though directly impacted by Womans decision.

Now I want to some up our hypothetical situations: Your believe that, in the first situation, the man should have no say because his decision might force a woman to have a baby. So I presented you with a second situation in which the man makes a decision that does not force a woman to have a baby. You didnt like that one either, because the woman has no choice. So obviously your beliefs are not based on potential parenthood, childbirth pains, or anything else. Your beliefs are simply that, even though Man, Woman, and Fetus are all involved with the situation (that cannot be denied), that only Woman can make the decision, even though Man and Fetus are directly affected by her decision. Please explain how this is acceptable on any level, other than its my body, my choice, etc., etc. because it cannot be argued that Man and Fetus are not affected by Womans choice, either to have the baby or not. One other thing about the child birth: You said that a man should not force a woman to have a baby. A womans (and a mans) choice happens when they sleep together. If a woman gets pregnant as a result, she is pregnant by her own actions. If laws were passed that allowed a man to have input into the fate of the pregnancy, it is ridiculous to say that he is forcing the woman to have a baby. Anyone grown up enough to have sex is grown up enough to know the potential outcome. A baby is not forced upon the

woman, whether she carries it to term or not; it is a result of her own actions with another person. Actions that she could have stopped. You cant have your cake and eat it too. January 7, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Reply | Report comment Harpotoo Good! The more Liberal Commie LEACHES kill DEMselves the better off the rest of US are! January 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Reply | Report comment Tim I always enjoy reading about good, wholesome Christian love. January 7, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Reply | Report comment ricky What makes you think Harpotoo is a Christian? January 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm cajun pete wow. seriously? almost 50% of nyc new baby population dead and you are happy?

these numbers should shock any american. even a bigot, even the pro choice, even democrats. January 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Bigley Anywoman It is not YOUR BODY which people seek to control. It is your desire to kill SOMEONE ELSES BODY which people seek to control. Nowhere in nature can it be found where a female kills her own young. Only in the progressive mind does the thought take shape for a mother to murder her unborn child. January 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Reply | Report comment ricky Tom, Im sure you and I take the same stance on abortion. But mothers killing children does occur in nature. Hamsters will eat their young, but oddly enough its for protection: if the mother hamster doesnt believe there will be food for the young, or if there are other threats to them, she will eat the young to prevent them from suffering. Also, I believe cats and dogs will eat their young if they are born sick or with birth defects. Im sure there are other examples. Your point is well taken, though. Abortion on demand is wrong.

January 7, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Bigley Ricky Point taken. I guess that puts Anywoman on par with a hampster. January 7, 2011 at 4:29 pm anywoman Whats a hampster, Tom? January 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm MaryofAz God Bless you Tom. January 7, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Reply | Report comment ben im mixed on the abortion issue. i dont like abortion, but you have to real about it as well. you have to realize that we are crippling this country with over-population. give these religious leaders 6 months living as a single parent on minimum wage, then and only then will i be interested in hearing what they have to say about abortion. January 7, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Reply | Report comment

ricky I see your point you are making. But if abortion is wrong, but allowable because of single parents making minimum wage couldnt raise a child, then could you make the same argument that if a single mother kills her 2 year old for the same reasons others have an abortion, that it would be wrong, but allowable? You might say, but the 2 year old is living. Were not so sure about whether a fetus is living or not. And thats the million dollar question. Neither science nor philosophy can conclusively say when life begins. So even the most pro-abortion person out there has to concede that a fetus might be living. We should take the safe route: if there is a chance a fetus is a living being, we should not kill it. January 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete I understand that an indivuduals body is their personal property. I agree that anything any individual wants to do to their body (i.e. food, drugs, pills, whiskey, sex) is their individual choice and right as a human being. I consider myself a personal property champion, and this includes if a woman wants to make the ultimate decision to end their babies life. that being said, this number is astounding. This is unacceptable to genocide almost half of the population of one of the largest cities in the world.

If you are a woman out there who might come to the crossroads between life or not, there are people out there who are more than willing to help you make the right choice. Lastly there are so many people out there who would pay thousands of dollars for your child. Abortion is a the right of the individual, however please remember that it is a human being. January 7, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Reply | Report comment RJD1959 I find it interesting that those who believe that an individual has the right to do with their body what they please and those who are against abortion both agree this is unacceptable. That is extraordinary. Frankly, I personally am against abortion. I have seen the other side change dramatically over the last 30 years and see this as an indication of where the truth lies. January 7, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete Thank you RJD1959. I am also against abortion, and a devout catholic. However I understand I have no right to impose my beliefs on another individual. As a man I only have that ability if the child concieved is from my seed, and if that is the case there would be no choice only life. January 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm mr poon

You, my friend, are no devout Catholic. Sorry that may be what you think, but it aint reality. Should mothers be able to kill their 3-ymonth-olds? Slaves were considered property too. So by your logic an 1800s slave was not human until they were freed? January 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete Mr. Poon, I am a debout catholic, however i do not believe everything the church tells be is true, like aborted babies are doomed to limbo for eternity. You obviously do not understand what I have been posting, so i will explain it again for you. Abortion is murder, in any form other than rape or if the mother is indangered in giviing birth. However, someones body is thier property, with this logic slavery would have never been condoned or legalized. I have no right to impose my personal beliefs upon any other human being. I have no right, nor do you, nor does the government, to tell someone else what they can or can not do with their bodies. That decision must be made by the individual. If that individual makes a decision that i do not agree with, it is not my job or duty to critique their decisions. They must answer for the decisions they have made to a higher power than me. Moreover my post was trying to let woman out there understand there are other alternatives to abortion.

Lastly, you do not know anything about me, so please do not assume you do. January 7, 2011 at 2:51 pm mr poon Againyou are devout in your mindnot the Churchs. Thats some major pride. If you stand on the sidelines on such a fundamental moral and human issue as the murder of the least among us, what exactly makes you devout? You completely missed the point. YOU are dehumanizing preborn babies by calling them property! They are not PROPERTY just as the slaves were not property. You saying so does not make it so much like your assertion of being a devout Catholic. Sorry to break the news. January 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm cajun pete Mr. Poon, wow you are an elitest POS. Again challenging my faith? You are the reason their are pro choice in this world because of your hate and blame. Again you are taking what I post and turning it into somthing it is not. Being devout with my local parish and God is different from being devout to the Pope. Second all individuals are champions of their own bodies, this includes the unborn. I understand that an unborn baby does not have the ability to fight there own fight, however you do not have the right to tell

someone else to do with their body. The real key here is education and support from outside. not to belittle the mother for her decisions. Lastly, i never stated that an unborn baby is property of any one or anything. That is another assumption you made (looks like you do that a lot). You continue to assume instead of giving out rational advice and a solution to this deeply troubling problem. I am devout in mind spirit body and soul to God, not the pope. I am not trying to downgrade the popacy, however my beliefs do not always coincide with theirs. obviously you do not care about the solutions just to judge and ridicule. if the mother chooses this path, that is between her and God until the law of the land changes, and if you want to do nothing to spew hate, you are part of the problem. January 7, 2011 at 6:00 pm cajun pete ps Mr. Poon, When was the last time you went to confession? It sounds like you could use one. January 7, 2011 at 6:03 pm Darren

To end an innocent life so that you can live as you please is a poverty -unknown Part of being an adult member of a society, and a human being is recognizing ones responsibility to ones fellow man and how ones actions effect those around you. To take the extreme measure of killing the most innocent being possible, the only people that have not harmed anyone in any way ever (which is more than we can say for any of us) is SICK. How would any species survive if this was a right thing to do out of choice? Liberals are always concerned about how they can help others until it is their turn to step up and me be measured as worthy member of the human race. What happened to think about the children. Im not sure if there is a HELL but if their is youve all got the best seats in the house! January 7, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Reply | Report comment lukuj This statistic made me want to cry. It is almost serial murder or ethnic cleansing, but because it is unborn humans, abortion is not only accepted by promoted by liberals. What a terrifying commentary on our culture! January 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Reply | Report comment MaryofAz @anywoman.so for your right to manage your own body, regardless of what your behavior produces, including a human

being, you defend the slaughter of these millions of innocents? You will never be able to wash their blood off your hands. January 7, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Come over here and lick it off, Mary. January 7, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Reply | Report comment Craig anywomanJesus loves you January 7, 2011 at 2:11 pm liberalismisamentalidisorder The only good news is the Roe Effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_effect Less future liberal voters January 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply | Report comment OBAMANATION @ NOTRE DAME 88 JAILED FOR REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE IN ADORATION OF THE ONE @ NOTRE DAME FreeTheND88.org January 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete

even though this is off topic, is this for real? I just read the article @ the thomas more society. are they really going to take these protesters to trial? and what are the charges? January 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Reply | Report comment August Why are some cold-blooded killers better than other coldblooded killers? January 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Reply | Report comment cajun pete Exactly. I dont understand how liberals are against the death penalty for convicted murderers. Yet they are for killing an innocent unborn childred? Its not that liberals are bad people, they are just extremley misguided Dwight Eisenhower January 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Reply | Report comment Justin Its simple really, you cant kill something that isnt alive. Not only do I support abortion, I support mandatory ones for anyone that watches or listens to Glenn Beck or watches FoxNews for anything other than a laugh.

January 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm Justinsabigot @ Justin. I deam you not alive and subsequently useless. Goodbye, and enjoy the kool aid flavored bullets. January 7, 2011 at 2:05 pm cajun pete @ Justin That statment proves your are misguided. One question. When do you consider someone alive? is it upon conception. is it in the first, second, or third trimester. Or do you believe someone is not alive until they are delivered and exit their host (mother)? January 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm Mark Carlton My daughter once had a female rabbit who killed and partially devoured her own offspring. I thought that was beyond weird and into the revolting zone. After reading this article, I wonder why God wouldnt feel the same way about a society where humans do pretty much the same thing to four out of ten of their own children. January 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Reply | Report comment Aunt Bee

This is an Eugenics program. Anyone that still thinks government is your friend, cares about you and your children and would never do anything to the contrary, is on glue. http://911essentials.com January 7, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Reply | Report comment Jesus Sadly, many of these millions of murdered children held among other things, cures to cancer and other illness. Good luck on your eternity. January 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Reply | Report comment mike More condescension from True Believers: Im right, youre going to hell, neener neener. Whos arrogant? January 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Reply | Report comment Ned Schnittt You are, for intentionally mistaking Truth for condescension. If you choose Hell, mike, God will honor that decision. January 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm mike

There are billions of people who believe in other religions, who think the same as you ABOUT you. Which is more sane: that everybody but you is right about your particular invisible ghost in the sky or that you are all wrong? Hell is a childs version of punishment. Do as I say, or Im going to hit you! January 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm Kathy Reading something like this makes me so sad considering I have been unable to get pregnant and would love just one of those babies..life doesnt makes sense sometimes. And what about using birth control?? January 7, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Reply | Report comment Lisa Birth control is part of the problem. It is not 100% effective, especially condoms, which are being handed out in schools. Teens have more sex thinking condoms are invincible and end up pregnant. I know people who have gotten pregnant on the pill. Birth control is not the answer. What about using a little SELF CONTROL? January 7, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Reply | Report comment Heath Belden

Proper sex education would include information on the effectiveness of contraceptives, which are highly effective. about dot com has a good rundown, if youd care to google it. Unfortunately, it leaves the impression that abstinence is the best answer without examining any of the stresses on teens today pushing them away from abstinence. January 7, 2011 at 1:59 pm twoiron Lisa, I am with Heath. Self-control is the problem, not birth control. The leftwing-driven sexual revolution in the 1960swas directed at dehumanizing us, not making us free to have sex whenever we want with whomever we want. It gave us abortion on demand, AIDS, rampant STDs, and a coarse culture that thinks nothing of creating (then murdering, in utero) human lives. January 7, 2011 at 2:24 pm Tim You could always adopt, Kathy. As for your comment regarding birth control, the article explains that religious leaders criticize public health sex education programs involving the distribution of birth control (condoms). Sort of sends a confusing message, IMO. January 7, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Reply | Report comment Jessica

@ Tim well adoption is always the answer because well .. it aint cheap! Try $15000 to 25 k at minimum in the US perhaps adoption would be easier if less of these babies where aborted and instead allowed to find a family that will love them and provide for them. January 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm Eggs Ackley Kathy, go to your local county social services. They have adoption programs in place that are at virtually no cost to you. It will take some time, and they will make you jump through a number of hoops, but if you are determined you will succeed. In my case it took almost a decade, but after all the psychological testing and so forth that they put you through, I ended up with a newborn son where I dont think I could have created a better child if I had to pick what traits and attributes I wanted from a checklist. Granted, there are probably quicker and easier ways to adopt, but I didnt have a bottomless wallet to grease all the lawyers palms for me. January 7, 2011 at 2:30 pm Kalgr Just one of the saddest articles Ive ever read. This is a travesty and a major, major morale problem. January 7, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Reply | Report comment

rocco Simply horrifying January 7, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Reply | Report comment whatever2 Democrats hate black people so much that they kill almost 50% of them. January 7, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Reply | Report comment Gary Interesting, isnt it, that the author of this article, as well as the editor, did not want to claim it as their article by name. Guess God still does influence the conscience of our souls. January 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Reply | Report comment Mary travers Isnt it ironic that blacks themselves-following the liberal democratic pied pipersare committing genocide on their own unborn children? Wonder who they will blame for this one. Suggestionlook in a mirror. January 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Reply | Report comment truth hurtshuh Just be glad they do. January 7, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Reply | Report comment

Robert Forget the emotion and the religious arguments, they cant be won. I have two doctorates and one of them is in biology. Anyone who understands the basics of embryology knows that from conception the zygote then later the fetus is changing and cell differentiating to create a notocord, distinct organs, etc. This is all done independent of the host (mother) with the exception of what she supplies via the placenta and umbilical cord. There is an intelligence/life force/soul whatever you want in that fetus it is a person ! You can tell yourself anything you want about fetal viability outside the womb etc to make yourself feel less guilty, but you are kidding yourself. It is murder, period. You can call it justifiable if it makes you sleep better, but your argument is unsupportable. January 7, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply | Report comment Christian Thank you Robert for your comments. Those that have no problem will not listen to the moral argument, but i suspect, if anything gets through to them, the scientific one will. Keep spreading the truth. January 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Reply | Report comment Royal Highness

Excellent comment, Robert! January 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Reply | Report comment Alethia Great post! Thank you! January 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Reply | Report comment defendUSA Thank you, Robert. You hit the nail on the head. Its too bad those same people who support abortions would support PETA, The SPCAover human lives. I can bet you dollar for dollar have never donated to an adoption agency or to help some single mother support that which she gave life to. I find that idiotic at best, but then those folks, and I do paint broadly are all about self-gratification and not about sacrificing for others. January 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Reply | Report comment Joan Abortion is murder and against Gods Laws. God will not tolerate these deaths for much longer. Just as he chastised the early Israelis for going against him, he will soon chastise not only the USA but the world for the sins against him. Prepare for the punishment it may already have begun January 7, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Reply | Report comment

Ronald Reagan Ive noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born January 7, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Reply | Report comment dwayne LOL!!!, that is priceless. Can I use that one in the future? January 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Reply | Report comment Robert Blacks and Hispanics were responsible for 70,000 of the 87,000 abortions which is roughly 80%. I wonder how that correlates their total percentage of the population? January 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Reply | Report comment ANIMALAURA Well maybe that will help keep them from over reproducing like RATS!!! AND THAT is a good thing! NOW if forced sterilization of all welfare mothers and fathers, if that person has been on welfare for more than 2 years, were to become a realitythen just think of the taxpayers savings! Two things will lead to the destruction of this America: Overpopulation Political Correctness

January 7, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Reply | Report comment dwayne number 3) immorality January 7, 2011 at 1:13 pm Vorant Modern day holocaust is what this is January 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Reply | Report comment waltinseattle One of the many currently underway. But yes. January 7, 2011 at 6:14 pm | Reply | Report comment Chris Ar Given that NYC has one of the most liberal and comprehensive sex education programs in the country, I am surprised the author of this article did not make the obvious conclusion: they dont work. Wait, I totally expected that from an MSM outlet. January 7, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Reply | Report comment dwayne Actually, those programs are working; they produce the exact results stated in this article.

You see, I dont believe the Liberals have good intension. I believe they are controlled be a certain spirit, and it is not Jesus Christ! January 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Oh noes! Dwayne is onto the secret! Someone inform the Dark Lord! [eyeroll] January 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm allwomen @anywoman. You are obviously angry, im sorry you didnt realize you were a murdered until it was too late but God will forgive you if you ask. Do not put yourself through this anymore, repent, and beg forgiveness. There is still time January 7, 2011 at 2:10 pm Joe Anywomen Are you being selective? its okay to cry. I too understand why you were not aborted. Its never wrong to be right and this may be the place for you to go ahead and admit that you were wrong, and that its okay to love life enough to allow the innocent to live such as you were loved and given life. I Will Pray For You, your Mother, and your Father!

January 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman I didnt understand this comment downthread, and I still dont. Spare me the sanctimonious altar call, guy. Maybe this is the place for YOU to admit that you cant control my body. January 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Reply | Report comment Jake We dont want to control your body. We want you to take responsibility for your actions. Life isnt a video game with save points. Choices have consequences. Woman up and stop discriminating against the unborn. Your kind are the worst kind of discriminators. Choosing who gets a chance to live here on this earth or not. Please note that I am not talking about rape or when the life of the woman is at stake. January 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm anywoman Oh, I know life isnt like a video game, Jake. If it were, a monkey would have thrown a barrel on you by now. January 7, 2011 at 1:12 pm MaryofAz

@anywoman.so for your right to manage your own body, regardless of what your behavior produces, including a human being, you defend the slaughter of these millions of innocents? January 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm Darren To end an innocent life so that you can live as you please is a poverty -unknown Part of being an adult member of a society, and a human being is recognizing ones responsibility to ones fellow man and how ones actions effect those around you. To take the extreme measure of killing the most innocent being possible, the only people that have not harmed anyone in any way ever (which is more than we can say for any of us) is SICK. How would any species survive if this was a right thing to do out of choice? Liberals are always concerned about how they can help others until it is their turn to step up and me be measured as worthy member of the human race. What happened to think about the children. Im not sure if there is a HELL but if their is youve all got the best seats in the house! January 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm anywoman Why dont you pray for my soul in your church, lady? January 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm Christ-opher

How come we as a nation can pass laws governing what you do with your body when it comes to murdering another person.or getting drunk and driving a car. I mean you are doing those things with your body, arent you? And we have no problem passing a law that says a man cant (using his body) rape a woman. Right? You would agree that those are all valid laws, yes? So there is obviously precedent where we can tell you what to do with your bodyas it pertains to hurting others. So then the arguement is not about old white men passing laws that govern your body and what you do with it. This is strictly about whether or not what is inside the woman is another person or not. Another U.S. citizen with all the same rights to life liberty and the pursuitas you do. Ill ask you the same question..When is a person offically dead.when their heart stops beating? when the brain ceases activity? So if we can legally declare someone dead when those two things stop happening, then cant we legally declare them alive when they start. And if I am not mistaken, those things tend to occur very early in the first trimester. See? I defeated all your BS arguments and didnt have to invoke God once. Lets get to the heart of the issue. You hate men. You hate that they can leave after they find out about the unwanted baby. And in a desperate move to keep the loser around most women rush to the free clinic. January 7, 2011 at 1:31 pm WWJD

Keep on keepin on anywoman. The religious nuts cant be reasoned with. Personally I saw kill them all! And all their babies. If you religious folk think it is sooo wrong. then let your god tell these people, not you. I guess you take it upon yourselves, just in case he isnt real. God Bless ^^ January 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm Javier Ruiz-Leon There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes,a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood Proverbs 6:16 Hands that shed innocent blood Hands that shed innocent blood Hands that shed innocent blood January 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Yay! Lets enact the Bible into law! No shrimp for you, Javier! January 7, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Reply | Report comment hmmmm health laws are not sins unto death or bringing about Fathers hate. its a guide to eating right so you dont get cancers and sick

and such. but yeah eat things that still have feces in them and eat nothing but dead and sick stuff is prolly not a good idea. just like hogs, who do not sweat so every poison they ingest jsut sits in the fat/meat. and we wonder why cancers are rising and all the diseases and things like obesity. we eat junk. we breathe junk air, we drink chemical laved water as well. January 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm boomer Hey, LEAVE BACON OUT OF THIS!!!!! January 8, 2011 at 1:27 pm ocj So dont get pregnant in the city. January 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Reply | Report comment Jesus Forgive them Father,,, for they know not what they do. January 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Reply | Report comment mike Forgive him, for he thinks that he has the one true hotline to our one true moral code. No, atheism is not arrogant, but religion sure as hell is! January 7, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Reply | Report comment

dumbars atheism is as arrogant as they come, none of you so called nonbelievers ever shut up about its. and your arrogance of how you are always right because you know religion is fake. well there you go. stop talking. as for NYC gross just gross. but i am glad to have less brainwashed zombie democrats running around sucking up my tax dollars. January 7, 2011 at 12:29 pm mike Yes. There is no irony in believing that 99.99999% of world religions are wrong but YOURS is the one true way. No irony. No arrogance. None whatsoever. January 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm papalou Lets see we have Stalin, Lennin, Pol Pot , Mao, just a few arrogant athiest, or yeah Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. If there is a hell hope you enjoy the heat. January 7, 2011 at 12:36 pm mike Like I said arrogant. And vindictive. January 7, 2011 at 12:42 pm

dwayne Proverbs 12:15 15 The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice. January 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm mike All Ive said here is that it is arrogant to claim that YOUR way is right and all others are wrong, damned, going to hell. Thats pretty much a textbook definition. So if you want to call me a fool. So be it. Just remember theres a whole world worth of other religious folk out there that think the same as you but ABOUT you. Cheers. Have fun living in your eternal cosmic war. Im going to go live my life, free of demons and angels. I suggest you do too. January 7, 2011 at 1:51 pm Lesser Known- Jared Christ. Right on Mike. Atheist dont go to schools and funerals and cities and protest or preach the word of a 2 thousand year old game of telephone. We only bring up our opinion when morons overflow and judge and condemn everyone else. Isnt that their gods job? If they are so confident in his existence, then let him Judge these girls, and stfu.

January 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm Tom Rvastar, You mean .. it sums up psuedo-intellectuuals like Tim perfectly. Progressives and femminists I find it remarkable that athiesm runs rampant with this ideaology. And youll never hear words personal responsibilty in a conversation with a lib, progressive or a femminist. January 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Whats a femminist? Whats an ideaology? Whats athiesm? If your god is so great, how come he didnt give you the spelling skills of a sixth-grader, Tom? January 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Anywomen, I spelled the words wrong because I cant hardly see what IIm typing. Theres something wrong with my connetion to the comments section.

Regardless, you get the point of my comment. Why worry about the spelling. It makes you like trivial and immature. Also, change your screen name. IYou dont speak for nost women!! January 7, 2011 at 1:04 pm Tom My God is great. He has nothing to do with my spelling. He gives me hope that an athiest femmnist will one day see the light. You are in a minority. Your also a psuedo-intellectual. January 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm anywoman He has nothing to do with my spelling. Finally, we agree on something. January 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm Tom Then why did you assume my God had anything to do with my spelling skills? You made the dumb comment. January 7, 2011 at 1:24 pm Tom

Youre a pseudo-intellectual, not your. I wonder if my God hadanything to do with me correcting me? January 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm Tim LMAO! Psuedo-intellectuuals, femminists, athiesm, ideaology??? Hahahaha!! What a dumba$$!! Not so hot in the spelling department are you, Tom? You might want to work on that before you go around accusing people of pseudointellectualism. January 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Your funny, also shallow and immature. LOL I explained this earlier, dummy. i cant hardley make out the type, its extremely faint. You and Anywoman make a good pair, both femmnists.. January 7, 2011 at 2:15 pm Tim What you cant make out is how to put letters together to form words, and words to form sentences, and sentences to craft an intelligent argument, which youve lacked the entire time youve been on this blog.

Keep working on that, buddy! January 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm Your mom Tim and anywoman are my personal saviors. January 7, 2011 at 2:47 pm anywoman Blessed art thou, YM! January 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm Tom Tim, Youve established you can read. Whats next? Do you think youve made any rational argunment(s) here today? Soem would say no.! January 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm Tom Also, Tim, dont confuse a typo with a mispelled word. I dont claim or care about typos. This is not a grammer or spelling test.. I dont type well when Im in a hurry. P.S. Your still a fool. January 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

MaryofAz Tim and anywoman.. so nice to see you attack him on his spelling. Very progressive, right on the mark. You cant deal with the message, so you attack the messenger. Progressive Liberal Atheist . your minds are poisoned with nonsense and hedonism, caring only for yourselves, screaming and name calling when you dont get your way. January 7, 2011 at 11:45 pm Manny Espinola No nation in history ever succeeded in curbing runaway population growth by natural means. Even China failed with the use of the pill. Only abortion works. The future belongs to cultures that recognize the primacy of Malthusian Law as it applies to all living organisms. January 7, 2011 at 11:57 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron Psst, Manny! Never mind the future. Eternity in hell belongs to those who deny Gods holiness and sovereignty and ignore their own sinfulness. Malthus has nothing to do with it. January 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Your delight at this prospect is palpable, twoiron. However, if its all the same to you, Ill proceed to live my life without your

superstitions about the hereafter to scare me into obeying your interpretation of your gods will. Hmm. What constitutional rights can I scare YOU into not wanting to exercise by threatening you with MY version of hell? January 7, 2011 at 12:43 pm twoiron @anywoman, if you are 25, you have a future that will last 60 years, actuarially. Eternity lasts way longer. Makes the future seem rather unimportant, doesnt it? January 7, 2011 at 2:32 pm anywoman Why would I want to spend eternity with people like you? January 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm Chris Ar Population growth? It this 1979? January 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply | Report comment Peter913 Maybe if they had to pay for part of the procedures cost they would take greater care? January 7, 2011 at 11:52 am | Reply | Report comment

anywoman Conservatives have invented a god who hates all the same things they do. January 7, 2011 at 11:50 am | Reply | Report comment Rico Then our modern day Conservatives must have existed when all the scriptures were written. Murder is murder, no matter how you try to slice it. January 7, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Reply | Report comment Chris Ar Im a conservative agnostic. Most conservatives know the difference between politics and religion. Its the far left that pursues the former as if it were the latter. January 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Reply | Report comment jay ar Wow anywoman, I dont hate women period, what I hate is people who think the choice begins when pregnant, the choice begins when 2 people decide to have sex.Its called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, if you decide to have unsafe sex then you have decided to take responsibility for the result. Taking responsibility doesnt mean killing the innocent so you dont have to face the consequences of your actions January 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Reply | Report comment

anywoman Newsflash: Women who insist on condoms can also get pregnant. I guess that fact doesnt square with your determination to shame sexually active women as irresponsible, though. And how is it taking responsibility if the government FORCES you to carry to term against your will? You dont want women to take personal responsibility. You want the government to decide that women should be forced to carry to term. January 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm adopted4life God hates ALL things evil. Yet, he is so loving that He has made a way for every evil persons redemption by His own blood shed (and all humans fall into the evil category, because all us us fall short of Holy God). Those that have received redemption and justification by Gods grace want to reach out and share this amazing news with with people still stuck in the depravity of this world and all the consequences that come with that. Telling people about Christ is not arrogant, its the most loving act anyone can do for another. If someone had the cure for cancer, but held onto it because they feared people would think they were arrogant to say this was the only way to cure that disease that would be ridiculous! However, the God who created us, also gave us a cure for our wicked/depraved hearts the only cure is Christ.

January 7, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman And here I thought Coke was the real thing! January 7, 2011 at 2:34 pm clarese I suggest a nice trip to Egypt for you so you can share that Christian Love January 9, 2011 at 1:55 pm Lesser Known- Jared Christ. And have effectively shoved him down the throats of everyone else. January 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Reply | Report comment TanjaEubanks CHOICE? The people who make that argument make me positively ill! In fact, livid!!! The choice was made when they had sex! And now they murder their own child and that is progress for women? This is genocide pure and simple with a eugenics program driving the whole thing. Get on your knees, America, and beg God for forgiveness! Take responsibility! REPENT! January 7, 2011 at 11:48 am | Reply | Report comment

Jay Amen! January 7, 2011 at 11:50 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Like I care what your invisible sky friend thinks about me. Anti-choicers hate women who have sex. It really is that simple, folks. January 7, 2011 at 11:52 am | Reply | Report comment Tom Pro-abortionist hate personal responsibility. Are you implying that pro-abortionist cant have responsible sex? Thats what it sounds like. January 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm Mitsy Then who do they have sex with? January 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm Rico Not at all. Thats a straw man argument so you can feel like youre winning the debate. No one has said they dont like women having sex, were talking about personal responsibility.

That includes knowing who to have sex with, when, and howsuch as using contraceptives (correctly). January 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm Louie So then Pro-Choice hate Children, makes sense January 7, 2011 at 12:39 pm MaryofAz Your comment is laughably absurd. You make your point with name calling and insults and pseudo intellectual babble ignoring the truth that your belief allows innocents to be slaughtered. Their blood is on your hands. I hope you enjoy being in control of your body. January 7, 2011 at 1:31 pm Tom Anywoman, Youre a drive by commenter. Youre also selective and tend to try and pick at or on people rather than respond directly to their comments. Others throughout this thread have mentioned the same thing. January 7, 2011 at 1:40 pm dwayne

Look folks, people like anywoman exist and are on the move to powerful positions in our culture. There are millions of anywomans out here. They are our Democrat politicians, are Doctors, Daycare operators, TV & Movie Producers, etc. So, stop insulting her, by doing so you are just feeding the fire. Anywoman is just expressing what the Left truly thinks, you should be happy to learn some insight on how they really think. Listen and learn how she thinks, we are going to have to learn how to deal with these people, whether we like it or not. In the end, all we can really do is pray for them! And I dont see where the Bible tells us to argue with them. I could be wrong, if so tell me the Book and versus? January 7, 2011 at 1:52 pm Tim Thats so true! January 7, 2011 at 1:59 pm Chris Ar Choice is fine, the problem is the flippant way many chose to terminate a pregnancy. Its just a procedure, its just a clump of cells. I am technically pro-choice, because I cant DICTATE to a woman what she does with her body. I can only tell her that as a consequence of her choice, a life will be terminated. January 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Reply | Report comment DigitalBob

Per normal, blacks as a group are too lacking in responsibility to make a trip to the free clinic to keep from getting pregnant and too lacking in inteligence, spirituality, and responsibility to consider it might actually be a life they are terminating. January 7, 2011 at 11:47 am | Reply | Report comment Aunt Bee This is an Eugenics program. Anyone that still thinks government is your friend, cares about you and your children and would never do anything to the contrary, is on glue. http://911essentials.com January 7, 2011 at 11:45 am | Reply | Report comment ertdfg Good news liberals; youve finally made abortions, safe, legal, and the most common medical practice in the nation Wait, that wasnt the third clause I recall hearing two decades ago when this fight started didnt you say rare? I guess we have a different definition of rare. When youre nearing the point at which more kids are aborted than born we cant really call abortion rare can we? January 7, 2011 at 11:44 am | Reply | Report comment DJ How about a condom?

January 7, 2011 at 11:52 am | Reply | Report comment That's exactly what I was thinking How about the implant, the implant lasts for up to three years. Costs about $400-800. or The Mirena IUD, It lasts 7 years, cost $250-$950 or the ParaGard IUD Costs about $175-650 and lasts up to 12 years. An Abortion costs $430 and higher, lasts until you get pregnant again. So anyway save up and it will be worth it. January 9, 2011 at 5:36 pm Sailordude White liberals started Planned Parenthood to take care of undesirable segments of the population (blacks) through abortion. And blacks vote 99% liberal Democrat, funny how that whole thing works out. January 7, 2011 at 11:42 am | Reply | Report comment Sailordude White liberals started Planned Parenthood to take care of undesirable segments of the population (blacks) through abortion. I meant that the White liberals thought blacks were undesirable, not me personally. January 7, 2011 at 11:44 am | Reply | Report comment DiitalBob

Amazing. Black leaders are up in arms if anyone uses the N word but its okay to have 40,000 + black pregnancies terminated. The reason is simple: fetuses dont vote. January 7, 2011 at 11:41 am | Reply | Report comment Delilah I say everyone should stay out of the business of a pregnant woman. Help till the baby is born is fine,Mr. Dolan but then what? I feel the choice is up to the person after all its their body so its their choice not everyone has to agree with a persons choice, but they should still be free to make it. And yes Mic they would be adults and that would have been more $$$$ for the republic to steal and things would be the same only there would be more people out of work. separation of church and state. My body My choice. Butt Out, there is supposed to be one person to judge anothers behavior in this life and none of us comes close to being that being. January 7, 2011 at 11:38 am | Reply | Report comment Jay Delilah next time please make the choice of NOT HAVING SEX/PROTECTING YOURSELF Dont see why people CHOOSE to be murderers when the whole thing can be avoided. January 7, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply | Report comment JV

Lets just say abortion is wrong. What would you do with all of those extra people. Think about it January 7, 2011 at 11:37 am | Reply | Report comment USZ 46,000,000 Abortions annually worldwide a conservative number since there tens of millions more that result from the pill preventing implantation of a fertilized egg. So thats over 126,000 dead babies per day that are surgically killed. And the AP is creating all the HYPE over some dead birds here, some dead fish there? Go figure. January 7, 2011 at 11:35 am | Reply | Report comment tnmccoy No one should be surprised at this percentage. Hedonism run wild. Should we now call NYC the city of death? This is the type of report that should always be expected in a hedonistic nanny state. Does anyone in NYC care for the innocent unborn killed in the city on a regular basis? Such a great human loss to go along with the lost souls of the savage people involved in these murders. January 7, 2011 at 11:35 am | Reply | Report comment Huh?

Forty-six percent of all births in the Bronx result in abortions the highest among the five boroughs, according to the report. Perhaps a followup article about this relationship between births and abortions is in order. Are they grouping caesarians with abortions? January 7, 2011 at 11:33 am | Reply | Report comment Jay I dont see what is not to understand. January 7, 2011 at 11:43 am | Reply | Report comment Robin Jay, whats hard to understand is the language used by the author of the article. Forty-six percent of all birthsresulted in abortions A birth cant result in an abortion. Perhaps the author should have written Forty-six percent of all pregnancies resulted in abortion Which would have been more accurate. The author of the article would have done well to define spontaneous termination also, which often indicates miscarriage. January 7, 2011 at 12:28 pm Monastro The Nazi eugenicists (Margaret Sanger, et al.) have gotten exactly what they wanted for. The people they considered inferior are limiting their own population through abortion.

January 7, 2011 at 11:29 am | Reply | Report comment commie_hater Now do you believe it. 911 not only was allowed to happen by big-government crooks (grounding of fighters); it also was judgment day. January 7, 2011 at 11:25 am | Reply | Report comment ed NOT ENOUGHMORE MORE MORE MORE ABORTIONS PLEASE!!!! January 7, 2011 at 11:24 am | Reply | Report comment Larry As for your obvious hatred of religious people, Ill simply remind you of the FACT that the most murderous group of people in human history BY FAR were not Christians, Jews, or Muslimsthey were your ATHEIST bretheren in the Soviet Union and China. Thank you rvastar. I would like to also point out the the American liberals have been joining their Atheist brothers and have killed over 50 million. January 7, 2011 at 11:22 am | Reply | Report comment Rico

Lets not forget the Nazis either. Most people think they were Christian, but Hitler himself expressed it as a threat and wanted to be rid of it. He merely used it as a means to gain more power. When you look at his real beliefs, they were quite Darwinian and eugenicatheistic. January 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Reply | Report comment Roger I think there is an error in the article. It reads Forty-six percent of all births in the Bronx result in abortions. That should be Forty-six percent of all pregnancies". January 7, 2011 at 11:21 am | Reply | Report comment thedude 200 years from now, theyll be talking about how we had state sanction murder of unborn poor babies much the same way we look back at slavery with disdain. The liberal dogma is to manage every facet of human existence from the choice of procreation to earning capacity to housing and schooling choices. I predict than in 100 years or so this country will split into three different countries. Abortion will tear this country apart as did slavery. January 7, 2011 at 11:21 am | Reply | Report comment mike

Yeah. When the magic of science allows us to be fertile or infertile at will. January 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Reply | Report comment astralweeks I think that if were talking a womans right to abortion, we ought to allow them room to change their mind. I propose postbirth abortions up to thirty days after the tissue is born. I think NY would be the perfect state to start it! January 7, 2011 at 11:16 am | Reply | Report comment Jay you are just pitiful January 7, 2011 at 11:46 am | Reply | Report comment David The rate is actually higher in the poor, white, conservative South. Once again, conservatives not doing their math January 7, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply | Report comment Dan The top twelve states/DC in the US. Doesnt look like a whos who of poor, white, conservative south. Deal in facts please before claiming something.

# 1 District of Columbia: 37 # 2 New York: 30 # 3 Delaware: 28 # 4 Florida: 26 = 5 Nevada: 23 = 5 Rhode Island: 23 # 7 Kansas: 21 = 8 Oregon: 20 = 8 Washington: 20 = 10 Connecticut: 19 = 10 New Jersey: 19 # 12 Massachusetts: 18 January 7, 2011 at 11:17 am | Reply | Report comment Sarah That is the dumbest comment I have ever heard and completely inaccurate! Look things up before you spew your ignorance! January 7, 2011 at 11:36 am | Reply | Report comment MFIREBRAND1 check out blackgenocide.com. and find out planned parenthood is no friend to the poor and of course run by liberals. Margret Sanger wrote a book called The Negro Project and was into eugenics. January 7, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply | Report comment thedude

Its ok to kill future babies in NYC. January 7, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply | Report comment Whats_Up OK, so a young girl or woman wants to kill her unborn FINE. But WHY on my dime ??? I wholeheartedly disapprove of abortion. So why do I or any taxpayer who does not approve of these killings have to pay for them??? Just sayin. January 7, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron Whats up, your dime is more important than a human life? Sick. January 7, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply | Report comment Are You Dumb? Where does it say that these were paid for by the state? January 7, 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply | Report comment MFIREBRAND1 Youre just saying exactly right. January 7, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman

Well, I wholeheartedly disapprove of the war in Afghanistan. I cant opt out of paying for it, and you cant opt out of paying for whatever percentage of these abortions may be covered by public funds. See, we live in a democracy. Look it up! January 7, 2011 at 11:10 am | Reply | Report comment abortionkills We live in a republic not a democracy.. Look it up! January 7, 2011 at 11:21 am Jay I dont agree with Abortion (Murder) that would be one way to bring down the number of abortions. Have the women pay a hefty fee. You will see how women will start thinking of twice about having sex or unprotected sex. January 7, 2011 at 11:53 am | Reply | Report comment Conservative Mom in CA Exactly. Wouldnt even need to be a hefty fee, just unsubsidized. I wonder, compared to other medical procedures, how much an abortion really costs. More or less than a root canal? Having a mole removed? January 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm scott

Always funny to see conservatives get upset over abortions yet, at the same time, support the invasion of other countries by our military in which innocent people die by no choice of their own. Just goes to show you their concerns over human life are not genuine. January 7, 2011 at 10:59 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron scott, yours is a limp old argument from another liberal. You failed to mention capital punishment. And, what about George W. Bush? Abortion is all his fault, isnt it? January 7, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply | Report comment Debra Scott, Your comment is mind-blowing ignorant. Our military does not deliberately & intentionally target innocent civilians .. thats not the mission. However, it is the mission of the death of an innocent life when a mother walks into an abortion clinic. By the way, civilian casualties are at an all time high under Obama . your point about Conservatives makes no sense. But then again, what should I expect? January 7, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman

Dont forget their fetishistic clamoring for executions, Scott. Thats actually my favorite part of their hypocrisy! January 7, 2011 at 11:16 am | Reply | Report comment Sarah The death penalty and abortion cannot be compared! Abortion kills an innocent fetus! The death penalty punishes the most heinous criminals! HMMMM, who would you rather have around? January 7, 2011 at 11:39 am DanB Talk to me when the State of New York executes 87,273 felons in a single year. January 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm Truth Im pretty sure every democrat senator that was in office voted for the war. January 7, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply | Report comment Debra LIBERAL MENTALITY You deserve life in prison if you harm an animal, Protect Death Row Inmates, Hug those beautiful trees, dont dare put water in a terrorists face . but its perfectly fine to mutilate a baby.

Sick & Twisted freaks January 7, 2011 at 10:53 am | Reply | Report comment gommygoomy GOOD! I cant think of ANYONE, in that Liberal Dump Hole, that Id want to reproduce. NONE OF THEM! January 7, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply | Report comment Dave Hey now.. Dont mess with a coveted liberal privilege, right up there with the unions. January 7, 2011 at 10:50 am | Reply | Report comment Josh So much for protecting the vunerable. Where is the NAACP/ACLU on this? January 7, 2011 at 10:49 am | Reply | Report comment Mike Did not see in the report who paid for these abortions, but Ill bet the majority were paid for at Tax Payer Expensestop the flow of money & reduce the numbers at the same time..Mike January 7, 2011 at 10:45 am | Reply | Report comment

Jim Taxpayers are better off paying the cost of the abortion. The alternative could be a lot more expensive. January 7, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply | Report comment Stan Overpopulation leads to wars. Wars over resources, land, water, and other stuff we keep using, but unable to replace. Responsible family planning could replace abortions. Id vote for baby licensing. If you want to have babies, you must first prove that you are both mentally and financially capable of becoming a good parent. This would take care of overpopulation, and we could enjoy the Earth for a little longer. Or we can choose to multiply like rats, and soon be treated like them. January 7, 2011 at 10:41 am | Reply | Report comment Debra Really? So since people who become disabled are a burden on society, should we just kill them too? Downs Syndrome, Alzheimers, those becoming a Quadriplegic, etc. What a sick & twisted mentality. January 7, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron

Stan, so why dont we punish all the little old ladies and mean old codgers for that war and pollution and kill everyone over 70 instead of those innocent little babies? January 7, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply | Report comment Ben Or we could control our borders, keep out the rifraf who hate what this country was founded on. Then, our country wouldnt be overpopulated by these unwanted children. There are so many people unable to have children that they go overseas just to have a baby of their own. January 7, 2011 at 10:56 am | Reply | Report comment Goldenfoxx Im against abortion, but all those abortions if carried to full term, would end up on welfare rolls the taxpayer will pay for them. Consider how many of them would be born with AIDS, or drug addiction, and the taxpayer paying for treatment. Its obvious that these women were not fit to be mothers in the first place. I believe it should be mandatory that any woman who uses abortion as a form of birth control, should be permanently sterilized. JMHO. January 7, 2011 at 10:40 am | Reply | Report comment Debra Just explain the horrific abortion procedures to a Liberal except change it from a baby to a puppy .. maybe then theyll get it

January 7, 2011 at 10:38 am | Reply | Report comment Tom TwoIron, I replied earlier to Tim. The reply shouls have been to you regarding liberals/progressives profound lack of knowledge about where babies come from.. Tim also doesnt realize there are thousands upon thousands of families wanting to adopt for one reason or another. January 7, 2011 at 10:35 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman How many have YOU adopted, Tom? And about the children of the poor Do you begrudge the salaries of their public school teachers? Do you begrudge the food stamps and WIC they require? Do you begrudge them their Medicaid? Do you begrudge them their public housing allowances? Do you begrudge the salaries of child welfare workers who investigate reports of sexual and physical abuse? Conservatives want there to be lots of unwanted, poor children, but they dont want them to have food, housing, education, medical care, or protection from abusive parents. January 7, 2011 at 10:44 am | Reply | Report comment Debra

So since Animal Shelters are over-crowded, should we just kill all the innocent animals too? LIBERAL MENTALITY You deserve life in prison if you harm an animal, Protect Death Row Inmates, Hug those beautiful trees, dont dare put water in a terrorists face . but by God, its perfectly fine to mutilate a baby. Sick & Twisted Freaks January 7, 2011 at 10:51 am Joe Anywomen Im not in favor of any abortion. why wont you answer my question and that is: why were you not aborted? I can tell you why I was not aborted. Againperhaps that a tough one for you. Your title does not suit you I dont believe that you represent anywomen January 7, 2011 at 10:52 am Brad D Pro-Slavers used the IDENTICAL argument against Abolitionists You abolitionists want to free black slaves, but none of you are willing to house or feed them, so youre hypocrites, blah blah blah. Spare us your sanctimonious drivel. January 7, 2011 at 10:54 am Tom Bigley

Would you agree that a turtle egg houses a turtle fetus the same way a human houses a human fetus? And yet if I am starving to death and consume a turtle egg I go to jail. Welcome to progressive America where unborn turtles are protected while unborn humans are murdered. January 7, 2011 at 10:54 am Tom Anywomen, You need to change your screen name. It would imply that anywoman has the same attitude ideology about abortion as you. You know you are in a very small minority. Do you begrudge personal responsibility? January 7, 2011 at 10:57 am twoiron Anywoman, I cant speak for Tom, but I adopted onea beautiful redheaded girl who knows her Lord Jesus Christ and is about to start her PhD program in chemistry. I am glad her mom loved her enough to NOT kill her before she got the chance you and I both did. January 7, 2011 at 10:59 am Joe

anywomen its okay to cry. I too understand why you were not aborted. Its never wrong to be right and this may be the place for you to go ahead and admit that you were wrong, and that its okay to love life enough to allow the innocent to live such as you were loved and given life. January 7, 2011 at 11:15 am Derek In any society where a mother can kill her own child, you have to ask the question: is anyone safe? January 7, 2011 at 10:31 am | Reply | Report comment MFIREBRAND1 The answer is no. January 7, 2011 at 10:49 am | Reply | Report comment RedStateRon Of course, it is bad.abortion; the only bright side of the story is that there are less liberals produced and a lesser number to move to the traditionally red states to corrupt our governments. Never have understood how the progressives and liberal democrats have been for reducing their numbers. January 7, 2011 at 10:26 am | Reply | Report comment rogue wave

They intend to continue to increase their numbers by courting illegals and muslims 2 groups which reproduce like rats. (also remember the voting dead) January 7, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply | Report comment Melissa How about not getting pregnant in the first place and using a different form of birth control instead of abortion? January 7, 2011 at 10:26 am | Reply | Report comment Tim The article explained that religious leaders dont like sex education programs that distribute condoms. So much for birth control!! January 7, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply | Report comment Jay Have you ever heard of Natural Family Planning? That is the correct form of birth control January 7, 2011 at 11:59 am Ron B MPLS that thy blood was shed for thee So much needless death..

January 7, 2011 at 10:18 am | Reply | Report comment Mel. I have had abortions and I have given 2 children up for adoption. Of course the adoptions were the less selfish acts. It amazes me that pro-abortionists women never want to discuss adoption. January 7, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply | Report comment Annie Mel, What a great thing, that you gave your children life and allowed them to be adopted. How compassionate you are. I wish more were like you. January 7, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply | Report comment Chad Bad Journalism.. after spending hours looking for the report itself.. I finally discovered that the report is about TEEN pregnancies and has nothing to do with pregnancies overall. Namely, the abortions correlate with lower incomes and a lack of healthcare. January 7, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply | Report comment Randy

Chad I am so sorry I just clicked on Report Comment thinking it said Comment there is nothing wrong with your comment, except for the fact that there are a lot of people who want to be parents who will pay for a woman to have her baby instead of aborting it.and that is rarely considered by many women who abort. January 7, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply | Report comment rvastar [Namely, the abortions correlate with lower incomes and a lack of healthcare.] Since one can get free or extremely cheap condoms on just about every block in NY city, your contention that lower incomes and a lack of healthcare are responsible for the unwanted pregnancies that lead to abortions is risible. Actually, abortions correlate with a lack of personal responsibility, on numerous levelsyet another gift from our progressive culture. January 7, 2011 at 10:34 am | Reply | Report comment reading is fun Actually, its obvious you didnt read it at all. Its a report on all NYCs vital stats- not just pregnancies. Well I DID just read the whole report and the part about abortion covers all age brackets. The 40% abortion rate is the average for ALL ages. Below 25, there are actually more abortions than live births. And for just teens the rate is 65%. How did you spend hours looking at the report and miss this? Its all on pages 86-88.

January 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Reply | Report comment Joe anywoman why werent you aborted? January 7, 2011 at 10:14 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman snicker snicker, Joe! Are you in favor of aborting the children of liberals, then? January 7, 2011 at 10:18 am | Reply | Report comment Joe Anywomen I will answer your question, even though you will not answer mine. Im not in favor of any abortion. why wont you answer my question and that is: why were you not aborted? Perhaps that a tough one for you. Your title does not suit you I dont believe that you represent anywomen January 7, 2011 at 10:29 am sara yes January 7, 2011 at 10:48 am Maureen

Mother Teresa said, the fruit of abortion is nuclear war. Yes, disrepect for human life will no doubt have blowback for mankind. How horriific that the new Governor of NY first sought approval from a radical abortion group-NARAL. Cureses will abound for NY unless he changes his heart and soul. January 7, 2011 at 10:12 am | Reply | Report comment Maureen Mother Teresas quote was, The fruit of abortion is nuclear war. The last sentence should read: Curses will abound for NY January 7, 2011 at 10:15 am | Reply | Report comment Luke Progressive Texans moved here from NYC based on my observations. Were getting taken over by these people from California and NY who think we should all live like they do. If it was so great where they came from why dont they move back? Its because their ideologies created the nightmare they are fleeing. January 7, 2011 at 10:10 am | Reply | Report comment mary lane Next we will have post birth abortion !!!!! What a great country we live in. No rights for the least of these, pre borns, infants, and elderly. Congratulations January 7, 2011 at 10:18 am | Reply | Report comment

Steven Clark Spot on! These progressives leave thses states because of high taxes, poor public services, corruption, etc and then move on to new states and vote the same way. January 7, 2011 at 10:18 am | Reply | Report comment Maureen These people are like one who is known as the destroyer -satan. They endorse all immorality and excess. There is a trail of destruction in their path just like satans. January 7, 2011 at 10:25 am | Reply | Report comment Derek I moved to Texas from NJ to escape this stuff. And I didnt for it when I was there and I dont vote for it here. I was a stranger in a strange land when I was there, and now Im home. January 7, 2011 at 10:28 am | Reply | Report comment bazgo My view, supported by the comments here, is that this is a hotly debated issue that is very emotional. Since we live in a country that values freedom and individuality, we need to leave these decisions (and their emotion consequences) to the individual women. When there is a debate, I think this country should err on the side of personal freedom. January 7, 2011 at 10:10 am | Reply | Report comment

twoiron bazgo, Easy for you to say. You arent about to be aborted. January 7, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply | Report comment yobaby so, if i want to go an murderous rampage, you would support me? you mean we have laws against murder?! well, there goes my personal freedomshucks! you and i both know there is right and wrongif not, then let the people do whatever their hearts and minds desirei am ALL for freedom, but NOT at the cost of another humans life. January 7, 2011 at 10:27 am Michael Consider this: When an appropriationist chooses to releive you of your property on the basis of their personal belief that no one should own property, what do you do? The fact is your rights end where another persons rights begin. So what is it that magically transforms the unborn tissue into a child, medically speaking? You and anywoman are so confused. January 7, 2011 at 10:48 am | Reply | Report comment jhofmann

Men have the choice to treat women with dignity. Women have the choice to respect themselves. When they do so, the result is a beautiful marital embrace which is open to life. When men & women exercise their freedom and use sex for their own selfish entertainment, there is a good chance they will be left with this emotional decision to either bring the result of their irresponsible behavior into the world or kill it. Abortion is the result of a series of bad choices fueled by societys contraceptive mentality which puts self above all else, including new life. The result of this and the sexual revolution is over 50 million babies murdered, an epidemic of STDs among our teens, and an increased risk of mental and physical health problems for post abortive women. But we should all turn away and wring our hands since, after all, its their choice. How selfish. January 7, 2011 at 10:57 am | Reply | Report comment Robin Thank you. Couldnt say it better myself. January 7, 2011 at 1:23 pm Salharmonic Fewer liberals, whats the big deal? January 7, 2011 at 10:04 am | Reply | Report comment skippythedog

There should be easy abortion in fact if a woman has a child who is already on welfare, she should not be able to have another one until she can prove that the taxpayers will not be stuck with the child. January 7, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply | Report comment Dave Fewer liberals, whats the big deal? Thats a trick. Its still the slaughter of the innocent lives one of Evils favorite past times. So by expressing those sentiments and allowing the Left the choice of aborting themselves slowly out of existence (as tempting as it seems) we become like them. Its a simple trick, that shouldnt work. January 7, 2011 at 10:46 am | Reply | Report comment Matthew Herren One does not need to have religious conviction to be appalled by these numbers. Whether you are pro or con on the abortion issue. long term psychological effects and physical risks are common and at the very least I think most would agree that obviously having this procedure is something that should be avoided if at all possible Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also at staggering numbers in New York City. Clearly, healthy sexual practices are not being used and it is something that the citizenry there should want to address

January 7, 2011 at 10:01 am | Reply | Report comment borntobepolitical So lets work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term. Obama Ask the fetuses how that hopy changy thing is going January 7, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply | Report comment doc As a PhD scientist I have a real problem squaring this circle. One woman pees on a pregnancy stick and is over-joyed that shes having a baby. Another woman pees on a stick, finds out shes pregnant and gets an abortion. How is it that one is a baby and another is not? January 7, 2011 at 10:16 am | Reply | Report comment Mike Well. First of all, as a PhD scientist (in something other than theology, right?) you should know that the terminology is fetus. January 7, 2011 at 1:06 pm Dave

The ONLY way to get the far-left to care about the individuals theyre killing is to give those individuals the right to vote. January 7, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply | Report comment John Smith Sad January 7, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply | Report comment excelsion When your children have no future, you will abort. It is the same in every progressive/socialist culture. It is a culture of death that will extinguish itself. It was no different in the old soviet union. It is no different in Europe, they are replacing themselves with Africans and South Indians. American liberals states are replacing themselves with Latinos and Asians January 7, 2011 at 9:49 am | Reply | Report comment Mike Naw. Progressives just recruit from the breeders. It doesnt take much usually. January 7, 2011 at 9:52 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron

All children have a future. All have the potential to be whatever they want to be and to become a blessing to their Creator. What else is there but hope? January 7, 2011 at 10:27 am | Reply | Report comment Religion Clouds Us I see quite a few people are enjoying the view from their high horses. January 7, 2011 at 9:48 am | Reply | Report comment sal It is called right vs. wrong. January 7, 2011 at 10:02 am | Reply | Report comment Really Donk? You are talking about perceived right and wrong. You know its wrong because thats how you feel. Just like I know it feels wrong to bring a child into this world knowing that it isnt going to be given the love and attention a human being needs to properly develop. January 7, 2011 at 10:09 am Larz Blackman People who want to pretend that its ok to kill a child are delusional. Its not about feelings, but if you cant feel it either, you border on sociopathic status.

January 7, 2011 at 10:15 am Just who the hell are you? People who make morality decisions for everyone arent delusional? Just who the hell are you? January 7, 2011 at 10:33 am Jeff C Working on the number the health department put on on births per year in NYC, that works out to about 172,000 murders, I mean abortions a year.. Sheesh, concentration camps in Germany wished they had those kind of #s.. January 7, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply | Report comment Tom Foster I dont see how anyone cannot see this as murder. Its a baby, your child, if you wait youll get to hold it in 9 months. Im not overly religous but this is just common sense as well, its murder. January 7, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply | Report comment ProgressiveTexan There is a point in time before an embryo has a central nervous system, before it can feel, before it is self aware, that I find it very difficult to lable it a person. After that point its a

different story. The problem is that there isnt a distinction between the two in public conversation. January 7, 2011 at 9:57 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Dont like abortion? Dont have one. And leave your so-called religious beliefs out of it. In the West, abortions were practiced right up until quickening until the middle of the nineteenth century with no controversy whatsoever. It was only when women began to exercise their individual freedoms (to vote, to own property, to divorce abusive husbands) that the anti-abortion movement was created. Why? To keep women bound to men and subservient. And religious beliefs were invoked then, as now, as justification. Your God ends where my womb begins. January 7, 2011 at 9:46 am | Reply | Report comment L. Alotta Dont like murder? dont murder anyone, but let those who dont mind kill who they want. Keep your beliefs to yourself!! January 7, 2011 at 9:53 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Oh snap! You totally changed my mind! Except not. Because a womans right to choose abortion is constitutionally protected. Unlike your example of murder.

Dont like that fact? Move to Iran, where your views on womens rights will put you in the majority instead of the minority. Your airing of your beliefs on an Internet comments page, followed with an admonition to me to keep [my] beliefs to [my]self[,] deserves no comment. January 7, 2011 at 9:59 am Michael Puerling what if I want to kill YOU? January 7, 2011 at 10:24 am CC @ L.Alotta- when you son gets murdered by street thugs just smile and say oh well obviously they believed in murder and you didnt and after all who are you to judge. January 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm Mike Actually I think their god ends a lot sooner, but hey. January 7, 2011 at 9:54 am | Reply | Report comment Matthew Herren One does not need to have religious conviction to be appalled by these numbers. Whether you are pro or con on the abortion

issue. long term psychological effects and physical risks are common and at the very least I think most would agree that obviously having this procedure is something that should be avoided if at all possible Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also a staggering numbers in New York City. Clearly, healthy sexual practices are not being used and it is something that the citizenry there should want to address. January 7, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply | Report comment Tk Thanks for referring to the most innocent among us as an instrument of subjugation for women. Your feminism, aka justification for being irresponsible, makes my head hurt. I need to get some fresh air. January 7, 2011 at 10:03 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Reading comprehension matters. The anti-abortion movement has the goal of subjugating women. Not babies. I have no problem with a wanted baby. What I have a problem with is a politician deciding he can FORCE me to have one. And irresponsible? Do you mean that women who have sex deserve to have to bear a baby because of it? What if she uses protection and gets pregnant anyway? Is that being irresponsible? What if the man (who ALSO had sex) leaves her? Was she irresponsible? Oh, DO explain your views.

January 7, 2011 at 10:15 am Tim Big thumbs up, anywoman!! Well stated! January 7, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply | Report comment mike Taking care of an infant is more of a chore, and expense, than carrying a pregnancy to term. And that born infant is totally dependent on the mothers care. Does that mean that mothers should have the legal right to murder their born infants? Thats the implication of EveryWoman, who is a very sick woman. January 7, 2011 at 11:36 am Tim I support anywomans stand on the side of freedom to choose whether to have a child or not. What right does the government, let alone religous establishments, have in forcing a woman to keep her pregnancy? If these entities can force people to do this, then there is no telling what else theyll want a woman to do with her body, regardless of the conditions. Its best to leave this as a personal decision. If you dont agree with abortion, then thats your decision. And, if someone believes they should terminate, then thats their decision. January 7, 2011 at 3:19 pm Anna

anywoman Im also curious have you ever wondered why you werent aborted? January 7, 2011 at 10:19 am | Reply | Report comment Tim If she were aborted, she wouldnt be around to think about it, now would she? Seems kind of pointless, dont you think? January 7, 2011 at 10:30 am Larz Blackman Your spin on history is irrelevant. Furthermore, just because some judges saw it as constitutionally protected doesnt make it right. It comes down to recognizing the inherent value in human life, understanding right from wrong on a very basic level, and accepting responsibility for ones actions. I hope your heart softens and mind opens to these ideas. January 7, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Well, Larz, just because some judges saw it as constitutionally protected DOES make it MY CHOICE. Whether or not you think I ought to exercise it is not relevant. And I see youre another one who proposes forced birth as a consequence to women for their actions, which I take to mean sexual intercourse. See, folks, this is what the anti-abortionists are really all about. They dont want unmarried women having sex. Or if they do,

they want women bound to the man who impregnated them, for financial support. January 7, 2011 at 10:34 am m I had not thought of this line of reason, as a student of history, I shall be very interested in looking the information up. A logic person would conclude the same when presented in this way. To the studies to back it up. January 7, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply | Report comment Michael NIce try anywoman, you can run but you cant hide. I could claim that I dont like gravity all I want. I can pass laws about base jumping and hopping and hang gliding but gravity is the law and can not be ignored. Every aeronautical engineer knows that the effect of gravity must be calculated and accounted for or you are headed for disaster. So it is with morality. Gods laws can be ignored and this too will lead to disaster. Have you not read of Rome, or Babylon or many other societies that chose to ignore morality and collapsed from within? Your selfishness and calousness is suprising. January 7, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Your unstated assumption is that I believe in your God.

Or that what I choose to do with my body should be based on what some TV preacher told you about a book full of myths from the Bronze Age. Try again. January 7, 2011 at 11:01 am Tom No Anywoman, Most of us made no such assumption. Its very clear you do not believe in God. Its also painfully clear that you do not believe in personal responsibilty when it comes to sex, and that you dont give a damn about the sanctity of life when it comes to a child in the womd, the most onnocent of all. January 7, 2011 at 12:37 pm yobaby So, ANYWOMANyou would subject the baby you are carrying to the same barbaric practices you accuse those through your historical contextwomen bound to the manno rights to vote, own property, divorce, live freelyyet a baby is bound to you and you would terminate its life at your discretion? hmmmmmyour logic and historical references only serve to show how inadequate your point really is. January 7, 2011 at 10:54 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Your analogy makes no sense.

But in answer to your question whether I would have an abortion . . . Yes, I would. What are you going to do about it, tough guy? Pull a Scott Roeder? January 7, 2011 at 11:06 am yobaby first of allim not a guysecond of allthe historical illtreatment of women bound to their man pales in comparison to a baby bound to you through no fault of their own and you would barbarically and ruthlessly end their existenceyou deny them expression, creativity and life itself. why you have such disdain for the practices of old is beyond me since you would happily carry out murderous injustice against another human life. the baby in your womb is not your twinit is not a cloneit is a separate, sacred and precious individual. and according to your point of viewif your baby were female, you would only prove that she is worthless, meaningless and disposable, just like the women in iran and in all your historical rants. you are the definition of a pathetic fooli am a woman defending the lives of all women (born and unborn)i will never support the right of a woman to terminate the life of an innocent human being. January 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm anywoman

Thats fine for you to have your opinions. The problem is, you want them to be my opinions too, and you want your opinions to have the force of law. January 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm rvastar [Your God ends where my womb begins.] Dont you mean where ObamaCare begins? Because Im willing to bet my house that you dont show the same zealous fealty to personal choice when it comes to people choosing how to pay for their health care decisions. January 7, 2011 at 11:13 am | Reply | Report comment anywoman Are you against Social Security? Or do you believe that senior citizens should be able to exercise their personal choice to die in the street? My sister has cancer and no insurance. Is this an indictment of the American health care system or is she simply exercising her personal choice to bankrupt our family? More on point, are you unaware that healthcare reform bill contains no federal funding for abortion? [Bonus points for the use of the word "fealty," though.] January 7, 2011 at 11:25 am

yobaby dont worry, anywomanjust treat your sister to the same joy you would your fetus. i mean, why notyou even admitted she was bankrupting your familyyour other friends on this same post have reasoned that a baby born to an unfit mother is too financially costly, so nip it in the bud (cheaper now then later sympathy at it best?!)but even if you cant bring yourself to terminating your ailing sister, eventually the government healthcare you so desire will do it for youshe would be considered too costly for the systemlights-out. will you indict your precious government care then? THINK ABOUT YOUR WORLDVIEW AND OPEN YOUR EYES!!! THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FORi was born in a health-care system like the one you champion government makes our problems worsei hope you live long enough to see it for yourself, but i am never going to stop fighting against people with your liberal worldviewnever. i left a socialist country once, dont care to live in one again. January 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm anywoman And yet despite the rantings of the uninformed the health care reform law is in effect and will remain so. And will apply to YOU! Quick! Into the bunker with our Goldline stash and our emergency rations of canned ravioli before they unplug Grandma! You know, the best part is that people like you really think it is apocalyptic. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

January 7, 2011 at 12:49 pm rvastar [Are you against Social Security? Or do you believe that senior citizens should be able to exercise their personal choice to die in the street?] Your argument is a non sequitur, based upon the false premise that without Social Security, American seniors would be dying in the streets. Without Social Security, Americans and their families would simply plan differently for their retirement years (i.e., more personal savings, combined households, etc.) But nice try [My sister has cancer and no insurance. Is this an indictment of the American health care system or is she simply exercising her personal choice to bankrupt our family?] I dont know. Is a person who has cancer WITH health insurance an EXCULPATION of the American health care system? Again, your false premise leads to a false conclusion, trying to frame the argument as an either/or proposition. Also, you provide absolutely no exculpatory detail regarding WHY your sister has cancer or WHY she has no health insurance. But since Im absolutely certain that youre going to CLAIM that neither is through any fault of her own in order to make your argument more sympathetic, its really pointless to argue since the unbiased truth is impossible to discern.

[More on point, are you unaware that healthcare reform bill contains no federal funding for abortion?] Actually, theres nothing in the bill that prevents funding for abortions. The withholding of funds for abortions is completely predicated upon an Executive Signing Order an order that can be unsigned in an instant and promises that it wont happen. Well, the Left promised that a welfare state would help reduce poverty in the black community instead its devastated it. The Left promised that Medicare would cost $12 billion in 1990, rather than the $110 billion it actually cost. IOW: in the long run, the Lefts promises arent worth the paper their written onjust like those written by Obama and Sebelius. But, through all your dancing around giving a straight answer, youve given the answer I expected from a Leftist: namely, that personal choice should only be reserved for those dimensions of human experience deemed acceptable by the Left. You should have control over your womb, just not your wallet. January 7, 2011 at 12:50 pm anywoman If, as you imply, it is hypocritical to support control over ones womb but not ones wallet, is it not equally hypocritical to support control over ones wallet but not ones womb? Your other boilerplate talk-radio talking points speak for themselves. January 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm

John Um, yes I am against social security. Give me my 6.2% (4.2 now) back every month and let ME decide how to plan for MY retirement. SS should never have been enacted. Period. Every wage earner has the right to decide where their money goes. Maybe I dont want to save for retirement. January 7, 2011 at 5:59 pm Jimmy How many children are created by doctors? Abortion and artificial creation go hand in hand. You cant have the good without the bad. Do people not realize how many people are on this planet? January 7, 2011 at 9:45 am | Reply | Report comment Tk Not enough! Thats why the Social security ponzi scheme is collapsing, but thanks for playing. January 7, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply | Report comment macpanther This datas a little fishy. How do they arrive at this percentage? Do they divide the number of abortions by the number of people who visit crisis pregnancy centers? The number of people who visit crisis pregnancy centers does not account for all women who might be pregnant. How would they even arrive at a

number of pregnancies. It is not something people are required to report. Beware of moral entrepreneurs in public office. January 7, 2011 at 9:41 am | Reply | Report comment Liz I think its interesting how people are so quick to want to say A woman should have the right to choose what she does to, or with her own body As a justification for having an abortion. When for one, that would be equivalent to saying I should be able to rob a bank or kill my neighbor, because I should have the right to do what I want with my own body So the first premise is faulty to begin with, Im pretty sure we can all agree that those types of things are NOT okay. Secondly, the baby inside a womans body is NOT to be mistaken as a part of her body. Its not up to her to decide who lives and who doesnt. That baby is not her, it is only residing inside of her. That baby has an entirely different set of DNA. Thats the point when we start to play God. Its scary how many people out there are okay with this, I have to agree, it is like a modern day genocide. January 7, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply | Report comment Steve Actually Liz your bank robbing analogy is completely off. An abortion does not effect anyone but the women, a bank robbery

effects others. And since the fetus would not surive without taking nutrition from the mother it is literally a part of the mother. The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a person. January 7, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply | Report comment Debra A 3 month old cant survive either if the mother doesnt feed it. Should the mother be allowed to mutilate her 3 month old? January 7, 2011 at 10:36 am Rob Actually Steve, your criticism of Lizs analogy is completely off. An abortion DOES affect more than just the woman. It affects an unborn child as well. In fact, it affects that unborn child quite a bit more than a bank robbery affects a teller. Also, just because the fetus would not survive without nutrition from the mother does not make it literally part of the mother. A newborn baby also would not survive without taking nutrition from its mother or caregiver. Children, including the unborn are the most vulnerable among us and should be defended. January 7, 2011 at 10:37 am Boomer The baby is a genetically unique individual in an early stage of human life. When you were attached to your mothers womb, that was you. It was never NOT you. It has ALWAYS been you.

You are an individual. You are a person. The baby is a person too. You would never (I hope) say Lets kill Grandpa as hes on a feeding tube after his surgery and is therefore not a person anymore. Hes too expensive for my lifestyle, so go ahead and just stick a vacuum tube in the base of his skull and suck his brains out. Its so stupid that even typing it makes my head hurt. So, as the baby is a person, an individual human being unlike any that has ever been born before on this planet, and abortion is basically murdering that person, more harm is actually done in the abortion than in the bank robbery. In the bank robbery theres less chance of someone dying, and most of the time the criminal gets caught and punished. In abortion someone always gets murdered and no one pays the price for the murder but the mother (physically, emotionally, psychologically, spiritually). The abortionist walks away having just murdered an innocent human being. January 7, 2011 at 10:53 am mike An infant cant survive on its own, but you would certainly not use that fact as justification for a woman killing her infant. January 7, 2011 at 12:00 pm Rolyat Well, Steve, I think we can see what kind of a society you yearn for:

If you cant survive on your own, youre an it not a person, and its O,K, to kill you. January 7, 2011 at 4:37 pm John Actually Liz your bank robbing analogy is completely off. An abortion does not effect anyone but the women Seriously? You think that? How about it effects: the unborn, the mother, the doctors who kill the unborn, the mothers family and friends who will probably feel the brunt of the emotional impact, oh and yes, how about the father of that unborn. The psychological effects on the mother alone are traumatic. If not immediately, later on in life. Less than 1% of abortions are a result of rape/incest. Less than 10% are a result of medical complications. The rest are convenience. January 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm Liz Actually Steve, my analogy does work. My point was that you cannot do anything you want with your body. Having an abortion vs. shooting someone with intent to kill (or robbing a bank, because that is still an act you use your body to do.) And an abortion DOES affect others, or another, The child! who is inside of the mother. You know, the one who is actually being aborted!! And where is your supporting evidence for your theory on The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a person ? You cant prove something is true just by saying it is. So basically by saying The fetus cannot survive on its own,

therefore, it is not a person. You are presupposing that if a person cannot survive on their own without the help of someone else(say the elderly or the sick) than they cant be classified as a person? Just because they need assistance or need tubes to feed them nutrition, just like a fetus needs nutrition from its mother, does not in any way make them unhuman. January 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm Liz Actually Steve, my analogy does work. My point was that you cannot do anything you want with your body. Having an abortion vs. shooting someone with intent to kill (or I used earlier, robbing a bank, which i used as an example of one way we use our bodies, which is not okay. Not in all cases is there murder, but it is still a crime none the less) Are one in the same. Someone is murdered in both cases. And an abortion DOES affect others, or another, The child! who is inside of the mother. You know, the one who is actually being aborted AKA Murdered! And where is your supporting evidence for your theory on The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a person ? You cant prove something is true just by saying it is. So basically by saying The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a person. You are presupposing that if a person cannot survive on their own without the help of someone else or something else(say the elderly or the sick)like someone who needs nutrients outside of their own body to keep healthy (which we all need from food, and without it we too could not survive) than they/we cant be classified as a person? A child inside the mothers womb needs nutrition yes, and depends on its mother for survival,just the same way you or I

depend on food and water for survival. So then are we all unhuman? January 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm mike311 that would be a lot of unwanted kids out there, lets ban abortion, im sure thats great for society. January 7, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply | Report comment Stephen So those kids, as unwanted as they are, dont have a right to life? Really? What makes you and your right to life better than those unwanted kids right to life? Is it because some how, youre better than they are? January 7, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply | Report comment Doug These are unwanted children. How cruel can you all be that want to ban abortion and leave these babies to lead neglected lives? Maybe the Church should endorse birth control? These mothers are going to continue to attempt pro-creation with these results. Its a shame, but its reality. January 7, 2011 at 4:24 pm Ryan Edision

First, enough the with zealots on both sides. Not all New Yorkers are ideologues, were mostly pragmatic, so if you want to bring abortions to a minimum put men in jail that do not step up and take care of their children, act like men for god sake. Second, Catholic Church, dont say you want to stop abortions and condemn the distribution of condoms in the same sentence, its counterproductive. But hey if we wanna argue about morality and liberty I guess the debate will never end while abortions keep happening. January 7, 2011 at 10:31 am | Reply | Report comment Riley Smiley Check the demographic of those women who choose to abort, most of them are Progressives and minorities, the Democratic base. January 7, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply | Report comment Red Ruffansore Noo Yackers are too stupid to reproduce, it should be 100% That liberal gene pool needs to be flushed. January 7, 2011 at 9:32 am | Reply | Report comment Jimmy Guy Tucker Whoever said that there is no evil, should visit the graves of these murdered children. Wait they are not buried, theyre thrown in the garbage. Some said the Nazis were pure evil.. January 7, 2011 at 9:30 am | Reply | Report comment

ActionJunkie Religion aside, this is MURDER. Tragic the steps people will take to make their lives easier. January 7, 2011 at 9:29 am | Reply | Report comment bing Your mother was pro-life January 7, 2011 at 9:29 am | Reply | Report comment Doug no, pro-choice. she chose to have me. she chose that way because she could afford to care for me and love me. i respect women that make the choice to abort when they cannot care for their children. January 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Reply | Report comment Tim It amazes me that religious leaders can gripe about abortions and condom distribution at the same time. January 7, 2011 at 9:26 am | Reply | Report comment touks Well, OBVIOUSLY the condom distribution program is a DISMAL FAILURE, wouldnt you agree??? If not, youre on Mars. You have to be SMART ENOUGH to put the condom ON

(before sex, dear child) for it to prevent pregnancy. Handing out condoms does nothing for the pregnancy rate except make it higher. Its called job security and profitability for certain kinds of clinics. January 7, 2011 at 9:34 am | Reply | Report comment tom The percentage of condom failure is around 17%, so out of 100 uses youd likely have 17 children created as the outcome most of which would be terminated through abortion. Condom distribution is not the answer. January 7, 2011 at 9:47 am | Reply | Report comment Tom So, theorehtically, 83 pregnancioes were avoided. Is that correct? Thats a pretty good start. January 7, 2011 at 10:40 am kimdi01 Just who is paying for these abortions? Could it be the taxpayers? I know that docotrs are not doing them pro bono. January 7, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply | Report comment mike So woman should have the right to kill their born infants? Is that your opinion?

January 7, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Reply | Report comment Shaune Heres hoping that all those NYC liberals abort themselves out of existence! It would make life so much better for the rest of us! January 7, 2011 at 9:20 am | Reply | Report comment boston234 Would love to see the demographics on this. January 7, 2011 at 9:17 am | Reply | Report comment Robert Liberals love their abortions because the practice slows the growth of the minority population and they will even argue that the abortion of babies of African descent keeps crime down. That along with imprisonment of African males for crimes that white males are slapped on the wrist for. These same lily white elites (or their surrogates like Obama) will cry for social justice for minorities but they themselves live in economically (racially) segregated areas, attend segregated schools and universities, and are given jobs by their parents or connected friends. Abortion has helped keep Africans in the minority and helped to promote liberal white power. January 7, 2011 at 9:15 am | Reply | Report comment Chet K.

In my NYC dating days, I was astounded by how many women I came across for whom abortion was a casual thing, just this side of Plan A. These were white educated professional women, ever so liberated, with no apparent concern for the fact that they were killing their own children for the sake of social concerns. I believe that the statistics would suprprise you in that regard. January 7, 2011 at 9:15 am | Reply | Report comment Mike Criticize them all you want but until you are willing to pay for their children, time and resources that they might not even have to dedicate to them, you dont get a say. Sorry. Not your decision. January 7, 2011 at 9:14 am | Reply | Report comment Kellyn How about they keep their legs crossed? January 7, 2011 at 9:33 am | Reply | Report comment Shelton There are years long waiting lists for infant adoption in every state. People are clamoring to take these children in, they are desperate to give their time, money, resources, and love to these kids. They usually end up spending around 25K in adoption fees to travel to the other side of the world to get a child since there are so few up for adoption here. Yours is a false argument.

January 7, 2011 at 9:34 am | Reply | Report comment mike You mean there are so few white babies. Lets be honest here, and straightforward. There is no shortage of latino or black children for adoption. But white people sure as hell are willing to go overseas to avoid having a black baby in their family. January 7, 2011 at 12:22 pm Stephen I will continue to criticize them because they are putting their comfort over the life of an innocent child. They could have given their child up for adoption instead of killing them. January 7, 2011 at 9:39 am | Reply | Report comment Falcon78 in Northern Virginia An abortion is the murder of a human beingjust like yourself. The baby inside a mothers womb is a human person from the time it is conceived. May God have mercy on this country for its sinful ways. January 7, 2011 at 9:13 am | Reply | Report comment Oak Park Lefty If youve got the strength to swallow a watermellon seed, youve got enough to take the pill.

January 7, 2011 at 9:12 am | Reply | Report comment Doug Glass They can make this claim because they have access to ALL pregnancies. Yeah right. Just another loud mouthed pseudo expert making claims for which there is no valid supporting data. January 7, 2011 at 9:10 am | Reply | Report comment WeThePeople Abortion IS the Publicly anointed Death Panel. It is Beginning of Life counseling. Taken to its most extreme end, It is a service to the State which lowers the burden of support (medical, financial, social, etc). Socialists do not look at the individual as people. They cannot see the forest for the trees. Their concern is the impact on society. One more mouth to feed, clothe, care for, and support in old age. Sad, very sad. 4 out of 10 persons murdered at birth. And we call the radical Islamics Terrorists! January 7, 2011 at 9:02 am | Reply | Report comment beenaroundyaknow Part of the Liberal abortions should be few and infrequent policy but we cant deny a womans right to choose. Such hypocracy.

January 7, 2011 at 9:01 am | Reply | Report comment Mike In MHO the act of sex is to procreate, so if a woman and man choose to do this act they should accept the consequences. theres thousands of adoption agencies and other places to get help why should your first choice be to kill it? I think a womans choice is the choice to choose to say yes or no to having sex. January 7, 2011 at 9:13 am | Reply | Report comment bill Agreed January 7, 2011 at 9:39 am Tom Agree 100%. Choice starts at sexual contact. Do I engage in sex that could result in a pregnancy or not? Once you take that risk, youve made your CHOICE! January 7, 2011 at 9:46 am mike So you guys have never once had intercourse for reasons other than reproduction? What boring lives. How sad. January 7, 2011 at 9:59 am

Tom Yeah, Mike, Ive had intercourse for reasons other than to make a baby. I use or used protection to avoid an unwanted or accidental pregnancy. If you dont have access to birth control, dont have intercourse because you know what your risking. Theres also specific times of the month where intercourse is pretty safe. How old are you, Mike. Does this really need to be explained? January 7, 2011 at 10:07 am Mike Woe unto them that call good evil and evil good Isaiah 5.20 NYC needs to repent and seek God quickly. January 7, 2011 at 9:00 am | Reply | Report comment phil christe How many are repeat abortions? How many are on black women? I bet the numbers would startle most people. Last time I checked health dept stats, the abortion rate, measured in per 1000 births was 1100 for black women. 90%, I bet, paid for by medicaid and performed by Planned Parenthood. You might call this state sponsored genocide. January 7, 2011 at 9:00 am | Reply | Report comment Jason

110%? When was the last time you checked health dept stats? January 7, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply | Report comment Stephen January 7, 2011 at 9:57 am Ausett31 Phil Christie, which year are you basing your stats on? Is the stat based on NYC or the nation? I have seen no such stat to support your comment and your opinion that 90% of these abortions were financed by Medicaid and Planned Parent Hood. Also, Black women were not in the fore front to legalize abortion, it was white women. January 7, 2011 at 9:36 am | Reply | Report comment cjs i am a retired obgyn and i promise you, medicaid doesnt pay for abortion except in the case of life or death issues with the mother. abortions are paid for with cash. January 7, 2011 at 9:57 am | Reply | Report comment joseph Medicaid will pay for services ancillary to the abortion, such as an ultrasound exam. So, abortion is funded by your tax dollars. January 7, 2011 at 10:07 am

stevens 41% is an astounding percetage! NYC is a modern day Gommorah. January 7, 2011 at 8:56 am | Reply | Report comment Rob in San Fran When do we get those death panels I voted for? January 7, 2011 at 8:53 am | Reply | Report comment Borrowed Time Convenience abortions:what a tragedy. So many hugs, smiles, I love yous left cold. January 7, 2011 at 8:52 am | Reply | Report comment leslie Liberals love their abortions. Thats the one and only thing they will stand and defend. Oh war is bad, terriosts need rights, they want to decide how you live your life. But never and I mean never tell them they cant kill their babies. January 7, 2011 at 8:47 am | Reply | Report comment Tim Oh yeah, I can just picture those crazy liberals laughing and partying their way to the abortion clinic. Or maybe, it pains them to make such a decision, but not without having considered

the deep impacts that having a child would have on their lives. You see, Leslie, we live in a free country where people have reproductive rights, unlike the imaginary land of dogmatic, theocratic fascism that youd prefer to dwell. So the real tragedy is not allowing abortions, but rather having to put up with people like you who cant think past the tip of their own nose, and instead find it easier to condemn and ridicule without so much as a thought about the situation a person may find themselves in. January 7, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply | Report comment ProgressiveTexan Thank you for articulating this so perfectly. January 7, 2011 at 9:47 am lj You are one selfish human being. Sorry the dead child got in the way of your reproductive rights. Sorry, but the REAL TRAGEDY is the dead baby, not that someone wants to remind you of that fact. January 7, 2011 at 9:51 am mike You are premising that the fetus is not a human life, therefore it can be disposed of like an unwanted skin growth. This is your conceptual error:

The so called fetus is a human life in the process of being formed. It is a stage in the development of a human being. You were at that stage of development at one time, as was your mom, dad, and everyone else that you love. You were one of the lucky fetuses that were not destroyed in the womb. January 7, 2011 at 9:56 am Bohoco Tim, I can tell you who knows all about the situations that people find themselves in. They work in crisis pregnancy centers and they have heard every story there is to hear. They know a human life, created in Gods image, is of more worth any temporary solution to their very feel problems. And they are available to help anyone give life to their child. No one else can give that child life, but many would love to give it a good home. I believe that is thinking beyond the nose as you say. January 7, 2011 at 9:56 am twoiron Tim, Reproductive rights exist up to the point unprotected vaginal intercourse begins. At the point of conception, those rights give way to the right of the unborn baby to live. Call it dogmatic, theocratic fascism if you like, but dont be upset when I call abortion the willful murder of a totally innocent and defenseless unborn child. Intercourse is the opportunity that a man and a woman have to participate in the creation of a new life. I guess

the fact that Liberals dont seem to understand where babies come from (i.e., having unprotected sex) is not just a tired old joke. January 7, 2011 at 9:57 am rvastar [You see, Leslie, we live in a free country where people have reproductive rights, unlike the imaginary land of dogmatic, theocratic fascism that youd prefer to dwell.] What about the right to life of the human being thats being aborted, Tim? And before you start the standard Leftist mantra about its not a human being, its just a bunch of cells, a few questions Are you a human being? Yes. What makes you a human being? The DNA that you received from your mother and your father. When did your mother and fathers DNA combine to create you? At the moment of conception. Would it be possible for you to be alive now without the combination of your mother and fathers DNA? No. Were you alive BEFORE your mother and fathers DNA combined? No. So, Tim, if your life didnt begin at conception, 1) how did you receive your fathers DNA and 2) how are you alive now?

January 7, 2011 at 10:20 am Tom Tim Liberals, progressives, and femminists no where babies come from and how they are made, they just dont believe in personal responsibility. Its really a selfish, self-righteous kind of attitude. January 7, 2011 at 10:22 am Tim Funny how none of you seem to mention the life of a child after its born. All of you foam at the mouth over the thought of terminating an embryonic pregnancy. But, should that baby be born to a single mother, then the two of them are instantly labelled drains on society, and then you zealots gripe and moan about having to pay a single penny into a welfare system funded by taxpayer dollars. You people are disgusting hypocrites! Go cry your river of tears to someone else! Thankfully, Roe v. Wade has settled this matter, and we dont have to live in your land of religious fascism. Freedom and democracy wins in America! Hooray! So, GFY!! January 7, 2011 at 10:24 am Tom Yeah, Tim. What about freedom? What about those inalieable rights

endowed by our creator, Life, Liberty, and the Pursiut of Happiness. Where does abortion fit in there? Your a fool. Youre probably an athiest too. (and a femminist) January 7, 2011 at 10:52 am rvastar [Funny how none of you seem to mention the life of a child after its born.] So to avoid a life hardship for a child, the kind thing to do is to kill it. Very progressive of you. [All of you foam at the mouth over the thought of terminating an embryonic pregnancy. But, should that baby be born to a single mother, then the two of them are instantly labelled drains on society, and then you zealots gripe and moan about having to pay a single penny into a welfare system funded by taxpayer dollars.] Please give us your logical explanation as to why the ablebodied single mother of the child should be EXCUSED from responsibility for providing for said child, yet taxpayers should be SADDLED with that responsibility. IOW: what right does she have or her child have, for that matter to money that they didnt earn? [You people are disgusting hypocrites! Go cry your river of tears to someone else!]

Ad hominem insults from a Leftist. How shocking. [Thankfully, Roe v. Wade has settled this matter, and we dont have to live in your land of religious fascism.] Actually, there are plenty of very liberal legal scholars who believe that Roe v. Wade is bad law and subject to repeal in the future. So stay tuned As for your obvious hatred of religious people, Ill simply remind you of the FACT that the most murderous group of people in human history BY FAR were not Christians, Jews, or Muslimsthey were your ATHEIST bretheren in the Soviet Union and China. Have a nice day living in your ignorance January 7, 2011 at 10:53 am Mic Of the approx. 50 million abortions since 1973, about 25 million or so would be adults now, working and paying into the system that is so far in debt . The Social Security system would be balanced if we had 25 million more workers in this country. Just think of the great men and women of America that never were, just because their mother didnt want to be bothered with a baby. What if Henry Ford had been aborted? What is Albert Einstein was aborted? You just never will know (or maybe we will!) how great this country could have been if it werent for the scourge of abortion. Arent you glad your mother chose life? God will not be mocked, there will be a reckoning for the blood of the innocents cries out to Him from the ground!

January 7, 2011 at 11:02 am Tom Well said, Rvastar! Tim is a fool. January 7, 2011 at 11:02 am rvastar [Well said, Rvastar! Tim is a fool.] Heres a quote that sums up people like Tim perfectly: Marxism [and all its offshoots - i.e. socialism, progressivism, etc.] is intellectualism for stupid people. Moe Lane January 7, 2011 at 11:26 am Tim Roe v. Wade! Thanks for playing! January 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm rvastar [Roe v. Wade! Thanks for playing!] And may Leftists such as yourself continue taking full advantage of it. After all, its bringing about results such as this: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sc-dc1222-redistricting-census-updat20101221,0,7067155.story

and this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/128036/New-Normal-AbortionAmericans-Pro-Life.aspx Tick-tock, tick-tock January 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm Steve Scott you, like Animalaura, are an idiot. It is a shame that the two of you werent aborted. January 7, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Tim, That is one of the dumbest things Ive ever seen. To put a smiley face after the words Roe v. Wade as if thats something to smile about. Just wow! January 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Reply | Report comment Doug What if Mao was aborted? What if Hitler was aborted? What if Ghengis Khan were aborted? You cannot make an argument for who could have or should have been aborted.

As for another 25M taxpayer? You have to assume they were employed and net poayers not a net burden (which is more likely). January 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Reply | Report comment Tim Anything I can do to irritate you from atop your moral high horse, Tom! January 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Its a two way street,Tim. Anything I can do to irritate you from underneath your moral low horse. January 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Reply | Report comment tom In addition, Tim, I dont type very well at all, but weve established the fact tat you can read! January 7, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Reply | Report comment Robert And someone could argue that the Nazi Party did its part for population control.You are a sick bigot.And a perfect example of the pro-choice(pro-death) mentality. January 7, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Reply | Report comment

Tom Bigley FMy parish has purchased several homes for expectant mothers. We feed them, clothe them, and pay their living expenses and tuition. They can stay as long as they want, no strings attached. One mother left a few months ago with a degree in nursing, a new baby and a new job. How can this possibly be a bad thing? January 7, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Reply | Report comment MaryofAz You call slaughtering innocents crime prevention. Who raised you? Sounds to me like you have a real serious personality disorder to make light of such a horror. Unbelievable. January 7, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Reply | Report comment anywoman Its not. Its not a bad thing at all. Is it a bad thing to force a woman to carry a child to term against her will? January 7, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Reply | Report comment Tom Bigley Anywoman -

Perhaps her will would be otherwise if people like you gave their time to those in need. January 7, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Reply | Report comment cazzone I am against abortion but your mother shouldve stuffed a coat hanger and gotten you out! January 8, 2011 at 11:07 am | Reply | Report comment Robert 39% 0f pregnancies in the Bronx end in abortion? Doesnt surprise me one bit. The Bronx is a wasteland of barbarians. There are abortion clinics and animal slaughter houses everywhere, it has a dark Karmic cloud over it. Whos then surprised of the high crime rate and violence? Its a depressing place! I was born and raised there and didnt look back the day I left. January 8, 2011 at 11:15 am | Reply | Report comment Keith I believe 1 in 3 are black but I would say that most of these are liberalsIm black and hope to have a few more kids myself we also dont need anymore feckless whites but I dont think abortion is the answer. January 8, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply | Report comment

Tom Thats it, Cazzone, one idiotic comment, then ? Surely you can provide some more entertainment January 8, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Reply | Report comment Sanity Whats a Jewesses? How is that relevant to the story you racist pig. January 9, 2011 at 1:35 am | Reply | Report comment Chris Mone blaine ? you are a nutcase piggy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! January 9, 2011 at 4:38 am | Reply | Report comment Alan How does ad hominen contribute to the debate? January 9, 2011 at 3:26 am | Reply | Report comment twoiron SB, are you asserting that church guidance on birth control is being listened to, but its opinions on abortion are being ignored? Seems preposterous. January 9, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Reply | Report comment

DOPE-BENEDICT XVI, S.S. Who listens to the Roman Catholic Church anymore? They have been exposed for their hypocrisy. Even in traditionally Catholic countries their numbers are dwindling rapidly. Very few attend Church and many more are going to other religions. So of course the church wants to be visible and vocal now. Its desperate. So who gives a flying duck about the Catholic Church? Let this fat pig say all he wants, at the end of the day hes just another fat sexually repressed moron like all the rest. January 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Reply | Report comment Sharon Barnes @twoiron Well, it is certainly being listened to inside my family. My sons about to be ex-wife is Catholic and so are his kids. She will not tolerate any discussion of or any person who has had an abortion. If he didnt want 12 kids he had to use the birth control. January 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Reply | Report comment So Mote it Be Hey Joe, you are the 800lb gorilla in the room! January 9, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Reply | Report comment

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