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Date: 05/08/07 09:58 Modern locomotive prices Author: steeplecab I've searched the site for a reference to the price of the newer road locomotives from EMD or GE. Nothing showed up. Can someone give me a ballpark price for say an SD70ACe ? I'd prefer BNSF if somebody has it. Thanks! [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 11:00 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: pal77 I remember reading $1.2M for DC and 1.8 for ac drive. Not absolutely positive Im sure someone will correct it incorrect. [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 11:03 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: fredkharrison A new locomotive costs more than twice that of a rebuilt locomotive, and while it is more modern, delivery can take up to 10 months. Prices back in 2001 were from about $1,500,000 for DC units like an SD70 to about $2,300,000 for an AC unit such as the SD90MAC, with the average price for a new locomotive at about $1,700,000. SD70ACe Basic Features Engine 16-710G3C-T2 High efficiency turbocharger Electronic fuel injection Tier-2 emissions certified AC Traction Technology Utilizes truck-controlled IGBT inverters for higher inherent reliability Simple, robust motor design Extends motor overhaul interval Gen2 FIRE System Transreflective LCD color display for enhanced readability Provides a single integrated archive for ease of maintenance and troubleshooting Based on an open architecture which supports numerous 3rd party applications

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Various wireless communications packages available (Cellular, Wireless LAN, etc) to support IntelliTrain and Locomotive Management Services HTSC Bolsterless Truck Designed for one million miles between overhauls Reduce maintenance due to fewer components Specifications Total weight on rails - 408,000 lbs. Height - 15'11" Overall length - 74'3" ft. Fuel capacity - 4,900 gal. Lube oil capacity - 420 gal. Cooling water capacity - 275 gal. Cab Features Three seat crew arrangement Ergonomic workstation Increased leg clearance and mobility Optimized access to the radio Easier maintenance access Enhanced HVAC ventilation Air System Direct drive air compressor Wabtec FastBrake Locomotive Brake System Advanced onboard diagnostics FastBrake intelligence integrated into EM2000 and Gen2 FIRE Simpler FastBrake design allows for 50% reduction in parts count OPTIONAL PERFORMANCE FEATURES IntelliTrain - Remote monitoring and analysis Radial truck Integrated Distributed Power Global Positioning System (GPS) Electronic fuel gauge with or without dynamic AEI tags Remote download of event recorder Fred Harrison Central Point, OR CORPpower/JSS/EORS [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 12:55 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: Steamjocky They need to do some more work on the LCD displays as they are almost impossible to see when direct sunlight hits the screens and make the numbers a little large for us old guys. They also need to work on the ergonomic work stations, or control stands in laymans language, which is still somewhat uncomfortable. They also need to do something about the electronic automatic brake valve or bring back a real brake valve that is actually usable, which I'm sure they won't do. To me, it's kind of hard to get the feel for the train or locomotive consist with the two electronic brake valves.

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Am I the only engineer who feels this way? JDE - feeling like a dinosaur [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 14:05 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: wa4umr fredkharrison Wrote: > > > > > > > > > . . . > > > > > > SD70ACe Basic Features Engine 16-710G3C-T2 High efficiency turbocharger Electronic fuel injection Tier-2 emissions certified AC Traction Technology

Radial truck Integrated Distributed Power Global Positioning System (GPS) Electronic fuel gauge with or without dynamic AEI tags Remote download of event recorder

Gee. Wouldn't you love to get a blank window sticker and put all that stuff on it and stick it in the window at a new car or truck dealership? Talk about sticker shock, especially if you put the price and a realistic fuel usage guestimate on it. John [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 15:19 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: ACR_Ted And I can remember when you could get 3 new SD40's for $1 million in your choice of colors ;) Ted [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 19:17 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: EMD645V-20

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On the GE side of things, CSX I heard is paying 1.4 Million apiece for there ES44DC's. Now they get there stuff pretty bare-bones, and don't have half the tecno-crap that BNSF would put in the same loco. Like distributed power, pace-setter equipment. They did get the remote downloading and special ordered extra weight on the loco making it one of there "Heavies" rated at 432,000 lbs. Versus BNSF's 420,000 I believe. [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/08/07 21:47 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: wigwagfan steeplecab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------> I've searched the site for a reference to the > price of the newer road locomotives from EMD or > GE. Nothing showed up. Can someone give me a > ballpark price for say an SD70ACe ? I'd prefer > BNSF if somebody has it. Thanks! According to page 17 of BNSF's 2006 Annual Report, BNSF was in the process of purchasing 200 locomotives at a cost of $350 million - or $1.75M per locomotive - in Fiscal Year 2007. [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/09/07 09:17 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: SLOCONDR Steamjocky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------> Am I the only engineer who feels this way? Who ever said you were an Engineer ???

> JDE - feeling like a dinosaur Lookin' like one too...... [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 05/09/07 11:52 Re: Modern locomotive prices Author: GP40X Any idea of the price delta between HTSC and HTCR trucks?

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