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[6:39:05 pm] dinesh says: hare krishna prabhu,u r back after a very long time.

[6:39:49 pm] kaunteya das says: these days i am not much on line as i don't have
automatic connection (i go to an internet cafe).
[6:42:20 pm] dinesh says: where are you now prabhu?
[6:42:26 pm] dinesh says: still in vrindavan?
[6:42:38 pm] kaunteya das says: yes.
[6:43:05 pm] dinesh says: how is ur health now?
[6:43:34 pm] dinesh says: prabhuji i have a doubt.
[6:44:05 pm] kaunteya das says: my health is better than what i deserve. :p
[6:44:09 pm] kaunteya das says: what is the doubt?
[6:44:54 pm] dinesh says: how do we know that he is my spiritual master, i mean
diksha guru?
[6:45:54 pm] kaunteya das says: "he is" who?
[6:46:00 pm] kaunteya das says: in general?
[6:46:14 pm] kaunteya das says: is your question "how do i know who is my diksa
guru"?
[6:46:17 pm] dinesh says: spiritual master
[6:46:36 pm] dinesh says: ya
[6:47:05 pm] kaunteya das says: there are many factors/considerations.
[6:47:14 pm] kaunteya das says: of course ultimately it's a question of
inspiration.
[6:47:17 pm] dinesh says: is it based on the inspiration we get upon hearing from
them?
[6:48:05 pm] kaunteya das says: here are some factors to consider:
[6:48:07 pm] kaunteya das says: choosing a spiritual master

points to help to arrive at a decision:

1. to be inspired by a particular guru or by the spiritual master's


enthusiasm or intensity, and also want to get that same kind of spirit
of devotional service is one reason to choose a particular guru.

2. if one is inspired by a guru's preaching and it enthuses him or her


in their devotional service.

3. one may have faith that the vibration of the spiritual master is
totally krishna conscious and want to acquire that vibration.

4. to desire to help the spiritual master in his particular mission of


serving srila prabhupada.

5. one particular guru is more mercifully inclined towards caring for


the spiritual welfare of the devotee or is more merciful towards the
devotee.

6. the disciple wants to ensure a relationship with the spiritual


mater and see an eternal relationship is established.

7. one guru inspires one to develop more faith and devotion for srila
prabhupada.

8. one feels that krishna and srila prabhupada are speaking clearly to
the disciple through a particular spiritual master.

9. if by the preaching of the spiritual master one's doubts and


anarthas are removed then that is another reason to accept him.

10. one can open the heart and communicate and there is kc
reciprocation. this may be an external reason, not so spiritual, but
perhaps an important point. this is also an aspect of bhakti.

11. the guru represents the gurvastaka prayers best in your opinion.

12. one can put all confidence in him and fully trust that he would
advice and instruct always according to guru,sastra and sadhu and
wouldn't lead one away from srila prabhupada and krishna.

13. one feels more attached to the particular guru and also feels more
separation from him.

14. the spiritual master is able to bring out the best devotional
quality in you and keeps on inspiring you to new heights of devotional
service.

15. by following the guru's instructions one feels more closer to


krishna.
[6:52:06 pm] dinesh says: in my case i felt like rns inspired me a lot. but i
heard that he does not give initiation 2 anyone since 2 yrs.already there are
thousands in waiting list...
[6:54:07 pm] dinesh says: but i also heard from sankarshan das prabhu that one can
realize only if he accepts diksha guru. only then can he come to reality.
[6:54:31 pm] kaunteya das says: i doubt that this is true, that he doesn't give
initiation since two years. i never heard it before.
[6:54:44 pm] dinesh says: so i feel initiation is something very urgent to start
practicing ds.
[6:54:54 pm] dinesh says: i want ur suggestion prabhu
[6:55:31 pm] kaunteya das says: initiation is essential. if you want radhanath
maharaja as your diksa guru i suggest you enquire directly (or at least to the |
chowpatty temple) if he is giving or not.
[6:56:19 pm] dinesh says: once a person asked sankarshan das prabhu that he his
chanting sincerely and does sadhana also nicely but stil he gets allured by
material lust.
[6:56:39 pm] dinesh says: sankarshanprabhu answered him to take initiation..
[7:01:20 pm] kaunteya das says: initiation is an essential step, of course, who
doubts that?
[7:02:27 pm] dinesh says: not me prabhu :)
[7:02:30 pm] kaunteya das says: (i have to go in a few minutes).
[7:02:54 pm] dinesh says: ok prabhu
[7:03:14 pm] dinesh says: thanks for ur time prabhuji (y)

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