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Proof of Divinity
[January 06, 2007. Smt. Shrutakirti from Hyderabad revealed her
Divine experience as follows: “On December 24th 2006, I slept with
some worry and I got a divine dream in which Swami walked into my
house. He was radiating a light brighter than the light of a thousand
Suns. Every footprint of Him was shining with a pure golden color.
Swami consoled me and preached Divine Knowledge. At the end
Swami told me that He is giving a proof for the reality of His entrance
into the dream. Then Swami told me that if I verify the calendar of
2007, the star [constellation, according to Astrology] on 21st May 2007
is Punarvasu. This statement was repeated three times by Swami and
then He disappeared. I awoke early in the morning and told about the
dream to my husband. We had not yet purchased the calendar for the
New Year [2007]. My husband rushed to our neighbor and brought the
calendar to verify the truth. We were extremely surprised to see the
name of the Punarvasu star on the 21st of May 2007. Even the composer
of the calendar could not have guessed this. I immediately phoned
Swami and told Him about my dream.
Swami said: ‘Any proof from a dream will be treated only as a
dream and cannot be realized as the truth in this world on waking. Some
days ago I told you that I am coming to your house on a particular day.
On that day there was a profuse scent of lotus flowers in your house,
which was absent outside the house simultaneously in every direction.
That was a proof for My entry into your house in your waking state. If I
exhibit the same scent in your dream, it is not a real proof because it
becomes a part of the dream and will be treated as unreal along with the
unreal dream.’ I immediately phoned and told about this experience to
all the devotees of Swami”. Following is the divine discourse given by
Swami regarding this incident].
O Learned And Devoted Servants of God,
If the human incarnation materializes matter, you say that it is a
magic trick. If the Lord gives divine visions, you will say that it is an
illusion of the eye. You know that Smt. Bharati saw the divine vision of
Lord Datta. She put her finger in the bright radiating wheel revolving on
My finger to test the possibility of an illusion of the eye. You know that
she immediately fell down and was unconscious for a long time. You
know that the doctor also stated that her heart and body had been
subjected to a shock by high voltage electricity. Her finger also
remained stiff for three days. In spite of all this, doubts still remain in
your hearts.
Now analyze this small proof in the dream. Even though it is
small, it is most perfect from all angles. You know that Shrutakirti is
very innocent and ignorant. How can she tell this [the exact
constellation on a particular day] even in her waking state? Perhaps
some mathematical genius may be able to tell this after doing some
calculations and such calculations are impossible in the state of a dream.
Miracles cannot satisfy atheists, who are always ready with alternative
interpretations. But what sort of interpretation can they give for this?
Ofcourse, one should doubt everything and everybody and should
analyze intensively to find out the truth. But there should be a full stop
even for analysis.
Miracles are the yardstick of ignorant people to measure the
Divinity of the Lord. I stayed in the house of Smt. Bhavani for two
years. She would always ask Me to tell her the thought that was going
on in her mind at that time. That was her yardstick to measure My
Divinity! I told her that even an evil person who has mastered a type of
black magic called Karnapishachi could reveal her thoughts. But she
insisted on it every day. One day I told her that I would tell her the
thought in her mind once provided that she does not insist on it again.
She agreed and I revealed the secret statement that she was thinking in
her mind. She was very happy. But the next day she asked again. She
thought that I might have correctly guessed the previous statement in
her mind just by coincidence. Suddenly her third son, who was upstairs
in the house, came down shouting at her for such a foolish test. He was
roaring since Kalabhairava had possessed him. There is no end for the
doubts of doubting Thomas.
Miracles indicate the existence of unimaginability. The
unimaginability is God and its existence indicates the existence of God.
The unimaginable power is the source of the miracle. The source of that
power is God. That power may or may not give the address of God in a
person who exhibits the miracle. But the miracle gives proof of the
existence of that power in that person. The power gives the indirect
existence of God elsewhere. Therefore the miracle is an indirect proof of
the existence of God but not the direct proof of the address of God.
Black magic is also a power of God, which is given to Satan. Satan and
his followers are sufficient for atheists to prove the existence of
superpowers and thereby the existence of God indirectly. Let the atheist
cross the miracle of a demon first. The theist should be above the level
of these miracles and should try to achieve Divine grace of God through
spiritual knowledge, devotion and selfless service through sacrifice in
the Divine mission of the Lord.
If a postgraduate student forgets the alphabet, what to do? Similar
is the case of the theist who wants miracles as proof. The theist requires
correct guidance by correct spiritual knowledge of that standard.
Therefore divine knowledge alone can be the proof of God as per the
Veda. The exceptional quality of the divine knowledge (Prajnanam) is
the spontaneous proof. You can experience the highest quality of the
knowledge available and there is no need of any testing procedure for
that. How do you select the Miss World? You experience the
spontaneous beauty directly and there is no need of instruments to test
her beauty. You select the top most beauty available in the competition.
If you say that some greater beauty may exist somewhere and at
sometime in this world, the result of the competition can never be
declared. Only ugly sadists will say this.
The Gita says that the possessor of such topmost knowledge that
can give the most perfect guidance to the souls is God Himself
(Jnanitvatmaiva…). The importance of Divine Knowledge is only due to
the importance of correct guidance in the spiritual path. For this the
exhibition of miracles is not required. The exhibition of super powers
through miracles is needed only for the low level of atheists and to
punish the low level devils. When a high level police officer is invited to
address the students in a college, he goes there in a normal civil dress.
When he has to deal with criminals, he will be there in the police
uniform. Even there, he will send his subordinates in uniform to deal
with the criminals. But he will not send his subordinates in uniform to
address the college. Similarly God comes to preach Divine Knowledge
and sends His subordinates to exhibit miracles. Since the majority is in
the lower strata, miracles have to be exhibited widely. Hence God gives
the super powers even to devils. The miracles include even the
miraculous experiences in the life of any one, which prove the existence
of the unimaginable God. Miracles and knowledge are the two
requirements of people here in the lower and higher levels respectively.
Generally God Himself meets the requirement of the higher level [by
giving knowledge]. Liberated souls who are the servants of God,
generally meet the requirement of lower level [by showing miracles].
Debate with Atheists
Today atheists met in a conference in this city and talked as they
liked. I can answer every point raised by them provided they are not
rigid conservatives of atheism and have an open mind to accept the
Atheist: There are 33 crores [330 million] of deities in India and
yet poor people are suffering.
Swami: There are several teachers in a school who teach classes
equally. Why are all the students not of equal standard? The
cloud rains the same water drops. Why does one drop fallen in
the pearl shell become a pearl and another drop fallen in a
mud pond become mud? The Creator is equal to all but the
creation has differences by its own nature of merits and
defects. Are there no differences among people in foreign
countries where there is only one God? The 33 crores of water
drops (deities) have the same content of water (God). Due to
the association of different materials, some drops became
pearls and some became mud. The difference in the deities is
due to the superimposed varied nature of human beings. You
have indirectly indicated the inevitable differences in the
Atheist: Religious exploitations have led to the misery of poor
people. Why should there be golden ornaments and jewels on
statues in the temple when poor people are suffering?
Swami: I agree that there is some religious exploitation done by
selfish priests. But these exploitations are not of such
magnitude to cause the poverty of some people. Politicians
and rich people are responsible for the poverty of those
people. Even terrorists attack such rich people and not the
priests. You are diverting the main issue to the wrong
direction of a minor negligible issue. Your main issue is the
negation of the existence of God. It is one of the paths in
philosophy and hence Sage Vidyaranya gave a place to the
philosophy of atheism proposed by Charvaka. But now you
are trying to get the support of poor people by such a
diversion. Now you are no more a philosopher but you are a
politician. Actually you are harming the poor people who live
peacefully with pure devotion for God. Their devotion is
excellent and God is giving them peace and a lot of happiness.
Rich people are not blessed with such peace and bliss due to
their impure devotion. Money is not the single criterion of
life. Religion is doing social service along with devotion to
God so that suffering people get blessings from God. Take a
patient of cancer or AIDS. Your social service cannot change
his worry. Only the concept of spiritual knowledge and
devotion can console him completely. Sometimes the grace of
God may even give a permanent cure.
Society is peaceful to a large extent based on the belief in God
and the fear of hell. Now if you remove these concepts,
society will end in chaos. Thus you are finally turning into an
anti social element. If atheism spreads, corruption, killing
each other etc. will go to the climax. All rich people will kill
all the poor people and perhaps you want to remove poverty
in that way! Even rich people and politicians are controlled to
a large extent due to their belief in God and hell. You want to
remove that too and fully support rich people! How can you
say that hell does not exist? I cannot not show hell to you but
can you show the absence of hell by taking Me to the end of
this space? In the case of equal probability, it is better to be
safe and believe in the existence of hell.
You have criticized the golden ornaments and jewels on
statues in the temple. The statue is a representative model of
God to give a strong impression in the minds of ignorant
people. The concept of God has several sociological uses like
giving confidence, peace, happiness, controlling sin etc. God
is the poor man’s heaven, which cannot be purchased by rich
people. You are criticizing the material used in the model,
which is building up this most important concept. A villager
says that the materials used in building experimental models
that convey scientific concepts is a waste and that material can
be used to feed the poor instead! Why do not you criticize the
heavy jewelery of rich ladies and highly expensive functions,
which have no representation of any useful good concept?
Why have you conducted your conference in a highly
expensive five star hotel?
Atheist: Spiritual knowledge uses no reason and perception.
Hence we do not believe in it.
Swami: There are several things, which are beyond reason but
their existence is experienced through inference. This is
accepted even in science due to the inefficiency of measuring
techniques (refer to Heisenberg’s uncertainity principle).
Work is a form of inert energy, which is neither energy nor
the machine and nor the motion. But it is inferred by the final
effect. The limit of space is beyond even imagination and
reason. Life comes from food (matter) and matter comes from
energy. Energy has no cause. Do you not believe in the
existence of energy, which has no cause? A boy loves a girl
even though she totally rejects him. This is a factual case even
though reason does not exist in it. If love is the reason, then
the reason of such love is absent and the question returns to
the original state. Again love is abstract, which is invisible but
inferred from the above case. All these points are created by
God to give the information about Himself that He is
unimaginable and that His existence is only inferred through
experience. This does not mean that space, love or work
(awareness) are God. They indicate God by giving indirect
information about God.