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I,AND COURT DEPARTMENT OF THE TRIAL COURT MISC. CASE NO. 254067
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PROCEEDINGS COURT CLERK: Wednesday, November lOth, 2010, miscellaneous case number 254067, The
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Marina, Incorporated. THE COURT: Good moming. MR. BRENNAN: Good moming, Your Honor. THE COURT: Are you going to stopbringing
up this rainy weather one day?
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THECOURT: Yes.
11/10i10 I Q Well, you say, "one of the buildings." Is that one 2 ofthose buildings either 3, 4 or 5, sir? 3 A Yes, it is. 4 Q Once again, these photographs that we've been going 5 through, they were all taken when, sir? 6 A Within this past month. 7 Q So,onceagain,itwould 8 A In the last thirty days. 9 Q - havebeen October, approximately, of 2010? l0 A Thatiscorrect. I I Q And the next photograph, photograph - strike that. 12 I mean, we're still on BB. Obviously, the boat 13 thafs depicted in BB, that's located on the Marina's 14 property? 15 A Theboats? 16 Q Yes,theboatthafs depicted there. And that'spart 17 ofthe winter storage? 18 A Thatiscorrect. 19 Q AndCC,whatdoes thatdepict? 20 A Thafs looking from the south, north, that's behind 21 building 3. 22 Q This is after that excavation, and construction of 23 that retaining wall was done in 2009; correct? 24 A That's conect. Ifyou see the lighterareaofthe
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Isee. Andtheerosion I see. And to the left there are a few boats, and
these, once again, these are winter storage boats?
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second - that boat hadn't moved al'l summer. That And the other boats depicted in the photograph, are
they, what do you understand the reason -- there are
storage boats located on the Marina property out
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13 A Right. 14 Q And in DD, what does that depict, sir? 15 A That's actually the south end where the wall
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intotheareawheretheyopeneduparoadway. You
can see where the fence actually towards the left, then makes a somewhat 90 degree tum heading towards
Club Street.
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locationofthatstonewall,sir, does
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THE COURT: I'm sorry. I didn't hear that. MR. SEIGENBERG: Surely. I asked him
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they excavated. Sir, you've bean on the board since 2005, as you've already testified
managers
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Well, it inhudes on our property from where it tums back to a point, and that point isnt actually
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down because it's indicated by a marker that is basically where the fence post and the property come
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8 A Notatall. We weren'teven asked forpermission. 9 Q And sir, let's focus on particularly the recent
expansionthafsoccurredin2003and2009. What impact, ifany, has that had on The l-anding property? It's opened up, firstofall, an exitthatwasn't therebefore. The Borden LightMarinahas notput
And photograph DD, that includes - that shows the southerly end ofthe concrete blockwall that was constructed in 2009: correct?
Thatiscorrect. Now sir, the area of the wall along The tanding's
property as it adjoins the Marina's properry, what is
the length
Approximately600/620feet.
No, no, sir, the whole length of the wall.
Approximately 1800 feet. And the concrete wall that was constructed in 2009
approximately how many linear feet is that? You mean How many feet in length?
A 13 14 evan in a stop sign or a leld sign, and people l5 comingupoutofthatareajustplowinto -don't 16 loolg they just come into Club Street and, you know, 17 if somebody was coming the other way, we could have 18 anaccident. Therewasnoplantodoanytraffic 19 control. We'vegotnoise;we'vegotdust. MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, objection to any 20 2l nuisance testimony because there's no nuisance action 22 in this case. 23 THE COURT: I aeree. Strike that 24 testimony.
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3 thatwas consFucted in 2009 encornpasses 4 approximately a third of the total wall length; 5 correct? 6 A That's correct. 7 Q And then photograph EE, sir? 8 A That depicts the -whafs left ofaparking lotthat we had use of. 9 10 Q The nextphotograph,sir, FF, thatwasn'ttaken in II 2010: correct? 12 A No. Thatwas taken somewhere inAugustof 2007. 13 Q What does that show, sir? 14 A It shows part of the Braga Bridge and the Marina l5 before the expansion. 16 Q And that photograph GG, sir? When was that 17 photograph taken? 18 A Again, thatwas taken around Augustof2007, and l9 that's how the Marina looked in the year of August,
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21 Q And I think the last photograph, photograph HH. 22 A Thafs a picture ofwhat the parking lot looked prior
to Borden Light Marina's excavation, and it shows the rocks that were in place, blocking the area before
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of the question of the structure of the wall. ht your opinion, sir, in your understanding,
has this
THECOURT: Sustained.
MR. SEIGENBERG: I have nothing fuither.
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Now, in 2006, when you signed the settlement agreement MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, may I check my file just to see the exhibit number on that I'm referring it to, but I have referred to the exhibit
number.
computer field, and not anything beyond that. So, itwouldbe strike that.
fairto saythatyou'vebeen -
Afteryou graduated, did you go into the businessworldandworkfor -haveacareer? rdid. Andthatcareerwasin whatfreld?
Warehouse management, accounting. The problem is,
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corporations. To answer the question, basically mostly in the finance field. So,you'vebeen -youwereinthebusinessworld with
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I Q Did you ever own a troat or a )acht? 2.{ No. 3 Q Now, you moved into The tanding at South Park, if I 4 recall correctly, in 1998; is thatconect? 5 A Approximately, yes. 6 Q You became a member of the board of managers in 2005? 7 A That's correct. 8 Q Your testimony is that prior to 2005, you were not 9 aware ofany pending litigation between The tanding l0 at South Park and the Marina? I I A That is correct. 12 Q You leamed about the fact that there was something 13 pending in 2005 when you became a member ofthe board 14 ofmanagers? 15 A If that's when the agreement was put together, then I 16 would sayyes. 17 Q Well, the agreement dated March 16th of 2006. 18 A So that's when Ireally gotto know that there was 19 something. 20 Q b the course of yourexperiance in thebusiness 21 world, did you have an opportunity to employ or 22 engage the services ofother professionals, be it an 23 attomey, for example? 24 A Yes.
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3 A That's correct. 4 Q And as a fiduciary for the other - how many units 5 are there in The l-andine? 6 A One hundred forty. 7 Q One hundred forty. So, as a fiduciary for the other I 139 unit owners, it's your testimony you took no 9 action to determine what that litigation was about; l0 is that correct? ll A Atthatpoint,we were informedbyBLM that -and 12 Mr. Lund that it was strictly something that they had 13 won. Ifwecontinuedbeyondthatpoint,andwe 14 didn't come to some kind of ageement, they would 15 reopen the litigation. At that point in time there 16 was no course for us to really look at it. We l7 assumed it was going to b taken care of, and we've l8 always heard that it was dormant. And, no, we didn't 19 look at it. 20 Q Andyou agreethattheboard ofmanagers was 2l represanted by counsel in the preparation ofthis 22 agreement? 23 A Onlyin thepreparation ofthis. 24 Q Of the settlement agreement?
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MR. SEIGENBERG: Thank you. Now, since you've become a member of the board of managers in 2005, subsequent to your appointment or
election to that position, did you observe any construction activity by Bordn Light Marina on the retaining wall?
Yes.
So, you had access to counsel on that matter, had you chosen to explore it. Yes. So you signed asettlementagreernentwithout
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But you didn't inquire?
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of the board?
Now, it's also your testimony, if I understand it correctly, that you were unaware of the preliminary injunction that issued in this court in May of 2000 until Attomey Watsky pointed that out to you in the fall of2009. Do Irecall thatcorrectly?
That is conect. Since 1998, when you became an owner at The tanding
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Observing the wall construction for the first time in 2008 as a member ofthe board ofmanagers, what, anything, did you do next after making that observation? As a member ofthe board, the board discussed about
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-lothe situation was. We knew there was an agreement in place. Andaslsaidinmytestimonybefore,there was probably premature building of the
at South Park, is it fair to say that you obsewed construction activities at different times by Bordan
wall. What we of
Could you explain "somewhat" for me? I live there. I didn't spend - mostly it was where
we ate, slept and went to work because I don't have a view
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going up was not what the board expected; is that correct?
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Thafscorrect.
What, that? We started to investigate. As aboard representing owners, we tried to be conservative, especially where there are agrements in place. It wasn't like we were going to run down and start screaming and
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Iheard pounding of sheet going in, so at thatpoint I looked and saw them putting in sheathing.
Do you recall when thatwas?
Not exactly. After you obsewed that activity, what, if anything, did you do? MR. SEIGENBERG: Objection, Your Honor.
The court has appropriately pointed out to me that
totally informed of what really was. During thatoneyearwhen youwere doing your
investigation, that would take you into 2009; correct? That is correct.
he's -it'sreallyanissueashimasaboard
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Borden Light Marina to add a row ofblocks to any other area ofthe retainine wall?
Yes. Was there a discussion about the cost to do that? Yes.
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I-anding at South Park to the Marina of October 2nd, 2008. Yes, I'm aware of it. You're aware of that letter?
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I can truthfully say that I was not totally involved
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I was. What was the outcome as to who was going to pay for the additional blocks?
Itneverwasreallysettled.
Wtere in the retaining wall did you want to add the
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STENOGRAPHER: Canyou STENOGRAPHER: You need to speak up or sit a little closer to the mic. THE WITNESS: Okay. Sorry. STENOGRAPHER: Thankvou.
And in fact THE COURT: Excuse me. Do you need water? THE WITNESS: No, Im okay.
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THECOURT: Okay. And in fact, exhibitnumber38 is athankyou to Bordan Light Marina for adding a row ofblocks to
section ofthe wall, and thereby increasing the height; is that correct?
Yes.
This letter issued then during the time you were doing your investigation into the activigr on the
wall; correct?
Yes.
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Thedeteriorationofit. And itwas not an objection to the factthat there was a fence within any portion of the twenty foot
easement is that correct?
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Iamnow,yes. And that - well, okay. l-et me ask you, when did you
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has any knowledge of, you know, that there were
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will be testimony
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question. I'm sure there's going to be testimony from the Lunds about this issue, but I would suggest
that our position is that these documents are clear, unequivocal documents for the court to interpret according to their common language. And based on the circumstances that existed, which you've already heard some description ofhow there was the development ofthe two properties and so on, that's
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boats stored within the twenty foot easement? First, the residents or owners'view is being
11/10/10 I A I think my testimony stands, yes. 2 Q And you also testified that during that time period 3 you were just trying to live harmoniously with the 4 Marina: correct? 5 A That is correct. 6 Q Now, when you say they do whatever they want to do, I 7 thinkthatwasaquote,areyouawareofany -do 8 you mean by that that they didn't seek permits that 9 were necessary to do the work? 10 A Ithinkitgoesbeyondpermits,butyes ll Q Areyou 12 A -permits,yes, Iwould saytheydidn'tseek 13 permits. 14 Q So, that's part of - their failure to seek permits 15 is part ofthe basis upon which you state they do 16 whatever they want to do? 17 A Thatiscorrect. I 8 Q Are you aware of what permits Borden Light Marina has 19 obtained in the course ofthe development ofthe 20 Marina? 2l A Some of them. 22 Q Are you aware that they have, in fact, received three 23 different licenses from the DEP for Marina purposes 24 since 1988 to t9 -to2010?
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I A I'm not sure I would understand what those permits 2 arc. Andl'mnotsureifthosepermitsareactually 3 permits allowing them to do what they want to do. 4 THE COURT: And I'm not sure it's relevant, 5 quite frankly. 6 MR. BRENNAN: Well, he has testified that 7 partofwhythey -heconside$themtodo whatever 8 they want to do with the Marina, that they haven't 9 got permits. I think it's significant to point out 10 to the witness that they have three chapter 91 licenses and six orders ofconditions. II THE COURT: I don't think it's relevant 12 13 whether he thinks that they do whatever they want to 14 do without permission or not. MR. SEIGENBERG: And also, counsel makes 15 16 misleading argument to the court because those 17 permits didn't permit this work. They have 18 expiration dates. l9 THE COURT: Again, I think this is totally 20 an irrelevant line ofinquiry, and let's move offit. 2l Q Noq you mentioned that in the course of the work 22 that tookplace on the south entrance to the Marina, 23 that the Marina had taken some parking spaces that 24 The Landing at South Park was using; is that conect? -32'
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board of managers, how long the Marina has been in operation? Probably very close to the time that The l"anding at South Park has been there, probably 1987/'88. Since that time, has the Marina expanded? Yes.
That is correct.
ofthe access
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Ibelieveso.
And one is a fifty?
No.
lt'snot?
No. Was it tho understanding of the board of managers in 2005, when you became a member, that the Marina would
expand?
Ibelieveso.
There's a question as to whether
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shouldn't say encroach, includes part ofthat parking Again, I'm not capable of determining what the
easement allows Borden Light Marina to do.
And'06?
Yes.
So, whan you say that the parking spaces were lost,
'07? Yes.
it's fair to say that what the Marina did, they may
have the right to do?
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They may, not definitely they had the right. Or definitely not? Correct. You testified, in one ofthephoto$aphs, youpointed out a tent; is that correct?
That's correct.
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5 Q Noq you reside in building 1; is that correct? 6 A Building 2. 7 Q I'm sorry. Building 2. Where do the other board of
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When was that tent on the Mafina property? That went up for a very short period of time. It's where the pool area is.
Doyourecallwhen thatwas?
It was in October. Do you knowthepurposeofthe tent?
Yes.ldo.
What was it?
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Twodays? - day-by-daycheck.
Three days?
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building 8. And those are the four active members at this time?
Thatiscorrect.
Former member reside in building 3, Mr. Bouffard? Yes.
Mr. Daquay's in 4?
Yes.
In 2005, is it fair to say the Marina was using a portion ofthe twenty foot easement area for boat
storage on the northerly and
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a glossy. It might help you to look at it.
yourpositionoryourtestimonythat
photograph or exhibit number 34-12, you can't determine that that's a roadway; is that correct? That is correct. I'd like to show you exhibit 34-31 and ask you would take a look at that photo. (Witness reviewing photo.) 34-31,2009?
ifyou
I Q Referring to exhibit number 34-10, is that the sloped 2 graded embankment that you've been referring to in 3 this case? 4 A Pretty much. 5 Q When you say, "pretty much," is it an accurate 6 representation ofaportion ofit? 7 A Again, Imlooking ata 1988 photographwhen Iwasn't 8 there. So, Icansaythatlwouldntknowwhatit 9 looked like at that time. Again, I can't tell you 10 what it looked like exactly in 2008 or 2009. 1 1 Q But you do agree that it is the embankment or 12 A Iwouldagreethat 13 Q -whatyourefertoas 14 A - ifs the embankment in 1998 [sic]. ls Q '88. 16 A '88. I'msorry. l7 Q Thankyou. 18 A '88. 19 MR. BRENNAN: That's all I have, Your 20 Honor. 21 THE COURT: Redirect? 22 MR. SEIGENBERG: Yes. olease. ***** 23 ***** 24
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No. You were asked about - I guess you were critiqued
about your work as a board member. Tell us please,
do. And we
meet when there are certain things that need to be discussed, which becomes an executive session, and
a month; correct?
of
11/10/10 I expert, but as a visual look at the top ofthe wall, 2 that does not mesh evenly, cleanly. 3 Q So,just to moveus along, you as aboard member are 4 concemed about the construction ofthe wall: 5 correct? 6 A Yes. 7 Q what about the type of the wall? 8 A lt'saconcreteblockwall. 9 Q As a board member, do you have any concems regarding 10 that? 1l A Yes. 12 Q Now, you were shown exhibit 38, which is a letter 13 dated October 2nd,2008, where there was the 14 increased height being added to the wall. It was 15 inoeased height added to the wall. Remember that 16 letter? 17 A Yes. 18 Q Nowsir, did theboard - this letterwas written 19 what, aft - strike that. 20 Were there discussions between the board. 2l or members of the board, and Borden Light Marina 22 about adding another course to the wall? 23 A There was. 24 Q Did these discussions occur before or after the wall
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concerns about the
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of
ofthe concerns
that the board and you have relative to the wall that Up the top of the wall at this point, you've got blocks that have definite separation between what should bejoints where they don't even lock in
together, and probably should. Again, not being an
9 Q So, the board had - after the wall was constructed, l0 the board had discussions with Borden Light Marina; II correct? 12 A Correct. 13 Q Whydid theboard atThe landingrequestanother 14 course ofconcrete block on that wall? 15 A Because they left us with a slope that was about like 16 this, which was unsafe (indicating). 17 Q Andbyasking forthatcourseof -additional 18 course, sir, was it the board's view that the wal'l 19 was acceptable to the board? 20 A After - I'm not quite sure. 2l Q You asked forthecourse,butby gettingthatone 22 additionalcourseofconcreteblock didthatmake 2l the wall acceptable to the board ofmanagers? 24 A Atthatmoment,yes.
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THECOURT: Yes.
What do you mean by your answer, "yes," sir? It had become safe for people to be able to walk
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Yeah.
Now, you had this discussion about the parking spaces in the guest parking area being
eliminated? Yes.
And
pdorto -as
ofthat
truly -
This is something that the court would have to Prior to the excavation of that parking lot, were you
aware
And absent this easement issue, the area that was excavated, it is your understanding that that was the
property ofThe landing?
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this October 2nd, 2008 letter, what wall were you referring to?
THE COURT: Counsel. what is the relevance ofthisparkingarea. Isthisparkingareawithin any ofthe easement areas that we're talking about? MR. BRENNAN: I don't believe it is. THE COURT: We have spent a tremendous amount of time talking about that. I unde$tand the
issue and I think we can move on from there. Okay?
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it.
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Whatwasthat? Thatwas towards the -thatwas thecurentconcrete block wall in 2008/2009. They added looking at where they added
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MR. SEIGENBERG: Your Honor, while the witness is looking at that document, I will be making objection to any line ofinquiry on this, because
this is obviously - where are we? This is recross. lt's not gerrnane or relevant, and it's not related at all to what I brought up in redirect. THE COURT: question.
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officeandcorporatecounsel.
Ididnot. Ihavea
feeling it will be cleared up after the defendanfs case. Ijustreservetherighttopotentiallybring that issue to the court's attention
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I need to.
a subpoena served
wall; is thatcorrect?
THECOURT: Okay.
MR. SEIGENBERG: There is
on this individual.
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Correct.
Based on the document that you were minutes
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a
MR. SEIGENBERG: Thank you, Your Honor. THE COURT: - at the rate wete going. Okay. Now, lm assuming you're not going to do so, you have nothing further other than that? MR. SEIGENBERG: That would be the
board meeting
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Thewall, the adding ofblocks to the wall,justwhat
the minutes said.
THE COURT: Heads up, I'd like to take a breakabout 10:30. Andwe'lljusttakeatenminute
Therewasadiscussion
On that date.
ofit.
Butitgoes furtherthanthat.
You testified a moment ago that you asked for some blocks to be added because the slope at the top was too steep.
MR. BRENNAN: The plaintiffhas rested. I would ask the court to entertain finding against the plaintiffon
hespass and violation
a a motion to direct a
portion of ifs
complaint. Andthatportionbeingincount
I,a
Notmyself,personally, theboard did. The board. Before the wall went up, what was the
slope
ofvisual easement by way of the construction oftwo buildings that the pleadings
allege violate the visual easement. The plaintiffs put in no evidence as to those buildings, where they
are, what their elevations are, and how,
ofthat bank? fm not an engineer, so I can't give you that. Wasn't it greater before than after? I don't lmow. Again, Im not an engineer. MR. BRENNAN: I have no further questions,
YourHonor.
ifany, they
Iflrecall
correctly, there
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Iam.
Inwhatcapacity?
I am a partner in Mount Hope Engineering. Where is that located?
For how long have you been - did you say, "co-owned?" Co-owned.
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numbertwo,thatthebuildingsareonlot3.
offered no evidence.
They,ve
How long have you owned Mount Hope Engineering? Since 1992. Could you tell me, or explain to the court the nature
verdict on this is solely in relation to the buildings? MR. BRENNAN: That's correct.
THE COURT: Not the equipment?
MR.BRENNAN: No. THE COURT: Okay. I will let you know after this afternoon. I'11 take it under advisement. MR.BRENNAN: YourHonor.mvfirstwitness will be James Hall. THECOURT: Okay. Mr. Hall. MR. BRENNAN: Please state your name.
THE WITNESS: James Hall.
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all the engineering associated with such. Do you surveyproperty lines in the course ofthat
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Now, could you tell me when you first started working in the angineering field?
I started in 1982.
THECOURT: I'msorry. MR. BRENNAN: Has the witness been swom? THECOURT: Notyet. Ijustwaswaiting for everyone to settle down. Are we all set now'?
Okay.
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hwhatcapacity? Iwas adesigneruntil about 1986, acivilengineer from'86 to '92, at which time we started the firm.
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Directing your attention to your education, you have high school education?
Ido.
Where was that? Joseph Case High School.
And
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Pretty much anyhing commercially. If a bank - we do a lot ofwork with banks, siting new offices or new headquarters. We do residential development. We
would do - we could do condominium developmer,ts. And it's been a mix over the years, whether it's retail, commocial, residenfial.
As theowner -areyou a fiftypercentownerof
Mount Hope?
effort, but -
3 explain the property - which property line? 4 A Well, the one property line, obviously from the high 5 tide mark all the way to the property line on The 6 landing. 7 Q Did you survey the cornmon prcperty line between The 8 Landing at South Park and the Marina? 9 A Thatwassurveyed. Iwasactuallypartofthecrew, l0 obviouslyourR[S,andyouknow,chiefofparty. I II was product manager. So, there was various hands in 12 the mix there on thatparticularproject. 13 Q lunderstand. 14 MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, may I mark this 15 particular plan for identification? 16 THE COURT: What is this plan? I'm sorry, 17 I can'tread the 18 MR. BRENNAN: Well, actually the plan 19 I'11 withdraw that request -20 THECOURT: Okay. 2l MR. BRENNAN: - Your Honor, because I am 22 going to offer it as evidence. 23 THE COURT: All right. 24 Q Mr. Hall, you mentioned that you participated in a
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Id like to
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Who is the individual you worked with? It was Donald MacNeill.
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file. I don't think it's really - I mean, let'sjustgettherefast. Allright. MR. BRENNAN: I am, except for the fact MR. SEIGENBERG: Here's the problem, and I know it's - he didn't - this is not his survey
plan.
Did you know Mr. MacNeill prior to 1999? Yeah. I've actually worked with him since 1989. When you say you worked with him, do you mean doing
survey work? Right.
around.
it
file.
Whether he can
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I did. Was a copy of this plan in your file?
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MR BRENNAN:
Ido.
Explain to the court the business practice maintaining your records.
We basically, in our particular business, keep all records, because a lot oftimes projects
it.
I have a
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gentleman on the witness stand who is in the field. I have the owner ofthe business that keeps the records, and it certainly is a record. A record
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THE COURT: I think these are files kept in theordinarycourseofbusiness. Ithinkwe've established that. And ifthis was in the file for
this project number, I think it's sufficiant to say that this is on file with the business and is a
business record that he's responsible can say that
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MR. SEIGENBERG: Objection, Your Honor. I
object to the idea that this is a business record.
H'is basic view, where we're moving with this thing
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MR. SEIGENBERG: It strikes me
as
that's -
ifthatconstitutsabusinessrecord -I'mnot
trying to be confrontational with the court by any
means, but under that interpretation, any document
it in the file, it becomes a business record. That's not the rule. The normal business record is
keep
THE COURT: No, that is not true. MR. SEIGENBERG: I can't think of somethins
that under that - it's basically saying that
a lawyer
A suwey done by somebody else is not a business record, Your Honor. It's a document that's prepared for a client. It's not a business record.
And so, lm trying to
a business record. save time
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I'm saying, Im
a project, a
opinion on
It's a
THE COURT: All right. Do you have an objection to this particularpiece MR. SEIGENBERG: The plan. THE COURT: - of evidence, the plan,
file.
itselfl
Honor. Thisisnodifferentthanthat. THE COURT: I may have missed a question here, or maybe I heard something different. My
understanding is that the suwey was done in connection with the project done by Mount Hope, and that this surveyor basically worked for Mount Hope in
MR. SEIGENBERG: The reason is, if I could just sort of move ahead a little with it?
THECOURT: Yes.
MR. SEIGENBERG: It was done in 1999. We
don't believe it's accurate. We have a document already in evidence, the elevation plan, that has different bounds, and it has a different conclusion
doing the survey for the particular client. MR. SEIGENBERG: I think the testimony was
that Mr. Hall works for
thathewasoutinthefield. Butlthinkiflwas
allowed to voir dire witness, he would indicate that
he wasn't the person who did the actual -
a partner
in Mount Hope,
THE COURT: No, he did not do the actual suwey. I thought I heard that the surveyor worked for Mount Hope Engineering. Am I wrong about that?
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Moving from the left of the plan to the right of the plan, would it be fair to say that the first notation
is an air conditioning pad over the property line, 1.4 feet?
Thafs correct.
Andthesecondnotationiswhat? A conffete step over by .4 feet. Thethirdnotation? Is an airconditioningpad overtry 1.4 feet.
What building are those three encroachments on? That's building
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Do thoseportionsofthosebuildings
infact,
thatplan?
That's true. I'm sorry?
Thatistrue.
(Counsels conferring.) You testified that you have a copy of Mr. McNeill's plan in your files; is that correct?
Ido.
MR. BRENNAN: I have no further questions, Your Honor.
THECOURT: Okay.
MR. SEIGENBERG: If I may, Your Honor. Thankyou. Iflmayapproachthewitness,iflmay? THECOURT: Yes. CROSS EXAMINATION (By Mr. Seigarberg:)
That's marked as exhibit 43, that's stamped by Mr.
11/10i10 I A Mm-hmm. 2 Q I'm afraid to move it. Are you familiar with that 3 plan? What involvement did you have with exhibit 21, 4 the elevation plan? 5 A The elevation plan was produced for The [anding due 6 to an inaccuracy with a FEMA floodline that was 7 recently re-established, I believe, maybe a year or 8 two ago, where The l^anding was contacted by, I 9 believe, their financial institution, or maybe FEMA, 10 andtheywereneverdesignatedinafloodzone. And II now after twenty-some years or so, they were 12 obviously pushed into the flood zone. They contacted 13 us and asked us the process and for some help on 14 really what was going on there. 15 Q As part of the work that was performed in 2009, did 16 you and your firm go out and actually do some l7 add'itional survefng to find out the bounds of the 18 property? 19 A We actually subcontracted S. Roy land Survelng for 20 the bound - you're sort of mixing two things here, I 2l think. You've got the FEMA portion which is an 22 elevation survey. Okay. And then once we got into 23 that, for whatever reason The Ianding also wanted us 24 to put monuments in, establishmonuments, and that
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responsibleforthisprojectbackin 1999;conect?
Correct. And he is the one who drew this plan, not you, sir; correct? No, not true. He was the overseeing
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Butthepreparationbetweenthe -youknow,if youte refening to the CAD work, the field worlg and
everything leading up to it, he didn't do it solely,
Sir, as you indicated, you did some additional work on this site also for The
That's correct.
hnding,
as
well; correct?
to
4 and supervision; is that correct? 5 A No, he's an R[5, and I obviously have to, you know, 6 tell him the scope of work, and then what we're 7 tryrng to achieve as project manager. And then he 8 actually makes the property line determination, 9 obviously according to the Mass. General law. 10 Q And so, those suweying marks were placed on the ground in 2009; correct? iI 12 A I believe so, yeah. 13 Q Andbased on thosemarks, yourofficeprepared 14 exhibit2l; correct? 15 A Conect. I 6 Q Exhibit 21 also showed buildings l0 and I 1; correct? 17 A Yeah. 18 Q Based on the survey thatwas done in 2009, this 19 survey plan did not show any encroachments of 20 building 10 or ll, does it, sir? 21 A It's not the intention of the plan. 22 Q But it doesn't show it, does it? 23 A No. it does not. 24 Q The elevation plan also shows the elevation to mean
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Thatwouldbetrue.
And in fact, to move this thing along, looking to
this entire wall, it appears that every elevation that's noted as the top of the wall exceeds 19 MSL; isn't that correct. sir?
Thatistrue.
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-socialized,no. Okay. Justabusinessrelationship? Yeah, ifs business. Actually, with him and The
l-anding, it'sjust besn basically professional, so...
So, the top of the wall here on the southerly end,
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That's one of many things we did, yeah. Was that a successful amendment? Yes, it was actually recently. What else have you been retained by The tanding to do?
I would say the three tasks are the FEMA Flood
you determined that top of the wall was over 24.09 Okay.
-meansealevel;correct?
That's correct.
And thatwall - firstof all, that is nota straight line for that wall, is it?
No,no.
Describe that wall with the I believe, you know,
Marina, it obviouslyjogs back and forth from the From the wall itself?
The whole wall, yeah, up and down, back and forth.
Towards building 4, you can see that thafs elevation 22.06; conect, sir? Can you see that al1 right?
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11/10/10 I Q Correct. 2 A No, I don't believe so. 3 Q So, in fact, what your company did is, added 4 permanort monumentation, drill holes along various 5 points ofthe property line; correct, sir? 6 A Yeah, The l-anding contracted us to put monumants with 7 drill holes every 200 feet or on change ofdirection. 8 Q And sir, didn't the property line change based on the 9 more recent monumentation that was done in 2009? 10 A Icouldn'ttellyou. 11 Q You couldn't tell us? 12 A No. Ididn'tactuallydothecalculations. So,if 13 the monuments reflect a slight change from'99 to 14 2009,youknow, that'snotwhat -wewerejusthired 15 to put the monuments in. So, it was, again, based 16 offthe tracks. 17 Q And cercainly as we alreadywentthrough, the 18 elevationplandoesn'tshow -elevationplanthat 19 was done in 2009, that doesn't show any 20 encroachmentsicorrect? 21 A No. we weren't hired to do that. 22 Q Sir, the question, does not show any encroachments? 23 A Right. 24 Q And to the contrary, what it shows is no
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A Actually,'99. I 1 Q '99, thank you. In 1999, there was no permanent 12 monumentation on the ground when the survey was done; 13 conect? 14 A Not between the - there was a monument near 15 building I where that wall's falling over there. 16 Thatmonument,Ibelieve,waspresent. Therewas l'l also monumentation out on Almond Sheet. And the l8 records I reviewed before coming up here revealed 19 that the monumentation that we found to derive 20 everything came offthe railroad. 21 Q Okay. Buttherewerenoperrnanentdrillholes as 22 were inserted in 2009; correct? 23 A No. You mean between - are you talking between The 24 tanding and the Marina?
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That's correct.
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that was complekd, they hired us to do a monument installation, where there's no plan. There was no plan created
Agreed. Butbothweredonein2009. lt's probablytrue, butnotin the same survey, not in the same window of time. Butnonetheless,theyweretransposedonthesame
plan, the elevation plan. No, they were not. That's
was created to send to
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11/10/10 1 and building 11. 2 MR. SEIGENBERG: May I approach and just 3 put it directly in front of the witness, Your Honor? 4 THECOURT: Yes,youmay. 5 MR. SEIGENBERG: Thankyou. 6 Q You locatebuilding l0 and building 11 on the 7 elevation plan, do you not, sir. 8 A That depiction on that flood plan is a more gateric 9 building to show elevation. Ifs not an encroachment l0 plan or a survey plan to try to depict, because quite 11 honestly, I don't think FEMA would really care about 12 encroachments. It's an elevationplan to showgrades 13 around the building, first floor, relative to flood 14 plain. 15 Q I-et me try a differort (way. You're not saying these 16 buildings are placed on this plan arbitrarily, are 17 you? I 8 A No, they're not arbitrarily, but the detail that was 19 sent to FEMA is not a detailed site plan. [t's a 20 site plan to show that when they want to insure each 2l one of those buildings, they need the data on the 22 buildingtoshowelevation. Andthat'sit. That's 23 what the task was. The task wasn't about 24 encroachments at that time.
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direction. The measurements of this plan all come from the northerly direction. The other thing that is significant, Your Honor, is these buildings are
depicted on this plan, exhibit - the elevation plan, 2 I . And they're relative to the property line, which
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like the opportunity just to spend a minute with counsel and Your Honor, and just superimpose those
two plans that were the subject matter of the testimony, so the court can get a close look at these two plans and compare.
an
opportunity. Imayhaveyoucomebackinfororal argument after you've Iiled your memorunda. So' you
know, there will be more opportunity to rwiew these
things,butifyoucan enlightenmetogetheron MR. SEIGENBERG: I appreciate that. THE COURT: - the differences in those
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I A Michael Lund, 700 Shore Drive, Unit 316. Q Unit what? You're going to have to speak up so we 3 can4 A 316. 5 Q Is that at The tanding at South Park? 6 A lt's at The I-anding at South Park. 7 Q How many units do you own at The landing? 8 A Two. 9 Q What are the numbers? l0 A Unit 808 and unit 316. 11 Q Now, Mr. Lund, are you enPloYed? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Bywhom? 14 A Borden LightMarina, lncorporated. 15 Q Inwhatcapacitl4 16 A I serve as the president. I 7 Q For how long have you been employed by Borden Light? I 8 A Probably since I was fifteen years old/sixteen years 19 old. 20 Q Howoldareyounow? 2l A Thirty-seven. 22 Q Were you familiar with the property that - or are 23 you familiar with the property, and were you familiar 24 with it in 1986 that is now the Borden Light Marina
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of the property. Did your father purchase the property with another individual?
Correct. Who was that?
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pilings that some people lived in; some were abandoned. And then as you - ifyou could walk
along the water and you went down the southerly end by Kennedy Park and King Phillip Boathouse, there
were probably another thirteen or fourteen houses
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Howwasthataccomplished?
Well, some people bumed them, but for the most part
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A Yes. 12 Q Doyouknowthoseindividuals inthatpicture? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Do yourecatl when thatpicturewas taken? 15 A Thatwas taken, I'm going to sayprobably'88, late 16 '87,'88. 17 Q Atwhattypeofevent? 18 A Itwasata - Ibelievethatwas ataboatshow. 19 Q Was The l,anding at South Park marketed at that event? 20 A Yes. 2l Q Isthatdepictedinthispicture? 22 A Yes. 23 Q Now, looking at that picture, do you see a reference 24 to Borden Light Marina on the right?
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picture where
Directing your attention to the bottom halfofthat itjust shows, you know, the disturbed
material and the water.
Mm-hmm.
What is there now?
Now there is
boatrepair and storage. There is a mechanic's shed area. There is boardwalk. There is the piers
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Yes. the left ofthe building that's being constructed, there's an embankment there: is that correct?
Can you orientate the court as to where that might be along the property line between Borden Light Marina
and The l-anding?
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Is that still there?
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that still there?
Stone pier's stil'l there.
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3 photo looking south, was a segmorted block wall. 4 Q You mentioned - how much - strike that. 5 Have retaining walls been built along the 6 common property line between Borden Light Marina and ? The hnding? 8 A They've been on the very first chapter 9l license 9 from day one. l0 MR. SEIGENBERG: Objection, Your Honor. 11 A And they've been built 12 MR. SEIGENBERG: It speaks for itself, Your 13 Honor. 14 THE COURT: Answer the question. The 15 wihess should answer the question directly. 16 Q The question, Mr. Lund, is has a retaining wall been 17 built along the common property line benveen Borden 18 Light Marina and The Landing at South Park? l9 A Yes, since day one. 20 Q Now, when, to yourknowledge, did the firstretaining 21 wall - was the firstretaining constructed, and 22 where? 23 A Firstretaining walls were constructed in 1988. The 24 first one was constructed in the middle of the
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property, down towards now which is the second main I 2 access point for the docks. That's basically in the 3 m'iddle of the property. The second retaining wall 4 was constructed at the northerly end ofthe property 5 in front buildings l0 and I l. And then there was a 6 small segmanted block wall that was constructed down, 7 right around building 4, back around that same time 8 ffame. And then there was also a sheet pile wall 9 that was constructed directly in front ofbuilding l0 10 at that same time period. l1 Q Haveyou described all oftheretaining walls that 12 had beenbuilt? 13 A You mean in terms of the t)ryes of construction or 14 Q Types ofconstruction and walls. 15 A Yeah. Thosewere theareas ofthe wallsbuiltat 16 that time. 17 Q So, does thatdescription take you fromalong the 18 entire common property line of the Marina and The 19 landing? 20 A Today? 21 Q Yes. 22 A There's an assortment of block wall, sheathing wall 2J and poured wall thatruns along the entireproperty 24 line.
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Looking at exhibit number 34-7, inthe upper right-hand corner you see some automobiles or trucks
parked there? Correct.
Is that looking in a southerly direction?
Correct.
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Thereabouts. When was the last wall conpleted?
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Now, looking at the next exhibit, 34-7, is it fair to
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the "for sale" sign is, and the boathouse is right
abouthere(indicating)? Now,you mentioned thatyoucould access fromthe southern end to a point, and then you'd encounter
construction debris?
3 4 the driveway you were referring to? 5 6 A Yes. 7 Q Directing your attention to the area that's to the 8 left ofthat driveway, is it fair to say that was a 9 bank that went up towards The tanding? 10 A Correct. 11 Q Towardsthefence? 12 A Correct. 13 Q Is that embankment still there? 14 A No. 15 Q Could you tell the court how it's changed from what's 16 shown in this photograph? I 7 A Over the years we excavated dirt out of it for either 18 fill on the road as we expanded, and then in 2008 we 19 constructed the wall to go to clean up the entrance 20 down the south end, come around the comer, and heading towards building 3 with the segmented block 2l 22 wall. 23 Q Directing your attention to the area that you 24 excavated, what do you use that area for? -l14NOTES:
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I think was '07 or '08. But years before that, the retaining wall was built to the left down to building 7.
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It's both buildings, they're connected.
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11/10/10 I Q I'm asking you to identi! the buildings, starting 2 with the pool, not with the extreme left of the photograph. 3 4 A So, with the swimming pool to the right is building 7 which has the poured concrete wall that got put in in 5 6 '87 that you saw in the earlier photos. The next 7 building - then you next have building 6, where you 8 have a sheet pile wall, which is the area that you 9 saw in the two earlier exhibits. Then it runs along andyou'vegot -youseetheone-halfofbuilding5. l0 I I Q Directing your attention to the next exhibit, 12 number 26, which is also an aedal photograph. 13 A Correct. 14 Q Does that show the entire common propefiy line 15 between Borden Light Marina and The [anding at South 16 Park? 17 A Yes. 18 Q Justdirectyowattention, ifyou would, to the 19 middle of the photo$aph on the lower half. There 20 appears to be aparking lot there. 2l A Yes, in the Marina. 22 Q l,eft of the sheet metal building? 23 A Yes. 24 Q Have you been here all week, and have you heard the
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sheathing wall ends, right around where the paved
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3 embankment with vegetation? 4 A Conect. 5 Q Hasthatbeen altered sincethisphotographvias 6 taken? 7 A Yes. 8 Q In what manner? 9 A We took away the remainder of the bank and stabilized l0 it with a segmo,ted concrete block wall that ran from II the point that you see, basically down to where the 12 boats are stored. 13 Q Thisphotograph was taken in 2008; correct? 14 A I think so. I think it's late 2008, well, late in 15 the season. 16 Q Okay. Based on thispicturethen, the areathatyou l7 described where the segmented block wall is built, it 18 would have been built in 2008? 19 A Itwouldeitherbe2007or2008. Idon't 20 Q Directingyourattention to exhibit34-31, doyou 21 recognize what's shown in that photograph? 22 A Yes. 23 Q There are some buildings in the backgound of the 24 photo$aph. Do you - can you orientate the court as
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Do you know what work was being done in that photograph, and whan? That is somewhere in the oeriod of late '86/'87. in that time ffameWhere that piece of construction equipment is, is that now where The landing buildings are?
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Is that where Marina roadway is?
Yeah. The lower grade is where the Marina roadway and parking lot are.
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winterize them, store them for the winter. And subsequently when that's done, we work on the
facility, winterize the docks, the clubhouses, the little restaurant/bar that we have. In the fall, we sign up our seasonal
customers for the following surnmer. Then usually
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takes us until the and ofFebruary, and then
to the marina on the southerly end was carved out. Prior to undertaking that work, was there a driveway or roadway or access point there?
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What did you do to that driveway? We widened it, cleaned it up, moved dirt to get down to the lower grade.
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A Two access easements. l1 Q Can you tell me what your understanding of those two 12 easements are? I 3 A They are easements over The landing at South Park's 14 propertyto gain access into the Marinaproperty. 5 Q Looking at exhibit 34-32, would the King Phillip Boat 16 Club be to the right? 17 A Exactly. It's totheright-handsideofthe 18 arborvitae trees. 19 Q Areyoulooking at -is thatapictureof 20 building 3? 21 A No. That is - it's either building I or building 2 22 setbackaway. Building 1. 23 Q Thankyou. Directing yourattention to 24 exhibit 34-41, do you see that piece ofconstruction
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boats grew and shapes changed, we installed a marine travel lift, which is a straddle hoist crane. The
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I Q Is it fair to say you could park it anywhere you 2 choose on any given night on the Marina property? 3 A lt's very - you could park it anywhere you wanted. 4 We predominantly try and park it right next to the 5 ramp - to the piers because you always get an 6 emergency in the middle of the night. 7 Q You mean, to remove a boat? 8 A Yeah, to remove a boat if it's sinking or in 9 distress, or something. 10 Q Now, you testified thatyou were -had been around 11 the Marina since you were thirteen years old. So, do 12 you have a recollection ofthe Marina operations over l3 the last twenty-two years? 14 A Yes. 15 Q Can you tell me - describe the Marina when it first 16 started? 17 A When it first started we had main docks A, B and D 18 dock,halfofDdock. Wehadaboutseventyorso 19 slips outofthe 410, and then subsequentlytheyhac 20 summer slips. We just had one club house, a little 21 grass area. That winter we hauled the boats, began 22 servicing them. There were probably twenty-f1ve or 23 so boats stored on land. The following year we added 24 C dock. The following year we added fingers on
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3 meeting tookplace? 4 A Itwas before the fourth ofJulv. and Idon't knowif 5 it was '08 or'09. 6 Q Do you recall the testimony being it was a Memorial 7 Dayweekend? 8 A I would think it would be around there, but I mean, 9 Memorial Day weekend I'm pretty hartl pressed, running 10 around. I 1 Q Did you, in fact, grant their request and move that 12 boat for them? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Otherthan thatone request, whether itbe in the 15 summer of '08 or the spring of '08 or the spring of 16 '09, whatever time it was, other than that request to 17 move that boat, prior to June of2010, had you been I8 asked to move any boats from storage on The t-anding? 19 A No. 20 Q Never? 2l A Never. 22 Q Notone. 23 A They -no. 24 Q There was some testimony that one of the board of
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11/10/10 I conditions had expired. We had to renew them, to 2 keep growing. We've had, I think, two other 3 amendments to our chaptff 9l license to put in the 4 travel lift, to put in the boardwalk. And in the 5 last one that we had in '02, we actually cut down on 6 the slips from 400 down to 300. 7 Q To your knowledge, Mr. Lund, has The l:nding at South 8 Park been active in any of the process of you 9 obtaining your various permits? l0 A Originallythey -itwasjust -itwasdonein 11 concertwiththedeveloper. Idon'tknowifthe 12 association had takar place yet. Their most active 13 participation to this date was back in the late'90s 14 when they appealed the local order ofconditions to I5 continue construction. We got a superseding order of 16 conditions. Theyhadappealedthat. Theyappealed l7 to the state, as well. Then subsequentlythose 18 appeals were dropped, orders were issued, licenses 19 were issued, and I believe as an association, up 20 until the most recent conservation filing and 2l chapter 9l filing, there hasn't been any contesting 22 ofthose licenses or permits. 23 Q Without getting into the substance of the permit, 24 what is the most recent chaptr 91 license that's
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9 input on rnatters such as public access and others. l0 Q When you did the alterations to the access road at I1 the southern end ofthe property, did you petition 12 the local conservation commission? 13 A h 2008, wewere issued an order ofconditions to 14 complete the roadway, in fact, pave it and install l5 drainage all the way out the southerly entrance, but 16 that wasn't contested. 17 Q Was that 2008 or 2009? 18 A I might have - I think it started in '08, and I 19 think it was issued in early'09. I think we also 20 filed at that time a stormwater runoffplan with that 2l order. 22 MR. BRENNAN: Thank you. I have no further 23 questions, Your Honor. 24 THECOURT: Cross exam?
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11/10/10 I buildings 3 to 5, that all occurred in 2009; correct, 2 sir? 3 A Correct. 4 Q And this letter has nothing to do with the work that 5 was done in 2009: correct? 6 A Correct. 7 Q During your direct examination you talked about part 8 of the operation of the Marina is to store boats over 9 the winter: correct? 10 A Correct. 11 Q And once again,justso I'mclear, thewinter 12 storage, that operation, starts in what, October? Is 13 thatapproximatelycorrect? 14 A Some of the boats start early October if they're 15 owned by snowbirds, yes. I 6 Q And the storage of the boats requires the boats to be 17 taken out ofthe water: correct? 18 A Correct. 19 Q Cleaned off; correct? 20 A Correct. 2l Q And eventually placed somewhere within the Marina 22 property; correct? 23 A They're 24 Q For storage.
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I A Yeah. Theyte basically placed everywhere, with the exception ofprobably the driveway. 2 3 Q And that storage, everywhere but where? 4 A He tries just about everywhere but where the driveway 5 is. 6 Q So, you put the boats wherever you have available 7 room? 8 A Well, you leave the driveway open and then you put 9 them on either side ofthe driveway. l0 Q The areas whereyou store theboats includes the II boardwalk area that you constructed; correct? 12 A Conect. I 3 Q Now, this operation goes from early October, that is 14 the storage operation that is hauling the boats out, 15 placing for winter storage, until what date, 16 December? 17 A The activity of hauling them? 18 Q Right. 19 A td say October to December. 20 Q So, approximately a three month period of time; 2l correct? 22 A Correct. 23 Q During thatperiod oftime,you indicated thatyou 24 purchased a new piece ofequipment to assist in this
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3 Now, there's no question, sir, that that 4 lift that you utilize, that would block a view, would 5 it not, of Mount Hope Bay? 6 A Yeah. I would say - I would disagree. 7 Q You would not a$ee with that? 8A No. 9 Q Okay. And the boats that are stored that exceed l0 twenty feet, wouldn't they block the views of The ll [anding, sir? l2 A Boals aren't structures. 13 Q That's not my question. 14 My question is, wouldn't the boats block l5 the view of Mount Hope Bay for people at The landing? 16 A I think the boats are part of the view of Mount Hope 17 Bay. 18 Q I1l try one more time. 19 MR. SEIGENBERG: Your Honor, can I have a 20 direct answer to the question? I think it was a 21 fairly direct question. 22 THE COURT: Please answer "yes" or "no" to 23 "yes" or "no" questions. 24 A No, I don't think they block the view of Mount Hope
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of that wall and - all of the wall. of the walls, right- Now sir, in this case, you're aware that the court issued a preliminary injunction; correct?
Yes, Im aware of that. Sir, can you tum to exhibit 15? Doyou havethatin
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10 maybe, on the plan. I I Q I1l be happy to do that. 12 MR. SEIGENBERG: If I may, Your Honor? 13 THECOURT: Yes. 14 Q First of all, where the high-rise was to be located 15 is somewhere over here, sir? 16 A Correct. Right up againstthatcomerofthe 17 retaining wall. 18 Q Right off of Almond Street; conect? 19 A Justtotherightofbuilding 11. 20 Q And the maintenance shed, that's located somewhere 21 over here, too, sir? 22 A, A little further down; correct. 23 Q Overhere? 24 A No, further north.
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frontofyou?
Yes.
That's the preliminary injunction that was issued by this court on May 23rd,2000; correct?
Yes.
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Further north towards Almond Street once again? Yeah, but -- very close to me, in that direction; correct, yes.
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that has been constructed near the boundary line between the Marina and The landing, was within that twenty foot easement? I'm sorry. I wasn't
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I A Correct. Q And Attomey Brennan, is he someone that you see on a 3 regularbasis - strike that. 4 Is Attomey Brennan someone that you have 5 seen on a regular basis since approximately 2000 to 6 2010? 7A No. 8 Q Is it fair to say that you see Attomey Brennan about 9 once a year, twice a year? 10 A No. I I Q He's certainly available to talk to, is he not? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Attomey Brennan, has he handled other matters for 14 Borden Light Marina, other than this litigation? 15 A I don't think so. 16 Q Okay. Now, sir, Borden Light Marina has never l7 requested this court to modi$ that preliminary 18 injunction;correct? 19 A No. 20 Q This preliminary injunction that issued, you were 2l involved in the proceedings whan that occurred; 22 correct? 23 A Correct. 24 Q Conect me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that
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lsn'tthatthough -yourunderstanding,didn'tThe
l,anding come into the court in 2000 with memorandums of law, affidavits, and complain to the court that Borden Light Marina, without permits, and within the twenty foot erosion control easement, had excavated
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MR. BRENNAN: We have stioulated the injunction. THE COURT: Exactly. The injunction
issued, and it was issued after there was a complainl
that the wall had been constructed within the easement. Is that what you're t
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get at?
MR. SEICENBERG: No. THECOURT: No. MR. SEIGENBERG: It's not. What happened in 2000 is eerily similar to what has happened here in 2009 thatbrought the civil contempt complaint. Samescenario. Theaffidavitandthedocumentsthat
were submitted to the court, which the court can take
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THECOURT: Okay.
MR. SEIGBNBERG: And it's the same scenario.
1aw that
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they're making here today.
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THE COURT: Okav. Well. I think we can movebeyond that. MR. SEIGENBERG: I was also THE COURT: I'll read the file and you know, the preliminary injunction issued. Obviously
the matter was not adjudicated at that point.
cetera. Weke here now to decide the issue. So, suffice it to say, the preliminary affidavits,
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that would be the only pleadings that would be appropriate to eonsider once the trial is commenced on the ultimate decision by the court. I don't see how an aflidavit from 1999, when the person's not
here, subject to cross examination, is suffrcient
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THECOURT: Mm-hmm.
MR. SEIGENBERG: And I'd be happy to use
their mechanism, except it's time consuming for the witness to go through it, so
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And he was president of Borden Light Marina until what,2007; is that correct?
Correct.
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THE COURT: And I'm sure vour attomev has explained to you THE WITNESS: Im sorry, Your Honor. THE COURT: - only answer the question thatwasasked. Ifyourattorneywantstoaskyou
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stored there?
a penalty
THECOURT: Mm-hmm.
MR. SEIGENBERG: And certainly the court
would want to know
violation ofthe court order. I would like to think that the court would want to know how much money they've realized by the violation ofthat court
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THECOURT: Okay. MR. BRENNAN: - offthe stand quickly. THECOURT: Okay,fine. REDIRECTEXAMINATION
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to show the court the financial motivation that these people had to do the type ofthings they've done. THE COURT: Well, I think that's pretty evident.
MR.BRENNAN: They'reabusiness;theymake
money.
MR. BRENNAN: I don't think their income on lt)boats storage may be public information, Your Honor.
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Mr. llnd, you were asked about the storage ofboats, howmanyadditional -howmanyboatsyoustored betweenbuildings3and5. Howmanyboatsdoyouget
to store between 3 and 5 in the easement ara, in addition to what you can do otherwise? It's in the
easement area; correct?
information. If someone wants to cotmt the boats and do the math, Im sure they can. But to inquire and
to disclose, that is not right.
of
THE COURT: I think your getting to the number of boats, how much per liner foot, we've got photographs. I think there's a way to at least
estimate that amount. You're trying to get at the
lot 3, and notjust to the easement area itself. THE COURT: I'm telling you, I don't know
where you people are going with
difference between before the wall was built and after the wall was
built. I think
we can do that by
totheeasementarea. Idon'tknowhowmany
questions we have to keep going with this.
limiting factor THECOURT: Okay. MR.BRENNAN: -versuswhattheycouldput THECOURT: Okay. MR.BRENNAN: So,myonlypointwastoask
Honor. It'suptoyou,whatyoudecidetodo.
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like to break up a trial like this, but as you know, the court is moving in early December, and they're
starting to dismantle things in Novanber. So, don't even think I'll have a courtroom available
'06 - it's a matter ofefficiency. kr'06,alotoftheboatswere blocked in, and they were to the right. After the
construction ofthe wall, they were single stacked so you had easier access. I mean, I don't think the numbers grew substantially since then. Thank you. That other question. You were asked about having two contractors working at the same time in '09. Would you tell the court how that came about? It came about because the individual who we tried to hire, and has been working - it was actually the guy
THE COURT: Okay. I,et me see what I've gol here. Exactlyoneday. Icould giveyouthe2lstof
December.
MR. SEIGENBERG: I can do itTHE COURT: Otherwise, it's going to have to be the middle ofJanuary. MR. BRENNAN: On the 2lst of Januarv. I
halfway, but somewhere in the process, the original guy we wanted said that he could come back and heln
He was freed up, so we said,
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MR. SEIGENBERG: No questions, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All
Honor.
but -
MR. SEIGENBERG: Well, we've gottor closer, Your Honor. so... MR. BRENNAN: Judge, Im sorry. I just
asked my expert; he's going to be out
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MR. BRENNAN: - the first week in January.
this - in addition to
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I'm an associate professor of geology at Northeastem University, and lm an environmental consultant at GEO Plan Associates. What's the name of the business again? GEO Plan.
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school?
I went to the state University of New York at
little earlier,
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thaCs
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MR. BRENNAN: Unfortunately. THE COURT: No comment. MR. SEIGENBERG: lrss so for you, Your Honor. It's a great spot, obviously.
in ge{logy, undergraduate.
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THECOURT: Okay. Movingalong. MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, my next witness will be Peter Rosen.
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withaspecializationincoastalgeologyin 1972. And in 1976, I went to the College of William and Mary, a school of marine science. Got a PhD in marine science in 1976, with a concenhation in
geological oceanography. I then went to the Geological Survey ofCanada and served a two-year post doctoral fellowship with the Geological Survey
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For how long have you been an associate professor at Northeastem?
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Correct. Do you hold anyprofessional licenses?
Yes,ldo.
In what states?
professional geologist in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Flodda. Now, could you explain forthe courtwhata coastal geologist is?
with earth materials, sediments that form the up'land adjacentto the shoreline.
Could you describe for the court some examples of the
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Any other tribunals, any other courts? I testified in several courts in Massachusetts, Plymouth, Boston; in Rlode Island and in Maine. I've
testified in U.S. Federal Court in New York.
MR. BRENNAN: Dan, do you have any objection to this curriculum vitae? MR. SEIGENBERG: No. MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, there's no objection. I'd like to have his curriculum vitae
marked as the next exhibit.
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MR. BRENNAN: Thank you, Your Honor. THE WITNESS: Thank you. Doctor Rosen, have you had an opportunity to visit
the site in Fall River that is the subiect matter this litigation?
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ofthe glacial islands, which are retreated coastal banks. Thefateofthatsedimentbuildingupis beachesandotherareas. I'mdealingwithsanddune
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Condominium?
Yes.
And then from the consulting standpoint, I deal with coastal structures and a definition of
wetlands boundaries, banks, dunes, barrier beaches,
beaches and other coastal wetland areas.
Onhowmanyoccasions haveyou visited the site? Ivisited thesitethreetimes. In addition to visiting the site, have you taken any other steps to familiarize yourself with the Borden Light Marina property and The Landing at South Park
property?
Are you familiar with the code of Massachusetts Regulations thatpertain to chapter 91 waterway
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Yes.Ihave.
Could you explain for the court what else you've
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damage. Based on your obsewation of the Borden Light Manna,
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you've stated that there are two coastal banks. And I would direct your attention to the most inland one
ofthetwo. Ofthetwodefinitionsyoujustgave,
which coastal bank would that one fall into?
Functions. - the landward coastal bank is a vertical buffer to
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Any historical data about the site? The photographs go back into historical time. Many ofthemwereolderphotographs,yes. Andtheaerial
photographs also went back to 1995.
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Whatabout -do youhaveanyinformationon the historical usage ofthat particular site prior to the
Marina and the condominiums? I understand that this was a railroad yard, and that
subsequent to it's use as arailroad yard, a added.
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Now, Dr. Rosan, giving the proximity of the Marina property and the land configuration of the Marina
property and The I-anding at South Park condominium parcel, are there any geological features there that you would classify as a - say, a coastal bank?
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A sediment source is ifabank can erode, and the eroding sediment might feed an adjacent beach, as
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example. So, that has some value. So that in this case the upperbank was not determined by DEP, and by
my observations, to be feeding sediment to any beneficial purpose.
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I Q Could you describe for the court what - could you 2 describe each coastal bank for the court? 3 A There are two coastal banks forming a stairstep-like 4 form. The lower coastal bank extends from somewhere 5 near water level up to, I believe, elevation ten 6 feet. Thenthere'sahorizontalexpanseofland, 7 which is most of the usable property of the Marina. 8 From there a second coastal bank or a landward 9 coastal bank extends up to the condominiumproperty. l0 Q Whatmakes a parcel of land a coastal bank? 11 A Coastal bank are defined in apolicyofthewetlands 12 regulations, and in the regulations themselves, 13 coastal banks are an elevated land form adjacent to 14 the water. 15 Q Need a coastalbankbe anaturallyoccurring land l6 formation, or can it be manmade or crealed? l7 A Theycan benatural orthey can be manmade or 18 created. 19 Q Now, can a coastal bankbe - does ithave to consist 20 ofdir! or could itbe a vertical wall? 21 A It can be a vertical wall or other materials. 22 Q Again, what purpose does a coastal bank serve? 23 A Coastal bank in general serve two purposes. One is 24 a sediment source to other wetland resource areas.
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3 expertise to calculate storm surges or wave height, 4 for example? 5 A Yes.Ido. 6 Q And what significance does wave height have to a 7 coastal geologist in a fact pattem, such as the 8 Borden Light coastal bank? 9 A The size of the wave determines in part how high the I0 waterlevelcanextend. Italsodetermineshowmuch II energy will be expended against that wall, or against 12 that coastal bank. 13 Q Having observed Mount Hope Bay, and having some idea 14 ofit's size, et cetera, could you explain to the 15 court what size wave might be generated during a 16 particular weather evett on Mount Hope Baf And 17 maybe you should pick a weather event that is 18 significant to a coastal geologist. 19 A Mount Hope Bay is a virtually enclosed body of water. 20 There's two small openings. Tidal currents such as 2l storm swge, can readily move through them, but no 22 significant amount ofwave energy is going to pass 23 through the two narrow openings that are going !o 24 impact the bay. So that the waves that are alfecting -r92-
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six-and-a-halffeet above the flood elevation,
because part
part of the wave is above water level. Have you had an opportunity to review any data that gives you the flood elevations ofthe proprty at the Borden Light Marina and The Ianding condominium?
fetch. or the distance of water over which the wind blows. Do you have an idea of what the fetch would be across Mount Hope Bay?
The fetch is very limited in most directions, except the southwesterly direction. From the southwest,
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significant elevation to you? Does that factor into your opinion? Very much so, yes. Having visited this Borden Light Marina property on
three occasions, could you describe for the court your observations ofwhat you observed there, as far
as a
Could you - starting from the north, and if this is ofanyassistance MR. BRENNAN: May I approach, Your Honor?
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beenidentifiedasnumber2l. Isthattherightone,
exhibit 21? Exhibit 21.
I've got 21. So, this may help orientate you with your testimony with the south end being Club Street,
l00percentprobabilityofthatstormoccurring.
doesn'toccurevery 100 years.
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Mount Hope Bay, and assuming the longest fetch that mightoccur, what type ofwave height might the
Marina be confronted with in a 100-year storm? In this setting, I was able to determine the maximum theoretical wave height without other variables entering into it because this is a fetch limited
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Off the top of the wall at the upper bank, there was a grassy slope, relatively low slope that extended up
to the condominium
ofthe bank? If the wave goes over the top of the bank, like
runup, as long as there is horizontal momentum, as long as the water has energy to move, it'll continue
flowing up until it runs out of anergy, and then gravity will take the water and it will flow back
downward again.
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unstable and break. When the wave becomes unstable and breaks, the water in the wave first crashes down.
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You'veusedtheterm"sloped"here. Toacoastal
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1 landward and rushes up the bank until it runs out of 2 energy. Atthatpoint, thewateriscarriedby 3 gravitybackdownslope,lmownasthebackwash. That 4 has the potential, also, for eroding and transporting 5 sediment. 6Q The7 A Thebackwash. 8 Q - wave on a vertical slope. 9 A We were talking about a slope 10 Q Imean,onaslope? 11 A Yes. 12 Q Now, could you describe forthecourtwhathappens 13 when a wave encounters a vertical coastal bank? 14 A On a vertical coastal bank, the wave mayormaynot 15 break. Ifthewavebreaks,itbreaksagainstthe 16 vertical wall. Butbeforebreaking takes place, or l'l uponcontact,partoftheenergyisreflected. Like l8 light on a mirror, part ofthe energy ofthe wave is 19 movedbackintheseawarddirection. Partofthe 20 energycanbreakagainstthewall. Atthatpoint, 2l the water in the wav has nowhere to go o(cept up. 22 So, the remaining energy that isn't reflected and 23 isn't actually transferred down the wall, potentially 24 will go straight up.
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3 particular degree ofslope before it's a slope? 4 A No,bydefinition,no. 5 Q Are you familiar with the word "graded?" 6 A Yes. 7 Q What would that word mean to you as a coastal geologist? 8 9 A Grading a surface is to level offirregularities. l0 kveling offirregularities can be of a slope or it 1 I can be ofa vertical surface, as long as you take out 12 the irregularities in the surface. 13 Q Mr. Rosen - Doctor Rosen - I've got to get that 14 straight - Doctor Rosen - strike that. 15 MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor. I have one more 16 question. l7 Q You have a binder ofexhibits in front of you? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Would you turn to page number 5, please - I mean, 20 exhibit number 5. Do you see the document entitled 2I "non-exclusive easement?" 22 A Yes,Ido. 23 Q Have you seen that document before? 24 A Yes.Ihave.
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what is presently the top ofthe slope. Were you able to determine any, at least visually from the photographs, characteristics ofthe soil material that were in the photos? The characteristics of the soil material I would call
soil,clay,sandandasmallamountofgravel. There
was also some debris in the fil'l.
Doctor Rosen, based upon your observations you made during the site visit, or site visits, and the
materials, records, photographs that you reviewed in preparation ofbeing here today, combined with your own education, experiorce and training, do you have
an opinion to a reasonable degree
ofscientific
certainty in the field ofcoastal geology as to whether or not the current vertical wall located in
the southerly 650 feet
The Ianding at South Park's rights under the non-exclusive easement for erosion control and flood protectionpurposes?
THECOURT: Sustained.
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bankwasconstructed. Andlbelievethere'ssome
quesfion whether that is consistent with what is specified in the easement, this vertical wall.
Parkproperty?
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When youwerepreparing torenderan opinionhere today, you testified thatyou viewed various photographs; is thatcorrect? Correct.
Objection, Your Honor. THE COURT: What's your objection? MR. SEIGENBERG: I rhink it's beyond his
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the wall, gorerally, in the photographs that you observed?
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DoctorRosen, in thecourse ofyourpreparation for testifying today, in your site visits, is it fair to say - strike that. Did you have an opportunity to view and
examine the segmented block wall on the property? Yes. not?
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Now, you didn't do any testing of that wall, did you No, Ididn't.
Keeping in mind the wall that you observed, and assuming for purposes ofthis question that that wal,
was constructed in accordance with engineered plans,
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opinion
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But then again, now he's evaluating the quality of the wall versus the bank he sees in a photograph.
That seems a little beyond his qualifications to do
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block segmorted retaining wall, has been constructed in accordance with an engineered plan, with that
assumpt'ion, do you have an opinion as to whether or
if
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provide. Would that satisfy you? MR. SEIGENBERG: But then he compares it,
and that's where it becomes difficult
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inquire?
hypothetical, I think.
THE COURT: Sure. There's page numbers here. Whydon'tyoujust MR. BRENNAN: Well, unfortunately, they're differentsectionsofthecode. They'renot
consecutively numbered. Actually, they're stapled.
So,
MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, if Irecall well, do answer that before I lose the opporhmity. THE COURT: Do you need it read back? THE WTNESS: Unfortunately, I would like
to hear the question again, so I can answer
it.
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DoctorRosen, assuming forpurposes of this next question, that the vertical retaining wall, the vertical coastal bank, ifyou may, that you observed out there on the property during your site walk,
assume that that wall has been constructed accordance
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portion ofexhibit number 23 in the agreed upon exhibit list" and it's definitions under that section of the CMR.
that you saw prior to the construction ofthe retaining wall, with that in mind, do you have an
to whether or not the vertical wall provides flood proiection and erosion control opinion
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4 flood protection and erosion control cornpared to the 5 pre-existing conditions based on the photographs. 6 Q Why is that? 7 A Because waves breaking on a hard structure are not 8 going to cause erosion, and because a steep slope, 9 which is the pre-existing condition, is going to 10 promote runup of waves, which is going to lead to l1 erosion, in addition to the wave impact. Waves 12 breaking on a vertical wall are pushing against the 13 soil, so that a - blocks approaching perhaps one ton 14 in weight, just an estimate, against a bank can 15 withstand direct - significant direct wave impact. 16 Q Thankyou. 17 Now, Doctor Rosen, you testifled during your qualifications that you are familiar with the l8 19 CMR Department of Environmental Protection 20 regulations pertaining to chapter 91 waterways 21 license; is that correct? 22 A Yes. 23 MR. BRENNAN: Your Honor, Im going to ask witness to reference exhibit number 23. It's 24 the
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11/10/10 1 MR. SEIGENBERG: Yes. 2 THE COURT: Do you want to start now, or do 3 you want to break now, review the issues that you 4 wanted to consider, and continue the cross 5 examination the next time we get togther? 6 MR. SEIGENBERG: It's going to be more than 7 fifteen minutes. Your Honor. 8 THE COURT: Then I think that we'll have to 9 start again in a month. What is it, two months now, 10 unfortunately,but 11 MR. SEIGENBERG: Your Honor, lm sorry, can 12 the witness leave? 13 THE COURT: Yes, the witness - you're 14 excused for now. Thank you. (Witness stepped down) 15 16 MR. SEIGENBERG: The only issue I wanted to 17 present to the court - I knowthe court's very l8 mindful ofthe fact that we did have a hearing on the l9 motion for preliminary injunctions some time ago, and 20 I only bring that to the court's attention, the 2l obvious, and hope the court might rule on that having 22 how heard some evidence in this trial, Your Honor. 23 I'm not looking to have you do it from the bench, 24 YourHonor.
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THE COURT: Not from the bench. I am it. I don't know whether I'11 have a
response out to
but I am considering
advisement.
you. I don't know when that will be, it. It's still under
is
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buildings on lot
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Commonwealth tidelands. no evidence. And it's too late for thern to address that.
THE COURT: Well, do you know what? don't want to do this in a piecemeal way. I mean, I'm going to have to look at all ofthe evidence.
I'm going to have to, you know, be examining this. lt's certainly something you can argue in your
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little more closely before I make that determination. So, you know, again, you poinled it out. I am mindful of it and vrill certainly consider it. Okay. MR. BRENNAN: Thank you, Your Honor. We'll
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monumental achievement. (Hearing suspended; Day 4 of trial is Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 9:30 a.m.
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