rom: Premanand Shenoy <mangaloreshenoy@ yahoo.com> To: TheCivilEngineer@ yahoogroups.

com Sent: Monday, 9 February, 2009 11:55:40 AM Subject: [TheCivilEngineer] Pre Engineered Buildings - Design Issues & Indian PEB Suppliers Dear Architects,Structur al Engineers, Warehouse/Plant Builders Beware! We are taken for a ride by Some of the Indian PEB Suppliers. While the Analysis of any Structure would be universal, designs need to be done as per the local/ regional codes. Other wise why different countries have different codes of Practice? For example, If a PEB is built in India, The load calculations need to be as per the latest IS 875, the designs need to be as per IS800 for main frame members, as per IS 801 for thin rolled secondary members (Z and C purlins and Girts). If a country does not have a code, the building may follow the UBC, or the code of a country near by IF suitable. To make the superstructure most economical and very competitive, most of the PEB vendors select the codes as per THEIR requirement. For example, for a structure built in India, they might calculate the loads as per IS 875, but do the design as per AISC or AISI ,MBMA and use welds as per AWS. If they feel that the Steel Section is lighter as per one code, they will adopt THAT clause of the code and select another clause of another code of another country for the design of some other part of the same building. Some PEB vendors select some clauses of Previous versions of the Code and other clauses of the Latest Versions ! This style is not the same every time. PEB Design teams are on constant research in the Selection of Codal provisions of Various countries and are on trials with different clauses. This way of varied design is not legally valid. If the loads and Codes are not specified by the buyer, It is binding on the PEB supplier to use the Local/ Regional Codes of practice. The evolution of a Code of Practice is based on the Weather & other climatic conditions, Material, Local Practices, Skill levels at manufacturing, Transporting, Assembling, erecting, finishing and maintaining. Hence it is ridiculous to use Indian Steel plate of any yield stress, Cut and manufactured in India, Loaded & transported in Indian Style, Unloaded and stacked in Indian Style, Assembled & erected by Indian (skilled) Labour, Finished by Indian Painters using Indian paints, Maintained by Indian Client in an Indian Town or village BUT DESIGNED USING AMERICAN CODE ! Most of the clients, Architects and Engineers in India feel that American Codes are Better than Indian! Clients, Architects and Engineers in India, Beware! The Pre Engineered Buildings are not a New Concept. But the Jumping-CodePractice is the NEW Concept and STYLE. If you are not Sure of the Codes, DO NOT SIGN a Purchase order just copying the Specifications given by the PEB Vendor. Just mention somewhere that the Latest Revisions of Indian Standard Codes should be followed. Luckily, India has all the codes available for the design of all the Parts of a PEB structure. Please ensure that The PEB Suppliers do a complete job of Designing, Manufacturing, Transporting, Erecting and Finishing. You need not approve any of their intermediate drawings not understood by you. Many of the PEB suppliers wash their hands off Erecting and Finishing and get 100% payments on dumping the fabricated material at the site. They force you to give the work of erecting to

their 'APPROVED VENDOR' directly employed by You. I wish to get Comments from you all. Premanand Shenoy. M.Tech,MIE,FIAStruc tE Structural Consultant and Managing Partner Roy & Shenoy, India.