Why Does Jesus Allow the Good, the Innocent, the Godly to Suffer? Oh Abba!!!! I hurt! My heart is breaking!

My loved one is suffering so much! Are You there? Do You care? *Why the Suffering of the Innocent In This World? *If Jesus really compassionately and kindly loves me, why does He let me and min e suffer so? *Why does Jesus let me suffer interracially/interethnically? *Why does Jesus let me suffer when I follow His lead into a controversial & unpo pular marriage? *Why did Jesus let me suffer so much loss/grief? *I've prayed so why am I still su ffering? *Why did Jesus let me get my STD? *Why did He let them imprison me and what am I supposed to do here? *Why did Jesus let them separate me from my family, lea ving them to suffer alone? The Bible Gives 25 Reasons Why God Lets His Children, His Disciples and The Inno cent Suffer in This Life. COPYRIGHT JANUARY 14, 1996; Revised 10/10/08; 01/14/10; 08/09/10; 03/16/11; 8/1/1 1; 2/25/12 By L. Tyler, http://biblicalmarriagepolygyny.yuku.com/topic/130#.T0qlQhyPZwc; http://biblicalmarriagepolygyny.yuku.com/forums/66; http://www.scribd.com/Elkanah21stCent; http://groups.google.com/group/polygamous _friends_of_tyler; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polygynousfriendsofTyler/; www. facebook.com/ronnie.l.tyler San Diego, CA 91976 All rights reserved.This file, in its entirety, may be posted on or copied off of computer networks like Internet or WWW by anyone so incline d as long as it is not changed. CONTENTS: [1.] I have found 25 reasons explaining why Jesus allows His own to suffer [2.] A Letter to a Suffering Friend about Suffering [3.] The 25 Reasons Jesus Allows His Own to Suffer [4.] How Should Jesus' Disciples Act Towards Those Who Make Them Suffer? [5.] WARNING! SUFFERING AHEAD! World suffering will rise to a whole new level [6] Why Would Jesus Let America Suffer? >>>>>>>>>>[1.] 25 reasons explaining why Jesus allows suffering<<<<<<<<<< I have found 25 reasons, from the Bible, that Jesus allows the innocent and the godly to suffer in this world and in this life. They are found below in this fil e. Please read on. First, a letter to a friend about suffering: >>>>>>>>>>[2.] A Letter to a Suffering Friend about Suffering<<<<<<<<<<. Dear Friend, In the last two thirds of this document I list 23 reasons the Bible gives for th e suffering experienced in this world. But before we get to them, we must deal w ith the One we feel is responsible for the suffering in this world. The God who t he Most High God in our universe characterizes Himself as Father and Love, the L ove described in 1 Cor 13. That means the One who has allowed your suffering, th e suffering you are concerned about, the One who controls the extent of the suff ering, is One who is characterized by longsuffering, patience, kindness; who is free of envy, evil jealousy, vain boasting, vainglory, haughtiness, conceit, evi l pride, rudeness, and selfishness. He is not touchy or fretful or resentful; doe s not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and trut h prevail, and bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, hopes under all circumstances, endures ever ything [without weakening], and never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. He has promised that He will work all things together for t he good of those who obediently love Him and are called according to [His] desig

n and purpose. Any suffering He allows His children to endure is under His contr ol for the good of His Children. According to Eph. 1:11 everything is under His control because He works EVERYTHI NG according to His own will. The world is never out of control. Even though Satan is allowed to be ruler of this world, and he and his demonic angels work and wi ll in people to do the evil they want to do, the book of Job shows us that Satan can't do anything to God's people without God's permission. You may ask, "Why do es Jesus let Satan do evil things and work in people to do evil?" How would you f eel if your mom said not to taste the desert she just made, and you tried to dis obey her but every time you tried you couldn't move? How would you feel if your bu ddy hit you too hard, and every time you tried to hit her back, you froze? How wo uld you feel if some little kid cussed you out, trash talked you and ridiculed y ou in public in front of your best friends, and ever time you tried to say somet hing hard back or do something to the kid you froze? How would you feel if someon e you thought was your friend ruined your best coat and then stole money out of your wallet, thinking you wouldn't see, and you tried to get even but when you t ried to do something to your buddy, you became paralyzed? You wouldn't like that kind of world, where you couldn't do the bad things you w ant to do. You would feel like a prisoner, or like you were tied up. Jesus made t his world so you could choose to not do His will, and choose to do the bad thing s you want to do, or if you wanted to, you could choose to obey Jesus because yo u Love Him. This world is made so that you can choose between doing the good and doing the evil, because He doesn't want robots or slaves. He wants people to cho ose Him because they Love Him. In the meantime, dads will choose to do evil to t heir daughters, Hitler chose to have killed 20 million people, Stalin chose to h ave killed 30 million and Mao chose to have killed over 50 million. American moth ers have chosen to kill by abortion over 40 million babies since 1960. The beauty is that He has promised that every human being who comes into the world will be enlightened by Jesus before they die (Jn 1:9), even if they haven't been born y et. So everyone has a chance to choose Jesus before they die. He gives us all th e opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11). Dear friend, please remember the point about 1 Cor. 10:13*, He doesn't allow you to be tried more than you can bear, because you are stronger, have a better und erstanding of spiritual warfare and a deeper faith, the trials will be greater-but never more than you can bear. Consider the trials of John the Baptist and al l the apostles except John. They all died violent deaths at the hands of those w ho hate them, but never more than they could bear. [1 Cor. 10: 12 So let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has taken you but [wh at is] common to man; but God [is] faithful, who will not allow you to be tempte d above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escap e, so that you may be able to bear [it].] An exercise is no exercise if it doesn't challenge you at the point where you hav e to strain and go aerobic, sometimes painfully. The same with "spiritual" muscl es, the trial has to produce stress, strain and even pain for you to become stro nger, more capable, more useful and fruitful. The fruitful vine looks terrible w hen it is pruned, and it would feel terrible if it could feel, but because it is pruned it has the potential of being more fruitful, and I know you want more fr uit of the Spirit in your life. I know that you want to compassionately cherish God and others even more than you do now, and that's how you get there. This life is boot camp and a war, which, thank God, is shortened for our sakes. Our resurr ected life with Jesus Christ is worth the struggle. All of our experiences in th is mortal life can be used of God to prepare us to help, comfort, teach, encoura ge, edify etc others better when we are given the opportunity to be his delegate d agents on earth as he rules from Jerusalem in fulfillment of His promises to K ing David. To rule the earth with Him enthroned in Jerusalem for a 1000 years (R ev. 20: 2-7), to walk around as His agents enabled to raise the dead, open the e yes of the blind, to bind up the broken limbs and hearts, to counsel the broken

hearted with wisdom inspired of God, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to free the captives, to teach in power the lost how they can be found etc etc etc etc. I can hardly wait! If you have suffered maritally, please consider attending a Christian divorce/gr ief recovery support group. You are still deeply grieving inside over your ex an d those "saints" that so deeply and carnally broke your heart. I know that I des perately needed and greatly benefited from the free one I attended at Del Cerro So. Bapt. Church. It was critical in my recovery and in my readiness to be heale d and in my learning how and where I needed to grow, to forgive my ex, and to pr epare my heart for my next. Many churches and ministries have free support group s that are usually extremely helpful. Please call around for times and places an d pray about attending and let the Lord minister to you through the saints. But why does He allow us to suffer, to grieve so deeply and have hearts so broken th an you can feel the pain throughout your chest, so depressed that it seems a str uggle to survive, grief so deep that you never know what will cause the tears to flow next? Here are some that I have become aware of and they are all for our g ood. Please consider them and, in each, ask if its goal was accomplished in your life. We know how the Most High Father let Jesus' body be tortured to death to die in o ur place for our sins, because of our sins, so that He could be both Just in puni shing sin, and Merciful in offering us forgiveness on the basis of relying on Je sus substitutionary and sacrificial death for us. The Spirit tells us that Jesus suffered much for us in His human body so that He would learn, like we have to, that it is best to obey (Heb 5:8,9). God, The Father, the Consuming Fire, the Most High God sent His only Son born of woman to bear our death penalty, allowing Him to suffer terribly. For about 19 hours the Father allowed His Son to be falsely accused, unjustly tried, verbally abused, physically abused, spit upon, beaten, slapped, punched, slugged, tied u p, led away as a prisoner, imprisoned, mocked, ridiculed, flogged Roman style wi th a whip made of leather strips embedded with pieces of bone or metal that brut ally tore His flesh, and stripped in public (Mat 26:6-27:31). His hands and feet were nailed to a cross and for about three to six hours He was hung on a cross publicly to die a slow and exceedingly painful death, every second filled with m isery suffering (Mat 27). ***1 Peter 2:19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one e ndures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit is it if, when you are be aten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you sho uld follow His steps: 22 Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, bu t committed Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righte ousnessby whose stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. NKJV ***Heb 9: 26 . . . "But now He has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, fo r the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die onceand after this, judgment 28 so also the Messiah, having be en offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him. HCSB All of the Apostles except John died violent deaths at the hands of persecutors, and they tried to kill John but he was miraculously spared to write Revelation. The Most High Father allowed Paul to suffer terribly and Jesus gave him part of the reason, to save him from pride (2 Cor 12), teaching Him that He makes His st rength perfect in our weakness, so that the credit and glory goes to the right p erson, to Jesus who was living in Paul and in lives in all His children. Jesus al lowed Paul to suffer in - - - - "imprisonments, [beaten] with countless stripes,

and frequently [at the point of] death. 24 Five times I received from [the hand s of] the Jews forty [lashes all] but one; 25 Three times I have been beaten wit h rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been aboard a ship wrecked at sea; a [whole] night and a day I have spent [adrift] on the deep; 26 Many times on j ourneys, [exposed to] perils from rivers, perils from bandits, perils from [my o wn] nation, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the desert p laces, perils in the sea, perils from those posing as believers [but destitute o f Christian knowledge and piety]; 27 In toil and hardship, watching often [throu gh sleepless nights], in hunger and thirst, frequently driven to fasting by want , in cold and exposure and lack of clothing." 2 Cor 11 Jesus and the apostles made it clear that significant suffering lies in the path of anyone who becomes a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone to be saved from the power, presence and penalty of sin. ***" Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. "(2 Timothy 3:11-13) ***Luke 6:22 "Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Mans sake. . . . 21:17 "And you will be hated by all for My names sake." ***John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, b ut I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you." So how have the children of God suffered in the past according to the Bible and Fox s Book of Martyrs? Is it like their suffering today? ***Heb 11: . . . 24 By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaohs daughter, 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the pe ople of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 esteeming the reproac h of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the rew ard. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he end ured as seeing Him who is invisible. . . . (NKJV) Others were tortured, not accep ting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and severely painful whippings, yes, and of chains and imp risonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute , afflicted, tormented 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in dese rts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And all these, having obta ined a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart fro m us. . . . 13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but havi ng seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14 For those who say such things m ake it clear that they are seeking a country of their own. 15 And indeed if they had been thinking of that country from which they went out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has p repared a city for them. NASB ***Does not He weep over our strayings, our failures that hurt ourselves, our lo ved ones, His other children; He who wept over the straying sheep of Jerusalem? ***Does not He grieve for us in our great loss and suffering , He Who wept when He saw Mary and Martha weeping over Lazarus suffering and death? ***Does not He feel our grief and sense our loss, He Who in the midst of horrifi c suffering and pain was so deeply moved to compassion for Mary when He saw her great grief and broken heart as she helplessly watched Him suffer and die, that He gave her the comfort of a son in His beloved John? ***Does not He feel and sense our grief, our loss, our hurt, our anguish; He Who is our great High Priest who having suffered as we in His mortal body can now b e touched and compassionately empathize with us in our pain, grief, loss, hurt a nd anguish?

***He who loved and welcomed the little children, who invites us to come to Him as little children, who holds us in that safe and wonderful place that is the pa lm of His nail scared hand, will He not welcome us to come running to Him crying and weeping and greiving blindly in our tears so that He can hold us close and c omfort us with His great Comforter? ***Will He not welcome us in our need and hurt; He who welcomed the leper, the o utcast, the rejected, the lonely, the lost and the desperate? ***Will not He compassionately care for and cherish us when we are belittled, st umbled, tripped, grieved, offended, shamed and spiritually weakened; He who FEEL S AND KNOWS PROFOUNDLY when one of His is belittled, stumbled, tripped, grieved, offended, weakened (1 Cor 11+Rm14)--- SO MUCH SO THAT INASMUCH AS IT WAS DONE T O ONE OF HIS IT WAS DONE TO HIM? ***Will not He welcome, understand and accept our grief, our tears, our heartach es, our regrets, our grieving over our condition, our grieving over our past; ev en as He welcomed, accepted and honored Mary s tears with which she washed His f eet? ***Will He not BE THERE FOR US in our hurt, our loss, our grief, our helplessnes s in the face of our tragedy; even as He was there for the father of the Talitha girl, there for the widow who had lost her son, and there for the Centurion and his servant? ***HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***Oh how much He loves us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***THOUGH WEEPING I PRAISE HIM!!!!!!!! ***THOUGH HEART BROKEN AND WEEPING I PRAISE AND THANK HIM!!!!!! ***THOUGH CRUSHED AND BROKEN UNDER THE WEIGHT OF MY TRIALS, I WORSHIP HIM!!!!!!! !! ***THOUGH DYING, HURTING, ACHING, GROANING, I POUR OUT MY HEART IN WORSHIP AN D THANKSGIVING TO HIM WHO LOVES AND LOVED ME AND MINE SO VERY MUCH, SO MUCH MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE CAN!!!!!!!!!! EVEN SO COME LORD JESUS!!! ***OH HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, OUR IMMANUEL, YOU ARE WITH US, YOU ARE OUR GOD WITH US AND WE ARE SAFE IN YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***ALL PRAISE, GLORY, HONOR, MAJESTY, POWER, THANKSGIVING, WORSHIP, MIGHT AND AW E TO THE FATHER AND TO THE LAMB WHO WAS SLAIN FOR US! AMEN AND SELAH! Why then does He allow us to suffer, to grieve so deeply and have hearts so brok en than you can feel the pain throughout your chest, so depressed that it seems a struggle to survive, grief so deep that you feel that you will never stop griev ing? Here are 25 reasons that I have become aware of and they are all for our good. P lease consider them and, in each, ask if its goal was accomplished in your life. >>>>>>>[3.] 25 Reasons Jesus Allows His Own to Suffer<<<<<<<< ------IF IT WAS NECESSARY & INEVITABLE FOR JESUS, THE APOSTLES, INCLUDING PAUL, T O SUFFER IN THIS EVIL WORLD, HOW CAN WE SURPRISED IF WE TOO SUFFER IN OUR BODIES IN OUR LIVES? Below are 25 reasons given for why Jesus lets us suffer in this w orld today. JESUS HAS ALLOWED US TO SUFFER, BE GRIEVED, BE HURT, BE WOUNDED - - +++REASON #1. So that we can know that we belong to Christ. If the world hated Hi m, it will hate us too----if we live like He wants us to live. ***[2 Tim 3:11 . . . What persecutions I endured! But the Lord delivered me out of all. 12 Yea, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer pe rsecution. . . . If Jesus let Paul and the other Apostles suffer and endure hard persecution, sho uldn t we realize that we may be called to experience the same? Do you understan

d what Paul said when he said that the Lord delivered him out of them all, keepi ng His promise in 1 Cor 10:13. If you believe that God does not lie, then you ha ve the promise that if you desire to live in a godly manner in Christ Jesus YOU WILL SUFFER PERSECUTION. ***1 Pet. 2: 19 For this [is an undeserved gift of loving kindness] , if for con science [toward] God anyone endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what glo ry [is it] if you patiently endure [while] sinning and being buffeted? But if yo u suffer [while] doing good, and patiently endure, this [is an undeserved gift o f loving kindness] from God. 21 For were you not called to this? For Christ also suffered on our behalf, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps , . . . Do you realize that when you were called to Jesus by the Father, you were called to follow the footsteps of Christ in His undeserved suffering at the hand of th ose who hated Him because of His kind Love, enlightening Light, liberating Truth and everlasting Life? Satan and his demons will work and will in people (Ephes 2:1,2) to harm and hurt you in every way that Father permits (Ephes 1:11), for j ust like with Job, the evil ones cannot do anything to you unless Father permits it, for your good and growth and His glory. His glory? Yes, His Glory. Think of your favorite sport and how you cheer on and cheer for your team when they do we ll. Do you realize that you are being watched, that there is rejoicing when you do well in and for Jesus, and that those watching you are learning about the gre at wisdom of Father? *** Heb 12: 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, we should lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnare s us, and we should run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. NKJV ***Ephes 3:9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which fr om the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things throu gh Jesus Christ; 10 to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be m ade known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, 11 according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our L ord, . . . Did you get that? In ou are surrounded by lities and powers in multifaceted wisdom r life, specifically n of you for obeying your suffering persecution for obeying and serving Jesus, y so great a cloud of unseen "witnesses", including "principa the heavenly places" who are learning about the amazing and of God by what they are seeing Father do in and through you how He delivers you through and out of society s persecutio and serving Jesus.

Now you may have a hard time accepting the fact that such suffering for Christ i s "an undeserved gift of loving kindness", of Grace. I hope you know that Father has rewards for His children that serve Him well, and some of those rewards are greater opportunities to serve Him doing great good during Jesus thousand year rule on earth (Rev 20:6; 2 Tim 2:12). The undeserved gift is that by serving Hi m well and bringing Him glory in your suffering of persecution, you will be rewa rded with responsibility and opportunities to do great things in and for Jesus du ring His 1000 year reign on earth from Jerusalem (Isaiah chapters 40 & 55 & 60; Jer 23:3-8; chapter 30; Ezek 34:22-31; 37:22-28; Amos 9:11-15). Remember when Je sus talked about mountain moving faith? Well it will happen during that 1000 year s (Isa 41:15; Ezek 38:20). ***Mat. 13: 20 But that which was sown on the stony places is this: he who hears the Word and immediately receives it with joy. 21 But he has no root in himself , and is temporary. For when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, he immediately stumbles. 22 And that sown into the thorns is this: he who

hears the word; and the anxiety of this world, and the deceit of riches, choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But that sown on the good ground is this : "he who hears the Word and understands; who also bears fruit and produces" one truly a hundredfold; and one sixty; and one thirty.] Look at the whole text. The good ground people are made fruitful by His seed and Spirit, even though they experience tribulation and persecution on account of t he Word; even though they resist and overcome the anxieties of this world and th e deceitfulness of riches. The good soil people endure it all until they are in the presence of their King Jesus, safe with Jesus finally and forever. >>>>>>>>>>The other 24 reasons can be found in the Files section of this group o r at http://biblicalmarriagepolygyny.yuku.com/topic/130#.T0qiaRyPZwc +++REASON #2. So that all of the Host in Heaven, all the angels, cherubim and se raphim; so that all the evil powers, evil principalities, evil rulers of darknes s and the spiritual hosts of wickedness; and so that all saints of all time may know the MAJESTY AND WONDER OF HIS GREAT LOVE FOR HIS OWN, THAT JESUS IS SALVATI ON, THE SAVIOR WHO IS ALL SUFFICIENT TO SAVE, PRESERVE, DELIVER, SHEPHERD AND CO MFORT FAITHFULLY HIS OWN WHO LOVE AND SERVE HIM, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AND THEIR LOVED ONES. The suffering is allowed to show this all-surpassing Love and Power of the Most High God, the "manifold wisdom of God," the knowledge of th e glorious Love of God in the person, Life and work of Christ. Almighty God, our Father in Heaven Loves the unseen spirit beings and visible human beings so muc h that He wants them to learn as much as is possible about Him and His beloved S on, Jesus. It s almost like a loving father doing many things to help his belove d child get to know and understand him better so that there could be a greater b redth and depth to the Love they share. When His chidren suffer in this world an d let Him work and will in them and through their suffering, then His working, w illing and shepherding of them through the suffering reveals the "manifold wisdo m of God" and the wonder of His great Love for His children in the Messiah, Jesu s our Lord. We learn how much He Loves us by the Way He Loves us, how He is fait hful to not allow us to be tested or disciplined under scrutiny above what we ar e enabled by His Spirit to bear, but with the testing by adversity also will mak e a way to for us to be delivered from/through the trial - even if necessary by death, so that we may be able to bear it for our good and His glory. (1 Cor 10:1 3; Phil 2:13; 4:13; Heb 13:20,21). ***John 21:This He spoke, signifying by what death he [Peter] would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, Follow Me. ***Eph 3:8 To me, less than the least of all saints, has this grace been given, t o announce among the nations the glad tidings of the unsearchable riches of the Christ, 9 and to enlighten all with the knowledge of what is the administration and fellowship of the mystery hidden throughout the ages in God, who has created all things through Jesus Christ, 10 in order that now to the principalities and authorities in the heavens might be made known through the assembly the all-var ious and manifold wisdom of God, 11 according to the eternal purpose of the ages , which He accomplished in the Messiah, Jesus our Lord, . . . . ***2 Cor 4:7 But we have this Treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-sur passing power is from God and not from us. 8 We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10 We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11 For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus sake, so that His Life may be revealed in our mortal body. *** Heb 12: 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, we should lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnare s us, and we should run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. NKJV ***John 11: 1 A man named Lazarus, who lived in Bethany, became sick. Bethany wa

s the village of Mary and her sister Martha.. 2 It was Mary who anointed the Lor d with ointment and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was ill. 3 So the sisters sent a message to Him: "Lord, the one You love is sick." 4 When Jesus heard it, he said, "The final result of this sickness will not be the deat h of Lazarus; this has happened in order to bring glory to God, and it will be t he means by which the Son of God will receive glory." . . . 13 However, Jesus spo ke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in slee p. 14 So Jesus told them plainly, "Lazarus is dead,15 but for your sake I am glad that I was not with him, so that you will believe. Let us go to him." . . . 40 J esus said to her, "Didn t I tell you that you would see God s glory if you believ ed?41 So they removed the stone. Jesus looked up and said, " I thank you, Father, that you listen to me.42 I know that you always listen to me, but I say this fo r the sake of the people here, so that they will believe that You sent me." +++REASON #3. So that evil doers will not come to God just to escape from Hell a nd suffering in this life. He wants sinners to come to Him because they love Him who first loved them, not because they forgot to join the Noah s Ark Club and d on t want to drown. The promise that all who live godly in Christ Jesus is often enough to scare away the superficial and shallow pretenders. He allows evil to happen to His own children, to separate the wheat from the chaff and so that we may find out if our faith is real, or just froth. Noah s flood Genesis 6 + Rev. 21:27 ***[Mat. 13: 20 But that which was sown on the stony places is this: he who hear s the Word and immediately receives it with joy. 21 But he has no root in himsel f, and is temporary. For when tribulation or persecution arises on account of th e word, he immediately stumbles. ***1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time. And just as you have heard t hat antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have risen up, from which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of u s; for if they were of us, they would have continued with us. But [they went out ] so that it might be revealed that they were not all of us. +++REASON #4. So that we wont miss (be homesick, want to look/go back like Lot s wife did) this world s social-economic-political system when we are in Heaven o r ruling with Christ on earth. To love the world s social, political, and econom ic systems is to be God s enemy. He wants us to be so burned out, disillusioned, disappointed and alienated by the by the social systems of this world, by our fa ith in people, that we won t look back or wish to go back to them. ***[1 John 2:15 Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone lo ves the world, the love of the Father is not in him, 16 because all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of li fe, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever.; ***Heb. 11: 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but ha ving seen them afar off. And they were persuaded of [them] and embraced [them] a nd confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they who say such things declare plainly that they seek a fatherland. 15 And truly, if t hey had been mindful of that [country] from which they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they stretch forth to a better [fa therland], that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called th eir God, for He has prepared a city for them.] ***Lk 9:62 But Jesus said to him, "No one who puts his hand to the plow and look s back is fit for the kingdom of God." +++REASON #5. So that we can know how and why to choose between the good and the evil. We don t seem to be so inclined to do evil if we know it is going to hurt , and hurt us specifically. ***[Deut. 30:15 Behold! I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, so that y

ou may live and multiply. And the LORD your God shall bless you in the land wher e you go to possess it. 17 But if you turn away your heart, so that you will not hear, but shall be drawn away and worship other gods [self, money, sex etc.] an d serve them, 18 I declare to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong [your] days on the land where you pass over Jordan to go to possess it. 19 I call Heaven and earth to record today against you. I have set before yo u life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life, so that both you and your seed may live, 20 so that you may love the LORD your God, . . +++REASON #6. Because of our own sins. Our Father Loves us enough to discipline us. Our Shepherd King Loves us sheep enough to use His rod on us when we need it to see His way. ***1 Cor. 5: 1 Everywhere [it is] reported [that there is] fornication among you , and such fornication as is not named among the nations, so as one to [sexually ] have [his] father s wife. 2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned , so that he who has done this deed may be taken from your midst. 3 For as being absent in body but present in spirit, I indeed have judged already [as though I were] present [concerning] him who worked out this thing; 4 in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, with my spirit; also, with th e power of our Lord Jesus Christ; 5 to deliver such a one to Satan for the destr uction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesu s. ***1 Cor. 11: 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] brea d and drink of that cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks unworthily eats and drink s condemnation to himself, not discerning the Lord s body. 30 For this cause man y among you [are] weak and sickly, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ours elves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by [t he] Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. ***Hebrews 12: 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as t o children, "My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked by Him; 6 for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and He scourges every son whom He receives." 7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with s ons, for what son is he whom the father does not chasten? 8 But if you are witho ut chastisement, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons. 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh who corrected [us], and we gave [them] reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spi rits and live? 10 For truly they chastened [us] for a few days according to thei r own pleasure, but He for our profit, that [we] might be partakers of His holin ess. 11 Now chastening for the present does not seem to be joyous, but grievous. Nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who are exercised by it. +++REASON #7. To cause us to learn to be humble, to keep us from thinking better of ourselves than is correct or appropriate. ***[ 2 Cor. 12 For I will speak the truth. But I spare, lest anyone should think of me as [being] beyond what he see s me, or hears of me; 7 and by the surpassing revelations, lest I not be made ha ughty, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be made haughty. 8 For this thing I besought the Lord three times, that i t might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore I will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may overshadow me. 10 Therefore I am pleased in weaknesses, in insults, in necessities, in persecutions, in distress es for Christ s sake; for when I am weak, then I am powerful. +++REASON #8. To cau tion us against being arrogant or having ignorant presumption in prayer, and to exhibit to us His all-sufficiency in all the affairs of our personal lives. If y ou think there is some part of your life that you can handle without God s help, and you are His child, it wont be long before He lets things happen in that are a of your life that will bring you to your knees in prayer. ***[Rom 5:3 And not only [this], but we glory in afflictions also, knowing that afflictions work out patience, 4 and patience [works out] experience, and experi ence [works out] hope. 5 And hope does not make [us] ashamed, because the love o

f God has been poured out in our hearts through [the] Holy Spirit given to us. 2 Cor.12: 7-10 SEE ABOVE] +++REASON #9. To help and enable us to learn and acquire patience, experience and hope in the compassionate cherishing of God in the mids t of trials and suffering. SEE Rom. 5:3,4 ABOVE +++REASON #10. Because of His Na me- Because of His Truth - Because of His Life - Because of the shining Light of His Truth, because it is an honor to be counted worthy of His sufferings if God permits. ***[Acts 5:40 And calling the apostles, beating [them], they commanded not to sp eak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 Then indeed they departed from [th e] presence of the Sanhedrin, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to be sham ed for His name. ***Rom 8: 17 And if we are children, then we are heirs; heirs of God and joint-he irs with Christ; so that if we suffer with [Him], we may also be glorified toget her. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [ to be compared] with the coming glory to be revealed in us. +++REASON #11. So that we may have the honor of being glorified together with Him who suffered so great ly at the hands of this world s social system. [ SEE Rom. 8:17 ABOVE] +++REASON #12. So that we may be perfected, completed, and matured spiritually i n our lives in Christ. ***[Heb. 2: 9 But we see Jesus, who [was] made a little lower than the angels fo r the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, that He by [the] grace o f God should taste death for every [son]. 10 For it became Him, for whom [are] a ll things and by whom [are] all things, in bringing many sons into glory, to per fect the Captain of their salvation through sufferings. ***1 Pet. 5: 10 But the G od of all grace, He calling us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you h ave suffered a little, [He] will perfect, confirm, strengthen, and establish [yo u]. +++REASON #13. So that we may learn to Love Jesus and His Way enough to obey Him even when it hurts. ***[Heb. 5:7* [For Jesus], in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up pray ers and supplications with strong cryings and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared, 8* though being a Son, yet He l earned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9* And being made perfect, He became [the] Author of eternal salvation to all those who obey Him, . . . Psalm 15:4 +++REASON #14. So that we may be established, strengthened and settled in Christ , pruned of all the dead wood in our lives. [see 1 Peter 5:10 above] +++REASON #15. Because they hated and killed Jesus they will hate and try to kil l the Jesus in us. ***[Lk. 6: 22 Blessed [are] you when men shall hate you, and when they shall cut you off, and when they shall reproach [you] and shall cast out your name as evi l, for the sake of the Son of man. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy. For behold, your reward [is] great in Heaven. For so their fathers did according to these things to the prophets. [John 15:18,19 see above.] +++REASON #16. To end at us the cycle of some of the hate and violence in our liv es, we being what Martin Luther King Jr. called "shock absorbers" of the evil ar ound us, so that it will stop at us and we will learn not to pass it on. He has called us to turn the cheek, go the second mile and bless and pray for those who curse and abuse us. *** [Luke 6: 27* But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who despitefully use you. 29* And to him who strikes you on the [one] cheek, also offer the other . And to him who takes away your garment, do not forbid your tunic also. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and from him who takes away your goods, do not ask [them] again. 31 And as you desire that men should do to you, you do also to th em likewise. 32 For if you love those who love you, what thanks do you have? For sinners also love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do go

od to you, what thanks do you have? For sinners also do the same. 34 And if you lend [to those] of whom you hope to receive, what thanks do you have? For sinner s also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing [in return]. And your reward shall be grea t, and you shall be the sons of the Highest. For He is kind to the unthankful an d [to] the evil. 36 Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. Matt . 5; ***Romans 12: 14 Bless those who persecute you; bless, and do not curse. . . . 17 * Repay no one evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If [it is] possible, as far as [is] in you, seeking peace with all men. 19* not avenging yourselves, beloved, but giving place to wrath; for it is written, "Ven geance [is] Mine, I will repay, says [the] Lord." 20 Therefore if your enemy hun gers, feed him. If he thirsts, give him drink. For [in so] doing you shall heap coals of fire on his head. 21* Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil wit h good.; ***1 Cor. 6: 7 Indeed then there is already a failure with you all, that you hav e lawsuits with yourselves. Why not instead be wronged? Why not instead be defra uded? 8 But you do wrong and defraud, and these things to brothers. +++REASON #17. So that we will grow in the Lord to the godly maturity of wholehe artedly loving Jesus and His disciples more than we love the natural, carnal, un godly or unregenerated nature/personalities of our fathers, mothers, sons, daugh ters ***Mat 10: 37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy o f me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; NIV L uke 12:53; 14:26 ***Matt 12:48But he replied to the man who told him, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" 49And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, " Here are my mother and my brothers! 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother." ESV Mark 3:34,35; 10:29-31; Lk 8:21 ***Matt 28:19:28-30 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or f ather or mother or children or farms for My name s sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. Mark 10:28-31 +++REASON #18. So that our enduring and genuine faith may bring praise, honor an d glory at His appearing in the presence of all the angels, demons, cherubim, se raphim and those with Christ. ***[Hebrews 12:1 Therefore since we also are surrounded with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily besets [us ], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 looking to Jes us the Author and Finisher of [our] faith, who for the joy that was set before H im endured [the] cross, despising the shame, and sat down at the right of the th rone of God. 3 For consider Him who endured such contradiction of sinners agains t Himself, lest you be weary and faint in your minds. ***1 Pet. 1: 6 in which you greatly rejoice, yet a little [while], if need be, g rieving in manifold temptations; 7 so that the trial of your faith (being much m ore precious than that of gold that perishes, but being proven through fire) mig ht be found to praise and honor and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, . . .] +++REASON #19. So that we could experience God s solutions and faithfulness and comfort for our griefs and trials so we will have learned how to share His comfo rting solutions with the others He leads us to who are experiencing similar grie vous trials. Preparation for ministry now and in the 1000 year reign of Christ o n earth. ***[2 Cor. 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the F ather of mercies and the God of all comfort, 4 He comforting us in all our troub le, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in every trouble, through th e comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds by Christ. ***2 Timothy2: 11 Faithful [is] the word, for if we are dead with [Him], we shal

l also live with [Him]. 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [Him]. . . . ** *Revelations 20: 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was giv en to them. And [I saw] the souls of those who had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast nor his i mage, nor had received [his] mark on their foreheads, nor in their hands. And th ey lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. +++REASON #20. So that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you , and you in Him. ***2 Thessalonians 1: 3 We are bound to thank God always for you, my brothers, as it is right, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of each one of you abounds toward one another; 4 so much so that we ourselves glory in you in t he churches of God, for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tri bulations which you endure. 5 For [this is] a manifest token of the righteous ju dgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God for which yo u also suffer, . . . 11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of [this] calling and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goo dness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Chris t may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and [the] Lord Jesus Christ. +++REASON #21. Because we fail to pray as we ought to pray and don t ask Him to deliver us and our from evil, the Evil One, the evil ones. We fail to obey Jesus and pray "deliver us from the evil one." People suffer and experience pain in th is world because they choose not to go to Jesus for deliverance and redemption, choosing not to ask for His help His Way. ***Mat 5: 13 And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evi l one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. ***Jame s 4:" . . . . You do not have, because you do not ask."

+++REASON #22. Because we are followers of Christ, who was tortured and executed by the world. If they did it to Him, they ll surely do it to us too. All but on e of the apostles were martyred. ***[John 15: 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. But beca use you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute y ou. If they have kept My saying, they will also keep yours. 21 But all these thi ngs they will do to you for My name s sake, because they do not know Him who sen t Me. +++REASON #23. Because we have become unrighteously rich and full "lacking n othing", unrighteously laughing, popular and acclaimed; failing to be generous t o the needy. ***Luke 6:24 But woe to you who are rich, because you have received your comfort. 2 to you who are full now, because you will be hungry. Woe to you who are laughing n se you will mourn and weep. 26 Woe to you when all people speak well of you, be the way their ancestors used to treat the false prophets. [HCSB] ***1 Tm 6:9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruc tion. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through th is craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves wi th many pangs. . . . 17 As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy. 18 They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, 19 thus storing up treasure f or themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life. ESV +++REASON #24. Nations, States, Cities and communities suffer from Gods punishmen t of their sins. ***De 29:19 and it come to pass, when he hears the words of this curse, that he

bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the stu bbornness of my heart, to sweep away the drunken with the thirsty. 20 Jehovah will not pardon him, but the anger of Jehovah and his jealousy will then smoke again st that man, and all the curse shall be upon him that is written in this book; a nd Jehovah will blot out his name from under the heavens; . . . 22 And the gener ation to come, your children who shall rise up after you, and the foreigner that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and its sicknesses wherewith Jehovah hath visited it, 23 that the whole ground t hereof is brimstone and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, and no grass groweth in it, like the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeb oim, which Jehovah overthrew in his anger and in his fury: 24 even all nations s hall say, Why has Jehovah done thus to this land? whence the heat of this great anger? 25 And men shall say, Because they have forsaken the covenant of Jehovah the God of their fathers, which he had made with them when he brought them forth out of the land of Egypt; 26 and they went and served other gods, and bowed dow n to them, gods whom they knew not, and whom he had not assigned to them. 27 And the anger of Jehovah was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the cu rse that is written in this book; 28 and Jehovah rooted them out of their land i n anger, and in fury, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it appears this day. ***Eze 5:12 A third of you will come to death from disease, wasting away among y ou through need of food; a third will be put to the sword round about you; and a third I will send away to every wind, letting loose a sword after them. . . . 1 7 And I will send on you need of food and evil beasts, and they will be a cause of loss to you; and disease and violent death will go through you; and I will se nd the sword on you: I the Lord have said it. ***Eze 14:13 Son of man, when a land, sinning against me, does wrong, and my han d is stretched out against it, and the support of its bread is broken, and I mak e it short of food, cutting off man and beast from it: . . . 15 Or if I send evi l beasts through the land causing destruction and making it waste, so that no ma n may go through because of the beasts: . . . 19 Or if I send disease into that land, letting loose my wrath on it in blood, cutting off from it man and beast: ***Ezek 16:49 Truly, this was the sin of your sister Sodom: pride, a full measur e of food, and the comforts of wealth in peace, were seen in her and her daughte rs, and she gave no help to the poor or to those in need. 50 They were full of p ride and did what was disgusting to me: and so I took them away as you have seen . 51 And Samaria has not done half your sins; but you have made the number of yo ur disgusting acts greater than theirs, making your sisters seem more upright th an you by all the disgusting things which you have done. 52 And you yourself wil l be put to shame, in that you have given the decision for your sisters; through your sins, which are more disgusting than theirs, they are more upright than yo u: truly, you will be shamed and made low, for you have made your sisters seem u pright. . . . 58 The reward of your evil designs and your disgusting ways has co me on you, says the Lord. 59 For this is what the Lord has said: I will do to yo u as you have done, you who, putting the oath on one side, have let the agreemen t be broken. +++REASON #25. So that we will finally realize our great need of Him, especially when in situations where only He can meet that need, only He can save us. He br ought Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Gideon and David to a place in thei r lives when their lives were at great risk and there was no one to help except for Jesus-Jehovah. He may allow suffering in your life to cause you to realize y our need of His deliverance. Psalm 103 tell us that He forgives all the sinful u ngodliness of those who trust only Jesus to save them from the Hell their sins d eserves; and that He redeems their lives from the deadly Pit. ***We will greatly celebrate You, Jehovah, with our mouths. Yea, We will praise You among the multitudes. For You stand at the right hand of the needy, to save them from those that judge their souls.>Psa 109. ***I alone am the Lord, the only one who can save you. Isaiah 43:10-12 GNT ***Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything

against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way. Daniel 3:28-30 NIV ***Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us. Acts 4:11-13 GNT ***JAMES 4:God is the only lawgiver and judge. He alone can save and destroy . . . .GNT >>>>[4.] How Should Jesus

How should genuine Christians personally act towards the evil doers who do them harm, cause them loss or bring God s judgment on the nation? "27 But I say to you who are listening now to Me: [in order to heed, make it a p ractice to] love your enemies, treat well (do good to, act nobly toward) those w ho detest you and pursue you with hatred, 28 Invoke blessings upon and pray for the happiness of those who curse you, implore God s blessing (favor) upon those who abuse you [who revile, reproach, disparage, and high-handedly misuse you]. 2 9 To the one who strikes you on the jaw or cheek, offer the other jaw or cheek a lso; and from him who takes away your outer garment, do not withhold your underg arment as well. 30 Give [something] to everyone who begs of you, and of him who takes away from you your goods, do not demand or require them back again. 31 And as you would like and desire that men would do to you, do exactly so to them. 3 2 If you [merely] love those who love you, what quality of credit and thanks is that to you? For even the [very] sinners love their lovers (those who love them) . . . . 35 But love your enemies and be kind and do good and lend, expecting and hoping for nothing in return but considering nothing as lost and despairing of n o one; and then your recompense (your reward) will be great (rich, strong, inten se, and abundant), and you will be sons of the Most High, for He is kind and cha ritable and good to the ungrateful and the selfish and wicked." How is it possible to kindly and compassionately Love those who have made themse lves our enemies, those who seek to do us harm and cause us loss? How is it possi ble to kindly and compassionately Love one who is in the process of killing you, like Jesus and Stephen did? It is a supernatural act enabled by the Holy Spirit. But before we get into that, it really helps if we see our godless anti-Jesus e nemies the way they really are. They are spiritually blind, dead and doomed to an eternity of suffering in a place completely devoid of kind Love, enlightening L ight, liberating Truth, everlasting purposeful and meaningful Life, and the incr edibly wonderful Way of dwelling with loved ones in peace and harmony. ***2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same v eil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is ta ken away in Christ. ***2 Corinthians 4: . . . 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the ima ge of God, should shine on them. ***Ephesians 4: . . . 18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated fr om the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the bli ndness of their heart; ***Ephesians 2:1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, . . . 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ ( by grace you have been saved), ***2Thess 1: 6 [It is a fair decision] since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with distress and affliction those who distress and afflict you, 7 And to recompense] you who are so distressed and afflicted [by granting you] relief and rest along with us [your fellow sufferers] when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 To deal out retribution (ch astisement and vengeance) upon those who do not know or perceive or become acqua inted with God, and [upon those] who ignore and refuse to obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 Such people will pay the penalty and suffer the punishment

Disciples Act Towards Those Who Make Them Suffer?<<<<

of everlasting ruin (destruction and perdition) and eternal exclusion and banis hment from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 When He com es to be glorified in His saints [on that day He will be made more glorious in H is consecrated people], and [He will] be marveled at and admired [in His glory r eflected] in all who have believed [who have adhered to, trusted in, and relied on Him], because our witnessing among you was confidently accepted and believed [and confirmed in your lives]. AB ***Rev 21:8 But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbeliev ing and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and the sexually immoral and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters (those who give supreme devotion to anyone or anything other than God ) and all liars (those who knowingly convey untruth by word or deed)--[all of th ese shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death. When you see your oppressor, tormentor and/or executioner in this light you migh t be more inclined to be moved to kindly Love them, but it still requires the su pernatural intervention and enabling of the Holy Spirit. We need to [1] call on Jesus to save us from our natural human reaction and response to such evil doers (Rom 10:13) and the suffering they inflict upon us, [2] present and yield oursel ves to Jesus to be used as His instruments (Rom 6:13,19 and 12:1,2), and [3] tru st Him to work and will His supernatural Life, Work and Will in and through us. ***John 15:5 I am the Vine; you are the branches. Whoever lives in Me and I in h im bears much (abundant) fruit. However, apart from Me [cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing. ***Phil 2:13[Not in your own strength] for it is God Who is all the while effect ually at work in you [energizing and creating in you the power and desire], both to will and to work for His good pleasure, satisfaction and delight. ***Heb 13:20 Now may the God of peace . . . 21 Strengthen (complete, perfect) and make you what you ought to be and equip you with everything good that you may c arry out His will; [while He Himself] works in you and accomplishes that which i s pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ (the Messiah); to Whom be the glor y forever and ever (to the ages of the ages). Amen (so be it). Jesus Spirit in you can work and will in you to kindly Love those who are cruci fying you, who are stoning you to death, and to ask Jesus to forgive them for yo ur tormentors are spiritually blind, dead and doomed to an eternity of suffering , the result of their choice to reject Jesus and His Way, and to choose their ow n way to do their own thing. Follow Jesus example in His suffering. First of all , PRAY! Pray like Jesus did as He prepared to let His enemies kill His body. Cal l upon the Name of the Lord for His empowering, enabling and His working and wil ling in you. Then go like Jesus went, as a lamb to the slaughter, but as bold as a lion for Jesus when asked or given opportunity to speak. I love the testimony of the young African Christian girl who began to sing praises when her tormente rs began to abuse her, and continued singing praises as long as she could until they finally killed her to silence her. >>>>>>[5.] WARNING! SUFFERING AHEAD!<<<<<< >>>>>>>> World suffering could rise to a whole new level since<<<<<<<< World suffering could rise to a whole new level since according to the news, Isr ael is preparing to attack Iran s nuclear development facilities, Saudi Arabia h as given Israel fly over permission giving Israel s airforce a clear shot at Ira n, Hezbollah is moving foot soldiers close to Lebanese-Israeli border and prepar ing many of their 40,000 missles for firing against Israel, and Hamas is prepari ng for an attack on Israel from the south. If Israel strikes after 8/19 any attac k on Iran s facility loading nuclear fuel rods will result in nuclear fallout ov er wide areas of the Mid East, including possible fallout on American soldiers i

n Afghanistan and Iraq. If Israel doesn t strike before 8/20, Iran will have nucl ear weapons much sooner than expected. Israel is a very small nation and two or three nuclear explosions in Israel would essentially destroy the nation. Israel can t let it come to that. Israel would probably have to use its nuclear weapons to stop the Hezbollan hordes if they invade Israel. Israel would probably have to use nuclear weapons to destroy Iran s nuclear program. All of this makes Reve lation 6 seem very possible: ***Revelation [literal translation] 6:3 And when He [Jesus] opened the second sea l, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and behold!" 4 and there wen t forth another horse -- red, and to him who is sitting upon it, there was given to him to take the peace from the land, and that one another they may slay, and there was given to him a great sword.5 And when He opened the third seal, I hear d the third living creature saying, "Come and behold!" and I saw, and lo, a blac k horse, and he who is sitting upon it is having a balance in his hand,6and I hea rd a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A measure of wheat for a denary, and three measures of barley for a denary," [very high prices for food meaning food shortage and resulting famine] and "The oil and the wine you may not injure."7 And when He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fo urth living creature saying, `Come and behold! 8 and I saw, and lo, a pale horse , and he who is sitting upon him -- his name is Death, and Hades doth follow wit h him, and there was given to them authority to kill, (over the fourth part of t he land (Mid East?), country (Israel?), world (societies, cultures?) or the eart h,) with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and by the beasts of the land. (Strong s1093) gh~, ghay; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application): countr y, earth, ground, land, world. I hope all the pre-tribulation rapture people are correct, but I believe they ar e not. I believe the rapture takes place at the last trumpet: ***1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (Holman Christian Standard Bible) 51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery: We will not all fall asleep, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the TRUMPET will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. ***1 THESS 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel s voice, and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. ***Rev 11: 15 The seventh angel blew his TRUMPET, and there were loud voices in heaven saying: The kingdom of the world has become the [kingdom] of our Lord and of His Messiah, and He will reign forever and ever! If that is the case, then that means that we, the disciples of Jesus Christ, wil l go through most of the Great Tribulation, described in Revelation chapters 6 11. Believing this it is easy to see how the impending war between Iran and Isra el could be the war described in Revelation 6, where one fourth of the Mid Easte rn population is killed in the first several weeks. Iran now has nuclear bombs a nd the missiles that could deliver them to Israel, Europe and our military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. This means that the two Moslem states that have nuclear weapons, Iran and Pakistan, have powerful segments of their population that are committed to the destruction of Israel. Israel would be insane to not make a pr eemptive strike given the following facts: It is clear that it wouldn t take many of these nuclear bombs and their fall out to kill most of the people in Israel, and the fallout would kill tens of thousa nds in Syria, Jordan and Iraq. If Israel were attacked simultaneously from the north by Hezbollah in Syria, by

the PLO from the east, and by Hamas and Egypt s Moslem Brotherhood from the sout h, it is perfectly reasonable that Israel will have to use its nuclear weapons, including a strike against Iran, and that could be the beginning of the Revelati on 6 war that begins the Great Tribulation. Oil, gas and everything made from th em would become extremely expensive here in the USA, forcing Americans who live from paycheck to paycheck into desperate living conditions, and many would fall into a hard and difficult poverty struggling just to have shelter, food and clot hing. >>>>>>>>[6] Why Would Jesus Let America Suffer?<<<<<<<<<< Under Obama s plan to lead our country deep into debt by the Trillions, already a family of four s part of the national debt is 2 million dollars, has the dolla r at 6o cent compared to the English pound, 65 cents to the Euro and 75 cents to the Japanese Yen. As the value of the dollar continues to fall we will have to pay more and more of those dollars for everything. Obama says he won t raise tax es on the middle class, but he is causing the price of everything to go up and u p, affecting all including the middle class. Hard times ahead. You know that I b elieve that America is in line for the wrath of God for all its sexual immoralit y, atheism, secularism and is well described in Romans 1 ***18 From heaven God shows how angry He is with all the wicked and evil things that sinful people do to crush the truth. 19 They know everything that can be kn own about God, because God has shown it all to them. 20 God s eternal power and character cannot be seen. But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all He has made. That s why those people don t have any excus e. 21 They know about God, but they don t honor Him or even thank Him. Their tho ughts are useless, and their stupid minds are in the dark. 22 They claim to be w ise, but they are fools. 23 They don t worship the glorious and eternal God. Ins tead, they worship idols that are made to look like humans who cannot live forev er, and like birds, animals, and reptiles. 24So God let these people go their own way. They did what they wanted to do, and their filthy thoughts made them do sh ameful things with their bodies. 25 They gave up the truth about God for a lie [ in their schools, colleges, legislation, judicial decrees], and they worshiped G od s creation [i.e. each other] instead of God, who will be praised forever. Amen . 26 God let them follow their own evil desires. Women no longer wanted to have sex in a natural way, and they worked their genitals with each other unnaturally . 27 Men behaved IN THE SAME WAY. They stopped wanting to have sex with women and had strong desires for sex with other men. They work their genitals with each o ther, and what has happened to them is punishment for their foolish deeds. 28 Sin ce these people refused even to think about God [in their schools, work, enterta inment and politics], He let their useless minds rule over them. That s why they do all sorts of indecent things. 29 They are evil, wicked, and greedy, as well as mean in every possible way. They want what others have, and they murder, argu e, cheat, and are hard to get along with. They gossip, 30 say cruel things about others, and hate God. They are proud, conceited, and boastful, always thinking up new ways to do evil [like killing 45 million babies in their mothers wombs]. These people don t respect their parents. 31 They are stupid, unreliable, and do n t have any love or pity for others. 32 They know God has said that anyone who acts this way deserves to die. But they keep on doing evil things, and they even encourage others to do them. Did you get that? "They know God has said that anyone who acts this way deserves to die." God breaks it down in Ezek 14 ***12 The LORD God said: 13 Ezekiel, son of man, suppose an entire nation sins a gainst me, and I punish it by destroying the crops and letting its people and li vestock starve to death. . . . 15Or suppose I punish a nation by sending wild ani mals to eat people and scare away every passerby, so that the land becomes a bar ren desert. . . . 17Or suppose I send an enemy to attack a sinful nation and kill its people and livestock. . . . 19 And suppose I am so angry that I send a deadly disease to wipe out the people and livestock of a sinful nation. 20 Again, even if Noah, Daniel, and Job were living there, I, the LORD, promise that the child

ren of these faithful men would also die. Only the three of them would be spared . We live in a country that is under God s death sentence, with severe punishment coming, with fewer and fewer true disciples and followers of Jesus as their King . Apparently there are still enough left to cause it to be spared, like with Lot and Sodom, but when the Abrahams of today stop interceding, and when there are not enough children of God found to cause it to be spared, GOD S HAMMER WILL FALL ON AMERICA - wild animals, violent enemy attacks, deadly diseases and famine. Go d pulled Lot out of Sodom but it wasn t a pleasant or easy experience, costing h im his wife and all his possessions and great hardship. We need to be ready, con verting our paper money to gold and silver, laying up a month s supply of food a nd water, enough clothing to survive without electricity or gas, and some other form of transportation like bikes etc. Hard times are coming and suffering lies ahead in our future. Be like the ants and prepare to be prepared. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrthodoxBiblicalMarriagePolygamy http://groups.google.com/group/BiblicalChristianPolygamyPolygyny http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PolyPolygamyPolygynyNJesus http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlackPolygyny/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Latin_Am_Mexican_Spanish_Christian_Poly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2648256332 http://www.shtyle.fm/community.do?cid=41185 http://www.flickr.com/groups/christian_polygyny/ http://www.flickr.com/groups/christian_polygamy/