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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:00:01 20:00:06 20:00:18 20:00:18 20:00:27 20:00:32 20:00:32 20:00:34 20:00:34

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn hosting. Topic: 'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?' Add the #ukedchat widget to your site. Take a look at http://t.co/F2EKhdBv @Teaching_LMP: Ok I'm ready. Let's go #ukedchat << me too @Teaching_LMP: Ok I'm ready. Let's go #ukedchat << me too #ukedchat #nationalmusicplan says there'll be an optional music training module for primary trainees @Teaching_LMP glad to see you are raring to go. I'm interested to hear about your PGCE experiences this year #ukedchat @Teaching_LMP glad to see you are raring to go. I'm interested to hear about your PGCE experiences this year #ukedchat #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @davidhunter Resilience #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @davidhunter Resilience #ukedchat Could be more emphasis on the softer skills that make a good teacher such as emotional intelligence, resilience & tutoring #ukedchat Could be more emphasis on the softer skills that make a good teacher such as emotional intelligence, resilience & tutoring RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn host. Topic: 'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?' <Worth a look opening question what do the current crop of teachers need to do well? #ukedchat #ukedchat positive behaviour management definitely! If you can't manage a class and build relationships you're on a no-starter #ukedchat time management To embrace that times are changing and innovation is required #ukedchat #ukedchat time and behaviour management! RT @ukedchat: Tonight's #ukedchat will be archived at http://t.co/gTCovWdS after the chat. RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat time and behaviour management! RT @tesPrimary: RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn host. Topic: 'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?' <Worth a look @nightzookeeper I'm actually having a pretty negative week. Do you have a more specific question so that I don't just rant at you? #ukedchat If you are joining #ukedchat tonight, make sure you use the hashtag and unprotect your tweets. RT @claireothacehe: #ukedchat positive behaviour management definitely! If you can't manage a class and build relationships you're on a no-starter RT @DKeano1985: To embrace that times are changing and innovation is required #ukedchat #ukedchat Well, what about skills required to teach education for sustainable development fpr starters @nightzookeeper @jamesdradburn @chilledteaching Aren't a huge proportion of teacher training institutions rated as "outstanding"? #ukedchat #ukedchat trainee teachers need subject knowledge of how to teach real things. Experience of planning & teaching guided reading/phonics etc #ukedchat my take:whats the point in teaching facts?those facts are available at everyone's fingertips.teach how to get there and scrutinise @jamesdradburn @davidhunter #ukedchat Def through placement dealing with the emotionally draining side of the job #ukedchat At least basic behaviour management/ underlying causes of challenging behaviour RT @DKeano1985: To embrace that times are changing and innovation is required #ukedchat How to communicate with parents. Hugely important area that needs to be covered #ukedchat RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat my take:whats the point in teaching facts?those facts are available at everyone's fingertips.teach how to get there and scrutinise @oldandrewuk @nightzookeeper @chilledteaching I wouldn't know! But there are so many avenues into teaching #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:03:05 20:03:06 20:03:10 20:03:22 20:03:22 20:03:22 20:03:23 20:03:36 20:03:53 20:03:55 20:04:11 20:04:21 20:04:22 20:04:24 20:04:31 20:04:34 20:04:50 20:04:53 20:04:55 20:05:07 20:05:08 20:05:15 20:05:26 20:05:33 20:05:37 20:05:43 20:05:59 20:05:59 20:06:02 20:06:07 20:06:25 @oldandrewuk @leahyben @nickotkdIV @HilaryNunns @syded06 @nightzookeeper @ICTmagic @Teaching_LMP @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe @nickotkdIV @DepJo @Teaching_LMP @oldandrewuk @DKeano1985 @nightzookeeper @mikeatedji @Mrs_Cosgrove @joanne_rich @nickotkdIV @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @davidhunter @Teaching_LMP @MattFothergill @DepJo @Teaching_LMP @oldandrewuk @MariamAlhashmi @oldandrewuk

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @claireothacehe #ukedchat "Positive behaviour management"? Isn't that a way of saying "appeasement"? RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat my take:whats the point in teaching facts?those facts are available at everyone's fingertips.teach how to get there and scrutinise #ukedchat currently students alway impress me on twitter with their knowledge of technology. Even three years a go this was never this big The next generation will understand the 21st century students! Pedagogy and classroom management #ukedchat @davidhunter absolutely they now need the skills to facilitate rather than deliver content #ukedchat @claireothacehe This isn't an easy skill to develop. How were you taught? Anyone got good behaviour management tips tonight? #ukedchat Tomorrow's teachers need to be adaptable, innovative, creative to deal with an ever changing world to pass these skills to pupils. #ukedchat RT @HilaryNunns: The next generation will understand the 21st century students! Pedagogy and classroom management #ukedchat @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn #ukedchat I would agree,although perhaps teacher trainees should already be resilient. @davidhunter #ukedchat The point of teaching facts is that it is better than a) teaching lies or b) teaching nothing. #ukedchat also, an awareness of the super speedily changing face of education and how children learn - access to information and harnessing @GeogJo time to reflect on these? #ukedchat #ukedchat so many nqts have no knowledge of how to level or assess.They don't know how to creatively plan unit of work 2 meet needs of class We need to understand that the classroom won't look the same in a few years & for me, my subject won't either (english) #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat Who says it's an "everchanging world"? Plenty of things stay the same. Subject knowledge and behaviour management #ukedchat @Teaching_LMP Ah I see, are you on placement at the minute? How much time have you had in schools so far this year? #ukedchat #ukedchat Missing from many current teacher training courses is confidence in how to deal with discriminatory behaviour/statements #ukedchat how to use your voice. I remember loosing my voice in 1st 2wks of job. It's the best tool we have & we're not shown how to use it @davidhunter @jamesdradburn #ukedchat Perhaps they should but the number who drop out within 5 years would suggest otherwise #ukedchat time to make mistakes (should carry on through out profession. experiementing with teaching! @DepJo at uni we don't get taught directly how to assess as they believe its the schools job #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe No. it's a way of staying sane.#ukedchat @oldandrewuk think of life as facts and skills.facts are easy to get hold of.what is our time better spent teaching? #ukedchat @Mrs_Cosgrove We had voice training at uni during our first couple of weeks. It has been really useful #ukedchat @jamesdradburn Poor communication skills when dealing with parents can make or break an NQT #ukedchat #ukedchat they're not taught how to understand pitch or even lots of numeracy methods like chunking.means they can't get started on teaching RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Missing from many current teacher training courses is confidence in how to deal with discriminatory behaviour/statements @syded06 @davidhunter #ukedchat People have been claiming that since early 20th century. It's not true. Ignorance is still a problem. How do we prioritize between all of these subjects for training when the time is limited? #ukedchat RT @MattFothergill: How to communicate with parents. Hugely important area that

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? needs to be covered #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Just 15 minutes until #ukedchat about 'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?' with @jamesdradburn as host. @joanne_rich @davidhunter definitely! though doing a 4 year BEd course definately helps with resilience #ukedchat #ukedchat What subjects should now be taught? #ukedchat #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! RT @MattFothergill: @jamesdradburn Poor communication skills when dealing with parents can make or break an NQT #ukedchat #ukedchat nqt I'm working with said was not taught anything about teaching phonics, yet this is a key part of how we teach right now @DepJo Should we spend the time teaching nqts assessment systems that are constantly changing? #ukedchat #ukedchat And at Primary level how to work with, and manage, TA's is a skill many seem to struggle with Reminder of #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? RT @ICTwitz: #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! To know what pedagogy underpins their style, what theoretical models challenge and inspires them! To know who they are! #ukedchat @MariamAlhashmi Spend less time on Maths - more time on citizenship?... #ukedchat @BehaviourA #ukedchat What "underlying causes"? The doctrine of original sin? The evolution of human nature? I wonder how 'up to speed' the institutions are with developing pedagogy. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Reminder of #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @joanne_rich how does one teach that? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper We have 120 days over the two placements and I am a month into placement two atm #ukedchat @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn I contend that recruitment criteria too heavily favours TAs.doesnt encourage innovation or resilience #ukedchat @ICTwitz curriculum design is going to become important #ukedchat kind of leadin onto: what would you want to change if you looked back at your own course? #ukedchat RT @DepJo: #ukedchat trainee teachers need subject knowledge of how to teach real things. Experience of planning & teaching guided reading/phonics etc RT @joanne_rich: #ukedchat And at Primary level how to work with, and manage, TA's is a skill many seem to struggle with RT @oldandrewuk: @syded06 @davidhunter #ukedchat People have been claiming that since early 20th century. It's not true. Ignorance is still a problem. RT @ICTwitz #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! < definitely agreed #ukedchat Most important aspects of teaching are to treat children as individuals and care about meeting needs of all. Can this be taught? #ukedchat How to handle confrontation, with both unruly pupils and parents!(unruly or otherwise!) RT @jamesdradburn: kind of leadin onto: what would you want to change if you looked back at your own course? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @DepJo You need to know the current assessments but also have an awareness of how they have changed. #ukedchat @ICTmagic I couldn't agree more. It is very easy as an established teacher to slip into routines. NQTs bring a fresh ideas #ukedchat RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat my take:whats the point in teaching facts?those facts are available at everyone's fingertips.teach how to get there and scrutinise @oldandrewuk @syded06 a great point.but learning facts does not make someone less ignorant #ukedchat Thinking for yourself. Working with others. Standing up for what's right. #ukedchat RT @Andy_s_king: Maths dept looking at getting class set of netbooks/tablets with wifi

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? for new build. Any advice? #ukedchat @JazzieDe I'd argue that that's about selection of the right trainees who are entering the profession for the the right reasons. #ukedchat RT @ICTwitz: #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! As an NQT I'd have liked more training on using my voice effectively - not lost it yet, but how to use it to engage chn more #ukedchat @GeogJo time is a commodity in short supply #ukedchat @MrsGrealis People underestimate how hard it is for an NQT to deal with someone 20 years older than them. #ukedchat Behaviour management, pedagogy and being resilience are some key things turning up in tonights #ukedchat so far. How would you teach this? RT @mberry: Thinking for yourself. Working with others. Standing up for what's right. #ukedchat Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk That might be true, but does being adaptable et al stop you from reflecting on the pass & what stays the same? #ukedchat #ukedchat my question what should/could the new trainee teachers teach me! They always bring new ideas and ways of doing things @MrsGrealis best way to handle confrontation is prevention rather than cure. Create a happy learning environment. #ukedchat @nickotkdIV Most important to teach things that are relevant. Theory is all well & good but very rarely helps in a classroom #ukedchat @joanne_rich Agreed, as an NQT I was clueless to start with about what I could/should expect or ask my TA to do #ukedchat How to juggle 48 thousand balls at the same time and how to carry on when you drop them #ukedchat #ukedchat that teaching is a constant journey of learning for yourself and you can't ever know it all @AliceBakesCakes at my level it really depends on what teachers you have been placed with! #ukedchat @bramleyapplecc "To know who they are!" :) That's not a small request. Do you know Who You Are? #ukedchat #ukedchat - To blur home life and school life through innovative teaching - therefore engaging pupils on their level. RT @AliceBakesCakes: As an NQT I'd have liked more training on using my voice effectively #ukedchat @joanne_rich I agree. Managing and working with TAs, many of whom may be older than the NQT. This needs addressing #ukedchat #ukedchat And how will things change as we appear to be moving away from University based courses and into Teaching Schools etc? @DepJo @Kezmerrelda I'm shocked about that. Where were they trained? #ukedchat #ukedchat cooperative learning pedagogy a must.this is how the world works.chn need to operate this way @MattFothergill #ukedchat I'm the same age as some parents and I'm also a parent, but have never had to deal with parents on a prof level #ukedchat Also missing is comprehensive way to embed teaching about how to live in a sustainable manner - appears to fall between stools Why do we have tables and chairs? Learning? Organisation? Teaching should include change #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 i waas wondering about the importantance of ICT within PGCE/SCITT courses. #ukedchat @mberry @anhalf #ukedchat Also think child psychology is also important, but pedagogy is very neglected! #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask for support when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round. RT @Kezmerrelda: #ukedchat that teaching is a constant journey of learning for

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? yourself and you can't ever know it all @ICTmagic @oldandrewuk are today's teachers more likey to be adaptable? #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: How to juggle 48 thousand balls at the same time and how to carry on when you drop them #ukedchat RT @Kezmerrelda: #ukedchat that teaching is a constant journey of learning for yourself and you can't ever know it all RT @IsobelFeaver: #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask for support when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round. I never knew enough about 'reasonable adjustment' for ADHD, ASD, LD, BESD etc. Should be mandatory #ukedchat #ukedchat Definition of what 'teacher education' and an understanding that you CANNOT train someone to be a teacher. You can educate them @PeterSpencer88 @nickotkdIV But theory should underpin your teaching. Knowing how chn learn means you can plan effectively. #ukedchat @nickotkdIV YES! I think there needs to be a much more modern approach to ITE across the board with ICT & technology! #UKEdchat #21stCent @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king At primary level, also think that Maths skills need improving for teachers. QTS maths test HARDER! #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @ICTmagic @oldandrewuk they should be! #ukedchat #ukedchat in pedagogy, child development, curriculum, learning and teaching, which will culminate in a broad teacher education, @norfolkshine #ukedchat It doesn't help does it?! @jamesdradburn My course was pretty cool. Senior academics involved. Highlight was the philosophy of education elective. #ukedchat #ukedchat how to deal with things when they don't do to plan #ukedchat how to get a work life balance!! #ukedchat full of experiences and knowledge which will prepare them to enter the classroom! RT @IsobelFeaver: #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask for support when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round. RT @HilaryNunns: I never knew enough about 'reasonable adjustment' for ADHD, ASD, LD, BESD etc. Should be mandatory #ukedchat RT @IsobelFeaver: #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask for support when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round. @IsobelFeaver But it all comes back to being in the right school and having the rightt support. This is my problem with GTP. #ukedchat RT @ICTwitz: #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! >>> and that your subject is less important than holistic development @HilaryNunns Absolutely agree - more training for SEN is essential #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @PeterSpencer88 a good knowledge of learning styles #ukedchat @IsobelFeaver @mikeatedji all depends on the support system at the establishment of study #ukedchat #ukedchat they should learn how to teach how to learn. #learningtolearn @ICTmagic yeah i would agree with that look at some of the people who won teaching awards. most of them were creative. #ukedchat #ukedchat behaviour management -no confrontation and always give a choice out withinreason win win with no loss of face on both parts RT @katiejoners: #ukedchat how to get a work life balance!! Time management skills. Some panic and overwork and don't spend time developing skills #ukedchat RT @IsobelFeaver: #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask for support when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round. @emmaannhardy @depjo I would agree, would you teach a variety of assessment methods during degree as schools tend to use various? #ukedchat @katiejoners still tying to figure that one out! :) #ukedchat @joanne_rich @HilaryNunns That's very true... How to teach SENs. My PGCE course was very good at that. #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:13:12 20:13:12 20:13:14 20:13:14 20:13:17 20:13:20 20:13:32 20:13:33 20:13:38 20:13:40 20:13:43 20:13:47 20:13:47 20:14:01 20:14:03 20:14:07 20:14:14 20:14:15 20:14:16 20:14:19 20:14:19 20:14:26 20:14:32 20:14:33 20:14:42 20:14:43 20:14:44 20:14:44 20:14:45 20:14:48 20:15:01 20:15:04 @DepJo @GlynRogers @GeographyCarrie @jamesdradburn @claireothacehe @Teaching_LMP @TalkNQT @sarahepeel @nickotkdIV @DepJo @syded06 @LeeDonaghy @AnnaBakerJones @nickotkdIV @oldandrewuk @emmaannhardy @anhalf @GeographyCarrie @mberry @jamesdradburn @mikeatedji @ICTmagic @DJTom3 @BehaviourA @davidhunter @PhilWheeler1 @PeterSpencer88 @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @Spark_Ed @StuartMaginnis @DepJo

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @joanne_rich #ukedchat agree. Some get bashed down by a more forceful ta & don't get things taught the way they want to #ukedchat many students dont have the energy for teaching as they're bogged down with academic assignments. Focus should be in classroom. @sue25c Agree, there needs to be far more training on behaviour management #ukedchat RT @DJTom3: @ICTmagic yeah i would agree with that look at some of the people who won teaching awards. most of them were creative. #ukedchat @ICTwitz @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king #ukedchat and English tests too - grammar definitely! I didn't understand complex sentences before! ITTs need to be taught that they are still making a difference. It will help on the cold dark lesson planning nights #ukedchat #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of different roles in a school to see where I want my career to go. #ukedchat Sociology. @OmarKettlewell more important then English and Maths #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @kezmerrelda #ukedchat all across England @IsobelFeaver never perfect but we need to keep trying #ukedchat .@ukedchat new teachers need to be taught to explicitly address the language demands of their subjects #ukedchat RT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat RT @TalkNQT: #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of different roles in a school to see where I want my career to go. @super_sixfive #ukedchat Have you seen some of the research into emotional intelligence? It correlates with poor behaviour. @nightzookeeper @depjo I would focus on the ones used by the majority of schools and those 'recommended' by the govt. #ukedchat RT @DKeano1985 RT @katiejoners: #ukedchat how to get a work life balance!! <lol do any of us really manage that!? The most useful academic assignment was the reflective journal... reflection should be a big part of teacher training #ukedchat If I ran the programmes at UoR, I'd introduce dissertations for our third year undergrads. #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @depjo university said they don't teach how to APP etc as its schools job! #ukedchat just the theory @GeographyCarrie Are you sure that is not more productively learnt in the classroom? #ukedchat @jamesdradburn Everyone is an individual, but I think they have to be to survive. Tech/collaboration helps as well, of course #ukedchat @Kezmerrelda yeah thats very true. #ukedchat #ukedchat Yes School based training could be a real concern - replicating what already exists and losing creative approaches #ukedchat in much the same way that were doing here,I would promote development beyond their own school setting RT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @nickotkdIV true & I agree it is essential. But in my experience not enough time's given preparing teachers to teach #ukedchat @nickotkdIV One of the hardest things to do early on, seem to rely on your planning a lot at first. This is all about experience #ukedchat @TalkNQT Great idea - I found I learnt more in my NQT year from watching other lessons. #ukedchat Personalised learning, this would help teachers to better meet the individual needs of each child. But what about resourcing? #ukedchat #ukedchat get the basics right. Building relationships priority, developing subject knowledge, develop pedagogy. @nightzookeeper #ukedchat I think it's more of having understanding of progression & pitch.What does level2 lk like? When is it expected by?

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:15:04 20:15:06 20:15:15 20:15:17 20:15:21 20:15:24 20:15:25 20:15:25 20:15:26 20:15:29 20:15:30 20:15:32 20:15:34 20:15:38 20:15:38 20:15:38 20:15:41 20:15:42 20:15:43 20:15:46 20:15:53 20:15:54 20:15:56 20:15:57 20:15:57 20:16:02 20:16:03 20:16:05 20:16:06 20:16:06 20:16:06 20:16:09 20:16:10 @oldandrewuk @eslweb @Teaching_LMP @mberry @KateDigitalMe @katiejoners @BenRogersOVA @GeographyCarrie @emmaannhardy @nickotkdIV @iampatricia @jamesdradburn @nightzookeeper @TalkNQT @PCampbell91 @PCampbell91 @MissPressie91 @ICTwitz @BenRogersOVA @PCampbell91 @PCampbell91 @BehaviourA @jamesdradburn @KempsterD @PCampbell91 @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @infernaldepart @MissPressie91 @syded06 @benniekara @JoPearce @nightzookeeper

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? #ukedchat New teachers need to know the basic facts of psychology, i.e. the role of knowledge and how to spot snake oil. #ukedchat My worry about school's based training is that you don't get the break to reflect on your teaching practice. RT @StuartMaginnis: #ukedchat get the basics right. Building relationships priority, developing subject knowledge, develop pedagogy. @jamesdradburn Good for them. APP's a bit pants, IMHO. *Not* to be confused with AfL. @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @depjo #ukedchat #ukedchat met many trainee teachers today @Edshow2012 who were interested in social media and esafety. Is this on the teaching courses? @anhalf @dkeano1985 haha I know?! I worked until I went to bed last night?! #ukedchat #depressing @nightzookeeper I agree. Assessment varies so much (and some is better than others). Students need a tool kit #ukedchat @mikeatedji Yes, but needs to be backed up at uni, which I certainly didn't have enough of! #ukedchat RT @GeographyCarrie: @sue25c Agree, there needs to be far more training on behaviour management #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 @emmaannhardy more time in schools? #ukedchat #ukedchat Does this include FE teachers? @GlynRogers Paperwork it a nightmare. Luckily here there is no lap over for assignments and placement #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @depjo Yes I don't remember doing a lot of assessment during my training. #ukedchat How to chill out and get away from school would be a good thing to learn at times! #ukedchat #ukedchat - change the term ITT. You cannot 'train' to be a teacher. (1/4) #ukedchat - change the term ITT. You cannot 'train' to be a teacher. (1/4) #Ukedchat So where did teachers study and what do you think your course could have done better or did well!? @GlynRogers But you need a deep understanding before you get in the classroom!!! #ukedchat RT @anhalf: Longer induction also...2nd and 3rd yr teachers still need supportin #ukedchat (time, ) #ukedchat (2/4) Simple methodology only becomes pedagogy when it has a clear rationale and a theoretical underpinning #ukedchat (3/4) which is only offered by an extensive and thorough inital teacher education that #ukedchat Effective formative assessment/ individualised learning programmes increasingly necessary @ICTmagic I agree #ukedchat #ukedchat Why don't teachers learn about how the brain works at college? A mechanic would know what makes a car go. Should be obligatory. #ukedchat (4/4) allows opportunity for the formulation of your own philosophy of education and the development of your own teaching style. RT @BehaviourA: #ukedchat Yes School based training could be a real concern replicating what already exists and losing creative approaches #ukedchat New teachers need to be told the truth about behaviour, not lies about being nice or making lessons interesting. Blog Post - Using Badges for #digitalstudies http://t.co/o1x3YfjP - #ictcurric #ukedchat RT @TalkNQT: How to chill out and get away from school would be a good thing to learn at times! #ukedchat #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach #UKEdChat new teachers shouldn't just be taught phonics - all teachers should understand developing comprehension in reading any text less emphasis on planning and more on how teaching impacts learning - how to judge learning and adapt planning:developing instinct #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @depjo would be useful to have more practical

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? examples of what constitutes various levels #ukedchat @eslweb so a SCITT type approach may be best? #ukedchat @katiejoners #ukedchat and to realise that you can prioritise life over work sometimes! @jamesdradburn @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Just out of interest what is their line on what it is their job to teach? Every teacher, new&old should remember they're there to make every child the best they can be. Not push them through the 'factory' #ukedchat @joanne_rich @davidhunter @jamesdradburn how many do drop out? #ukedchat #ukedchat New teachers need to know how the bureaucracy works, and what the workload is like. @MissPressie91 I went to Sunderland and generally did a first class job, but the Monday morning lectures were wasted opportunity. #ukedchat @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @depjo I completely agree! #ukedchat Did a study recently. Quite a substantial number of primary teachers don't like having student teachers in their classroom #ukedchat RT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk being horrible & boring lessons always worked for me #ukedchat @eslweb I agree. Also if you are in an unsupportive school if can totally put you off teaching. #ukedchat @JoPearce I (and I think many of my colleagues) usually see it as a Good Thing when students deviate from their plans. #ukedchat Reminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @PCampbell91 Why do you say this? #ukedchat #ukedchat they should ensure that the student teacher knows that no teaching practice can really prepare you for having your own class. #UKEdChat I also think that the basics of cognitive behaviour therapy can help teachers understand how to address difficult behaviours RT @KempsterD: #ukedchat Why don't teachers learn about how the brain works at college? A mechanic would know what makes a car go >> Agreed! @oldandrewuk but then they would never start! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @super_sixfive I've never seen this but I'd be really interested.heard that its a flawed concept #ukedchat any links? @super_sixfive Positive. More emotional intelligence, the worse behaved people are. #ukedchat @GeographyCarrie Behaviour mngment is what new teachers find hardest. You need to get that sorted before you can do the fun stuff #ukedchat @anhalf I think planning for behaviour can be taught and was not something that I was taught in school placements #ukedchat RT @mberry: @JoPearce I (and I think many of my colleagues) usually see it as a Good Thing when students deviate from their plans. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn hosting. Topic: 'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?' RT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach Do you believe there is enough teaching practice? #ukedchat "Trainee teachers should be taught to make a good cup of tea and to know which biscuits to buy for the school" (Friend, A 2012). #ukedchat RT @BenRogersOVA Behaviour mngment is what new teachers find hardest. You need to get that sorted before you can do the fun stuff #ukedchat #ukedchat also worth mentioning investment in 2nd, 3rd year teachers!! @jamesdradburn #ukedchat not saying you can't *teach* those but it's soo better to try them out...only so much theory can actually teach us @jamesdradburn @MattFothergill they should had someome to step in. #ukedchat Study showed that Student Teacher main role in school practice is all about managing the relationship with teacher, not teaching! #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:18:09 20:18:18 20:18:30 20:18:34 20:18:48 20:18:51 20:18:52 20:19 20:19:04 20:19:10 20:19:10 20:19:13 20:19:15 20:19:21 20:19:24 20:19:34 20:19:38 20:19:49 20:19:50 20:19:53 20:19:56 20:19:58 20:20:05 20:20:05 20:20:12 20:20:13 20:20:16 20:20:19 20:20:27 20:20:28 @AliceBakesCakes @PeterSpencer88 @Teachric @davidhunter @anhalf @eslweb @nightzookeeper @BenRogersOVA @oldandrewuk @katiejoners @GeorgeEBlack @MissRead10 @syded06 @Johnnymusictutr @MissPressie91 @GeographyCarrie @DepJo @cherrylkd @anhalf @BenRogersOVA @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe @MissJButt @ingswaddle @MissPressie91 @emmaannhardy @JazzieDe @DepJo @PCampbell91 @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? There needs to be a way of ensuring quality of placements so that NQTs all come out with a good range of experiences #ukedchat @nickotkdIV @emmaannhardy more time before being thrown in at the deep end. CPD courses offer this, PGCE courses don't #ukedchat #ukedchat I would advise all trainee teachers to find another job. #ukedchat no training to deal with parents at present.they are a MAJOR stakeholder. So this. @JoPearce def..planning needs tobe based onprior learning,shd notbe formulaic #ukedchat @sarahepeel Yes, I definitely agree with that. Without reflection, you're simply on a treadmill. #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA what would you put into that tool kit #ukedchat @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat @ICTmagic I didn't criticise being adaptable. Just the belief that what changes is more important than what doesn't. #ukedchat @sue25c @anhalf @dkeano1985 only 10 years until I can manage that then :) haha #promising #ukedchat #ukedchat teachers should be taught that the first year is just the first of many still learning, my teaching changes from year to year. RT @nickotkdIV: RT @TalkNQT: #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of different roles in a school to see where I want my career to go. #ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observe students outside the classroom and how to interact with them #ukedchat Learn more awareness to the effects of bullying eg: how to spot it and deal with it quickly long before it gets out of control. @Teaching_LMP: ITTs need to be taught that they are still making a difference. helps on cold dark lesson planning nights #ukedchat" RETWEET! RT @BenRogersOVA Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat <--- YES!!! @nightzookeeper #ukedchat definitely. How else can you plan pitching at correct level with high expectations? @ICTwitz I love having trainees with me. Learn so much from them, update my skills and pass on my knowledge #ukedchat RT @nightzookeeper @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @depjo would be useful to have more examples of various levels #ukedchat< standard files? @BehaviourA Universities and academics have a very important role in teacher and teaching development #ukedchat @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat Actually it does. Certainly more so than learning lies, which is the only alternative. RT @BenRogersOVA: @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat @ICTmagic Teachers should remember they were once trainees and those coming into their class would value their support + advice #ukedchat #ukedchat the chance to observe, talk to, and eavesdrop on the excellent and experienced - which is difficult in rush of modern school "@TalkNQT: #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of different roles in a school to see where I want my career to go." RETWEET @BenRogersOVA @GeographyCarrie I found the reflective journal from ''leading from the Middle' really effective. #ukedchat #ukedchat Prepare next generation for a a profession that is more difficult than it looks, more time in schools, shadow outstanding teachers @mberry #ukedchat I agree app doesn't need to be taught. The national curriculum levels will do! ;-) @mikeatedji #ukedchat (1/3) No one teaches the same. Every child is different, every teacher is different, every school is different. @BenRogersOVA @claireothacehe @GeographyCarrie hence why I use my blog! http://t.co/mt0LIzJl #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:20:35 20:20:39 20:20:42 20:20:44 20:20:48 20:20:50 20:20:51 20:20:55 20:21 20:21:01 20:21:01 20:21:02 20:21:07 20:21:14 20:21:14 20:21:15 20:21:26 20:21:31 20:21:42 20:21:46 20:21:51 20:21:53 20:21:54 20:21:55 20:21:59 20:21:59 20:22:05 20:22:06 20:22:08 20:22:13 20:22:16 20:22:17 @PCampbell91 @emmaannhardy @madlizz @joanne_rich @PCampbell91 @ICTwitz @oldandrewuk @anhalf @BenRogersOVA @SteveThursby @KateDigitalMe @davidhunter @DepJo @Teaching_LMP @PCampbell91 @AliceBakesCakes @oldandrewuk @GeorgeEBlack @emmaannhardy @KempsterD @ICTwitz @madlizz @davidhunter @MissPressie91 @nickotkdIV @GlynRogers @nightzookeeper @SteveThursby @GeographyCarrie @susanbanister @KateDigitalMe @agarridodiez

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @mikeatedji #ukedchat (2/3) 'Training' infers there is a formula, a set way, whereas it takes study, reflection, application, @Johnnymusictutr Not just from pupils. #ukedchat @nickotkdIV #ukedchat in Coventry there is special CPD for teachers in 2nd year. Good for networking, sharing ideas and experiences. @BenRogersOVA @geographycarrie #ukedchat Agree that reflective practice is incredibly important - concerns over time for that in SCITT @mikeatedji #ukedchat (3/3) more reflection, and a continuous process of think, apply and reflect. right from the early phase of ITE. @cherrylkd Good to hear. Having a good trainee is fantastic. Having a poor one is hard work #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat Life isn't facts and skills. Most skills require knowledge. All mental skills are mainly based on knowledge. RT @BenRogersOVA @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat < love this RT @PCampbell91: #ukedchat (4/4) allows opportunity for the formulation of your own philosophy of education and the development of your own teaching style. @MattFothergill Also need to help parents communicate with their children, set boundaries and be consistent. #ukedchat #ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generation of users - and teach them how to stay safe at the same time @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn 50% I think #ukedchat @anhalf #ukedchat archived? ;-) RT @KateDigitalMe: #ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generation of users - and teach them how to stay safe at the same time RT @KateDigitalMe: #ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generation of users - and teach them how to stay safe at the same time @OmarKettlewell Tough. I had a nightmare and retook, but know if I'd scraped a pass I'd have been totally unprepared! #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @claireothacehe #ukedchat There's nothing sane about being positive about poor behaviour. #ukedchat Also to embrace and try as many new ways of teaching things as possible. @PeterSpencer88 @nickotkdIV I did a PGCE, It was effective. Most don't take students unless they already have school experience #ukedchat Like any good learner, student teachers should be allwd to make mistakes, take risks and be creative. Ban the 3 prt lssn nonsense! #ukedchat @GlynRogers Agreed. When students enter school, that should be the sole focus, reflecting on uni-based work #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat I agree! There also need to be consistency between training providers so all have the same targets and support @oldandrewuk @syded06 I am not suggesting that children do not learn knowledge.that is preposterous #ukedchat RT @DepJo: #ukedchat trainee teachers need subject knowledge of how to teach real things. Experience of planning & teaching guided reading/phonics etc @madlizz there is in Leicester, it is just not on at convenient times (week after Chrsitmas etc) #ukedchat RT @BenRogersOVA: @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @eslweb It is a real shame when that happens. Saw a few of my fellow teachers go through that during PGCE #ukedchat @BehaviourA And teach parents how to manage their child's behaviour too #ukedchat @joanne_rich Perhaps time needs to be made for it? Reflection time built into timetable... or is that too prescriptive? #ukedchat @KempsterD I agree #ukedchat #ukedchat see http://t.co/Hub6dZU3 for free resources on social networking for trainee and long in the tooth teachers too @davidhunter: #ukedchat cooperative learning pedagogy a must.this is how the world works.chn need to operate this way agree. #edchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:22:24 20:22:34 20:22:37 20:22:38 20:22:39 20:22:44 20:22:45 20:22:46 20:22:48 20:22:58 20:23:07 20:23:08 20:23:11 20:23:27 20:23:31 20:23:34 20:23:36 20:23:37 20:23:38 20:23:38 20:23:39 20:23:42 20:23:51 20:23:53 20:23:59 20:23:59 20:24:11 20:24:15 20:24:16 20:24:25 20:24:27 @ICTmagic @andyjordon @oldandrewuk @benniekara @Starshine_Music @OmarKettlewell @Teaching_LMP @GeekPeter @nickotkdIV @KempsterD @eslweb @nightzookeeper @AliceBakesCakes @smurfatik @Kezmerrelda @DepJo @mberry @Romaaddict @GeorgeEBlack @emmaannhardy @OmarKettlewell @DKeano1985 @joclap89 @oldandrewuk @GeographyCarrie @anhalf @eslweb @madlizz @mikeatedji @IsobelFeaver @GeorgeEBlack

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @MissJButt I completely agree. Every time I have a SCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in my class I learn so much. #ukedchat RT @syded06: #ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observe students outside the classroom and how to interact with them @BehaviourA @claireothacehe #ukedchat Well, bad behaviour should be treated negatively. Trying to change it by being nice is appeasement. #UKEdChat what if we trained teachers in the psychology of resilience - might help understand the difficulties of that first year? @jackieschneider grr got delayed. Have I missed chat about music? #ukedchat #ukedchat Practice makes perfect!!! Sorry all. Going to have to step away. I'll check back on the archives though. Keep it up! #ukedchat RT @ingswaddle: #ukedchat the chance to observe, talk to, and eavesdrop on the excellent and experienced - which is difficult in rush of modern school RT @ICTmagic: @MissJButt I completely agree. Every time I have a SCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in my class I learn so much. #ukedchat RT @GeographyCarrie RT @BenRogersOVA Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat <--- YES!!! > Reflective people surely ;-) #ukedchat I also think there is a place for team teaching. But not many teachers know how to do this effectively. @eslweb It would be more beneficial at the beginning of your course to observe a greater variety of teachers in the classroom #ukedchat @madlizz Yes, Me and my yr grp partner are both NQTs from diff. unis, and both of us had completely different experiences! #ukedchat read recently that NQTs reported lack of training to support needs of ESL students as 1 of main concerns about ITT #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat I agree we are always learning and you never know it all ever! But you always worry you should! @jamesdradburn #ukedchat do you attend uni full time or could you get into schools any more? @GeographyCarrie Need to be able to reflect with others too, I think. Not all schools are the same. Facebook helps #ukedchat @joanne_rich #ukedchat Am I allowed to mention basic accuracy? Can't believe the glaring errors on some teachers' worksheets and school websites! #ukedchat they should be taught to take a few risks and let the students lead the learning. @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe I use positive behaviour strategies - they do work, but pupils need to know when they cross the line. #ukedchat #ukedchat I think there needs to be a diversity of experience coming into tching. Esp in primary. Pupils can get so much more out of it! @katiejoners @sue25c 5 years in I can see the light but fixtures continue to make it a dream #ukedchat #one day as a current trainee teacher and rep for the PGCE course I'd appreciate any of ideas too #ukedchat @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You did, however, suggest they shouldn't learn facts. Hard to see one existing without the other. @mberry And twitter!! #ukedchat RT @nickotkdIV RT @ICTmagic: @MissJButt I agree. Evry time I have a SCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in my class I learn so much. #ukedchat< me too @nightzookeeper Sunderland were pretty good at that, we got to see a really good range of teachers including Primary #ukedchat @nickotkdIV #ukedchat can't remember when ours was.Was in school time tho.Week after christmas is ok...can implement new ideas in new term! #ukedchat Am I in a minority of 1 thinking there is insufficient emphasis on ed for sustainable development in ITE? @emmaannhardy #ukedchat True support from Management can create opportunities from the most mundane situations. #ukedchat also never ever try to blag your way through something you don't know. Teenagers can detect BS at a 150 paces.

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:24:30 20:24:36 20:24:41 20:24:43 20:24:49 20:24:50 20:24:51 20:24:52 20:24:54 20:24:56 20:24:58 20:25:04 20:25:10 20:25:19 20:25:26 20:25:28 20:25:33 20:25:34 20:25:34 20:25:43 20:25:46 20:25:47 20:25:49 20:25:51 20:26:12 20:26:14 20:26:22 20:26:31 20:26:39 20:26:40 20:26:41 @DepJo @RachaelHKnight @jamesdradburn @PCampbell91 @OmarKettlewell @joanne_rich @claireothacehe @MrWickensPE @SteveThursby @oldandrewuk @eslweb @mberry @BehaviourA @JazzieDe @BenRogersOVA @GeorgeEBlack @syded06 @MrWickensPE @DepJo @jamesdradburn @oldandrewuk @nightzookeeper @benniekara @stevewn @jamesdradburn @OmarKettlewell @madlizz @BenRogersOVA @DepJo @super_sixfive @KempsterD

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @emmaannhardy #ukedchat absolutely and not all good teachers are good at supporting trainees @jamesdradburn Take advantage of course finishing in may/june and get into a school #ukedchat Kids camp / playscheme etc good too @DepJo I attend full time but I have taken experiences to visit Czech and America to teach #ukedchat @MrWickensPE #ukedchat I actually reckon the first step would be getting the technology so everyone has fair access! Painful in some schools #ukedchat Preparing pupils for 21st century http://t.co/dfTloggw #ukedchat How about 'supervision' sessions much like those used in Social Services on a regular basis and not just for NQT year? @oldandrewuk #ukedchat yes but you do need to have a positive approach, be a role model of your pos. expectations and use pos. reinforcement @jamesdradburn need to stop students coming straight out of Uni with no/little experience. Should have job before teacher training #ukedchat @teshelen Getting the balance right is of utmost importance and a real art #ukedchat @BehaviourA #ukedchat That which corresponds to reality. Of course, you could deny this but then I'd ask whether your denial was true. @mikeatedji Could you tell me more about this? #ukedchat @GeographyCarrie Ah, Twitter. Yes, I've heard of that ;-) FB good for sharing with own community, Twitter for the wider network. #ukedchat #ukedchat @oldandrewuk 'Bad' behaviour / attention seeking is always for a reason. Unless cause adressed doesn't go away.Supressed maybe #ukedchat@JamesAbela @sarapeel But that is the reality isn't it.I sometimes feel I will fall off treadmill so definately teach how to pause RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat they should be taught to take a few risks and let the students lead the learning. #ukedchat no BS, if you don't know then don't try and blag it. #ukedchat Trainee really need more than the hour allocated to mentors!!! @jamesdradburn I know of too many people not going into teaching after PGCE because of little experience before. #ukedchat #ukedchat behaviour management real strategies are a definite need on teacher training. Not just theory. How to deal with challenging chdn @MrWickensPE hence why I am going to America and Czech to teach and get life experience #ukedchat @super_sixfive @BehaviourA #ukedchat Ah, it's all an excuse for blaming teachers? Should have seen that coming. @emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe does anyone use Class Dojo? Has it been a successful behaviour management tool? #ukedchat @Romaaddict: #ukedchat Can't believe the glaring errors on teachers' worksheets and school websites! < agreed! #ukedchat my pre-PGCE experience was a year doing RE lessons, Assemblies and Residentials as a charity intern...many mistakes, learnt alot! What good/bad practice have you seen from NQTs that you want to be promoted or eradicated at University? #ukedchat @JanieT56 I just turned it off! Changed my mind!!. I need to give it time. Marked in #ukedchat though. @AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat & prob were set diff targets & everything! A GTP student at sch atm had final tutor visit last wk...seems early! The toughest lesson to learn is resilience. How many of us cried in the toilets during our training? #ukedchat @anhalf #ukedchat good while they lasted?! ;-) Who knows what comes next? I hear govnt is considering abolishing levels all together?!! RT @BehaviourA: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk 'Bad' behaviour / attention seeking is always for a reason. Unless cause adressed doesn't go away.Supressed maybe All students need to hear and learn from a wide variety of sources and formulate their ideas about learning. #ukedchat #wrrdboutteachingscls

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:26:44 20:26:48 20:26:49 20:26:54 20:26:55 20:27:05 20:27:10 20:27:11 20:27:15 20:27:16 20:27:18 20:27:20 20:27:22 20:27:24 20:27:26 20:27:30 20:27:35 20:27:44 20:27:48 20:27:51 20:27:51 20:27:55 20:27:56 20:28:04 20:28:09 20:28:13 20:28:19 20:28:21 20:28:22 20:28:22 20:28:22 @mikeatedji @ICTwitz @HaudIgnota @IsobelFeaver @PCampbell91 @Little_Sparra @BenRogersOVA @mattpearson @susanbanister @GeographyCarrie @emmaannhardy @mikeatedji @DKeano1985 @BehaviourA @AliceBakesCakes @raisechildrens @McGuinness1 @mattpearson @JustAddH2Otv @DJTom3 @madlizz @OmarKettlewell @DepJo @MrAColley @BehaviourA @nickotkdIV @emmaannhardy @davidhunter @mberry @benniekara @susanbanister

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? #ukedchat How to get beyond platitudes of recycling and anto littering and switching off lights...many different points of intervention #ukedchat Uni of Glasgow are trying a 'teaching hospital' method of training student teachers for PGC(D)E's. Jury is out! RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat also never ever try to blag your way through something you don't know. Teenagers can detect BS at a 150 paces. @syded06 #ukedchat If I required perfection from my pupils I would require it from myself. Dedication, motivation and commitment are key. #ukedchat Creativity, innovation, failure, success, critical, flexible, relevant, sustainable, networking, cross sector, collaborative. #ukedchat To listen to the children, talk with the children, not at them, laugh with them, sing with them, know them. @GeorgeEBlack I don't know if I agree with that! Creative blagging is an art. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Reminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @DepJo @emmaannhardy Many teachers seem to forget what it was like to be a trainee. #notwelcomingorsupportive #ukedchat Our current trainees in English/ICT not had any experience in running trips, unlike geographers...should ALL trainees get this? #ukedchat @DepJo Agreed - but not just for trainees, we should all not be scared to ask for advice and learn from others. #ukedchat @eslweb Getting beyond platitudes of recycling and anto littering and switching off lights...many different points of intervention #ukedchat @MrWickensPE totally agree experience of real life is key. Too many students struggling from my experiences #ukedchat RT @DepJo: #ukedchat behaviour management real strategies are a definite need on teacher training. Not just theory. How to deal with challenging chdn @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn I disagree, on my PGCE it was those who had had other jobs (unless in schools) who found it hardest #ukedchat #ukedchat I also think students should teach in a variety of contexts, inner city, leafy lane, SEN, as well as primary/secondary. RT @thosethatcan: @ukedchat to see their well being as CPD #ukedchat the next generation of teachers need to be taught to largely ignore anything which politicians say about education #ukedchat Any teachers in south-west want to show off their skills in #STEMFactor.Will train and motivate, just need enthusiasm and courage #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @MattFothergill ok was that the teacher you work with at school? ok thats good it went well. #ukedchat @nickotkdIV but we always want to be in class! Have to prioritise sometimes. #ukedchat RT @Little_Sparra: #ukedchat To listen to the children, talk with the children, not at them, laugh with them, sing with them, know them. @jamesdradburn #ukedchat just a thought but do yr local church or Catholic schls have different hols? Could build up work experience there? I'd teach how to plan, obs & feedback collaboratively. Very useful to make time to do this regardless of experience. #ukedchat @joanne_rich great idea but expensive #ukedchat RT @mattpearson the next generation of teachers need to be taught to largely ignore anything which politicians say about education #ukedchat @DepJo @anhalf and putting in a completely prescriptive set of objectives to taught at each year = new 'levels' #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @syded06 should I spend my time teaching the river system or enabling chn to discver and criticise each others views? #ukedchat @ukedchat Not sure it should be taught but I think it important that trainee/all teachers remember what it was like to be a child. #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA I believe the same thing - it is a skill/quality that is often overlooked and very much tested throughout career #UKEdChat @mberry @GeographyCarrie Twitter what??.. Doubt that will take off ;) #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:28:26 20:28:27 20:28:34 20:28:34 20:28:42 20:28:45 20:28:48 20:28:49 20:28:51 20:28:52 20:28:57 20:29 20:29:11 20:29:13 20:29:15 20:29:17 20:29:23 20:29:25 20:29:25 20:29:28 20:29:34 20:29:36 20:29:42 20:29:44 20:29:47 20:29:50 20:29:50 20:29:51 20:29:53 20:29:56 20:29:58 20:30:07 @ICTwitz @joanne_rich @SteveThursby @nickotkdIV @jamesdradburn @DepJo @hembick @eslweb @mikeatedji @MrWickensPE @syded06 @claireothacehe @BehaviourA @raisechildrens @BehaviourA @AliceBakesCakes @PCampbell91 @catchkitey @Little_Sparra @davidhunter @nickotkdIV @trisha_telfer @jrussellteacher @Kezmerrelda @AnnaBakerJones @jamesdradburn @nightzookeeper @madlizz @MrWickensPE @joanne_rich @BenRogersOVA @snapshotscience

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @Romaaddict #ukedchat Completely agree. It is scary! I cringe when I see teachers get we're/where/were wrong, even on twitter :-s Shame! @BenRogersOVA Absolutely - I raised that earlier - surely teaching resilience is key to reducing the drop out rate? #ukedchat @jasonelsom Very interesting. I wonder if Dutch universities offer post grad distance learning? #ukedchat @madlizz hehe! True! #ukedchat @madlizz @nickotkdIV I find that problem on placement! just wanting to be in the class #ukedchat observing other is essential for CPD @joanne_rich #ukedchat interesting! "@ukedchat: Reminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?" > DON'T DO IT!! @mikeatedji You really mean it in an environmental context. I'd like to think most university students have a decent idea already #ukedchat @PCampbell91 Fair enough - Although I don't infer that from 'training' ... more akin to trialling and learning #ukedchat @jamesdradburn That sounds like a great move. What age? #ukedchat @IsobelFeaver Absolutely and it's tougher with all the paperwork/targets etc #ukedchat #ukedchat my 2 PGCE students are struggling the most with planning -I forget all the elements that go into it that you have to learn! RT @syded06: #ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observe students outside the classroom and how to interact with them #ukedchat I learned loads from doing six months of supply before having my own class, invaluable paid experience in many diff contexts. RT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach @madlizz Yes, different expectations in terms of teaching time, what level of teaching constituted a pass, evidence needed #ukedchat @mikeatedji #ukedchat As with anything, it's down to interpretation and opinion. @AliceBakesCakes true... but the best kinds of experiences are 'on the job' as EVERY clas ive ever had (20 yrs) has been different #ukedchat #ukedchat Appreciate the TA's, they know the kids on a whole different level & can support you in supporting them. @SteveIredale @Kathrinedavies @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king you are ipad I take it? How many you have? Proxy issues? #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @madlizz we do Video caoching where you video lesson then all can see it. Less pressure #ukedchat @OmarKettlewell #ukedchat That is inevitable Omar surely? It's opportunities to show/celebrate this diversity of experience that we need... @ukedchat http://t.co/yO87aqHB and http://t.co/Ut4eiCp4 #ukedchat #edchat @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn #ukedchat agree that good teachers tend to have done something else first job wise experience of life important #ukedchat I'm starting PGCE Sept 2013 but already in my 2nd year of volunteering as much time in school(s) as I can. Be prepared!!! @MrWickensPE primary (which I am doing) - I am getting stuck into everything at uni like this to develop as a person #ukedchat @claireothacehe @emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk Yeah I have looked at it but am yet to use it. Let me know how it goes #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV have to make the most of obs of other teachers...doesn't happen much once past 2nd yr #ukedchat Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link teacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat @BehaviourA Very and time heavy but if we're moving away from Uni based courses then probably essential #ukedchat RT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach New blog post on space elevators, teaching ideas for chem & phys:http://t.co/UuGS1Sl7 #asechat #scichat #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:30:07 20:30:09 20:30:12 20:30:12 20:30:18 20:30:21 20:30:23 20:30:37 20:30:46 @DepJo @nickotkdIV @mberry @GeographyCarrie @mikeatedji @davidhunter @emmaannhardy @jamesdradburn @susanbanister

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Agree completely! @jamesdradburn @madlizz also you can edit it to show best parts #ukedchat very postive CPD and very quick! @claireothacehe Do you think the HEI makes the planning paperwork too complex? #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn The pple who did best on our PGCE had other jobs first/more life experience #ukedchat @eslweb Not in my experience, but you may be right. It does not translate sufficiently into practice in schools though #ukedchat @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn terrible waste of money.maybe taking people at 18 is a bad idea. #ukedchat @DepJo @joanne_rich they are introducing 'coaching' which I think is a similar idea. #ukedchat @MrWickensPE really depends on the class teacher. I have been ignored by my teacher for my first week before #ukedchat @mberry @ukedchat I would be disappointed if they didn't #ukedchat Let me save you some serious planning headaches, here's one I made earlier http://t.co/Mr6szfoD Covers everything under the sun. #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat exactly! Yet we level chn by all the same APP criteria...should be the same for trainees aside from the stds. @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat both! #ukedchat RT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach #UKEdChat all trainee teachers should be made to watch The Mighty Ducks. Now that is a lesson in leadership of children! #teachingfilms RT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link teacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat #ukedchat shadowing the CP officer in the school will certainly open ITT students eyes to the real problems that get mopped up by schools RT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat @BehaviourA @syded06 Trips are a great way of getting to know students better. The pressure of getting through the lesson is gone. #ukedchat @susanbanister @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Yes it's just like learner drivers.. We all were one but all drive impatiently behind them moaning! @hembick @ukedchat Shouldn't it be what COULD & SHOULD be taught to older more experienced teachers?Wht can new generation provide?#ukedchat #ukedchat When reading to the class, don't rush the story! Take your time! Catch the eyes of the children, make them part of the story! @OmarKettlewell @hembick @ukedchat Don't get @oldandrewuk started! #ukedchat #ukedchat in general... Take risks and try something new. Specifically whilst teaching talk less. Question more. RT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link teacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat Not sure how to teach this, but flexibility & dealing w uncertainty. Just as you get the hang of teaching a course they change it! #ukedchat Just arrived a few mins ago - anyone been talking about music in teacher training programmes? #ukedchat #ukedchat Too many student teachers/nqts know lots about teaching but very little about learning. @mikeatedji It's important, but this should be taught AT school AND university before teaching practice. #ukedchat @nickotkdIV @jamesdradburn shouldn't be pressure from a peer obs...both parties can learn and help. Should happen more! #ukedchat @Starshine_Music lack of music.. #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:32:12 20:32:17 20:32:21 20:32:23 20:32:25 20:32:26 20:32:34 20:32:38 20:32:42 20:32:42 20:32:47 20:32:48 20:32:50 20:32:53 20:33:02 20:33:08 20:33:10 20:33:10 20:33:11 20:33:15 20:33:17 20:33:17 20:33:21 20:33:23 20:33:27 20:33:33 20:33:40 20:33:44 20:33:44 20:33:48 20:33:58 @susanbanister @claireothacehe @emmaannhardy @OmarKettlewell @GlynRogers @Starshine_Music @MrWickensPE @IsobelFeaver @syded06 @jamesdradburn @AnnaBakerJones @KempsterD @claireothacehe @Ramsay71 @Costa_Man1 @nightzookeeper @MariamAlhashmi @PCampbell91 @mberry @mikeatedji @GeorgeEBlack @jamesdradburn @madlizz @susanbanister @JazzieDe @GraciousWolf_PE @mberry @GraciousWolf_PE @Lynnewin100 @emmaannhardy @IsobelFeaver

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? The next generation of teachers should just try what they feel is right. Don't let older disillusioned teachers grind you down #ukedchat @mberry #ukedchat it's more all the elements you need to include, other adults, diff., home learning links etc. it's a lot at first! @jamesdradburn @MrWickensPE There are some truly horrible stories. This is again why I prefer teacher training institutions. #ukedchat @trisha_telfer #ukedchat Correct. I was in skl with 1 BEd tchr. The rest were post grads with completely diff backgrounds 1/2 #ukedchat developing interpersonal skills so important for teaching. 'Emotional intelligence' vital for successful career Or performing arts generally in teacher training? #ukedchat @PCampbell91 Hence why too many hurdles to jump over. Teachers are too scared of social media. #ukedchat @Johnnymusictutr @mattpearson #ukedchat If they are devoted trainees they won't have time or energy to bother listening to politicians. Too much educational theory not enough application #ukedchat what do people think about #BEDplacement being in pairs on teaching placement! #ukedchat #ukedchat I also worked for a decade as a senior exec in big company so hope I won't be wet behind the ears. RT @Ste_kins: #ukedchat in general... Take risks and try something new. Specifically whilst teaching - talk less. Question more. @mberry #ukedchat I suppose it also depends on how rigorous the paperwork expectations are or if you can use your own ideas @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link tutor does not feel comfortable #ukedchat #EPS2UOGThemeWeek RT @JamiePortman: RT @KempsterD: #ukedchat Why don't teachers learn about how the brain works at college? A mechanic would know what makes a car go >> Agreed! @MrAColley do you think teachers have collaborative time in their timetabled week? Difficult sometimes to get out of own class #ukedchat New teachers need to start every school day by reminding themselves: "mistakes are wonderful opportunities to learn" #ukedchat @MrWickensPE Yeah, they should have experience in school before entry. Usually uni requirement for ITE. Thought you meant any job! #ukedchat @Ste_kins Questions are more important than answers. From both teachers and learners. #ukedchat #ukedchat It's striking how few trainee teachers are prepared for dealing with racist/homophobic incidents - the conversations as to HOW @BenRogersOVA blagging when you have only planned half a lesson is different from blagging your way through postmodernist theory.#ukedchat @syded06 but application can only surely be gained through TP? #ukedchat @Jen_Kaye82 @jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV I'd say that's important advice for trainees...get into as many classrooms as poss! #ukedchat @DepJo @emmaannhardy Ah but we are in our cars not in front of their faces ;) #ukedchat #ukedchat @claireothacehe I haven't looked at our PGCE's planning her practice is outstanding, children motivated, learning, enjoying RT @syded06: Too much educational theory not enough application #ukedchat RT @JazzieDe: #ukedchat @claireothacehe I haven't looked at our PGCE's planning her practice is outstanding, children motivated, learning, enjoying RT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link teacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat Oooh #ukedchat I don't think I missed it, what's going on? Where are u all at with collaborations/ federations etc? #leadership @IsobelFeaver @Johnnymusictutr @mattpearson I do think you need to keep uptodate - join a union would be my advice and get active! #ukedchat @hembick @ukedchat #ukedchat Teach an ability to embrace and explore changing methods whist not chucking babies out with bath water.

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:34:12 20:34:12 20:34:15 20:34:16 20:34:24 20:34:37 20:34:37 20:34:39 20:34:41 20:34:42 20:34:42 20:34:50 20:34:53 20:34:53 20:34:54 20:35:04 20:35:05 20:35:15 20:35:15 20:35:16 20:35:22 20:35:42 20:35:45 20:35:48 20:35:50 20:35:54 20:36:02 20:36:12 20:36:13 20:36:13 20:36:17 20:36:20 20:36:31 @DepJo @mikeatedji @mberry @thechrissyt @nightzookeeper @MrAColley @AnnaBakerJones @AliceBakesCakes @McGuinness1 @OmarKettlewell @KempsterD @MrWickensPE @oldandrewuk @EmSnaps @GeorgeEBlack @claireothacehe @BehaviourA @eslweb @thechrissyt @GeorgeEBlack @alexgingell @raisechildrens @eslweb @mikeatedji @jamesdradburn @SheliBB @IsobelFeaver @susanbanister @ICTmagic @DJTom3 @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @mberry

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @jamesdradburn @starshine_music #ukedchat that is also common.. Unfortunately @eslweb But the same could be said of maths skills. Knowing how to add isn't the same as being able to teach it #ukedchat @syded06 so which bits of the theory ought we to skip? #ukedchat @GraciousWolf_PE #ukedchat having recently qualified, I wish I had known more about the government stance on teaching... @jamesdradburn @Starshine_Music does that extend to other creative subjects? #ukedchat @nightzookeeper Not in my exp, but I've used it as part of INSET courses and staff have got loads from it. Hard to find time tho. #ukedchat #ukedchat give children plenty of reflection time - don't rush them. Encourage positive risk taking. On my PGCE we had to video ourselves teaching then watch as a group. Single most useful session. #ukedchat I'm a current PGCE student, stifled by archaic transmitter-receiver lessons. I want to take risks, I'm prepared to fight for that! #ukedchat @MariamAlhashmi Yes - completely agree - It's the best way to learn!! #ukedchat @susanbanister too right Susan. They can get you down and start you in he same mindset. Usually poor leadership. #ukedchat @jamesdradburn That's why you should be allowed to take these risks. The 'steep learning curve' part of teaching. #ukedchat @BehaviourA @super_sixfive #ukedchat http://t.co/O37xS3gh New teachers should hold onto the reason they entered education: children. Easy to lose sight of this because of external factors #ukedchat #ukedchat teaching should be learner focused and trainees should be taught to enable. @JazzieDe #ukedchat I think there's a link there though - planning, teaching, reflecting and repeat - success feeds success RT @raisechildrens: #ukedchat I also think students should teach in a variety of contexts, inner city, leafy lane, SEN, as well as primary/secondary. @mikeatedji It terms of pedagogy it falls under the behaviour category and the more help you can get with that the better ;) #ukedchat #ukedchat agree with it or not, it is what governs us and is crucial to the way we are allowed to teach. RT @AliceBakesCakes: On my PGCE we had to video ourselves teaching then watch as a group. Single most useful session. #ukedchat @MariamAlhashmi think all teachers should do this! :-) #ukedchat #ukedchat I did six months of supply teaching and worked in a variety of diff contextsall paid. Best teaching practice ever! @AliceBakesCakes @GeorgeEBlack I found this really useful too. Lot of teachers don't want to do it. #ukedchat #ukedchat Much more emphasis should also be given to teaching about the global dimension and not just for Geography teachers How can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be the best that they can be? #ukedchat Join in a very mini #DLchat tonight after #ukedchat for digital leader news @mberry But then without an answer in the first place, how can you question it? #ukedchat chicken and egg @thechrissyt Why? It'll change tomorrow..l #ukedchat RT @jamesdradburn: How can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be the best that they can be? #ukedchat @davidhunter @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn but then dont have that with most courses. #ukedchat @alexgingell what tips would you give trainee teachers? #ukedchat @thechrissyt You're not alone. I get a lot of support from the #NUT - like minded people etc #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes we have our first years doing this as a T&L assignment, then

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? recording a reflective commentary #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack @davidhunter @IsobelFeaver @syded06 #ukedchat People have been saying that for over 100 years. Why should we believe it this time? #ukedchat am in 1st yr of PGCE/2nd in teaching. PGCE could inc behaviour mgt, and demonstrate more teaching practices/resources Allow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. It should be a 'steep learning curve'. #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: Join in a very mini #DLchat tonight after #ukedchat for digital leader news @MrWickensPE @pcampbell91 but some of us are beginning to shift that and make the most of the opportunities #ukedchat #ukedchat Signing off. Exhausted! Will be collating the tweets from the hashtag to share after tonight via @cpdstrathclyde RT @jamesdradburn: How can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be the best that they can be? #ukedchat Subject knowledge alone will not be enough to cope with teaching #ukedchat @LouiseC0586 agree but more emphasis on learning rather than teaching. #ukedchat #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes hope I get to do that during my PGCE - sounds really helpful :) @eslweb Ah, I think it goes way beyond the behaviour category, perhaps we agree to disagree #ukedchat maybe I'm just lazy, but I wish I was taught to pick my battles #ukedchat eventually I learned that is they were working, then an untucked.. @emmaannhardy Fair point, if you have the time!#ukedchat @BehaviourA Increasingly? These are a given for me! #ukedchat @KempsterD Change schools and it can change your career and opportunities. Ask@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat How do we teach pupils?We let them do it themselves & try to minimally guide them. Should it not be the same for student teachers? #ukedchat #ukedchat @susanbanister I know, but when you enter teaching and hear about "the cycles of it" you start off the profession a tad clueless! @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn plenty of school leavers taking bachelors.would be int to see their % dropout #ukedchat over half way through #ukedchat- alot of ideas already about what trainee teachers should be! but how do you achieve it all? @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn Ah, that I agree with. Yes, experience in schools, even voluntary or as an MSA (I did in uni hols) #ukedchat #ukedchat... an untucked shirt really didn't matter. #ukedchat Save as much money as you can before the course, sleep, know subject and tell everybody your social life is on hold for a year. RT @madlizz: @jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV have to make the most of obs of other teachers...doesn't happen much once past 2nd yr #ukedchat @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You should teach the best of all that has been thought and known. RT @eslweb: #ukedchat Save as much money as you can before the course, sleep, know subject and tell everybody your social life is on hold for a year. @McGuinness1 good teachers should take risks - well done and keep taking them #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes I saw myself teaching on vid for the first time the other day, it was very interesting. Easy to spot improvements #ukedchat @syded06 I suspect most of it is these days. At least, it seems to be here. #ukedchat @jamesdradburn make the most of all opportunities available to you at uni, observe others as much as pos., take risks... #ukedchat #ukedchat lessons in appropriate levels of sarcasm and conversly how to praise so it matters. @AnnaBakerJones I'd do it anyway! I only got the opportunity because I retook a placement, was a bit weird, but so useful! #ukedchat #UKEdChat That teaching is a lot like driving. Just because you've passed the theory

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? test doesn't mean you can do it properly yet. @jamesdradburn #ukedchat pairs is good for peer assessment but I think one student per class is enough! -class teacher can provide support. I still think if I end up working away from education I'd still keep an eye on #ukedchat. Great CPD. #ukedchat @McGuinness1 Go for it, take your risks and thy will pay off! New teachers should be encouraged to go to http://t.co/vx6JMOOU (ok, shameless plug, sorry!) #ukedchat Are powerpoint lessons what we or kids want to see? Learning requires an element of risk. Old skool is our safety net not #ukedchat I would like to see much more understanding about Primary for Secondary teachers and vice versa. Would be invaluable later. #ukedchat #ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you are learning ALL the time. #ukedchat Develop a think skin, embrace every opportunity given to you, talk to as many teachers as possible... @GeorgeEBlack Picking your battles is very important, with the kids and with slt! #ukedchat @MariamAlhashmi Completely - this is how pupils learn. It is no different for student teachers or anybody else for that matter.1/2 #ukedchat risk taking it a central theme tonight! how can you support/encourage trainee's to take risks? #ukedchat @emmaannhardy @claireothacehe #ukedchat Going to need more than that. Appeasement does work temporarily. RT @RantingTa: #ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you are learning ALL the time. @MrWickensPE #ukedchat Learning from mistakes yes- but at what cost to students? Sometimes behaviour/relations will be ruined all yr @IsobelFeaver Some questions never get answered. Learners spend too much time answering questions & rarely get chance to ask own. #ukedchat @DKeano1985 A few slides OK, better than writing on WB, but not more than 5 to 10 minutes even at A-level #ukedchat IMPORTANT. Pretend that teaching will not dominate and take over your life. Repeat many times. You will be lying to yourself #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @IsobelFeaver @syded06 information explosion. #ukedchat @HaudIgnota haha! Nope! embrace the journey, be inquisitive and have some inkling about what kind of teacher they want 2 b! #ukedchat @nightzookeeper Helped me notice all the children I wasn't picking up on messing about too, kept my beady eye on them then! #ukedchat Reflect on the good, bad and the ugly and then MOVE ON!! #ukedchat #ukedchat challenge is blend between Elastoplast type info needed now and deep understanding for ten years time - viable on BED but PGCe? @MariamAlhashmi 2/2 #ukedchat If you burn your hand on a flame, you won't put your hand near it again! #SelfLearning #ukedchat is @oldandrewuk a psuedonym for David Starkey? @DepJo @jamesdradburn it was the same when I was at college. Lack of skilled teacher trainers in this area or what? #ukedchat New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. Trainees need to be aware that chldn are people and not sme other 'species' They respond as humans. Lk down on them and u lose em. #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack Humour and praise take a lifetime to get right #ukedchat #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like to teach in the classroom! #ukedchat Is ITT training consistent across all the different institutions? I have noticed that there isn't consistency. @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and in sch, you must want to learn and develop too! #ukedchat

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat it's not just being confident to use ICT. It's having the confidence to NOT use it when other methods are more appropriate #ukedchat @Kathrinedavies @SteveIredale @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king interesting. I'm going to get in touch when we trial one ;) #ukedchat @alexgingell I'm taking those opportunities and other, such as hosting #ukedchat but does it necessary make me a better teacher? @eslweb @GeorgeEBlack did feel a bit strange to start with, but recorded a few lessons so got used to it! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe Positive behaviour management is not appeasement. As an infant teacher it really works. #ukedchat @ethinking Perhaps comes back to cultivating a love of learning? #ukedchat @ICTmagic Totally agree. We have joint inset training #ukedchat @DKeano1985 Every PowerPoint slide has a discussion point. Helps to keep class engaged. #ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes ah yes, that's always useful too #ukedchat RT @RantingTa: #ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you are learning ALL the time. @deafdotty Of course, but I think KS1/2 is 'better', because often attached. KS2 to KS3 isn't addressed. #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You should teach the best of all that has been thought and known. RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like to teach in the classroom! RT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. We can encourage new teachers to take risks by being open minded with their risks even if we don't think they will work! #ukedchat RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like to teach in the classroom! @ICTmagic we don;t get anything on Early years!!! #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it? http://t.co/71q6srzP

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@TESConnect @GuardianJobs :@TimesEd #UKEdChat RT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. @jamesdradburn Peer mentoring, calculated CD opps, free time, supportive management...shall I go on? #ukedchat @davidhunter sorry what do you mean. #ukedchat RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like to teach in the classroom! @mberry: "important that trainee/all teachers remember what it was like to be a child. #ukedchat < but also how & when NOT to be childish?:) @jamesdradburn nope. Doesn't make you a better teacher, but perhaps a better learner, which is important! ??not sure! #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. @GeorgeEBlack Yes, I have to say I know little about private schools. I would be interested to know. #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. RT @keilystrett: #ukedchat the process of planning and outcomes & not activities, we have lots of students still not focusing on objectives Assertiveness is crucial. Knowledge of additional support, pedagogy. Did I mention I'm

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? speaking at Ed Show tomorrow? #ukedchat #ukedchat My advice would be to learn to teach Latin because that's going to be my next big idea. xx Mrs Blurt @GeographyCarrie combo of taught and placements ideally..practise bettr than theory,but nd suport in training #ukedchat @PhilWheeler1 - oh believe me, our tutor @JanieT56 is trying to get us all on twitter and #ukedchat! It's a fab way to learn from the best! @tonyparkin @mberry What happened to you Tony? ;) #ukedchat @KempsterD Do some teachers not do this? Not all trainees 'look down' on them either! #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @BenRogersOVA @GeorgeEBlack An understanding of where children have come from and will be going is vital. #ukedchat #ukedchat students need to know there are no absolute right agendas - its all shades of grey driven by ideologies & politics @mikallaane Consistency is less important than excellence. There's little consistency when it comes to school based placements. #ukedchat RT @alexgingell: @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and in sch, you must want to learn and develop too! #ukedchat @MrsBlurt Don't worry Google Translate has a Latin section and our friend Gove doesn't know much about ICT. ;) #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat Why? Are they not going to have teachers in the future? Autonomy is an excuse for dumbing down: http://t.co/3jKHagJi RT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays. Keep learning #UKEdChat Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year. RT @ethinking: #ukedchat students need to know there are no absolute right agendas - its all shades of grey driven by ideologies & politics RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat New teachers need to be told the truth about behaviour, not lies about being nice or making lessons interesting. RT @trisha_telfer: @PhilWheeler1 - oh believe me, our tutor @JanieT56 is trying to get us all on twitter and #ukedchat! It's a fab way to learn from the best! RT @TeacherToolkit: Keep learning #UKEdChat Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year. @susanbanister I totally agree - the world has changed and education shld evolve 2 take account of it #ukedchat RT @Greig_City: @TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it? http://t.co/71q6srzP @TESConnect @GuardianJobs :@TimesEd #UKEdChat #ukedchat I'm worried!! Sounds like there is a lot of doubt and concern amongst teachers with trainee teachers from tonight. RT @alexgingell: @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and in sch, you must want to learn and develop too! #ukedchat @tonyparkin Amazing thing about U/G course is transition from pupil to teacher in three years. Asks a lot, but wonderful to behold #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @mr_lewandowski I agree, that's why so many teacher trainees really drop out. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk ok fair enough but a few changes have come and a few might be on the way. Ok. #ukedchat @alexgingell @ethinking I want to learn hence this #ukedchat :)

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?

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RT @Greig_City: @TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it? http://t.co/71q6srzP @TESConnect @GuardianJobs :@TimesEd #UKEdChat @super_sixfive @behavioura @claireothacehe #ukedchat So just to check, it is an attempt to manipulate? @ann_beck Every day is a learning day for us all #ukedchat Learn classroom management, yes, but also a greater focus on managing problems with friendships/playground issues. All related! #ukedchat @IsobelFeaver please do #ukedchat :) All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit Do you re-invent yourself, or do the kids re-invent you? #ukedchat RT @susanbanister: @tonyparkin @mberry What happened to you Tony? ;) #ukedchat < I have a portrait in the attic you wouldn't believe :D RT @GeographyCarrie RT @TeacherToolkit: Keep learning #UKEdChat Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year. < agree RT @EmSnaps: NQTs should hold onto the reason they entered education: kids. Easy to lose sight of this because of external factors #ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit agreed! #ukedchat @_Matt_Buxton_ 'instead'? Ha! 'as well'! ;-) Just think it'd be nice to get you researching something you were interested in. #ukedchat Developing a critical awareness of ed policy and approaches. Rather than following blindly #ukedchat #ukedchat @EmSnaps Do all teacher trainees come into education for the children. I know plenty who have left after a year @jamesdradburn @ICTmagic @BenRogersOVA I have started doing some of the work I set myself, invaluable training in lesson planning #ukedchat @BehaviourA #ukedchat Really? When I do bad things it's not for a reason other than personal weakness. None of us are saints. @MrWickensPE this has helped me so much - given opportunities such as this #ukedchat I feel like I have grown as a trainee teacher @eslweb yes I agree in that sense. Done well PPT can be valuable but not exhaustive. Seen some awful presentations as of late #ukedchat @ukedchat Self care. So many trainee and first-few-years teachers knock themselves out. Learn to be in it for the long haul! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk THere is clearly some hierarchy in thought but who says what is the best that's been thought? Whose list? #ukedchat @OmarKettlewell i hav a trainee..can't wait 4 her return..gr8 opp to share and learn 2gthr #ukedchat @OmarKettlewell Agree. But it should be something that is part of the training. Relationships. #ukedchat Learning about professional behaviours in the educational workplace? #ukedchat Tecahers should learn how to develop independent learning skills in students. This can be difficult to teach #ukedchat last 15 min of #ukedchat What are the top tips can you give for trainee teacher? #ukedchat @claireothacehe #ukedchat Why do we need a positive approach to things that are wrong that we want to stop? @susanbanister and no levity, please, Ms Banister... this is #ukedchat #naughtytablebeckons @PeterBone1 @ukedchat True use your PLN on twitter to share the load #ukedchat

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @ethinking time to break that particular vicious circle. Some of our best have been TAs, and have started to think for themselves. #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA @teachertoolkit If you're a reflective practitioner then possibly a bit of both #ukedchat @simcloughlin yeah! I used voice recording quite a bit and video occasionally. may have to do it a little more again. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk no. It lies at the heart of self-motivation #ukedchat @heartofsol @EmSnaps #ukedchat Does this 'loss of enthusiasm' not happen to teachers?Or are people entering the profession who 'don't care'? @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat Personalised learning is as complex or as simple as you want to make it. Just make it effective @StrictTeacher99 #ukedchat I agree!! Sounds like you're having similar experiences to us! @anhalf @OmarKettlewell you sound like the perfect teacher to have as a mentor in school! #ukedchat @simcloughlin Although youtube/skype etc is s super tool for this and they always seem to do a better job then me! #ukedchat @DKeano1985 I have 0% tolerence for rubbish PPT...Apparently what I did during 1 PGCE lecture will go down in legend at Sunderland #ukedchat @DKeano1985 We were made to do an PPT-free observation lesson when training. Invaluable as it stops you relying on it #ukedchat @PeterBone1 #UKEdChat agreed - burn out needs to be eliminated! RT @nightzookeeper: Tecahers should learn how to develop independent learning skills in students. This can be difficult to teach #ukedchat RT @susanbanister: When you are in the classroom, you will make the difference not the school/govt policy #ukedchat @susanbanister: @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat too true @susanbanister: @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat too true Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end of every day! #ukedchat Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end of every day! #ukedchat @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. It should be a 'steep learning curve'. #ukedchat Agreed @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. It should be a 'steep learning curve'. #ukedchat Agreed @mberry @ste_kins totally agree. Good teaching should be about inspiring young minds to enquire #ukedchat @mberry @ste_kins totally agree. Good teaching should be about inspiring young minds to enquire #ukedchat @IsobelFeaver @davidhunter @oldandrewuk and I definitely think technology is making it easier #ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat Learn to network, seek out best practice, make use of collaborative tech to achieve this if needs be. #ukedchat @jamesdradburn and what a great opportunity to host #ukedchat Great for making connections. Sorry if this sounds terribly boring - I have developed my teaching and my understanding simply through reading more ed research #ukedchat New (& old) teachers must realise that learning happens everywhere. Jump on opportunities. Follow their interests & be curious. #ukedchat @susanbanister one of the reasons I became a teacher in the first place. I think many still see this as important. #ukedchat @HilaryNunns RT @EmSnaps: Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end of every day! #ukedchat < Like this alot RT @IsobelFeaver: @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat Personalised learning is as complex or as simple as you want to make it. Just make it effective @EmSnaps We all should self assess like that! #ukedchat

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @nightzookeeper I have asked teachers and students to give short cpd presentations on how to encourage indep learning this month. #ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat @DJTom3 @oldandrewuk Social attitudes change - they don't stay the same and that need to be reflected in schools - homophobia etc. #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat Which is, by definition, something that we can't teach. @PeterBone1 I agree it's so easy to get burnt out, time mgt is a critical thing to learn when teaching #ukedchat @jamesdradburn @anhalf Definitely cant argue with that! Tchrs nd to support students 2! You cn help shape the future of education! #ukedchat RT @Costa_Man1: @McGuinness1 good teachers should take risks - well done and keep taking them #ukedchat @jamesdradburn I'd feel quite inhibited being on placement with a peer! #ukedchat @Starshine_Music ditto good teacher training. @ste_kins #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I was taught a fact at school. There are nine planets in the solar system. Now that's not true. Lie? #ukedchat #ukedchat Trainee teachers should be encouraged to spend some of their non contact time watching others teach in all different key stages. RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat... an untucked shirt really didn't matter. they should all be told about #ukedchat :) Invaluable CPD I keep forgetting to add the #ukedchat @EmSnaps Brilliant, perhaps we should all give that a go #ukedchat If none of your mentors have insisted upon it, the suggest videoing yourself teaching and watch it back together #ukedchat RT @HilaryNunns: Subject knowledge alone will not be enough to cope with teaching #ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat #ukedchat it's really important to remember that lots of the points from this eve relate to all teachers, not just trainees @KempsterD #ukedchat Ah I see. It's part of my training, hence the question. Though, I don't think it should be necessary in training. 1/2 #ukedchat I'm a TA at times to top up hours, done wonders watching others & observing tutor/learners and in how to utilise my own TA/LSP. @Miss_JLoves I definately had to hold back - felt restricted #ukedchat Help trainee teacher listen to their inner voice and develop their own teaching style that suits their personality and philosophy #ukedchat RT @alexgingell: #ukedchat it's really important to remember that lots of the points from this eve relate to all teachers, not just trainees RT @nightzookeeper: Tecahers should learn how to develop independent learning skills in students. This can be difficult to teach #ukedchat RT @EmSnaps: Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end of every day! #ukedchat Love the idea @mikeatedji #ukedchat Whoever is organising education will need to decide what is worth knowing. That's basic to the endeavour. Top Tip: Go back to your school to work. Old teachers always wanting to support, advise and provide opportunities. Best decision! #ukedchat @trisha_telfer well @JanieT56 dies tweet some seriously good stuff. Welcome to Twitter btw. #ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat There are so many learning opportunities found in outdoor areas. Are these fully explored on teacher training courses? #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit I agree. My love for teaching will never change. Kids keep you fresh #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @missguilford @Benita_Business @Shawki_Bakkar_ @DDWHughes Follow #UKEdChat now. @jamesdradburn enjoy the job, be brave to try, allow time for you, be +ve, you adapt to your mistakes. Use your initiative #ukedchat @ruthy2 Not just trainee teachers -all teachers should have time to do this. #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack yes twitter should be day 1 of PGCE/GTP school #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA are you going to share any of them online? I would be interested to see them #ukedchat RT @alexgingell: #ukedchat it's really important to remember that lots of the points from this eve relate to all teachers, not just trainees RT @nightzookeeper: Tecahers should learn how to develop independent learning skills in students. This can be difficult to teach #ukedchat @mikallaane Yes, trainees do 'fall' into the profession. Many who do come into education for the children leave after a year too #ukedchat @DJTom3 #ukedchat Absolutely. But it's the one thing that can't be taught. @jamesdradburn see my blog post http://t.co/kgLd1pOJ #ukedchat @_Matt_Buxton_ cool :-) Wish I got to see more of what happens outside the ICT suite. Not allowed out much :-( #ukedchat @KempsterD 2/2 It should be a known fact before entering profession. Everyone has rights - do teachers need to be trained this? #ukedchat #ukedchat any trainee can register their blog at http://t.co/moQ3QzbT and there are lots of trainer bloggers needing feedback from teachers RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat @susanbanister Agreed! :-) #ukedchat #ukedchat @mberry I agree with you completely Miles, Excellence & Enjoyment is THE most important aspect with a touch of Passion. Be active in setting smart targets throughout placement to track your own progression, especially after observations. #ukedchat @MissGuilford1 follow, #UKEdChat now. @Benita_Business #AfLGCA #ukedchat Taught not to get involved in the staffroom biscuit buying policy. Buying choccy bic's over regular is a no no and causes resent. @joanne_rich Absolutely! :o) #ukedchat RT @anhalf: @jamesdradburn see my blog post http://t.co/kgLd1pOJ #ukedchat RT @ethinking: #ukedchat any trainee can register their blog at http://t.co/moQ3QzbT and there are lots of trainer bloggers needing feedback from teachers #ukedchat Those who enjoy learning and step in and out of their comfort zones, themselves, make better teachers! Feel the fear and develop! The experience I had today with some of my peers' attitude actually makes me question PGCE teacher training... Pains me to say it #ukedchat @claireothacehe @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Children choose who they have a good relationship with. Why is training in classroom music teaching so poor? #ukedchat Late to discussion. Never forget why you became a teacher. To make a difference to kids' lives #ukedchat @JoanneW99114182 Follow #UKEdChat now... There should be time spent teaching how to utilize other adults in the classroom. Something that I had to learn on the job v.quick #ukedchat #ukedchat All trainee teachers should study children's learning from Foundation Stage up- learn how children learn! @super_sixfive @behavioura #ukedchat I await to see your reasoning for dismissing the research. I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? #ukedchat #ukedchat be positive, reflective and proactive. Piece of advice I was given by Prof M Eraut during my PGCE - observe as much as you can. Wish I did more, & cld still do it. #ukedchat Primaries and Secondaries have so much to learn from Early Years. Simultaneous multiple activities/stations & largely child lead. #ukedchat @oldandrewukINteresting but 2 points: I would say worth "learning about" rather than "knowing"... and #ukedchat RT @BehaviourA: #ukedchat is @oldandrewuk a psuedonym for David Starkey? @ethinking @alexgingell I've really enjoyed blogging and developed proffessional beacuse of it http://t.co/mt0LIzJl #ukedchat @DKeano1985 suffice it to say, lectures were improved remarkably the year after...And there was a newspaper involved...#ukedchat RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year due to it. #ukedchat #ukedchat until recent LA cuts support staff got better training than teachers in behaviour management/ pastoral issues @OmarKettlewell @heartofsol I think both - can be hard to keep focused when external factors impose on your practice and frustrate #ukedchat 'Middle class' (sorry) PGCE students in challenging schools in low SES area need to develop empathy and und of social issues #ukedchat RT @mooshtang: I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe Rubbish! You can build relationships over time with chn in the same way you can destroy them/ #ukedchat @EmSnaps Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end of every day! #ukedchat - definitely! @nohandsup great, there is a need to develop research skills in #pgce as a lifelong learning skill #ukedchat We can help! RT @Starshine_Music: Why is training in classroom music teaching so poor? #ukedchat When teachers stop learning themselves, their career is on the decline. You never know everything. Children will suffer #ukedchat @ICTmagic Agreed. #ukedchat Isn't anybody else worried that brokers for Academies are also on the boards of the trusts themselves - conflict of interest ? #ukedchat #ukedchat Also think some of the comments a bit harsh, to develop as a teacher takes time and we can't expect perfect teachers immediately @BehaviourA #ukedchat I love it when people lecturing everyone about behaviour resort to name-calling. Utterly destroys their credibility. @BehaviourA #ukedchat I love it when people lecturing everyone about behaviour resort to name-calling. Utterly destroys their credibility. RT @mooshtang: I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones #ukedchat RT @mooshtang: I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones #ukedchat @nightzookeeper an excellent point #ukedchat I think I re-invent myself every term. #UKEdChat https://t.co/ODzDWhxG RT @GeorgeEBlack: they should all be told about #ukedchat :) Invaluable CPD beyound their course what are the top tips can you give for trainee teacher? #ukedchat #BEDPlacement #PGCE @ICTmagic We planned an Edu visit to a farm during one module. It was a useful exercise but not same without the student element #ukedchat @ICTmagic play based learning FTW. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I know you disagree but I think there's gd argument pupils should be more engaged in deciding what they wish to learn #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn 20:53:42 20:53:44 20:53:46 20:53:47 20:53:51 20:53:55 20:54:08 20:54:12 20:54:20 20:54:23 20:54:31 20:54:34 20:54:37 20:54:48 20:54:50 20:54:52 20:54:54 20:54:55 20:54:56 20:54:58 20:55 20:55:02 20:55:02 20:55:11 20:55:23 20:55:32 20:55:34 20:55:37 20:55:38 20:55:40 20:55:51 @raisechildrens @tonyparkin @OmarKettlewell @eslweb @oldandrewuk @joelittlewood @ICTmagic @PhilWheeler1 @anhalf @GeorgeEBlack @OmarKettlewell @Starshine_Music @Heatherleatt @hardy_alison @HaudIgnota @claireothacehe @jamesdradburn @Vickycarl @mberry @DJTom3 @ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack @KempsterD @eslweb @jamesdradburn @oldandrewuk @nohandsup @AntHeald @anhalf @mberry @syded06

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @MrWickensPE not sure, went back to old school to do work exp and they all said not to bother, worst job ever! #ukedchat @mberry @ethinking perhaps having viewings of the History Boys should be mandatory as remedial treatment? Factory model of ed :( #ukedchat RT @bitsy1603: #ukedchat be positive, reflective and proactive. @hardy_alison @nohandsup I agree that in the action research really benefits teachers as they continue their professional journey #ukedchat @davidhunter @IsobelFeaver @syded06 #ukedchat Again, that's what has been claimed for 100 years or more. Why believe it this time? #ukedchat seems already that some are content with mindlessly ploughing through 'bought in' schemes for fnd subjects rather than teaching @mberry ... and that's just the teachers! :) #ukedchat RT @mooshtang: I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones #ukedchat RT @Romaaddict #ukedchat Those who enjoy learnin&step in&out of cmfort zones, thmslves, make btter tchers! Feel the fear&develop! <well said RT @TeacherToolkit: I think I re-invent myself every term. #UKEdChat https://t.co/ODzDWhxG RT @mooshtang: I think a lot of the comments I've read tonight apply to all teachers, not just new ones #ukedchat @music4starters what do you see the chief needs to be? #ukedchat Trainees also need lessons in: how to cope with sleep deprivation; bladder control; laughing in the face of adversity #ukedchat @eslweb @nohandsup difficulty is getting them to see that whilst hey are learning so much more in the year #ukedchat RT @Romaaddict: #ukedchat Those who enjoy learning and step in and out of their comfort zones, themselves, make better teachers! Feel the fear and develop! @oldandrewuk @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Perhaps in a few cases, definitely not all - teaching also about support + nurture = pos. relationship check out @amyparkinbed blog http://t.co/EgeqhWNn as another @plymuniprimary student #ukedchat I have just got back from leading a blogging and your school session. Think it went well #ukedchat @ICTmagic well... yes. ITT should be a chance to tinker, experiment, play. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk how can it not be taught? It's ok to be gay and I think schools have got to teach kids that. #ukedchat Tonight's #ukedchat will be archived @ http://t.co/gTCovWdS after the chat. RT @anhalf: RT @Romaaddict #ukedchat Those who enjoy learnin&step in&out of cmfort zones, thmslves, make btter tchers! Feel the fear&develop! <well said @OmarKettlewell I think tchrs nd to knw how smple things like a smile can impct on the strt of the day. Link this to neuroscience #ukedchat @MrsBlurt Diligimus educationem #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Tonight's #ukedchat will be archived @ http://t.co/gTCovWdS after the chat. @mikeatedji #ukedchat A good argument for replacing the best of what is known with what children happen to fancy knowing? Let's hear it. @hardy_alison I frequently try to promote ed research literature but many colleagues are sceptical and cynnical about research #ukedchat @KempsterD not sure what you're implying: because definitions change we shouldn't teach meanings, perhaps? #ukedchat @jamesdradburn be organised, listen,watch,ask. Take risks,try new things, don't expect to be perfect..but aim to give it ur best #ukedchat @tonyparkin Hector as ITT tutor... (mind boggling) #ukedchat @ethinking Our dept has left a comfort zone with a trainee this year and it is def a challenge but we firmly believe the students benefit #ukedchat

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012 Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? RT @TeacherToolkit: I think I re-invent myself every term. #UKEdChat https://t.co/ODzDWhxG Justa few minutes left of tonight's #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn. Final thoughts? @KempsterD @OmarKettlewell I say 'good morning' and use the name of everyone who comes through the door #ukedchat Also how to make a great cup of tea and never drink it #ukedchat @trisha_telfer @EmSnaps would be even better if we could team teach more often and get feedback from our peers #ukedchat @jamesdradburn and enjoy being with these incredible beings, full of awe about the world. Aka children #ukedchat @mberry Agreed. But why should it stop there? [I think you better see my class!] #ukedchat @GeekPeter That is a great idea. Developing an understanding of the school context is vital #ukedchat @OmarKettlewell Compulsory reading should be Ian Gilbert's 'Essential Motivation in the classroom' #ukedchat @Heatherleatt When I left my prior school I got awarded a certificate from the head for 'cheerfulness in the face of adversity!' #ukedchat Have more influence in the type of school where they are placed - believe teachers suit certain schools/area #ukedchat @davidhunter Perhaps *you* shoudn't be called a teacher. Not sure why anyone else should give up teaching though. #ukedchat Ok so rephrasing that question: why is there so little training in music teaching for primary phase? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk No lecturing intended #ukedchat RT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for new teachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat @hardy_alison @nohandsup I wish that teacher training took place over 3 years. 1st year practice, 2nd year NQT, 3rd year research #ukedchat #ukedchat teachers need to know how to be taught by children- we have much to learn... On Loughborough PGCE in September, feel ahead of the game after 3 years in secondary school as TA and teaching...EXPERIENCE! #ukedchat final tips for trainee teachers in the last minuetes of #ukedchat felt so quick #gonein60seconds RT @ukedchat: Tonight's #ukedchat will be archived @ http://t.co/gTCovWdS after the chat. @MrWickensPE that why gtp works so well #ukedchat #ukedchat has some great hosts coming up. @ICTmagic next week, then @janwebb21, with @ICTEvangelist after that. We spoil you! RT @ukedchat Tonight's #ukedchat will be archived @ http://t.co/AuESoMrF after the chat. @depjo @emmaannhardy @claireothacehe #ukedchat Yes you can, but you cannot destroy a child's ability to choose. They have free will. @nightzookeeper @trisha_telfer @EmSnaps I love team teaching - learn the best ideas from others you value and respect. #ukedchat @JanieT56 @KempsterD #ukedchat Why should this be part of ITE (/ITT) Why don't people do it naturally? #interesting @ICTmagic Indeed not. Far too much risk aversion in our line of work. #ukedchat RT @GeographyCarrie: RT @BenRogersOVA Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat <--- YES!!! Recommended read for students and teachers - Visible Learning by John Hattie. #ukedchat RT @benniekara: #UKEdChat That teaching is a lot like driving. Just because you've passed the theory test doesn't mean you can do it properly yet. RT @susanbanister: Recommended read for students and teachers - Visible Learning by John Hattie. #ukedchat

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What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers? @Heatherleatt But not leave it in the classroom of course! hot drinks not allowed!! :) #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat has some great hosts coming up. @ICTmagic next week, then @janwebb21, with @ICTEvangelist after that. We spoil you! Next week's #ukedchat is hosted by @ICTmagic and the poll is at http://t.co/7WAMdpHi. See our new widget at http://t.co/1Esem7NL @mberry Every teacher should tinker & experiment, , succeed & fail, learn and grow. I would like to think most do. #ukedchat @BehaviourA @claireothacehe #ukedchat That's what utopians always say: that they can change human nature. It's never true. Mrs Hooper: Problem of the week: Strike It Out: Strike itStrike It Out Try this game: Draw a n... http://t.co/82g4B0HC #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat have enjoyed tonight, now off to convince year 9 they want to go to bed, #teachinginprivateschoolisnotacopout @Starshine_Music timing..non core sbjcts get 1/2 day each on SCITT #ukedchat RT @mberry: @tonyparkin Hector as ITT tutor... (mind boggling) #ukedchat @ethinking < pouring scorn on the gobbets and widgets - magic! RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat has some great hosts coming up. @ICTmagic next week, then @janwebb21, with @ICTEvangelist after that. We spoil you! @oldandrewuk Pupils start with what they want to find out...Connections to existing thought can then be made. #ukedchat RT @susanbanister: Recommended read for students and teachers - Visible Learning by John Hattie. #ukedchat @hardy_alison @nohandsup My colleagues always say undergrad route is the best for primary school, because you get subject knowledg #ukedchat RT @emmaannhardy: Watching channel 4 news - literacy education. talking about phonics. #ukedchat RT @susanbanister: Recommended read for students and teachers - Visible Learning by John Hattie. #ukedchat @KempsterD #ukedchat So? We can be wrong about what is true. That's no excuse for pretending to know nothing. @nightzookeeper @trisha_telfer Agreed. Non threatening/intimidating feedback and culture of sharing of best practice #ukedchat @ICTmagic Same true of SLTs in your experience? #ukedchat Everyday and every class is different. Adaptability is key. Leave grudges and excuses at the door. Smile, engage and encourage. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk What pupils want to find out is not inferior #ukedchat #ukedchat trainee teachers given them conflicting advice? Given in good faith, this is how your career will go. This is why we self-reflect a lot of the topics tonight highlight what any teacher should be and do, and is not necessarily just for trainee teachers #ukedchat #ukedchat the sceptic in me is asking "would they apply to be teachers if our economy were healthy with lots of jobs?" RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like to teach in the classroom! @AntHeald Just meant that it is hard to say anything is definite because even the experts get it wrong. #ukedchat RT @susanbanister: When teachers stop learning themselves, their career is on the decline. You never know everything. #ukedchat It's 9pm & that's #ukedchat for another week. Thanks to @jamesdradburn for hosting his first #ukedchat. Superbly done!

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