Mark Schmidt Hum 127 Plato Worksheet 1.

A physical/sort of love relationship, even though Agathon makes fun of Socrates all the time. It can maybe be seen as a brotherly love relationship. 2. Eryximachus suggests that they spend the rest of the night delivering competitive speeches in praise of the neglected god Eros. He purposes this topic due to the burden of Phaedrus complaint that everything else had received more attention that love. 3. Eryximachus asserts that love governs medicine, music and astronomy (187a). So overall, the other speeches should include how love relates to those things. Such as there beauty in them. 4. His speech his a explanation for the reason why people in love say they feel a whole feeling once they found their true love partner. 5. It shows he respects the Gods. He goes on to mention how people whose faces and limbs turned away from each other and did cartwheels (190a). He then mentions the three sexes, the all male, all female, and the androgynous that was half male half female. They tried to scale the heavens, and seeing this Zeus split them in half. He uses detail describing Zeus and Apollo, and what really gives it away is how he ends it. Aristophanes goes on to say that men should fear the gods, and do not neglect to worship them, or they will wield the axe again, and we walk around with our noses split apart. 6. I feel Aristophanes would be the same kind of lover as Agathon, just using it for his own personal greed, only since Aristophanes parodies Socrates all the time. 7. Starts out by criticizing the earlier speakers for concentrating on the profits given by Eros rather than the character of the God himself. 8. Love is love of something or nothing according to Agathon. His theory that love and wisdom can be attained just by physically touching the other significant shows that his statements make the desire of love an object that is for his own personal self. So there is really no deep attachment in Agathons love definition. 9. Love needs beauty, which it doesnt have, and good things arent always beautiful. So love is neither good nor bad. Socrates is using his own wisdom against Agathon, trying to prove a point that love means the opposite. Its not pretty or young, and it can be obtained by appreciation to ideas, intellectual, and physical significant. 10. Diotimas story is more believable and sounds what like love is. Diotima says that Love is harsh, a master of trickery and ruse, along with being thoughtfully reasonable and creative (203d-204c). Also mentions that humans have the urge to procreate. By having the desire to have kids, its passing down the genes and knowledge and therefore is an expression of immortality, both mentally and physically for the urge to procreate. Aristophanes story sounds goofier. Talks about people whose faces and limbs turned away from each other and did cartwheels (190a). He then mentions the three sexes, the all male, all female, and the androgynous that was half male half female. They tried to scale the heavens, and seeing this Zeus split them in half, which explains why were longing to be with the

other half. I see why it could be believable, but Diotimas/Socrates theory sounds more true. 11. Eros loves and has a desire for beauty, but if Eros loves or desires beauty, Eros needs beauty and does not have it. So Socrates has shown Agathon that love cannot be beautiful if Eros loves beauty and does not acquire it. The other word worth being honored in a symposiasts speech and is good for beauty is the word truth. Without it, your speech is nothing.