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SuperintendentproposesfurthercutstoSchoolBoardsbudget
Tuesday,Apr.10,2012byLauraPeters|40comments|Emailthisstory
12 LoudounCountyPublicSchoolemployeeswillfacea5percentraiseintheirinsurance paymentwiththenewcutstothefiscal2013budget.SupervisorDr.EdgarHatrickpresented hisrecommendationstotheLoudounCountySchoolBoardApril10inordertocutanextra $22millionfromtheproposedbudget. Wewanttomakesuretheleastamountofimpactisintheclassroom,VicechairJill Turgeon(BlueRidge)said. AccordingtoHatrick,thebudgetwillonlyneedtobereducedby$10.5millionafterthe LoudounCountyBoardofSupervisorsappropriationsresolutiontotalling$3.4millionanda minimumofthestatesprojectedrevenueofjustover$8million.Statelegislatorswillfinalize theamountofprojectedrevenueinmidApril. Weleftthesalarystructurealone,wedidnotincreaseclasssizeandwedidnotmake dramaticchangestoprograms,Hatricksaid.Ithinkwegotyoutotheamountyouneedto gettowithoutharmingthechildrenoremployees. Atotaloftwoprogramsaresettobecutfromschoolsthatwillnotaffectcurrentstaff.One program,theelementarymathematicsfacilitatorswouldcut13positions,fiveofwhichare vacantandtheothereightwillbereassignedsaving$975,000.Theotherprogram,anSAT prepprogramwouldcutsixandahalffulltimeemployeesfromthatclass,whichwillbe reassignedtootherclassroomsinordertosave$487,000. Thecutsthatwemakearegoingtoimpactprograms,theymayimpactconveniences,they mayimpactmanythings.Beforeyouassumethecutsthatwemakearebecausewedontcare aboutstudentsorwedontcareabouteducation,thethingweareplacingaboveallelseisthe impactofeducationofallstudents,BillFox(Leesburg)said.Ithinkthatwereallin agreementthatwewantthesecutstobeminimizedontheimpactoftheeducationofthe studentsinLoudoun.Wewilldoourbesttoprotecttheimpactoftheeducationtoour students. Thetwoprogramsaffectedwouldbeincorporatedintogeneralstudiesinclassrooms.With theSATclass,itwouldlendahandtoafterschoolfeebasedactivitiesforstudents. Accordingtotheproposedcuts,33.9vacantpositionsaresettobecutthatwouldsavejust over$1.6million. Ifitsvacantrightnow,dowereallyneedit?Hatrickasked. Therewouldalsobeacutof74.5newpositionsresultingin$3.8millioninsavings. DebbieRose(Algonkian)saidshefelttheincreaseininsuranceratesseemedunfairtothe teacherswhowillnotbereceivingasubstantialpayincreaseforexamplethosewhohave showedloyaltytothecountyandremainedteachingformanyyears. Inotherreductions,arevisiontotheemployerandemployeehealthinsurancepremiumshare wouldincreaseby5percent.AccordingtoHatrick,doingthiswouldbringLCPScloserinline withotherschooljurisdictionsinVirginia. Whateveryourepayingrightnow[forinsurance]willbeincreased5percent,Hatricksaid. Otherreductionsbesidestheinsurancepaymentincrease,includesreducinginstructional technology,fundingsubstitutesinfiscal2012,eliminatingcompensationstudyandteacher insightscreeningprogramsandreducingbusdriverandattendantassignmentsortraining
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bytwodays,resultingin$5.8millioninsavings. Thetotalreductionsinprogrameliminationis19.5fulltimeemployees,aresultof$1.5 millionsavingsvacantpositionseliminating33.9fulltimeemployees,resultingin$1.6 millioninsavingseliminating74.5newpositionswith$3.8millioninsavingsand$5.8 millioninothersavings,withatotalof$12.5millionincuts.Thepositionsthatareupfor cutswillnotaffectanycurrentemployees,Hatrickreassured. TheSchoolBoardwillholdaworksessionApril11at6:30p.m.todiscusstheproposed reductionstothefiscal2013budget. Proposedcuts: ProgramElimination MathematicsFacilitator13positions$975,000 SATPreparationProgram6.5positions$487,000 VacantPositionReductions SpecialEducationSecretaryinCentralOfficeoneposition$54,893 BusDriversandBusAttendants23positions$823,000 ElementaryAdministrativeInternoneposition$75,411 GiftedEducationTeachers1.4positions$105,575 KindergartenTeacher1.5positions$113,116 ElementaryLibrarianhalfaposition$37,705 HighSchoolTeacher4.3positions$324,266 OtherPositions1.2positions$94,263 NewStaffingReductions CareerandTechnicalEducationLeadTeacheroneposition$75,411 EnglishLanguageLearnersTeacherAssistantsthreepositions$101,334 EnglishLanguageLearnersTeachersfourpositions$301,646 FamilyLifeTeacheroneposition$75,411 ElementaryArtTeacheroneposition$75,411 ElementaryMusicTeacheroneposition$75,411 ElementaryPETeacheroneposition$75,411 ReadingTeachers4.5positions$339,348 EducationDiagnosticianinCentralOfficeoneposition$76,606 SocialWorkerinCentralOfficeoneposition$82,845 SpecialEducationSpecialistsinCentralOfficetwopositions$207,188 AreaTransportationSupervisorinCentralOfficeoneposition$66,770 BusAttendants15positions$538,264 BusDrivers35positions$1,435,985 BusDriversInstructorstwopositions$87,510 LeadBusDriveroneposition$59,745 OtherReductions Insuranceshareincreaseby5percent$2.8million FundSubstitutesatfiscal2012level$809,986 ReducebudgetforInstructionalTechnology$1.8million EliminateCompensationStudy$100,000 EliminateTeacherInsightScreeningProgram$50,000 ReduceassignmentforBusDriversandAttendantsbytwodays$220,000 TotalRecommendedReductions127.9positions$12,544,511 12 SchoolBusTrip LetUsArrangeYourNextSchoolTrip.Itineraries,TravelPlanning.
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Mon,Apr16at01:59PMbyGoldplatedschools,indeed|Reportthiscomment
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averageformyoccupation.
Mon,Apr16at01:37PMbytom|Reportthiscomment
Findoutwhatyoureworth.Startsurvey. AllK12Teachers MedianSalarybyJob Job NationalSalaryData(? ) $0 $15K $30K $45K HighSchoolTeacher $43,744 ElementarySchoolTeacher $40,249 MiddleSchoolTeacher $41,947 SpecialEducationTeacher,Preschool,Kindergarten,orElementarySchool $41,074 SpecialEducationTeacher,SecondarySchool
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Iseethattherewasaminimalcutincentralofficefigures!Whytheheck arenttheremorecutswithinCentralAdmin?Youreallydontneedallofthose secretariestothesecretaries! Whileyoureatit,howaboutcuttingthefollowing: TheCLARITYreportcardsystem.Nottoowelllikedbytheteachers. Theusageofthenumbersystemtorecordgradesattheelementarylevel, especiallywhentheyarentusedatthemiddleorhighschoollevels. TheLCPSDestaffingpolicy,especiallywhenthosepositionsusuallyopen uponceenrollmentspickupoverSummer.Thisprocesscausesunduestress onmanypeopleinvolved! TheusageoftheDRAs(thinkofalloftheamountofpaperthatcanbesaved, aswellasthelossofinstructionaltimethatmaybemadeup,wastedbecause oftheseDRAs). Anythingelse?!?
Fri,Apr13at04:04PMbyTaxesarenotpatrioticjoe|Reportthiscomment
Wishthesepeopleworkedashardatcuttingmoneyastheydospendingit. WhodotheythinktheyaretheMWAA?
Fri,Apr13at11:27AMbyMMM|Reportthiscomment
@Keith
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WedgeAntillesyoumustbealousyengineerthen,beforeIbecameateacher IworkedasanelectricalengineerandImadeamuchhighersalarythanat LCPS.Plus,asanengineerIgotpaidovertime,generousrelocationpackage, amatched401K,abetterhealthplan,stockpurchaseat15%discount,more personaldays,bonuspay,yearlyraiseandabetterpension. Imafantasticengineer,atleastthatiswhatIwastoldwhenIgotmyannual reviewwhichincludednoraiseduetocutbackstoourinflatedoperating budgetatmycompany.Yet,IwashappytohearIstillhadmyjobandwas greatlyappreciatedbymymanagementandpeers. Andyes,weallwereblessedwiththosewonderfulperksyouspeakof1215 yearsago(includingmyself),butthosedayshavecomeandgoneforallofus whodonthaveanexecutivemanagementtitlenexttoourname.Iknowso manygoodpeopleoutofworkrightnow(frommostlyprivatecompanies)its scary. Yes,therearemanystinkingrichfolksinLoudoun,butthatisnotthe majorityofus.Ihonestlydontcarehowthebudgetisallocatedaslongasit isntincreased.ThecollectiveLCPSstaffcommunityneedstolearntolivewith whattheyaregivenandgettheideaoutoftheirheadsthatataxincreaseis theanswertoallofourproblems. LCPSemployeespushingforataxincreasereadthepapers,watchCNBC, talktoyourneighborsinprivateindustry.Ifyoudo,youwilllearnthisisthe absoluteworsttimetooverburdenusnoraiseorunemployedfolkswitha heaviertaxburden. LCPSneedstolearntolivewithintheirmeansjustastherestofusdo.And forgoodnesssake,letsstopthiswhohasitworselunacy.Itsasilly discussionatatimewherewearelackingplayersinthesmartsolutions game.
Thu,Apr12at06:35AMbyOverworked&Underpaid|Reportthiscomment
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@MMMYoucantbeintheweedseveryday.Itsnotjustassimpleas snappingyourfingersandcutting$50M.Itsreallynodifferentthanthehuge wastesweallseeinthefederalgovernment(helloGSAinVegasrecently). Theywillhappen. Iseethebestcourseofactionistogetprocessesinplacethatforecastaccurate projectionsofgrowth,capitalneeds,aswellasbalancingthatwithtrimming theprogramsandservices(orbenefits)thatwedontreallyneedtoprovidea qualityeducationtoourchildren. Yes,youcanbeintheweedseveryday.Thisisprettycommonsense.Its actuallyaproblemofwillpower,notmathandcommonsense.Itsthegrowth oftheadministrativestate.Moreadministrators,bureaucratsandprocess weenieswhocontributelittletotheoverallfunctionalityofasystem,buthey, theyhavetheirlittlecorneranddontdaredisturbit.LCPSshouldNOTbea jobsprogramnogovernmentfederal,stateorlocalshouldbe.Theforecasts andreportsoncapitalneedsarethere.Theymaybemassagedandnotinfull viewofthepublic,buttheyexist.Thisisanempiretryingtoprotectitselfand thatsnotsurprising.Justlookatthepositionsbeingcutandthepositionsnot beingcut.Thechiefs,deputies,stupervisors,superintendents,managers, assistantmanagersandthedeputytosecretarytotheassistantmanagerof bobbleheaddepartment(EasternDivison)arealwayssafe,ifyougetmydrift. Idpreferamuchleanerandfocusedoperation. BTW,myfatherafewweeksagostatedhewenttoamiddleschoolinIllinois withcloseto50studentsperclassandexcelled.Idliketoputhimupagainst someoftodaysstudentsinmathematicsonastandardizedtest.Hishigh schoollevelmathbookslookliketodayscollegelevelmathbooks.Wheredid theslippageoccurovertheyears?TheNEAandtheDepartmentofEducation withitsmultitudeofmandatesandedictsmaybe?
Wed,Apr11at04:14PMbyWedgeAntilles|Reportthiscomment
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dont.Notsomuchinthepublicsectorforcertainpositions,butthosefigures inthearticlearenotunrealisticforaexperiencedprofessionalinthose positions. Thewordinternwasexplainedbelowbyanotherposter.Itprettymuchisthe equivalenttoanassistantprincipal.Myguessisaexperiencedteacher, counselororsomekindofadministratorthatisstartingonthepathtobea principal.Theuseoftheworkinternjusthasadifferentconotationthanin mightintheprivatesector.SincetheyareintheEducationfield..they probablycanstretchtheirmindsabitandhandlethisconcept. Istillthinktheycancutmore.However,peopleneedtorealizethatrunninga budgetthatbigiscomplicated.Youcantbeintheweedseveryday.Itsnot justassimpleassnappingyourfingersandcutting$50M.Itsreallyno differentthanthehugewastesweallseeinthefederalgovernment(helloGSA inVegasrecently).Theywillhappen. Iseethebestcourseofactionistogetprocessesinplacethatforecastaccurate projectionsofgrowth,capitalneeds,aswellasbalancingthatwithtrimming theprogramsandservices(orbenefits)thatwedontreallyneedtoprovidea qualityeducationtoourchildren.Yes,somepersonnelmaylosejobs,classes maybealittlebigger,butthatslifewhenmanagingabudgetdrivenbythe taxpayersmoney. Rightnowthisisallrun,wellatleastbudgetsapproved,byschoolboard membersweelectthatdontnecessarilyhavetherightbackgroundtoevaluate thebudgetprocessorinformationbeingpresentedtothemtomakedecisions offof.ImsurethepeoplepreparingitforHatrickknowwhattheyaredoing, butuntilsomeonewhounderstandstheirlanguagecanworkonbehalfofthe schoolboardrepstoknowhowtoevaluatetheinformationbeingpresented andaskquestionsaccurately,wearegoingtostruggleandmostlikelymake littleprogress. Allofthisisjustmyopinionandpersonalviewsasalowlytaxpayingcitizen withabackgroundincorporatefinancialanalysisandcontrolintheprivate sector.AnyandallofthefactsabovemaybeslightlytofullyinaccurateasIdo notknoweverythingnordoIclaimto.
Wed,Apr11at01:02PMbyCrazy|Reportthiscomment
Whoknewyouneededamastersdegreetobeanintern?
Wed,Apr11at11:52AMbyOnlymakessense|Reportthiscomment
OHBoy,IcantwaitfornextyearsLCPSbudget.IexpecttheBOSandSBto cutevenmorein2014LCPSbudget
Wed,Apr11at11:44AMbyAninternthatdoesn'tgetpaid......|Reportthiscomment
<<ElementaryAdministrativeInternoneposition$75,411 ElementaryLibrarianhalfaposition$37,705 SocialWorkerinCentralOfficeoneposition$82,845 Most,ifnotall,employeesinthesepositionsholdmastersdegrees.Theyare ashighlytrainedasengineersanddeserveeverypennytheymake.Somuch moregoesintotheirjobsthanyouthink.Supplyanddemanddoesdrivesome ofitinprivateindustry,butsodoesrequirededucation,skillset,etc.>> Sogettinggraduatedegreesandlicensingdoesntapplytoengineers?When youcompareapplestoapples,ittakesmuchmoretobecomeanengineerthan tobecomeanintern,librarian,orsocialworker.Thisiswhysalariesinthe privatesectorreflectthat.
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Whoknowswhatgoesoninthepublicsectorwheremoneygrowsontrees andthereisunlimitedincomefromthetaxpayers.
Wed,Apr11at10:17AMbyLoudounCounty|Reportthiscomment
Keepcuttingandthencutsomemore.
Wed,Apr11at09:54AMbyShawnPickrell|Reportthiscomment
ElementaryAdministrativeInternoneposition$75,411 ElementaryLibrarianhalfaposition$37,705 SocialWorkerinCentralOfficeoneposition$82,845 Most,ifnotall,employeesinthesepositionsholdmastersdegrees.Theyare ashighlytrainedasengineersanddeserveeverypennytheymake.Somuch moregoesintotheirjobsthanyouthink.Supplyanddemanddoesdrivesome ofitinprivateindustry,butsodoesrequirededucation,skillset,etc. Youhavetorememberthatthesesalariesareaverageormeanovertheentire payscale.Onemostlikelydoesnotstartatthatsalary.Youhavetopicksome assumptionforbudgeting. Idothinkthereismorefatthatcanbetrimmed.Idefinitelythinksomeofit canbedoneattheadministrativelevel(TajMahal)Itscommonpractice withbudgetingtoaskfortheworldasyourstartingposition.Youneverget whatyoudontaskfor.
Wed,Apr11at08:47AMbyHolySh..|Reportthiscomment
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Jeez,lookatallthebeancounters.Reallyneedthismany? http://www.lcps.org/Page/1072
Wed,Apr11at08:14AMbySeenthisbefore.....|Reportthiscomment
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Winchester/Frederick/Clarke. Untilthen,yourejustposing.
Wed,Apr11at07:06AMbyChris|Reportthiscomment
Iagreewaya,Cutmore!Educationandinvestmentinourstateandcountrys futureisntimportant.
Wed,Apr11at06:45AMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
@HolySh..ifyournotmakingmorethanthatasanengineerthenmaybeyou shouldconsideradifferentcareer
Wed,Apr11at06:30AMbywaya|Reportthiscomment
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