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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** {01:47:55.767} [Howard] I believe I brought this in the past and until David Clarence and his study group have brought this concept out of removing the executor I didnt think about that idea. I got to give all the credit in the world that I can come up with to them for their idea but as Ive said before they fell a little bit short. They dont fully understand what theyre doing. An executor or an administrator or a guardian or a warden or a conservator which would cover police officers, by the way, and military, conservators are all in a trust position. They actually are trustees of the public weal which I hadnt put together. Dont ask my why. Everybodys got a background of knowledge and business and things going on and problems in life where they learn something. And I never got into a problem of executorship in a will or a demise of somebody in the family because our family didnt fight among one another. As a matter of fact, I got four brothers and when my mother passed away anything my brothers wanted I told them, you just take it. I got a good living and Im working and Im doing fine in life, I dont need anything. When my grandmother passed awayand by the way, my grandfather was quite a business man and he left her very well offand when she passed away I told my brothers whatever part was to go to my mother who had passed away would now go to us boys and you boys can keep it all. Ive done fine in life, I dont need anything. So, see, we didnt fight and my brothers didnt fight among one another. No, not one of them tried to get more than the other. They just accepted what was given to them. We didnt get involved in these executor fights in courts over probate and things of that nature. So, I really had no background experience in anything like that and apparently some of the people in the research work of David Clarences had some experience in some of that. I led them into things in the law. They found information about how to terminate such an individual and I think its wonderful.

Theres very few people in this country that are putting out information that I can either agree with or rave about. Mickey Paoletta and his debt collection knowledge and information that hes given people to avoid debts, I can rave about Mickey. Mickey sticks right to the law and he does great. And I think David Clarence has to the extent of the law that they understood he has stuck right to the law. He is only promoting what the law says. Hes not coming up with a bunch of who struck John bull crap like some of these other ones with their things like accepted for value which Ive preached against ever since they came out with that because that is wrong, that will not work. There is law that shows why. Ive expressed that law. But there are tons of other things. I dont want to pick on any one particular person but this bull crap about the flag that was brought out, all this bull crap that floats around the patriot community about punctuation and putting commas and semicolons and crap like that around your name, this is all bull crap. None of this is backed up by the law. As a matter of fact, I think it was last week, if not, it was the week before I read to you the Delaware State Code law related to the requirements for the name of a corporation and it said, with or without punctuation. Punctuation is not important although some clowns might think so and the more education you have in English grammar the more you would think it was important but the fact is in law its not important. All kinds of crap like that floats around this country but nobodys found what its really all about. Nobody has really addressed the factual issues of this government but I have brought up in the past and I didnt realize how important this was until David Clarence brought this stuff out about removing the executor and then I realized how important what we had found in a case called Jersey City v. Hague. In that case the Supreme Court of the State of New Jersey espoused that all government personnel, officers and employees or all parts of government, are at all times in a trust position. And as such the court saidand I repeat jokinglythat they have a fiduciary duty to act with good faith, honesty and integrity. I still, even though I had read that and Ive quoted it many times and Ive always saidI sort of got a chuckle about it because Ive never seen government act with good faith or in a high level of honesty and integrity much less any level of honesty, not in my sixty-seven years. And in our research we found out why, because they pushed through Congress rather fraudulently if you read the history of it the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment most importantly the 14thwhich created the presumption that each and every one of us are residents of the government. They dont mean that youre a resident living on a piece of land somewhere in a territory known as Pennsylvania, known as California, known as Florida, known as Minnesota, thats not what they mean. Now, I think I covered the four sides of the state just now. What they mean is that you are a resident agent of the political community and by such authority presumably from the 14th Amendment all government now has the right to regulate everything that you do because youre part of them. The concept of liberty and private property was completely done away with by that act. And look at the life were living. Look at what goes on around us. Look how they tell us what to do. {a typical failing of all governments} Now theyre going to tell us that we cant grow our own food, that we have to participate in commerce in order to get food, that we have to join a health care program and put up with their drug business and use their damned drugs hell no. I dont agree with any of this and I think quite a few Americans dont agree with it. Now, Im sure theres quite a few who do. Theyll be dead too before long and probably from a bullet, not from the food supply or the drugs because the drugs and the food supply will kill you slowly. Bullets kill you quickly. And when this breaks loose some of these

morons who think everything government does is wonderful, well take the governments side and thats a very small number in comparison to the ones that are so upset and they too will get killed. So, like I said, theres going to be a lot of blood shed over this if we cant stop this. Now, understanding that government is in a trust position the Constitution being the laws that regulate this trust whether it be the state constitution in the local stateand you can go after your state officials for this, you can go after police officers for this, you can go after the lawyers for this, you can go after judges for this, you can go after any one of them if you learn and understand this stuff about trusts. Now, the first part about the trust that is most important is the part about the rights and powers of a trustee in the management of property. Its the powers, duties and liabilities of trustees in general. Now, what Im going to quote from here comes out of Corpus Juris Secundum, book number 90. If any of you can get your hands on this make your own photocopies of this and study it, take it home from the library. Im going to post all this on people_looking_for_the_truth (yahoo group) as soon as I get finished deleting a lot of crap that people have stuck on there that I wouldnt want there because it isnt the truth. We should have never, ever set that thing up allowing people to post information on it. That was a mistake. Were going to correct it. There will be no posting from now on by anybody at all without it being authorized by me. I hate this idea. Im becoming a dictator and I see it necessary. As a matter of fact, Im very seriously thinking of the idea of running for dictator in 2012 against whoever runs for president. I think it will be an earthshaking experience for the American people. Itll be the first time since 1789 that theyve actually had a choice of whether they could elect a Democratic communist, a Republican communist or a dictator. So far, all theyve been able to do is elect communists. I wouldnt be a communist dictator. I would return the principles established in this country under the Constitution of liberty and private property to the people and power to the people themselves, not power to the government. I think it would be an interesting challenge when I do this. But anyway, lets get into this stuff on the rights and powers of a trustee because government is in a trust position at all times and the rights and powers according to Corpus Juris (Secundum) of a trustee depend on the nature of the trust itself, its validity and the enforceability of the trust, the terms of the trust instrument and the purpose and object for which the trust was created. Now, keep this in mind because the purpose and object for which the trust of the United States government was created was the principles and purpose of the Constitution. If they are not abiding by the principles and purpose of the Constitution and they are passing laws that are adverse to or in conflict with the purpose of the Constitution then these buggers are in breach of the public trust and should be removed from life, not just office, but execution. I like the idea of Noriega becoming a dictator and executing people. I just hope that he does it the right way. Anyway, make me a dictator and I will execute all lawyers and drug pushing doctors to start with and I will advise everybody thats employed in any government office in Washington, D.C. around January the first of 2013 that they are to vacate the office. If they are still in office when I get there on January the twentieth to take over in 2013 they will be rounded up and executed. Im sure a lot of people are not going to like that idea but I dont care. It will create enough of a disturbance in the minds of people to wake them up to this trust position of government. They are not to be trusted.

It goes on to say, a trustee must be deemed to possess or be able to exercise such powers as are specifically conferred on him or as are necessary or appropriate to carry out the purpose of the trust and are not forbidden by the terms of the trust. Well, look at the Constitution. What is forbidden in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution? Theyre ignoring all of that, arent they? They are trying to tell us that we cant grow our own food in our own land that we bought and paid for. No private property rights are left, then, are they? {They did a property description overlay of our land and then taxed us and regulated us}. Theyre trying to tell us that we have no control over our bodies. I cant read and research and learn old medicine and use supplements of any kind or good foods that I grow to maintain my body and get rid of ailments that may develop, that I have to use their drug medicine which is ineffective to say the least. So that is a breach of the public trust. Almost everything that is going on and has been going on for a hundred and eighty years roughly, a hundred and some years, Id have to sit down and do the mathematics. I forget what the count would be. Where are we, 2010? And that was 1868 when they passed the 14th Amendment so what are we talking about (142 years) 150 years roughly. This breach of the public trust has been going on. Nobodys done a thing about it. Lawyers havent brought it up. Nobody addresses it and the people dont understand it. Heres a statement: Generally, the powers lodged in a trustee by the instrument creating the trust should be strictly construed and the agreement must be interpreted as between the trustee and the beneficiariesmost favorably to the beneficiaries. Have you seen that happen? Everything is most favorable for the government, isnt it? Anything that theyre doing at all then would be such as that court case that Dave was talking about against the man with his wheat that even the Supreme Court agreed the government had the power to control his private property was a breach of the public trust and those Supreme Court people should have been executed way back then in the 1940s and nobody did it. It goes on to say: So many unusual powers in the trustee must be explicitly conferred and a grant of power to the trustee is strictly construed against the execution of such powers A construction that confirms absolute powers on the trustee is not favored in equity. Ordinarily when the powers of a trustee are defined and limited by a clear and expressed languageand I dont see anything in the Constitution that is not clear and well expressed of the trust instrument he is bound thereby. Now, you know what, right in the Constitution Article 6 of the United States Constitution it says that the judges of both the states and the US are bound hereby. The judges dont follow that. They do follow the exemption that theyve created by the 14th Amendment but they dont follow the original principles of the Constitution. It goes on to say: Anything less than that such provisions are illegal and he has no authority beyond that conferred and no power to act in other matters connected with the trust estates. So, the trustee will not be allowed to exercise powers conferred on named third persons. Now, thats the kind of stuff that Congress does. They name agencies as third persons to do things that they didnt have the power to do. They have no power to do that is what its saying. The trust instrument being the Constitution did not give them the authority to do such things. And, by the way, theres an interesting court case that we found years ago that came right out and acknowledged that and that was to pay the debts of the United States issue, it was Sinar v. Boucher was the United States Secretary of the Treasury at that time.

[Dave] It was representative Mike Sinar versus, Boucher was the head of the GAO, Government Accounting Office and they were trying to pass the Graham, Rudman, Hollings Act to cut the bad budget across the board by ten percent and then the congressmen could say, well, its out of our handsthe nasty old government accounting office did it and we have no control over them because theyre an executive agency and were just poor legislators because thebastards did not want to face their constituents when the GAO had to close all these airbases and military bases and navy dockyards so they wanted to blame the GAO under this Graham, Rudman, Hollings Act and representative Mike Sinar went to court against Boucher being the head of the GAO at that point in time and the United States Supreme Court said, Congress being a legislative branch agency does not have authority to delegate away to an executive branch such as the GAO a constitutionally mandated responsibility. So if they do not have it in the case of balancing the budget and passing the buck to the GAO they by the same token do not have it to pass the Federal Reserve Act and delegate away the constitutionally mandated responsibility to coin the money and regulate the value there of. The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional and always was. [Howard] They would also be third persons.

[Dave] But none of these states have the guts to do it and none of the state attorney generals who start live to finish the job or they get unelected or fired or pass to the eternities. [Howard] You explained it better than I can, Dave. Thank you. The Supreme Court had upheld exactly that limited authority of government and particularly the Congress that they cannot give away their constitutionally mandated authorities that the trust instrument, being the Constitution, limited them to certain authorities and gave them certain authority and they couldnt give them to somebody elseno third persons outside. Well, look how many things in government have been turned into privately owned enterprises like the United States Post Office. Today, the United States Post Office is not the United States Post Office. It is the United States Postal Service and its not the United States Post Office. It was supposed to be under the control of Congress. Theyre now privately owned. Theyve delegated that authority away. [Dave] [Howard] Its been privatized. Yep. Now, how many other things do you think theyve privatized?

[Dave] And none of them have any full force and effect regulations promulgated and in compliance with Congress mandates. None of them. [Howard] Thats rightwell, thats why. Thats why they dont because they dont have any authority to be doing what theyre doing in the first place. Thats why theres no promulgating authority in the regulations because they have no right to write regulations. [Dave] No substantive regulations exist.

[Howard] Thats right, they cant exist. They dont have any authority to do what theyre doing at all. So without authority They put themselves in a terribly dangerous position by doing these kinds of things and individuals that go to work there put themselves in a very dangerous position because of the anger and frustration of the American people that is developing because of the wrongs that theyre doing to us. This is what I would like to prevent. We can do two different things. We can follow the concept that David Clarence has put together of removing the executor and remove the trustee. We can start out by removing the United States government officials and their employees as trustees over me individuallyyou individuallyand the state government officers and employees as trustees over you or me individually and the county, town or city governmental personnel of officers and employees as trustees. I think we need to go a lot further than David Clarence has brought up. I think what David Clarence has brought up is phenomenal. I think hes gone in the right direction. I just think we need to go further. I think we need to remove them as trustees. Thats one act. The other act is we can file lawsuits. Now, dont think youre going to get any money out of this. The whole money system is collapsing. Youre not ever going to collect. Youre going to spend your time doing this and get nothing back for your time. Youre doing this because you care about America, you care about your fellow Americans, you care about yourself. Thats the only reasons youre going to be doing this because, for one thing, they can drag these cases out for two, three, four, five, six years. We dont have that much time in this money system. Youre going to see it collapse sometime in the next two years. I think mathematically that it will be around the end of November, beginning of December in the year 2012, mathematicallythats what it looks like. Thats just a mathematical equation that works it out that way. Thats not a for sure by any stretch of the imagination because when you plot what they call curves its based on present information and present trends and projects the future. Thats not 100% reliable. It gives you a pretty good idea though. So if Im off it could be July of 2012 it might happen sooneror it could be June of 2013. It could happen a little bit later. But the interesting thing is that those kinds of graphs and the plotting of that type of information gives you a pretty good outlook of whats coming. And its coming. Now, we could even be so wrong that they might prop things up, artificially support things and carry this thing all the way into 2014. I dont know. But it seems that the artificial props that they have applied to boost it back up have collapsed rather quickly {surprised?} in the very recent history. You look at the market and what its done. There are props thrown out here and the market goes up 200 points today, 150 points tomorrow, 100 points the next day and the next day its down 250 points because the prop failed that quickly. Look back at the recent market for the last two years, the props are failing. That indicates that in the future no matter what kind of a prop they come up with including what I just read to you, this idea that theyre going to take over the issuing of currency by the states and the Supreme Court away from the government and the Federal Reserve, thats not going to work. Thats just a prop because they still dont have value behind the money. Theyre just going to issue a new currency and claim that its stronger and better than the Federal Reserve currency was and its still going to be the same thing as a Federal Reserve note, not redeemable in anything of value. So this is still a breach of the trust. Its not going to solve the problem and its still not going to be in line with the Constitutional mandates of value behind the money. Gold and silver was the value. It doesnt have to be gold and silver. Gold and silver

represents real value but so does the corn we grow, the wheat we grow, the wood we have growing in this country. They can be used for firewood or it can be used for building material. That has value. Anything like that could be the substance that would be used to back the currency but if its not backed by something like that {how about honesty? Believe it or not it has happened in history but was somewhat short lived. We need to go back to a variation of tally sticks or maybe cutting off hands again} and its still just a blank piece of paper its a breach of the public trust. They are not doing what their trustee duties are doing. They are operating beyond their rights and powers as a trustee and that means that theyre in breach of the trust. Now, this section that Im reading to youI only read part of itis about the trust and the powers of a trustee. There is another section back here, several pages further back that starts an article called the duties of a trustee. And as I began reading that I laid it down. I said, if this is going to take some time and I thumbed through it to see where it ended and it looks like its about 40 pages long on the duties of a trustee and I guarantee you from the first page and a half that I read that we can start out immediately figuring out breaches of their duty as trustees. Now, let me go just one step further in explaining why David Clarences instrument that hes generated doing away with the executor fails to follow procedure as correctly as it should. Now, Im telling you I like what hes done. Im not trying to knock the man. Hes really opened my mind up to some of the stuff that we have researched and I have copies of all kinds of stuff about the trust here. And hes opened my mind up to how it should be used but as I was reading this: in order to remove the trustee, the executor trustee, administrator trustee, guardian trustee, warden trustee, well, any one of them thats in a trustee position you must identify the breach of the trust by the trustee. He didnt really do that in his executor removal letter that he put together and I see that in the near future these powers-to-be will get their heads together and they will say, well, he didnt follow the right form and he didnt follow the right procedure so we dont have to pay any attention to this and although for a little while what hes done is going to work its going to fall part shortly. It needs to be boosted up a little bit. Ive asked for him to get in touch with me. {I dont believe he will and I have good evidence that he wont.} I want to help him to put what weve found together with what hes doing. I dont want to take credit and I dont think he wants to take credit. He doesnt seem to be that kind of a person. Its not a matter of taking credit. Its a matter of helping people in finding what the law really says and going as far as we can go with something like this and we can go a lot further than just removal of the executor of the trust property because hes right. They are holding us and our property as an estate because weve given them the property. Griswold has talked about this for years. As a matter of fact, I think I brought this up way back in the early nineties. I tried to insult the hell out of the American people. I told them theyre the nicest people on the face of the earth. No other country of people have ever given everything they own to their government as we have done. Were a little bit stupid but we certainly are nice people. I hoped I insulted them by calling them stupid. Well, it didnt seem to work {it didnt seem to work because just stupid was a step up.} You ever heard the expression, you cant insult me Im too ignorant. I think thats what fits. That they dont know, education hasnt taught us enough to even understand private property. {Theyve created Wreckefeller idiot savants.} Ive had people call me up and ask me how do I know if its private property. I thought, my God, I didnt think people were that stupid. I understood private property. Maybe it was because my grandfather explained a little bit of it to me though because I thought back about it and

school never brought this up at all. {the teachers didnt understand it eithertheyve been dumbing people down ever since the Civil War. } School never taught me the difference between government, public property and private property. They never brought it up. So, no wonder most people dont understand this. But your private property cannot be infringed upon in any way, shape of form by government. They had to right to walk in on that mans piece of land and tell him he had to burn his wheat but they got away with it, didnt they? {He didnt say, show me where I agreed to it. He gave tacit consent by not objecting to it.} Because lawyers stand behind this kind of stuff. Lawyers push this kind of crap. They even word things the wrong way and twist the Supreme Court of the United States and sometime back in the seventies I recall a television program of some kind that was on where they were interviewing one of the Supreme Court justices. I dont remember which one it was. But he made a comment that a lot of bad decisions come out of the Supreme Court of the United States because the lawyers are incompetent to word things properly. Interesting statement, wasnt it. Yes, if its approached in the wrong way and worded the wrong way you will get a wrong decision out of the court because the problem that the court has is it has to remain ignorant. It cannot apply anything that is not brought before it. If the arguments that are brought before it are not even in line with the law they have to make some legal conclusion related to it and make a decision on it. It may well be a wrong decision and that Supreme Court justice admitted that many a wrong decision had been made simply because the lawyers dont bring it properly. Now, whats that tell us. That tells us that the burden falls back upon us, the people, to do something and do it correctly. Youre not going to get lawyers to do it. Understanding this stuff about trusts will be critically important. If you can get to a library and look up Corpus Juris Secundum, book 90, on trusts you can get started on this a little bit quicker. Its going to take me a while to get this posted on people_looking_for_the_truth. And in order to get on people_looking_for_the_truth you have to just petition to be a member. Theres no price or anything to pay. You dont have to do anything special to be a member. You just petition. Its just a yahoo group site. So you got to go on yahoo groups and look up or punch in people_looking_for_the_truth . It should come up. I dont know that much about what you do to get on things like that. Im not a computer person. I dont even want to be. But for those who are, I will put this on. For those who dont have a computer {and theyre the lucky ones} if youll write to Gemini Investments at Post Office Box 398, Delmar, Delaware 11940. Send a couple of bucks and send more than two or three because this is quite a few pagesitll cost me more than two or three dollars to duplicate all this stuff on trusts for you and send me a couple of bucks to cover my printing and mailing costs. Mailing costs for something like this will probably be four or five dollars in regular mail because its a good bit. Well mail you copies of this if you ask for it. But please try to support our costs by sending more than just two or three dollars for this much stuff because this is quite a bit of information. Ill be reading different parts of it on some of the meanings in the conference calls in the near future particularly getting into the duties of a trustee. Not the rights, because these rights were very limited in that explanation but the next section is duties of a trustee and that really gets limited, puts the nail in their coffin for the kinds of things theyve been getting away with doing. I have not yet found a form for creating a breach of trust case but I think its very similar to a breach of contract case and Ive got a form for breach of contract. If you can back this up with documentary evidence of things that they have done to you there is no way that they can come back with an

answer. You will win by default. Now, whether youll ever collect any money or not, thats a different story. But I think if we start going after them for this I said twenty-five years ago that one of these days you wont be able to buy an airline ticket to get out of the country to go visit neighbors or friends or a family or something in foreign countries that you might want to visit because all the lawyers and politicians have bought up all the tickets because theyre leaving. You start going after them for breach of the public trust and that just might happen. You wont be able to get an airline ticket. The airlines will be booked for weeks getting all these criminals out of this country because theyll know theyve been caught. Anyway, let me go on with a little bit with some more of what this talks about. I got a couple of things underlined here and Ill read those sentences. And when the trustee conforms with the provisions of the trust instrument in their true spirit and meaning he may adopt such measures and do such acts as are imperial in his general discretion and are proper and reasonable means for making them effectual but broadly speaking consent by the beneficiary cannot enlarge nor can objections limit the powers of the trustee. Now, whats been going on in this country? People are protesting, people are refusing to pay income taxes. Theres a big protest movement of taxpayersits been going on for years in the countryvery ineffective because their objections cannot limit the powers of the trustee. Their consent cannot extend the powers of the trustee. Thats very important to realize even if we have stupidly gone along with some of the things that theyre doing thats wrong that did not legally establish their right to continue doing the wrong. But our objections dont limit their powers as a trustee. So the beneficiaries waiver of the right to object to a breach of the trust does not enlarge the powers of a trustee, it says. In some circumstances, however, a beneficiary by his conduct may create an estoppel to question the powers of the trustee. If a trustee exceeds his powers his acts are a nullity and in the absence of other considerations are ordinarily without force and effect and acts done in contravention of the trust are not authorized by statute are void. A trustee who has been guilty of an internal fault is entitled to his locus poenitentiae and any opportunity to repair the wrong he committed. I skimmed right over that part before. Maybe thats why I skimmed over because you got to give him a chance to correct the wrong. Weve been working on writing up a waiver of their breach. Well waive it and forget it if theyll correct it but if they wont then were going to sue them for breach. Anyway, it goes on to say: Those who deal with trusteeswhich means anybody in governmentare presumed to do so with notice of the legal limitations of the trustees power and when they go outside of such power they do so at their own risk. The trustee goes outside of his power at his own risk. You can hold these people personally liable. You dont sue the government. Thats a mistake that is made in a lot of these civil rights casessue the state. You cant sue the state, the states a fiction, it doesnt exist. The state didnt do anything wrong. The federal government doesnt do anything wrong. Its people in government that do things that are wrong and they are in the trust position and you have to sue them. And the way to sue them, it appears from what Im finding here, is for breach of trust. What theyve done is not within the confines of their limited authority. A couple paragraphs down theres another interesting statement:

And where the trust estate has vested in the beneficiary thereof with the limitations of the trust the trustee has no further interest and he may not determine or control the manner in which the beneficiary should deal with the estate vested in him. A trustee under a trust created by contract between the grantor and the grantee has no personal contractual right to keep the trust alive. In other words, you can terminate the whole trust if you want to. Im not sure the American people would be quite ready to terminate the Constitution and that is the trust document. [Dave] What was the second word of that locuswhat?

[Howard] Wait until I go find that again. I think that it was on that page before. Locus poenitentiae. [Dave] Im looking in Blacks Fifth.

[Howard] Hes entitled to thiswhatever this meansand an opportunity to repair the wrong he committed so thats why we have to give them a waiver of breach of the trust in advance and if they dont correct the breach of the trust and stop doing the wrong that theyre doing such as a police officer writing a traffic ticket to a private persons automobile or the IRS imposing a tax on a private worker that doesnt have a privilege from government to work such as a liquor license or a drug license or a gun license or a government job itself or a corporate privilege granted to him to operate a business. Other than those things, its a breach of the trust to impose these taxes on the common working man like me. Im just a common working man. I didnt ask government for any of those privileges. [Dave] I found it (Locus poenitentiae) in Blacks Fifth: A place for repentance; an opportunity for changing ones mind; an opportunity to undo what one has done; a chance to withdraw from a contemplated bargain or contract before it results in a definite contractual liability. A right to withdraw from an incompleted transaction. Morris v. Johnson 219 Ga. 81, 132 S.E. 2d 45,51. Also used of a chance afforded to a person by the circumstances of relinquishing the intention which he has formed to commit a crime before the perpetration thereof. Blacks 5th, page 848, left hand column, bottom left. [Howard] Thats only righteous and decent to give somebody a chance to correct the wrong that theyve done. I agree with that and I think what we should do is we should write a Notice of Waiver of Breach to each and every person in Congress, in both sides of it, the House and the Senate. [Dave] The Bible calls it an opportunity to repent.

[Howard] We will waive the breach that they have done of at least these two laws right now and just see how far we can get with this, the law requiring everybody in America to have health insurance and all the other foolishness thats in that law about killing people that are over 65 years of age and not worth anything to society anymore. Thats all in that law in case you dont know it. And then this new thing that apparently just

went through in the last couple of days of preventing you from being able to grow your own food and just threaten them with a suit for breach of their fiduciary and trust duty to the trust document called the Constitution and the protection of our property. And if you dont correct this wrong that youve done we will sue you and somebodys going to have to follow through and sue them. If we dont have the guts in America to stand up and do these kinds of things then America should go down and it will. {Eg.: America will close due to a lack of interest. Note that the Roman Empire (the first modern nation) terminated due to a similar attitude and in addition to nutty policies of their governmental officials. After a while they depended on mercenaries to fight their battles and also their financial system became dependent on robbing other nationsthat gave out finally. The people had turned from being Spartans to being wimps on the dole with their bread and circuses. Does this sound familiar?} [Tom] This is Tom Murphy. Im sorry, Ive just been listening in. Im totally intrigued by what youre saying and I agree with you 100%. They need to be led. [Howard] them. They need to be sued. You need to take everything they got away from

[Tom] Im talking about the people. Thats the primary interest is the people and we need the people. [Howard] Oh, ok, yes, youre right, the primarypeople. Youre right, the problem is they need to be led and theyre too stupid to even pick a leader. Lets see what happens in 2012 when I blast this all over the country that Im running for dictator. {the entrenched dictators will probably get nervous}. The hell with this president crap, do away with it, no more democracy, no more Democrats and Republican communists. Elect me a dictator and Ill put things back the way they were supposed to be. {Didnt that happen in pre-WWII Spain, ie Franco? } Lets see what they do. [Tom] We basically have that organized already but its not a dictator. Its a National Standards Enforcement Agency and its established de jure agency, totally, to provide oversight of government performance. So were already established. We have it all ready to go. Wed welcome your participation. [Dave] The American Communist Lawyers Union already has control.

[Howard] As long as you let me be the dictator of it. Im telling you Im going to take over as dictator. Im going to take total control of this. {02:42:09.532} . . . [Howard] Call me or contact Gemini Investments. Give me a contact number and Ill call you. Im more than willing to talk to people about ideas.

[Tom] Ill give my phone number, everybody knows it, its all over the internet. Its 775-848-8800. Call me. Give me a call tomorrow sometime. Ill throw my ideas at you. [Howard] them work. [Tom] together. Ill throw some of mine at you and lets see if we can get together and make I feel that thats exactly how it is going to work is we all have to get

[Howard] Indeed we do and we need to stand up and do something and people are so damned reluctant to stand up and do anything. One or two do and the government just knocks them down because one or two by yourself is nothing. [Tom] Thats right. Im excited. You are right on. We have a situation. I just received action today where they filed a motion to dismiss and order and such and they completely changed his name, the plaintiffs name from upper- and lower-case de jure to all-caps, period, in order to claim jurisdiction. [Howard] Thats the only way the courts have jurisdiction. You got to realize the government is a corporation. Thats a fiction and it can only deal with other fictions. [Tom] [Howard] Thats correct. So even the court cannot deal with anything thats not a fiction.

[Tom] That was what they tried. It was a trick they tried. And if hed have answered, of course, well then he would have submitted to their jurisdiction. [Howard] Well, see, you are trust property of the government ever since the 14th Amendment so put the case in, in all capital letters as trust property and then sue them for breach of the trust for putting you in that position. Then theyd have jurisdictionthey couldnt get around it, could they? [Tom] Thats interesting.

[Howard] Thats the only way I see that you can get the jurisdiction of the court to raise and take the authority that they have. [Dave] Then its unlawful conversion and unjust enrichment by them doing it.

[Howard] Indeed it is, an unjust enrichment, and thats part of trusts. You got to get into this stuff on trusts. Boy, if the trustee unjustly enriches himself in any way off of the beneficiarys property he is liable for breach of the trust. What has been going on in this country for the last 150 years since the Civil War? They have been taking our property, havent they?

[Dave]

The American Communist Lawyers Union has been doing it.

[Howard] Thats I want you to elect me as a dictator because only a dictator could execute all the lawyers and all the doctors. And that stuff you were reading about the Food and Drug Administration, thats all doctors and if you get rid of a couple of them other ones will step up and do the same thing. So you got to get rid of all the drug pushing doctors. [caller] Well, why dont we just issue an order rescinding that? We can do that within ten days. Why dont we just execute an order as a third-party intervener and rescind that? [Howard] Rescind what?

[caller] Somebody needs to do it. They just made it into law? They just executed it? Theres a certain number of days that you can respond and rescind it. If we can get a copy of it we just rescind it. [Howard] You would have to get enough people to do it because, remember, this whole concept is a democracy and the democracy works on what they call mob rule. If the biggest part of the mob agrees with it then everybodys going to suffer with it. If the biggest part of the mod disagrees with it then it goes away so you would have to get an awful lot of people together in America to send a letter to them telling them [Tom] Heres my viewpoint on it. All you have to do is get an entity with established authority qualified to make that ruling on behalf of the people. [Howard] Well, thats the US Supreme Court.

[Tom] No, the National Standards Enforcement Agency is that agency and it can act tomorrow. [Dave] And none of the stuff they pass in Congress applies on the states. It only applies in the fiction District of Columbia and in the corporation state of whatever and in the two-capital letter fiction abbreviation for the state and in the numerical designations called zip zones and live natural people do not live in those fictions. Live natural people live on, not inside fictions, they live on top of actual land, not inside of fictions. [Tom] The people in general dont know that, they dont have a clue about that, so they are victims of these stupid laws. [Howard] Thats why somebodys got to sue these bums for breach of their public trust and expose this openly. [Tom] Do you have a template for that?

[Howard] I got a template for establishing a constructive trust on the estate property that theyre holding but I dont have a template yet for breach of the trust. [Tom] Thats what we have to establish.

[Howard] I think that might be very similar to breach of a contract and I got a template for breach of the contract and I think its very similar. [Tom] Hows it tied in to violation of our constitutional rights?

[Howard] You dont have any constitutional rightswhere do you get that idea? Where do you get the idea that you havelawyers use that term. It was a cover-up that they created. People dont have constitutional rights. [Tom] Really?

[Howard] No, people dont have The government has constitutional rights. The government was given certain powers and rights by the Constitution and they were given certain limitations. [Tom] I think the Constitution is for the government or direct them as to exactly how theyre supposed to operate in our interest to serve and protect us, we, the people. [Howard] not for us. You got the idea. Youre absolutely correct. It is for the government. It is

[Tom] Thats correct. And so we are guaranteed certain protections and theyre not providing them. [Howard] If education only taught people how to read instead of just how to pronounce words people might be able to read things and understand them. The beginning of the preamble to the Constitution says, We the People of the United States do ordain this Constitution for ourselves and our posteritywhich means people who take our place in the future in government. People do not understand that the United States is not America. It is a corporation located in Washington, D.C. It was ordained by those people for themselves, not for the American people. It is their Constitution. As a matter of fact, in 1833 there was a court case brought by a guy in Baltimore City, Maryland who owned a little waterfront property and he had a pier and he had enough depth of the water there for boats to come in, big ships, and load and unload. And Baltimore City government had acquired some land near him and had done some excavating work and they left the dirt uncovered, no vegetation on it, and they didnt put up any barricades to prevent wash off and apparently there were quite a few storms at that time and the storms washed a lot of the dirt and silt down into the waterfront and it brought the dirt level at the bottom of the water up so high that he could no longer get ships into his pier so he sued them. The case is called Barron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore. It went all the way up to the United States Supreme Court. Now, keep in mind this was in 1833. This was before the 14th

Amendment was passed which extended the Bill of Rights to the states. That happened laterthis was before that. The United States Supreme Court ruled [Tom] So this is pre-1861?

[Howard] Yes, it was 1833thats pre-1861yes. The Supreme Court rules in that case that the Constitution applied to the government that it created and to no one else. That case is called Barron v. the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore. Its a US Supreme Court case and as I recall, it was in 1833. I dont remember the cite to it but the court ruled that the Constitution applied to the government that it created and to no one else and he could not use the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution against the City of Baltimoreit was inappropriate. Isnt that interesting? [Tom] So what do have to say about the oath of office, that all public servants, socalled, are supposed to execute [Howard] They are supposed to take and supposed to abide bywell, the only way youre going to get anywhere related to the oath of office is to sue them individually for breach of the public trust because the authority to do anything about a breach of the oath of office rests with the attorney general of the United States and the attorney general of the states and hes a scum bag lawyer like all the rest of the scum bags that are lawyers and hes not going to do anything about other government people not taking the oath because most of those scum bags either didnt take the oath or they took an oath renouncing all the oaths that they took. Theyre just as damned guilty as anybody else. Theyre not going to do anything the breach of the oath so youre going to have to approach it as a breach of the trust rather than the oath. Forget the oath. They either didnt take it [Tom] A breach of public trustso what are the violations, what are the penalties, what statutes defined [Howard] Well, thats why I just said, if you want copies of this and you dont have a computer that you can pick it up off people_looking_for_the_truth and write to Gemini Investments and Ill photocopy it and mail you copies of it. [Tom] Ill find it, Ill get it.

[Howard] Or you can find it yourself. Im just reading stuff right out of Juris Corpus Secundum, book 90 on trusts, Sectoin 246 and then the duties of a trustee is 247 and thats really long, thats like 40 or 50 pages, Im guessing. [Tom] act? [Howard] the trust. Its full of violations there. So what would that be, treason, a treasonous No, its not treason. Forget this patriot crap. Its not treason, its breach of

[Tom]

Im just going by law, Im going by what case law saysviolation of

[Howard] The law says its breach of trust. It doesnt say anything about treason. Treason is one of the things that the Congress of the United States has the authority to bring charges of treason against somebody. That authority doesnt rest with you and I just like the authority is with the attorney general to do something about a breach of the oath of office. It is not with you and I. No wonder these patriots that have been bringing this up for years have never gotten anywhere with it because the attorney general has to carry it through. As far as treason goes you got to get Congress to carry it through. Well, theyre the treasonous people. You think theyre going to accuse somebody of treason? Hell no. I think the whole answer rests in the direction that David Clarence has brought us with this removal of the executor/trustee or administrator/trustee. Now, see, thats the part he left off that theyre trustees and removing them as trustees or suing them, which he didnt bring up, for breach of the trust. I was, before he ever came out with this idea of removal which I think is great, I was thinking of putting together, and Ive been researching this for months, of putting together a complaint for breach of trust against anybody in government. Start out with these little peon idiots in clown suits with a badge and a gun called cops and sue them for breaching the trust by giving you a traffic ticket on your private automobile and go against the Department of Motor Vehicles for registering it and classifying it as commercial property. Go against little things like that. Get started somewhere small. But we can go all the way going against Congress and I think its going to have to be done quickly. Go after the cops, go after the lawyers, go after the judges, go after Congress, go after the state legislators. Every one of them is in breach of trust. Theyre making laws and enforcing these laws that are internally authorized for government to use within government but theyre misrepresenting those laws and applying them out here in private society and breaching the basic concept of the Constitution of a republican form of government. Now, lets clarify that. The concept of a republican form of government does not mean that the government is a Republican form, at all. The government in this country is a democracy. The republican form of government concept if you go back and read it, its very well explained by Madison in Paper No. 39 of the Federalist Papers. Madisons Paper No. 39 in the Federalist Papers explained that there was two forms of government, the national and the federal. The national was the people in their private capacity and the federal was the government in its political capacity. That was the separation of power which the republican form of government concept is [Tom] The Clean Water Act are two separate standards of performance. One is national standard of performance, the other is the federal. The EPA only offered to implement the federal and, the other is the federal and it just did not pertain to the national which the National Standards Enforcement Agency has picked up and established standards and regulations, now, to implement enforcement of it and it puts government out of business. [Howard] Well, we dont want to put the whole government out of business entirely because there is a purpose for this government. Read the Preamble to the Constitution, it has the authority to raise armies and defend this country. It has the authority to regulate commerce so that commerce continues to flow normally and doesnt impose duties upon

people that would put commerce out of business which is what theyre doing in the reverse today. [Tom] It does not entitle them to participate in commerce and thats what they have been doing. [Howard] Yes, youre right. So, everything that theyre doing, then, becomes a breach of the trust, doesnt it, because the Constitution is the instrument that created the trust position that they are in. Now, one other thing that I found in reading this stuff. And I believe I found this in Scott on Trusts, Scotts Abridged Law of the Trust. Thats a rather renowned book on the law of trusts. Most people depend on that book as guidelines for trust information and knowledge of the law. And he said that the trust that is created controls and nothing else can get in its way. Nothing else can interfere with it. The trust is all-powerful, it controls. Now, he didnt go into any discussion about the public trust at all because hes a lawyer. You wouldnt expect him to do that. He just talked about trusts in general. The concept of a trust requires that the beneficiary be looked out for in all circumstances, that everything is being done for the benefit of the beneficiary. Well, I have heard government officials in this country make statements that the American people are the beneficiaries. Were not being treated as beneficiaries, are we? Were being treated as trust property and theyre investing us in commerce and making us pay the cost of the commerce. So, in all situations everything that theyre doing is a breach of the trust. Theyre not treating us as the beneficiary. Theyre not protecting my interests. Now, see, this is what the Mafia stood up against for years, but theyll never let you know this. They always made the Mafia look like theyre terrible people. {03:05:05.000} . . . The Mafia in its original concepts was free enterprise. Dont interfere with my business. Leave me alone. Let me run my business without government interference. Thats what the Mafia was really all about. Now, Ill grant you, theres been a big split in the Mafia. In recent years since I guess about the 1950s or at least the early sixties the Mafia got involved with the government and the governments drug programs and selling and promoting drugs. Now, all of it didnt. There was a big split in the Mafia. The good people, the decent people, they still refused to cooperate with government. The believed in free enterprise and they continued to try to run businesses without government licenses and such. The other part of the Mafia joined the government and got into the drug promotion business. So, yeah, theres some really bad Mafia today. They need to be cleaned up, too along with the rest of the government. The government is definitely in the drug promotion business. I can show you spots around this country where CIA-owned ships come in at least a month and in some cases once a week and drop off shiploads of drugs and government law enforcement personnel barricade the area so nobody can get in and see whats going on. [Dave] And the people are the enemy.

[Howard] Yeah, and they unload these shiploads of drugs into trucks and distribute these drugs all over the country and there are big money people involved in paying for the drugs and then they have little people out on the street pedaling the drugs. Its terrible, the things that are going on in this country, and government is doing this and getting away with it. [Dave] And the communist lawyers that run the government are behind it and theyve sold out the American trust to the United Nations trust. [Howard] Yep. Well, a lot of this is coming out today in small bits of information, getting around a little bit but guarantee you its going to get to be bigger, bigger and bigger announcement of these kinds of things that will get out. And I can guarantee you the news media will carry these breach of trust cases when you start filing them and that will help. You sue every senatorwhat is there, a hundred senators, theres fifty states, theres two for each state so theres a hundred senatorsyou sue every one of those names that are senators for breach of the public trust because of something that they have passed into law like this you cant grow your own food in your own yard or this health care bill which guarantees to cut the cost of health care by killing the elderly and getting rid of them. I dont know if you know about that but thats in the bill that they will assign certain doctors to determine that youre no longer valuable to society and this doctor will order your death thats in that health care bill. [Dave] Theres a taking without just compensation, for sure, taking your life.

[Howard] Yep. Well, actually the requiring if a private individual to record the birth certificate of their new born child is a taking of the childs body property without just compensationanother breach of the trust. Anybody thats got a birth certificate that isnt a corporation. The only birth certificate that the government can require to be filed is the birth of a corporation because government is a corporationit only has power to control corporations. It doesnt have the power to control natural people. These laws that pretend to require an individual to have a birth certificate registered are fictitious, theyre not real. [Tom] They control the hospital.

[Howard] Well, yeah, they do control the hospitals. Thats why all these drug pushing doctors have to be executed too. [Dave] None of these agencies have any substantive regulations. The only regulations they have are agency internal interpretivethats some lawyers opinion interpretive regulations. [Tom] Theyre imposing them on us, we the people, that arent subject to them. Thats the problem. [Howard] Thats why we should remove every one of them as administrator/trustees. I think David Clarences idea is fantastic. I mean he is on the right track. I wish hed get in

touch with me. He tried and I wasnt home the day he called and he hasnt called since. {my info suggests that he isnt going to call}. He needs to get in touch with me. We need to get this thing to go bigger than it ismore involvedthat he understands that every one of these positions hes talking about like executor is a trustee position and government is always in that trustee position including military. Any military person who comes into any one of the states to do anything except enforce the constitutional limitations on those states is in breach of the public trust and should be executed and Ive told the military [caller] Is breach of the public trust a crime?

[Howard] Indeed it is. Sure, because it constitutes theft, the taking of your property. Theft is a crime, isnt it. Execute a thief. Boy, did I get in a whole lot of trouble on Truth Radio one night a couple of weeks ago. Im on www.truthradio.com on a Wednesday night on a program called Higher Ground Bible College and its run by a Christian preacher and I really threw it at them. I said, you people out there that claim to be Christians you cannot believe half the story and rebut or refuse to address the rest of the story. Now, the story that Jesus Christ was hung on a cross tells us that on each side of Jesus they hung a thief. Now, either you believe that whole story or you cant possibly believe part of the story and not the rest of it. Why in the hell arent we hanging thieves? Well, naturally, the nice preacher said, you let me do the preaching. But you think about that, how can you believe half of the story? [Tom] Thats the answer I needed right there, thats it.

[Howard] Either we hang these thieves, we execute them and clean this up or we continue on living this miserable life of worry and concern about how were going to get by and where were going to get food and how much moneys going to be available to be made. I make a joke and its partly true. The family always gets together on Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years and Easter and birthdays and things like that and we got about four generations in our family thats still cranking and our family gets together and we have a nice dinner on those days. We dont do much Christmas crap with a whole lot of bull shit gifts and stupid things that people dont need and we dont go out running around like nuts buying a whole lot of crap like so many people do so we really dont participate in this thing called Christmas. But its a nice day to get together and have dinner and when we have dinner one of us, usually, today, its falling upon me. Im one of the oldest in the family other than my mother-in-law, my father-in-laws gone now but he used to do it. We would always give our Creator thanks for the wonderful things that Hes given us and one of them is enough money to buy the bullets to get rid of the people that dont agree with us. We always thank him for that. Thank God for giving us the ability to make enough money to buy the bullets so we can rid of the people that dont agree with us. Thats one thing. The other thing, we always thank God for rain because rain makes corn. Corn make whiskey and whiskey makes everybody happy. [Tom] Ill tell you, Ill agree to that. Ok, there you go. Thats great.

[Howard] We dont live exactly the same way as most Americans do. We have not cooperated with government to the full extent that most people do although out of stupidity all of us in the family including my father-in-law he fought in the Second World War. My father fought in the Second World War, they really believed at that time that they were doing the right thing but as they grew older and learned more about what was really going on in this government they began to realize that what they did was wrong. We had no right to go over there and interfere in what went on in that country. The Constitution of the United States says that the government will create armies to defend this country, not to create armies to attack other countries. How many times in the history of this country have we attacked other countries? There is no authority to do that. Were involved in one right now. [Tom] Rather than protecting and serving us theyre attacking us.

[Howard] Those protestors that chained themselves to the fence around the White House in Washington D.C. have no idea what their powers are and what they could really be doing but they could be suing the Congress of the United States and the President of the United States and the past President of the United States personally for getting us involved in this war because its a breach of the public trust because the document did not authorize them to attack another country for any reason, only to defend an attack on this country which means they got to come over here with their guns and their tanks and their airplanes and start fighting with us, then we have the power to fight back. [Tom] [Howard] arent I know, but were not in control. Well, we could be in control. The people have the last word. They just

[Dave] Not according to the United Nations. According to the United Nations youre just cannon fodder. [Howard] country too. [Tom] We have the last word and we can throw the United Nations right out of this Exactly what needs to happen. Homework: Study duties of a trustee. **************************************************************** From http://spiritualeconomicsnow.net/?m=20101209 COURT: Whos Who and What to Say Published by admin under Knowing Who You Are

My position on going to court has always been: never voluntarily go to court. Live men and women are not meant to be in any place designed solely for the business of fictional entities. When we attend court, we are deemed dead, in fact, they cannot deal with us until we admit to being dead. a legal fiction .a trust. Court is for titled persons: judge, prosecutor, defendant, bailiffs, cops, and attorneys. Live men and women are not recognized, so it makes sense to send in a dead personan attorneyto handle our cases . except for one thing: they do not know how the system works, due to their indoctrination. If you can find one to do as you say, then you will prevail, but most of them would rather hang onto their BAR cards than behave honourably. The only thing that dead, fictional entities want from us is our life energy, and the only way they can get it is by our agreement. Without us, they cannot function, so, they are desperate to get us into court, to have us pay the debt which they created by charging the trust. Since common law courts no longer exist, we know that the case never has anything to do with facts or live men and women and so, anyone who testifies (talks about the facts of the case) is doomed. ALL courts operate in trust law, based upon ecclesiastical canon law ritualism, superstition, satanism, etc.which manifests as insidious, commercial law and we are in court to take the hit, if they can get us to do so. They use every trick in the bookintimidation, fear, threat, ridicule, rage, and even recesses, in order to change the jurisdiction, when they know they are losing, in order to make us admit that we are the name of the trust. When we do so, we are deemed to be the trusteethe one liable for administering the trust. Ergo, until now, it has been a waste of our time, energy, and emotion to go to a place where it is almost certain that we will be stuck with the liability. We all know from our indoctrination, programming, and schooling that judges are impartial and have sworn an oath to this effect. This means he must not favour either plaintiff or defendant. But, our experience reveals that he does, indeed, favour the plaintiff, indicating a glaring conflict of interestthat the prosecutor, judge, and clerk (cleric) all work for the statethe owner of the CQV trust. So, as the case is NOT about justice, it must be about administering a trust. They all represent the trust owned by the state and, if we are acting as beneficiary, the only two positions left are Trustee and Executor. So, if you detect a judges partiality, although I doubt the case will get this far, you might just want to let them know that you know this. If you consider court as entertainment and if you can stand the evil emanating from its officers, the fear and angst oozing from the walls, and the treacherous atmosphere, then go, knowing that under trust law we cannot be the trustee or the executor of a trust, whilst being beneficiary, as that would be a conflict. I still recommend having someone go in your place, so that you do not become confused and admit to being the trustee. Whats the worst that can happen to your representative, when he can prove he is NOT the trust/trustee. (I also

recommend that we all switch license plates on our cars. That would put an end to the traffic cases.) The position of beneficiary may lack clout, but the other positions hold liability. Since state employees want to be the beneficiaries of the trust, the only way they can do so is to transfer, to us, the liability which they hold, as trustees and executors, because they also cannot be both the administrators and beneficiary of the trust. So, trusteeship and executorship, i.e.: suretyship, becomes a hot potato and everyone wants to toss it so s/he can be beneficiary of the credit from the trust. When we were born, a trust, called a Cestui Que Vie Trust (CQV) was set-up, for our benefit. Evidence of this is the birth certificate. But what is the value which must be conveyed to the trust, in order to create it? It was our right to property (via Birth into this world), our body (via the Live Birth Record), and our souls (via Baptism). Since the state/province which registered the trust is the owner, it is also the trustee. the one that administers the trust. Since they, also, wanted to be beneficiary of this trust, they had to come up with ways to get us, as beneficiary, to authorize their charging the trust, allegedly, for our benefit (via our signature on a document: citation, application, etc.), and then, temporarily transfer trusteeship, to us, during the brief time that they want to be the beneficiary of a particular constructive trust. This means that a trust can be established anywhere, anytime, and the parties of the trust are quickly, albeit temporarily, put into place. But, since a beneficiary cannot charge a trustonly a trustee can do soit is the state that charges the trust, but they do so for their benefit, not ours (albeit occasionally we do reap some benefit from that charge but nowhere near the value which they reap. Think bank loan.. we reap a minute percentage of what they gain from our authorization). So, the only way, under trust law, for them to be able to charge the trust is to get the authorization from the beneficiaryus, and the only way for them to benefit from their charge is to get us to switch rolesfrom beneficiary to trustee (the one responsible for the accounting), and for them to switch their rolefrom trustee to beneficiary because no party can be both, at the same time, i.e.: within the same constructive trust. They must somehow trick us into accepting the role of trustee. Why would we do so when the trust is for our benefit? . and how do they manage to do this? Well, the best way is to get us into court and trick us into unwittingly doing so. But, if we know what has transpired, prior to our being there, it is easy to know what to say so that this doesnt happen. The court clerk is the hot shot, even though it appears as if the judge is. The clerk is the trustee for the CQV owned by the state/province and it is s/he who is responsible for appointing the trustee and the executor for a constructive trustthat particular court case. In a last will and testament trust, the opposite is the casethe executor appoints the trustee.

So s/he appoints the judge as trustee (the one to administer the trust) and appoints the prosecutor as executor of the trust. The executor is ultimately liable for the charge because it was s/he who brought the case into court (created the constructive trust) on behalf of the state/province which charged the CQV trust. Only an executor/prosecutor can initiate/create a constructive trust and we all know the maxim of law: Whoever creates the controversy holds the liability and whoever holds the liability must provide the remedy. This is why all attorneys are mandated to bring their cheque-books to court because if it all goes wrong for them. meaning either they fail to transfer their liability onto the alleged defendant, or the alleged defendant does not accept their offer of liability, then someone has to credit the trust account in order to off-set the debt. Since the prosecutor is the one who issues bogus paper and charges the trust, it is the Prosecutor/Executor (PE) who is in the hot-seat. When the Name (of the trust), e.g.: JOHN DOE, is called by the Judge aka Administrator aka Trustee (JAT), we can stand and ask, For and on the record, are you saying that the trust which you are now administrating is the JOHN DOE trust? This establishes that we know that the Name is a trust, not a live man. Whats the JATs first question? Whats your name? or State your name for the record. We must be very careful not to identify with the name of the trust because doing so makes us the trustee. What does this tell you about the judge? If we know that the judge is the trustee, then we also know that the judge is the Name, but only for this particular, constructive trust. Now, think about all the times that JATs have become so frustrated by our refusal to admit to being the Name that they issue a warrant and then, as soon as the man leaves, he is arrested. How idiotic is that? They must feel foolish for saying, John Doe is not in court so Im issuing a warrant for his arrest and then, the man whom they just admitted is NOT there is arrested because he IS there. Their desperation makes them insane, so they project that insanity onto us and order US to get psychological evaluations for THEIR insanity!!!) They must get us to admit to being the name, or they pay, and we must not accept their coercion, or we pay. Because the JAT is the trusteea precarious position, the best thing to say, in that case, is JOHN DOE is, indeed, in the court! Point to the JAT. It is YOU! As trustee, YOU are JOHN DOE, today, arent you?! During their frustration over our not admitting to being a trust namethe trustee and/or executor of the trust, we ought to ask who they are. Before we go any further, I need to know who YOU are. Address the clerk of the courtthe trustee for the CQV trust owned by the state/province, Are you the CQVs trustee who has appointed this judge as administrator and trustee of the constructive trust case #12345? Did you also appoint the prosecutor as executor of this constructive trust? Then point to the JAT: So you are the trustee, then point to the prosecutor, and you are the executor? And Im acting as beneficiary, so, now we know whos who and, as beneficiary, I authorize you to handle the accounting and dissolve this constructive trust. I now claim my body so I am collapsing the CQV trust which you have charged, as there is no value in

it. You have committed fraud against all laws! Likely, we will not get that far before the JAT will order Case dismissed or, even more likely, the PE, as he clings tightly to his cheque-book, will call, We withdraw the charges. We have exposed their fraud of the CQV trust which exists only on presumptions. The CQV has no corpus, no property, ergo, no value. Trusts are created only upon the conveyance of property and can exist only as long as there is value in the trust. But, there is no value in the CQV trust, yet, they continue to charge the trust. That is fraud! The alleged property is we men and women whom they have deemed to be incompetent, dead, abandoned, lost, bankrupts, or minors, but that is an illusion so, if we claim our body, then we collapse the presumption that the trust has value. They are operating in fraudsomething weve always known, but now we know how they do it. Our having exposed their fraud gives them only three options: 1. They can dissolve the CQV trustthe one for which the clerk of the court is trustee and from which s/he created a constructive trustthe casefor which s/he appointed the judge and prosecutor titles which hold temporary liabilitytrustee and executor, respectively. But they cannot dissolve the CQV or the entire global system will collapse because they cannot exist without our energy which they obtain via that CQV trust, not to mention that they do not want to do the accounting and disperse the funds to the beneficiaryus. We must challenge and resolve this on our own behalf, as the system is not prepared to do so. 2. They can enforce the existing rules of trust law which means, as trustee, they can set-off their debt and leave us alone. Now they know that we are onto their fraud and every time they go into court to administer a trust account, they will not know if we are the one who will send them to jail. The trustee (judge) is the liable party who will go to jail, and the executor (prosecutor) is the one who enforces this. This is why they want us to take on both titles, because then, not only do we go to jail but also, by signing their paper, we become executor and enforce our own sentence. They cannot afford to violate the ecclesiastical canon laws, out of fear of ending their careers, so they are, again, trapped with no place to run. 3. They can dismiss the cases before they even take the risk of our exposing their fraud . which also makes no sense because then their careers, again, come to a screeching halt. Whats a court clerk to do!? Pretty soon, none of these thugs will take any cases because the risk is too great. This will be the end of the court system. Bout bloody time, eh? Knowledgenot procedureis power. The means by which we have attempted to assuage our problems, inflicted upon us

by the PTW (powers that were) have all been superficial, compared to the origins of all the black magic, superstition, satanic ritualism, trickery, mind-control, and clandestine practices. Their ritual is vastly more important to them than their procedure and competence which is why their behaviour is so insane! So, it behooves us to know where all their ritualism began. Under commercial law, dating back to the Code of Ur-Nammuaround 2100 BCEthe use of anothers property without permission puts one into dishonor and makes him liable for any debts. So, our using UCC forms, bills of exchange, AFV, or bonds, and altering documents of the Roman System can create penalties, as this is trading and/or using the property of a corporation we do not own . the birth certificate proves that the name is, in fact, the property of the corporation which issued it. We can do all the paper perfectly but, in the end, they say, Sorry; youre not one of us. But, now, we get to inflict fear onto them. When we are forced to court, knowing that the Judge acts as the Trustee and the prosecutor acts as Executor of the CQV Trusts is empowering. It gives us two choices: 1. If we wish to expose the fraud of presumptions, by which the CQV trusts still exist, then the court is the perfect opportunity to have them dissolved or to prove the fraud because the Trustee is sitting on the bench. Dissolving the first CQV, dissolves them all; or, 2. If we are not inclined to use something like the Ecclesiastical Deed Poll to expose the fraud of the CQV Trusts, then, at least, we ought to know that everything the judge sayseven if it sounds like a command, order, or sentenceis actually an offer which we can choose to decline (I do not consent; I do not accept your offer). This is a fundamental principle of testamentary trusts the beneficiary can accept or decline what the trustee offers. For 15 years, I have watched the alleged solutions in commerce come and go and nothing has worked for enough people on enough occasions to call anything a consistent win. Paying for information is insanity because those who sell information clearly have not prevailed or they wouldnt need to sell anything, would they? Buying express, private-contract trusts, e.g.: NACRS, is a huge waste of time and money because the entire process is too complicated for anyone with an IQ below 400, they offer minimal assistance, and no refunds. I have found no solution in commerce because those who claim to have solutions still insist upon treating symptoms rather than curing the cause which is the fraudulent CQV trust. Tackling commerce within commerce wont work; we must tackle commerce from the paramount, ecclesiastical position. Only the Divine and True trusts are higher than a CQV trust. For a presentment of ANY kind, we ought to send an EDP. Carefully follow instructions at:

http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_1330.htm If we send an Ecclesiastical Deed Poll (EDP), the highest form of contract, as response, e.g.: to a summons or arrest warrant, then the judge who issues them has to think long and hard: Am I willing to gamble that the man who walks into my court might call me on my role of trustee and expose the fraud that the CQV Trusts are still in place? Canons of Positive Law: http://one-heaven.org/canons_positive_law/article_0000.htm Read it three times and it will shift your frequency and change your life. This knowledge is your power. Frank OCollins History of Trusts http://one-heaven.org/home.asp The 1st Trust of the world Unam Sanctam is one of the most frightening documents of history and the one most quoted as the primary document of the popes claiming their global power. It is an express trust deed. The last line reads: Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff. It is not only the first trust deed in history but also the largest trust ever conceived, as it claims the whole planet and everything on it, conveyed in trust. Triple Crown of Baal, aka the Papal Tiara and Triregnum In 1302 Pope Boniface issued his infamous Papal Bull Unam Sanctamthe first Express Trust. He claimed control over the whole planet which made him King of the world. In celebration, he commissioned a gold-plated headdress in the shape of a pinecone, with an elaborate crown at its base. The pinecone is an ancient symbol of fertility and one traditionally associated with Baal as well as the Cult of Cybele. It also represents the pineal gland in the centre of our brainscrystalline in nature which allows us access to Source, hence, the 13-foot tall pinecone in Vatican Square. Think about why the Pontiffs would idolize a pinecone. See: Pharmacratic Inquisition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvEHObMMH4 The 1st Crown of Crown Land Pope Boniface VIII was the first leader in history to create the concept of a Trust, but the first Testamentary Trust, through a deed and will creating a Deceased Estate, was created by Pope Nicholas V in 1455, through the Papal Bull Romanus Pontifex. This is only one of three (3) papal bulls to include the line with the incipit For a perpetual remembrance. This Bull had the effect of conveying the right of use of the land as Real Property, from the Express Trust Unam Sanctam, to the control of the Pontiff and his successors in perpetuity.

Hence, all land is claimed as crown land. This 1st Crown is represented by the 1st Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born. It deprives us of all beneficial entitlements and rights on the land. The 2nd Crown of the Commonwealth The second Crown was created in 1481 with the papal bull Aeterni Regis, meaning Eternal Crown, by Sixtus IV, being only the 2nd of three papal bulls as deeds of testamentary trusts. This Papal Bull created the Crown of Aragon, later known as the Crown of Spain, and is the highest sovereign and highest steward of all Roman Slaves subject to the rule of the Roman Pontiff. Spain lost the crown in 1604 when it was granted to King James I of England by Pope Paul V after the successful passage of the Union of Crowns, or Commonwealth, in 1605 after the false flag operation of the Gunpowder Plot. The Crown was finally lost by England in 1975, when it was returned to Spain and King Carlos I, where it remains to this day. This 2nd Crown is represented by the 2nd cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born and, by the sale of the birth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation, depriving us of ownership of our flesh and condemning us to perpetual servitude, as a Roman person, or slave. The 3rd Crown of the Ecclesiastical See The third Crown was created in 1537 by Paul III, through the papal bull Convocation, also meant to open the Council of Trent. It is the third and final testamentary deed and will of a testamentary trust, set up for the claiming of all lost souls, lost to the See. The Venetians assisted in the creation of the 1st Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540, to use this papal bull as the basis of Ecclesiastical authority of Henry VIII. This Crown was secretly granted to England in the collection and reaping of lost souls. The Crown was lost in 1816, due to the deliberate bankruptcy of England, and granted to the Temple Bar which became known as the Crown Bar, or simply the Crown. The Bar Associations have since been responsible for administering the reaping of the souls of the lost and damned, including the registration and collection of Baptismal certificates representing the souls collected by the Vatican and stored in its vaults. This 3rd Crown is represented by the 3rd Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is baptized. It is the parents grant of the Baptismal certificatetitle to the soulto the church or Registrar. Thus, without legal title over ones own soul, we will be denied legal standing and will be treated as thingscargo without soulsupon which the BAR is now legally, but certainly not lawfully or with any integrity, able to enforce Maritime law. The Cestui Que Vie Trust A Cestui Que Vie Trust is a fictional concept. It is a Temporary Testamentary Trust, first created during the reign of Henry VIII of England through the

Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540 and updated by Charles II, through the CQV Act of 1666, wherein an Estate may be effected for the Benefit of a Person presumed lost or abandoned at sea and therefore assumed dead after seven (7) years. Additional presumptions, by which such a Trust may be formed, were added in later statutes to include bankrupts, minors, incompetents, mortgages, and private companies. The original purpose of a CQV Trust was to form a temporary Estate for the benefit of another because some event, state of affairs, or condition prevented them from claiming their status as living, competent, and present, before a competent authority. Therefore, any claims, history, statutes, or arguments that deviate in terms of the origin and function of a CQV Trust, as pronounced by these canons, is false and automatically null and void. A Beneficiary under Estate may be either a Beneficiary or a CQV Trust. When a Beneficiary loses direct benefit of any Property of the higher Estate placed in a CQV Trust on his behalf, he does not own the CQV Trust; he only acts as beneficiary of what the Trustees of the CQV Trust choose to provide. As all CQV Trusts are created on presumption, based upon original purpose and function, such a Trust cannot be created if these presumptions can be proven not to exist. Since 1933, when a child is borne in a State (Estate) under inferior Roman law, three (3) Cestui Que (Vie) Trusts are created upon certain presumptions specifically designed to deny, forever, the child any rights of Real Property, any Rights to be free, and any Rights to be known as man or woman, rather than a creature or animal, by claiming and possessing their Soul or Spirit. The Executors or Administrators of the higher Estate willingly and knowingly: 1. convey the beneficial entitlements of the child, as Beneficiary, into the 1st Cestui Que (Vie) Trust in the form of a Registry Number by registering the Name, thereby also creating the Corporate Person and denying the child any rights to Real Property; and, 2. claim the baby as chattel to the Estate. The slave baby contract is then created by honoring the ancient tradition of either having the ink impression of the babys feet onto the live birth record, or a drop of its blood, as well as tricking the parents to signing the baby away through the deceitful legal meanings on the live birth record which is a promissory note, converted into a slave bond, sold to the private reserve bank of the estate, and then conveyed into a 2nd and separate CQV Trust, per child, owned by the bank. When the promissory note reaches maturity and the bank is unable to seize the slave child, a maritime lien is lawfully issued to salvage the lost property and is monetized as currency issued in series against the CQV Trust. 3. claim the childs soul via the Baptismal Certificate. Since 1540 and the creation of the 1st CQV Act, deriving its power from the Papal Bull of Roman Cult leader Pope Paul III, 1540, when a child is baptized and a Baptismal Certificate is issued, the parents have gifted, granted, and conveyed the soul of the baby to a 3rd CQV Trust owned by Roman Cult, which has held this valuable property in its vaults ever since. Since 1815, this 3rd Crown of the

Roman Cult and 3rd CQV Trust representing Ecclesiastical Property has been managed by the BAR as the reconstituted Galla responsible, as Grim Reapers, for reaping the souls. Each Cestui Que Vie Trust, created since 1933, represents one of the 3 Crowns representing the three claims of property of the Roman Cult: Real Property (on Earth), Personal Property (body), and Ecclesiastical Property (soul). Each corresponds exactly to the three forms of law available to the Galla of the BAR Courts: corporate commercial law (judge is the landlord), maritime and canon law (judge is the banker), and Talmudic law (judge is the priest). What is the real power of a court judge? Given what has been revealed about the foundations of Roman Law, what is the real hidden power of a judge when we face court? Is it their superior knowledge of process and procedure or of magic? Or is it something simpler and far more obvious? It is unfortunate that much of the excitement about Estates and Executors has deliberately not revealed that an Estate, by definition, has to belong to a Trustto be specific, a Testamentary Trust or CQV Trust. When we receive legal paper or have to appear in court, it is these same CQV Trusts which have our rights converted into the property contained within them. Instead of being the Trustee, or the Executor, or Administrator, we merely act as Beneficiary of each CQV Trust, granted only beneficial and equitable use of certain property, never legal title. So if the Roman Legal System assumes we are merely the beneficiary of these CQV Trusts, when we go to court, who represents the Trustee and Office of Executor? We all know that all cases are based upon the judges discretion which often defies procedures, statutes, and maxims of law. Well, they are doing what any Trustee or Executor, administering a trust in the presence of the beneficiary, can do under Roman Law and all the statutes, maxims, and procedures are really for show because under the principles of Trust Law, as first formed by the Roman Cult, a Trustee has a wide latitude, including the ability to correct any procedural mistakes, by obtaining the implied or tacit consent of the beneficiary, to obviate any mistakes. The judge is the real and legal Name. The judge is the trust, itself. We are the mirror image to themthe ghostthe dead. It is high sorcery, trickery, and subterfuge that has remained legal for far too long. Check back soon for addenda. -"Knowledge is the Best Investment" ( Ben Franklin ) ... Words from the first Freemason, deceptive President...telling us HE is FORCE OF FIRE.. And we BECOME the SERVANT of THEIR fear...... Can any one relate unto this unto this day????????????????

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington There's a maxim of law that says: let he who will be deceived, be deceived Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality." - Michael Ellner