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The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”

Athens, Greece 2008

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008

ATLANTIS ISLAND IS DISCOVERED

Atlantis Island

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008

Introduction
The location of Atlantis Island in relation with one of the palaeogeographic
image of Pannonian Basin rely on important previous studies:
1. Studies of mythical palaeogeography published in 1991, in Bratislava (The
XIIth International Congress of the Prehistoric and Protohistoric Sciences)
2. Studies of palaeogeography on the Panoniann Basin (2006 – The XVIIIth
Congress of the Carpathian – Balkans Geological Association - Belgrade)
3. Studies of paleoclimat (Oslo, 2008 – The 33rd International Geological
Congress – General contributions to climate change)

4. Bilateral Romanian - Hungarian cooperation (Geological Survey of


Romania–Bucharest and MAFI-Budapest ) – correlations of the Quaternary
deposits from the East edge of the Pannonian Basin

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
a. The myths of Atlantis
reflects exclusive
European
palaeogeographical
realities

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

b. These are
focused mainly on
the actual Middle
Danube Depression

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

Late
Quaternary
Pannonian
Basin

d. This has been isolated over 10 My ago from


the adjacent basins. The last possible
connection with the Dacic Basin (in the Middle
Pontian ) was interrupted about 7 My ago.

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

e. The Pannonian
Lake survived
during Quaternary
almost until the
end of the
Pleistocene,
namely until the
end of the
Paleolithic

f. The Iron Gates Gorge (s.l.) formation,


respectively the interruption of the endorheic
character of the Pannonian Basin, can be
connected to the moment of the Moon capture
by the Earth, about 39.000 years ago

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

g. This phenomenon can


be correlated to the huge
water flow that marked,
before the Great Flood,
the islands in the Northern
part of the Aegean Sea
(Diodorus Siculus)

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Important considerations: Athens, Greece 2008

Bratislava, 1991
h. After this
moment, in the
Pannonian
Depression
survived a relict
lake (the Relict
Pannonian
Lake), whose
shore
maintained till
the Great Flood
(thus until about
9.541 + 2008 = Deliblat
11.549 years area
ago) around the
+ 100 m
elevation Fruška Gora

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

i. The Pannonian
Relict Lake was
Fruška Gora characterized by the
presence of two
important islands.
The first
Deliblat corresponded to the
The Relict Pannonian area actual Hill Fruška
Lake Gora, and the
second one was
represented by
Deliblat area.

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
j. The Atlantis
Island (with
Atlantic Sea Poseidon’s
residence) can be
identified with the
actual Deliblat are
At (with a NW – SE
la orientation)
nt
is
Is
la
nd

Atlantic Sea

Pillars of
Heracles

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
k. On this Island (composed
at that time only by
Atlantic Sea Pleistocene deposits,
respectively by loess) was
placed the mountain not very
high and not very great from
At Evenor’s island, mountain
la placed in the actual Dumacia
nt
is summit area (today ~ 250 m).
Is
la
nd

Atlantic Sea
Pillars of
Heracles

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

l. The Atlantis “sunk” (from 11,549


years ago ), following a meteorites
rain that triggered the Great Flood
(biblical Flood), was due to the
great increase of the Pannonian
Lake level
“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
l’. The Atlantis “sunk” (from 11,549
years ago ), following a meteorites rain
that triggered the Great Flood (biblical
Flood), was due to the great increase of
the Pannonian Lake level

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

m. This increase
was accompanied
by huge
quantities of
alluvial deposits
(sands and muds)
accumulated
especially in
some areas of the
Relict Pannonian
Lake

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land” Athens,
Greece 2008
Important considerations:

n. One of the
important
accumulation areas
was represented by
the area of the
Atlantis Island, in
witch the actual
sand dunes
represented a part
of these delluvial
accumulations
(alluvial deposits)

Legend:
1 - Lakes and swamps; 2 - Holocene
sands; 3 - Actual lakes Balaton and
Neusiedl (Fertö); 4 - Land

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

o. The area in witch


Poseidon would had built
his “fortress” could be
placed in the SE of the
Atlantis Island

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

Loess deposit near


Dupljaja (Vojvodina,
Serbia)

p. If the hydrotechnic works of the


Atlantis Island represented a reality,
these were dug in the loess deposits
(fact that seems to be credible)

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

r. More precisely, the centre


of the Poseidon’s
settlement ( with the island
having a circular shape) can
be connected by the triangle
formed by the actual
heights Čardak (159,1 m ),
Keja Lahului (157 m), and
Crni vrh (189 m)

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

s. A more suitable
placement implies the
area with the actual
topographic name
“Eronja”, placed
between the heights
Čardak and Keja
Lahului

Eronja from
Enorja (by
rhotacism )
and Enorja
(Enoria) from
(Ev) enor =
Evenor

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
t. The toponyms Deliblato (Big Mud) and Major Bara (Big Swamp) from the
same area are in the favour of the proposed placement. Also Belgrade
(White Town) and Biserica Alba (Bela Crkva – White Church) toponyms
suggest the colour of the Olympian Gods (white). This placement is also
sustained by the Coronini toponym (with the hidden name of the Cronos )

Deliblat area

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
u. Pillars of Heracles reflect much subsequent
geographical reality in comparison with the Atlantis Sea
and can be connected to the area of the actual rock
Babacai, nearby Coronini village

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

u’. Pillars of Heracles

Babacai stone

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

Turdaş
Tărtăria
Atlantis Sea

Sarmisegetusa Regia

Atlantis Anina (Ion, the oldest man from


Island Europe) ~ 40,000 years
Herakles
Pillars of Heracles

Vinča
v.The reconsideration
Lepenski Vir of the archaeological
discoveries from
neighboring areas

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:
w. Sarmisegetusa Regia – the closest sacred
area of antiquity. The Dacian kingdom
(Burebista, Decebal), the closest imperial
power of the antiquity

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008
Important considerations:

x. Nowadays, the Platon’s


text (Critias) can be broken
up in distinct passages
referring to very different
paleogeographical realities,
repspectively:
Relict of Atlantic Sea 2. The Pannonian Lake
Deliblato village before the Moon capture
3. The Europe beyond this
lake ( Western Europe ) =
real and whole continent
4. The Atlantis Island
5.Fruška Gora Hill
6. The Atlantis Sea – the
Relict Pannonian Lake
7. The Middle Danube
Depression

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece 2008

ATLANTIS ISLAND IS DISCOVERED

The Evenor’s
Mountain

Eronja

“Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression”
Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
ABSTRACT of the paper “Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube
Depression” by Mircea Ţicleanu, Paul Constantin, Radu Nicolescu
presented at November 10, 2008 (Session 3) of The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land” Athens,
Greece 2008
T he attempts to identify the area that might correspond, undoubtfully, to the This civilization was based on the presence of some important natural resources
mythic land Atlantis, hadn’t succeeded so far, as they weren’t relied on the (forests, salt, gold, silver, copper etc) known even in the present in the Carpathians,
paleogeographic reality, very important for The Old World far history. These were which border the Pannonian Basin in the North, and in the East.
connected to the long maintenance in the present Depression of Middle Danube, thus This view might effectively solve not only the Atlantis location problem, but the
within the Pannonian Basin, of an endoreic region in which a huge lacustrian area connection to real geographic areas of some mythic paleogeographic data for which
survived: The Pannonian Lake. This was definitely isolated from the neighbored no viable solution was found so far, among there could be mentioned Thot Lake and
basins of the Central Paratethys about 7 m.y. ago and it maintained until prehistoric Ha Lake (Egyptian myths), Ginnunga Gap, Audhumbla, Yggdrasil and Asgard
time, as an inner sea characterized mainly by the presence of an archipelagos in its (Scandinavian myths), Cronus Sea (that became “The Dead Sea”) and Okeanos
Western part. Only after The Iron Gates Gorge shaping, probably during some (Greek myths), the Life Land and the Death Waters (Sumerian myths), Havila Lands,
cataclysms which affected the whole Earth, the old lake picture radically changed. In Cus Lands, and Asiria (in the Bible), Alybe (=Alybas) Lands (Homer) and Siriat
the South-Eastern part of the Pannonian Basin, a lake maintained for a long time. It (Egyptians). The mythic land Vanenheim (= the Land of Vans), whose name is kept by
was supplied mostly by the 4 main rivers of the Middle Danube Depression. the actual “Panonia” could be distinguished of all. Such point of view was sustained
The last huge catastrophe that struck this edenic humanity realm, about 11.600 by us even from 1991 [Ţicleanu et al., XIIth International Congress of the Prehistoric
years ago, was due to a meteorites rain that affected Terra, a well described rain from and Protohistoric Sciences, Bratislava].
the biblical text (Apocalypse of John). It was concentrated upon the Western area of The Pannonian Lake (“Atlantis Sea”) and the Atlantis Island disappearance
the Atlantic Ocean where a huge vapors mass appeared which turned towards East, following some successive catastrophes: floods, earthquakes, tsunami could led to the
and triggered The Great Flood (or Biblical Deluge) that could be better understood disappearance of the main material remains of Atlantis civilization described by Plato
only in connection with the Pannonian area paleogeography. The same catastrophe led and considered by many Atlantologists as very important criteria in searching the
to the last paleogeographic picture of the Pannonian Basin, meaning a relict lake Atlantis.
whose shore maintained for a long time at about +100 m height, and existed during the The population saved after such events kept in memory both the Flood myths,
Early Holocene [Ţicleanu et al., 2006 - The XVIIIth Congress of the Carpathian- and the Atlantis disappearance as well. Afterwards, these myths were brought in by
Balkans Geological Association, Belgrade]. the population spread in those areas. In addition, the old inhabitants of the Pannnonian
Picturing a Pannonian Atlantis might easily solve some location problems, space “exported” own toponyms of this primordial area in numerous regions where
difficult to be solved so far, and could very well answer the numerous criteria they settled on, after successive migrations. The relations between the Atlantes and the
proposed for a realistic search of this fascinating mythic land. Thus, the West old Greeks could be easily explained in connection to the Pannonian area as well, by
Pannonian archipelago allowed the finding of an island to which the Atlants capital the present toponyms with Greek mythic resonance from the North-West area of the
could be linked. The Pannonian Lake corresponded to the Atlantes navigable sea, Apuseni (Western) Mountains.
placed “beyond” the “Pillars of Herakles”, that could be found only within the area of There had to be mentioned the “trend” to find a solution for the Atlantis problem
the Iron Gates gorge, as a few antic authors (i. e. Pindar) or actual ones (i. e. according to the information, unjustified absoluted many times, offered by Plato in his
Densusianu), and as a lot of myths and toponyms connected to the mythic hero writings, in the terms in which extremely precious data were comprised in other antic
Hercule did. The sudden disappearance of the Pannonian Lake might explain the authors writings, among which Diodorus Siculus with his “Biblioteca Historica”,
appearance of some fine, unconsolided sediments (mud) that isolated for a while the mainly from the traditions regarding the Amazons.
off-islands of the Pannonian Lake. The moment of the Atlantis “sunken” can be One should not neglect that from the near close of this area there were some
established together with the meteorites rain from about 9.541 B.C. (a much closer world priorities: “The Mesolithic Paradise” (Lepenski Vir – 9.000 BP), the oldest
data to the one mentioned by Plato). The Atlantes civilization (which beyond the world known writing (Vinca, Tartaria – about 7.500 BP), the oldest ceramic tubes
archipelago included as well areas from the Pannonian Lake shores, thus the total area network for drinkable water (inside the area of the old Dacian capital from
was closed to the one estimated by Plato) developed in a mild climate, influenced by Sarmizegetusa Regia, in the South Carpathians - about 7.000 BP). In addition there
the Atlantis position in connection to a huge water mass and the presence of some had to be mentioned the Dacian sanctuary presence from Sarmizegetusa, a proof of a
important hydrothermal resources, known even nowadays inside the Pannonian Basin very developed civilization, placed within the central area already known as “The Old
(nowadays there could be found the largest thermal lake in the world – the Héviz Europe”
Lake, and about 1500 thermal springs as well). Mircea ŢICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
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PROGRAM
ULUGERGELI E. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
November 10, 2008 KUUMLRCER A. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
09:00 Welcome EKINCI Y.L. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
FYTIKAS M. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE November 10, 2008
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE 11:20 - 13:20 Session 2
09:10 The myth of Gaia, from Bronze age to modern scientific era 12:40 Copper and tin-bronze in the Bronze and Iron Ages in the Western
PAVLIDES S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE Mediterranean: The Iberian Peninsula
09:40 - 11:00 Session 1 ROVIRA S. Museo Arqueologico Nacional SPAIN
09:40 Crete Thera Atlantis: Culture and Writing 13:00 An active Greek Bronze age trading centre in SE Sweden
FACCHETTI G. Universita Grave dell’Insubria ITALY MORNER N.A. Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics SWEDEN
NEGRI M. IULM University, MILAN ITALY LIND H. Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics SWEDEN
NOTTI E. IULM University MILAN ITALY 14:40 - 16:20 Session 3
10:00 The story of Atlantis and Plato’s intentions 14:40 Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to
PARISAKI T. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
10:20 11500 years ago ? TICLEANU M. Geological Institute of Romania ROMANIA
VIENI R. Independent Researcher ITALY CONSTANTIN P. Independent Researcher ROMANIA
10:40 World maps from the Stone Age? New rock drawings show unbelievable NICOLESCU R. Geological Institute of Romania ROMANIA
knowledge of prehistoric cultures 15:00 Atlantis in South Spain - a realistic hypothesis
GOERLITZ D. ILZ University Bonn GERMANY WICKBOLDT W. Independent Researcher GERMANY
11:20 - 13:20 Session 2 15:20 Atlantis, the last heir of an old legacy
11:20 The strange and undocumented discoveries of Antarctica and South America RODRIGUEZ SANCHEZ J.J. Ayuntamiento de Madrid SPAIN
WEIHAUPT J. University of Colorado UNITED STATES 15:40 The Achaeans’ coming to Lamos’ kingdom in the Atlantic Ocean
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
11:40 Atlantis’ position, shape and dimensions 16:00 Flooding of the North Evia Gulf pre-historic lake and a possible
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE meteorite impact in Late Pleistocene Early Holocene
12:00 New palaeobotanical and paleoclimatical data from the fossil Quaternary flora in SAKELLARIOU D. Hellenic Centre of Marine Research GREECE
the caldera walls of the Santorini island 16:50 - 18:30 Session 4:
VELITZELOS E. University of Athens GREECE 16:50 Atlantis: Lost Kingdom of the Andes
12:20 Skepticism on the geomorphological and archaeoseismological evolution of Troy ALLEN J. Independent Researcher UNITED KINGDOM
plain and fault, based on new field data 17:10 Atlantis in Hispaniola: further discussion
PAVLIDES S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE SPEDICATO E. University of Bergamo ITALY
CHATZIPETROS A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE 17:30 Examining the relationship between Ogygia island and Atlantis
MICHAILIDOU A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE GEORGIANNIS V. Technological Education Institute of Piraeus GREECE
SBORAS S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE 17:50 Atlantis in Middle America
SYRIDES G. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE TEELUCK J. Independent Researcher CANADA
VALKANIOTIS S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE 18:10 Rethinking Atlantis: Three events that shaped the legend
VOUVALIDIS K. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE KONTARATOS A. Independent Researcher GREECE
ZERVOPOULOU A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
TUTKUN S.Z. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
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November 11, 2008
09:00 - 11:00 Session 5
15:00 The search for lost Atlantis in the marine region westwards of Santorini
09:00 A focus on the geologic sciences related to Atlantis-Bakhu: Can a
island- Program Atlantis 2003 - Preliminary results
paradigm shift solve the mystery?
MITROUSIS A. Hellenic Center for Marine Research GREECE
WELLS G. Wells Research UNITED STATES
15:20 King Italos = King Atlas of Atlantis?
09:20 Plato’s Atlantis story is his humorous legacy in the form of an ironical
FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY
brainteaser
15:40 Minoan tsunami deposits on the coast of Crete and their relation to the
SCHWEITZER E. Independent Researcher GERMANY
Santorini eruption
09:40 Testing Plato’s statement of prehistoric catastrophes in Greece, at
SIGURDSSON H. University of Rhode Island UNITED STATES
Rharion field and in the Eleusis gulf
CAREY S. University of Rhode Island UNITED STATES
STAMOU A. Eleusinan Studies Center “Daira” GREECE
ALEXOPOULOS G. Third Ephorate of Antiquities GREECE
10:00 The four main questions of the great logical myth of Atlantis
VAKIRTZI S. Akrotiri Archeological Institute GREECE
MITROPETROU E. University of Patras GREECE
VOUGIOUKALAKIS G. Institute of Geology and Mineral Exploration GREECE
10:20 Denudation of Atlantis and its resemblance to the mythology of
Dwarka - a geomythological analysis
November 11, 2008
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
16:00 - 16:40 Session 8: Posters
10:40 Circumstantial Evidence for Plato’s Island Atlantis in the Souss-
01. A hidden calendar in the Atlantis story
Massa-Draa Region of today’s South Morocco
PLIAKOS A. Pliakou Language Schools GREECE
HUEBNER M. Independent Researcher GERMANY
02. A new map for the lost Atlantis - The sinking of Atlantis happened, at least, in
11:20 - 13:20 Session 6
two destructions
11:20 Plato’s “atlantida nesos” as the island of Meroe
PASCHOS T. Independent Researcher GREECE
GHEMBAZA T. Independent Researcher FRANCE
03. Archaeoastronomy, and the Proto-Greek pre-cartographic knowledge of the
11:40 The truth status of Plato’s Atlantic tale
world
BERGMAN J. Independent Researcher SWEDEN
GREGORY G. International Centre for Earth Sciences ITALY
12:00 Evidence for a Large Neolithic Settlement in a Caldera-Like
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
Geomorphologic Structure in South-West Morocco
GREGORY L. International Centre for Earth Sciences ITALY
HUEBNER M. Independent Researcher GERMANY
04. Archaeological excavations at Indus valley sites correlate with description of
HUEBNER S. Independent Researcher GERMANY
Atlantis continent and Atlantis city
12:20 The constitutional and economic structure of Atlantis
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
BALOGLOU C. Hellenic Telecommunications Organization S.A. GREECE
05. Are medieval planispheres representing late Pleistocene Antarctica?
12:40 Plato’s justification to call the Atlantic panpelagos and not ocean
BARBIERO F. Independed Researcher ITALY
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
06. Aristotle?s notes regarding the location of Erytheia- a second look at the Myth
COSSEYAN C. School Advisor GREECE
KATSAROS T. University of Aegean GREECE
13:00 That’s why Atlantis must be located within Mediterranean Sea
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
MONTE L. Indipendent Researcher ITALY
COSSEYAN C. School Advisor GREECE
14:40 - 16:00 Session 7
07. Atlantis in Antarctica
14:40 Modeling of tsunami generated during the Minoan eruption of Thera
BARBIERO F. Independed Researcher ITALY
and evaluation of nearshore wave amplitudes and run-up along coastal
08. Atlantis mythology and it’s correlation to Vedic mythology
areas of the southern Aegean Sea.
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
McCOY F. University of Hawaii GREECE
NOVIKOVA T. National Observatory of Athens GREECE
PAPADOPOULOS G. National Observatory of Athens GREECE
The 2nd International Conference “Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land”
Athens, Greece
SCHOPPE 2008Researcher GERMANY
C. Independent
09. Atlantis on Lesvos, Greece
ANAGNOSTOPOULOS P. Independent Researcher GREECE SCHOPPE S. Independent Researcher GERMANY
10. Crop and shamanic plants on both sides of the Atlantic support the theory 23. The Egyptian origin of Plato’s Atlantic tale
of an ancient trans-Atlantic exchange BERGMAN J. Independent Researcher SWEDEN
GOERLITZ D. ILZ University Bonn GERMANY 11. Evidence of presentation 24. The Plato’s unfinished trilogy (Timaeus, Critias, Hermocrates), mythological
of Dholavira site - matching the criterias laid down by the Atlantis Hypothesis: traditions and archaeological data. A cross-curricular approach.
searching for a lost land conference 2005 TSAKOPOULOS F. Panteion University of Social & Political Sciences of Athens
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM GREECE
12. First Images of mythic Atlantis from satellites 25. The Sekmet-Phaeton catastrophe, in 1300 B.C.
COSCI M. Independent Researcher ITALY COMBES M.A. Independed Rerearher FRANCE
13. Heracles’ Pillars 26. The Thera Volcano at the Transition between the Cycladic Thrustbelt and the
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE Streched Continental Crust of the Cretan Sea
14. Land and marine calendrical systems of prehiostoric Crete. PAPOULIA J. Hellenic Centre for Marine Research GREECE
REGORIADES P. Independent Researcher GREECE MAKRIS J. University of Hamburg & GeoPro GmbH GREECE
15. Neolithic and Early Bronze Age technological innovations 27. The coastal cross-flow Cephalonia’s paradox: A lost Atlantic attractor?
BASSIAKOS Y. NCSR Demokritos GREECE STERGIOPOULOS V. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed. GREECE
16. Nicotine and cocaine in man made and nature made Egyptian mummies STERGIOPOULOU A. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed.GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE STERGIOPOULOS G. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed.GREECE
17. Odysseus’ transatlantic “imaginary” craft 28. The descriptions of TIMAIOS and KRITIAS, from the point of view of a
SIDERIS M. Independent Reasearcher GREECE researcher and not a Reader.
18. On the reversal of earth rotation axis SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
SPEDICATO E. University of Bergamo ITALY 29. The event 10,000 years ago
19. Post Atlantis migration of people to Europe - Is evidence of migration of COMBES M.A. Independed Rerearher FRANCE
Indus people indicative of migration to Europe 30. The importance of Herodotus’ Histories for the Atlantis problem
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY
20. Testing Plato’s geomorphological statements of Achean’s country land 31. The mythical Thule to be located in Iceland?
GIANAZZA G. Independent Researcher ITALY
CHALARI A. University of Patras GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE STUCCHI M. Istituto Nazionale di Geofisica e Vulcan ITALY
FERENTINOS S. University of Patras GREECE 32. The true dimensions of Libya, Asia and Atlantis
GEGARA M. University of Patras GREECE SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
PAPATHEODOROU G. Univeristy of Patras GREECE 33. Topographical analysis of Atlantis description correlates with South Asian
21. The Achaeans coming in Africa and the island of Pharos location
CHALARI A. University of Patras GREECE KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE 34. Where was Plato’s Atlantic Sea located? - Comparism of different mythological
PAPATHEODOROU G. Univeristy of Patras GREECE traditions
FERENTINOS S. University of Patras GREECE BREMER D. Independent Researcher GERMANY
22. The Atlantis research charter. A defined position in the colourful world of
Atlantis research 16:40 - 18:00 Session 9 - Closing Remarks
FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY KONTARATOS A. Independent Researcher GREECE
HOFMANN U. Independent Researcher GERMANY PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE

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