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Notebook Power System

Introduction & Troubleshooting

PE
Mike Lee
03/29/2004
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Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

Who should attend this eLearning


Target audience
All electrical engineers such as:
PE, TE, FAE, CSD
Pre-requisite
Electronic circuits
Digital logic circuits
Multi-meter used
Course content
Power system & Sequence
Troubleshooting( )
Would not introduce
Power transfer principle ( PWM-Plus
width Modulation & LDO Low Drop-Out regulator )

Charger

After this course, you will


Know how to debug no power problems
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Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

Outline
Outline( ) :
1. Power system architecture :
1.1 NB power system introduction
1.2 Power sequence and control
2. Power plan introduction :
2.1 Power budget( ) block diagram
2.2 NB power application
2.3 Multipower device
3. No power debug :
3.1 No power debug notice & sequence
3.2 DCBATOUT short( ) to GND
3.2 S5 Power No Good
3.3 Power on logic No Good
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Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

Foreword
Foreword :
As we know, notebook power is provided by adaptors
(19V) or batteries (14.8V ). However, the various( )
power voltages do not fit( ) all devices in a notebook
unit. So a series of voltage transfer actions are needed to
provide power to all devices. (Problems may arise( )
during the voltage transfer.)
As notebook is a portable computer, saving power is
also very important when the system is in battery mode.
In this lesson, we will use the Yuhina power circuit to
introduce the notebook power system.

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

1.Power system architecture

1 of 4

1.1 NB (Yuhina) power system : AUX Power


5V_S3
DCBATOUT

AD+

1
P-MOS
SI4425

4
Charger

N-MOS
FD9412

PWM
3
5V_S5
MAX1999 Max1999_LDO5
5V_AUX_S5
+5V_UP_S5

PWM

3D3V_S5

N-MOS
FD9412

N-MOS
FD9412

3D3V_LAN_S5

LDO
G913C

1D5V_S5

P-MOS
SI4425

3D3V_S3

N-MOS
FD9412

VCC_CORE_S0
2D5V_S3
PWM
MAX1715

PWM
MAX1546
N-MOS
FD9412
LDO
G913C

S5 Power
Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

3D3V_S0

5V_S0

4
BT+

S3 Power

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0
1D5V_S0

S0 Power

1.Power system architecture

2 of 4

1.1 NB (Yuhina) power system : S5 Power


5V_S3
DCBATOUT

AD+

1
P-MOS
SI4425

4
Charger

N-MOS
FD9412

PWM
3
5V_S5
MAX1999 Max1999_LDO5
5V_AUX_S5
+5V_UP_S5

PWM
MAX1645

3D3V_S5

N-MOS
FD9412

N-MOS
FD9412

3D3V_LAN_S5

LDO
G913C

1D5V_S5

P-MOS
SI4425

3D3V_S3

N-MOS
FD9412

VCC_CORE_S0
2D5V_S3
PWM
MAX1715

PWM
MAX1546
N-MOS
FD9412
LDO
G913C

S5 Power
Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

3D3V_S0

5V_S0

4
BT+

S3 Power

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0
1D5V_S0

S0 Power

1.Power system architecture

3 of 4

1.1 NB (Yuhina) power system : S3 Power


5V_S3
DCBATOUT

AD+

1
P-MOS
SI4425

4
Charger

N-MOS
FD9412

PWM
3
5V_S5
MAX1999 Max1999_LDO5
5V_AUX_S5
+5V_UP_S5

PWM
MAX1645

3D3V_S5

N-MOS
FD9412

N-MOS
FD9412

3D3V_LAN_S5

LDO
G913C

1D5V_S5

P-MOS
SI4425

3D3V_S3

N-MOS
FD9412

2D5V_S3
PWM
MAX1715

PWM
MAX1546
N-MOS
FD9412
LDO
G913C

S5 Power
Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

3D3V_S0

5V_S0

4
BT+

S3 Power

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0
1D5V_S0

S0 Power

1.Power system architecture

4 of 4

1.1 NB (Yuhina) power system : S0 Power


5V_S3
DCBATOUT

AD+

1
P-MOS
SI4425

4
Charger

N-MOS
FD9412

PWM
3
5V_S5
MAX1999 Max1999_LDO5
5V_AUX_S5
+5V_UP_S5

PWM
MAX1645

3D3V_S5

N-MOS
FD9412

N-MOS
FD9412

3D3V_LAN_S5

LDO
G913C

1D5V_S5

P-MOS
SI4425

3D3V_S3

N-MOS
FD9412

2D5V_S3
PWM
MAX1715

PWM
MAX1546
N-MOS
FD9412
LDO
G913C

S5 Power
Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

3D3V_S0

5V_S0

4
BT+

S3 Power

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0
1D5V_S0

S0 Power

1.2 Power sequence and control


Why do we need to differentiate power type among( ... ) AUX,S5,
S3,S0 ?How do we control them ?
Here is the answer:
AUX Power : For power button use , it is turned on with battery only
before you press the power button .

S5 Power :

For power button & wake on LAN use , it is turned on


with adapter before you press the power button .

S3 Power :

For stand_by mode use , it is turned on with South bridge


PM_SLP_S3# after you press the power button .

S0 Power :

For normal mode use , it is turned on with South bridge PM_SLP_S4# after you press the power button .

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

Block Diagram :

AD+

BAT only

DCBATOUT

or

AUX
Power

AUX_S5

S5
Power

3D3V_S5
1D5V_S5

AC_IN
For power button use

10

For power button &


wake on LAN use

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

S3
Power

5V_S3
3D3V_S3
2D5V_S3

PM_SLP_S4#

For stand_by
mode use

S0
Power

5V_S0
3D3V_S0
2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0
Vco_S0

PM_SLP_S3#

For normal mode use

1.2.1 AUX_Power
DCBATOUT

26
27
24
22

c. The 5V_AUX_S5 is never off when


MAX1999 is working, unless
something goes wrong with
MAX1999 .

3
4
6

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

BST5

DH3

DH5

LX3

LX5

DL3

DL5
OUT5

FB3

FB5

ON3
ON5

PRO#
NC

SHDN#

ILIM5
13

11

BST3

OUT3
7

TON

REF

PGOOD
GND
LDO5

SKIP#
LDO3

12

ILIM3

MAX1999EEI
25

b. The AUX power is used on


power on logic & South Bridge.
As it is battery only, the leakage
current must be as little as possible.
In general, it is about 5~6 mA.

17
VCC

28

MAX1999_LDO3

18

a. When the battery or adaptor is


plugged-in( ), DCBATOUT will
input the power into MAX1999 pin
20_V+ , and pin 18 LDO5 will
provide the 5V_AUX_S5 power .

V+

20

U31

MAX1999_LDO5 = 5V_S5

30mA MAX.

14
16
15
19
21
9

10
1

11
5
2
23

1.2.2 S5_Power
a. Circuit operation Power on logic :
1 The AC_IN signal was pulled hi when Adaptor was inserted .
2 Power on logic will output MAX1999_SD hi to trigger 3D3V_S5.

As a result, when Adaptor is inserted but power button has yet been
pressed,the S5_power will be turned on first .
5V_AUX_S5
1

5V_S5

2
2

10KR3

5V_AUX_S5

U51

Hi

5V_AUX_S5

R471
100KR3

Low

R481
6

U50C
TSAHCT14

Hi

NC7SZ08-U

GND

2
3

14

BL3#
M1631_EN

PWRBTN_74

10

Hi
U36C
TSAHCT32

Hi

2
2

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

AC_IN
R314
100KR3

100KR3

10KR3

2N7002
1

14

VCC

Q51

12

MAX1999_SD_3

5V_AUX_S5

R267

b. Circuit operation 3D3V_S5 :


When MAX1999 Pin 3(ON3) pull hi, the 3D3V_S5 will be turn on.
C194
1

R608

U31

220KR3

L21
IND-4D7UH-16
68.4R71B.101
1

MAX1999_DH3

26

MAX1999_LX3

27

MAX1999_DL3

24

C627
SC47P50V2JN
MAX1999_LX3_1

R598
6K65R3F

C636

VCC
BST5

DH3

DH5

LX3

LX5

DL3

DL5

OUT3
7

R590
2MR3

SC100P50V2JN

V+

22

12

TC30
ST100U4VBM

C622
SCD1U25V3KX

BST3

14

2
1

3D3V_DC_S5

3D3V 3.8A/6.9A

MAX1999_BST3_1
28

17

Q22
SI4834DY

20

C198
SC4D7U25V6KX
2

SCD1U25V3KX

DCBATOUT

MAX1999_SD_3
MAX1999_ON5

3
4

MAX1999_SHDN#

OUT5

FB3

FB5

ON3
ON5

PRO#
NC

16
15
19
21
9

10
1

SHDN#

MAX1999_FB3

1
R304

R575
1KR3

R604
10KR3F

MAX1999_VCC

R300
DUMMY-10KR3

ILIM5
2

MAX1999_TON

13

TON
ILIM3

11
5

0R3-U
8

MAX1999_REF

REF

PGOOD

C236
SKIP#

GND
LDO5

PM_SLP_S4#

LDO3

12

2
14,15,36,37

SCD22U10V3KX

MAX1999_LDO3

13

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

18

25

MAX1999EEI

23

c. Circuit operation LAN & 1D5V_S5 power :


1 When AC_IN is HI,
2 The MOS-U13 will be turned on, and 3D3V_LAN_S5 will be generated.
This power is for wake on LAN function.
3 The 1D5V_S5 LDO power will be turned on by 3D3V_S5 .
This power is for south bridge for wake on LAN usage .
Because adaptor power was inserted already, the Battery leakage current is not
a concern now
3D3V_S5

5
6
7
8

LAN Power

1D5V_S5 LDO

D
D
D
D

U13

1D5V_S5

FDS9412

Q11
TP0610T

R105
2

D3

BC27

1
2
3

R95
330KR3

3
2

U24

RLZ12B
1KR3

OUT

5
4

R546
60K4R3F

R101

SET

330KR3

SHDN#
GND
IN

R540
12K4R3D

Low

R107

C172
SC20P

3D3V_LAN_S5

10KR3

3D3V_S5

Hi

4
3
2
1

DCBATOUT

G
S
S
S

2N7002

Hi

U14
4
5

Y
VCC

3D3V_S5

14

G913C-U

NC7SZ32-U

C593
2

Q10

C176
GND
B
A

3
2
1

I max = 120 mA

PM_SLP_S3#

AC_IN

Hi

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

C240
2

C211
SC4D7U25V6KX

SI4800

1
5
6
7
8
D
D
D
D

U29

BST5

DH3

DH5

14

MAX1999_BST5_1

24
22

LX3

LX5

DL3

DL5

OUT3

OUT5

FB3

FB5

MAX1999_LX5

19

MAX1999_DL5

4
3
2
1

15

21
9

L24
IND-5D6UH-6-U

5V_S3
2

U33

MAX1999_FB5

C251
SC47P50V2JN

D
D
D
D

MAX1999_DH5

27

16

5
6
7
8

26

BST3

G
S
S
S

28

VCC

V+

MAX1999_BST3_1

0R3-U

R581
0R3-U

17

U31
20

R263

DCBATOUT

BC46

C626

SCD1U16V3KX

1.2.3 S3_Power
1.2.3 S3_Power
a. Circuit operation 5V_S3 :
When the power button was pressed, south bridge will pull hi the
PM_SLP_S4#, and 5V_S3 power will be generated .

TC33
2

G
S
S
S

SHDN#

11

MAX1999_ILIM5

MAX1999_ILIM3

MAX1999_PGD

SI4892DY

R266
100KR3

R286
2MR3

10
1

15KR3F
C641

PRO#
NC

ON3
ON5

TON

REF

PGOOD

MAX1999_LDO5

10KR3

2
2

MAX1999_ILIM5_3

R280

18

MAX1999EEI
25

23

R580

R277
18KR3F

GND

LDO5

SKIP#
LDO3

12

MAX1999_FB5

24KR3
R260

ILIM3

13

R610
9K76R3F

ILIM5

SB

R607

0R3-U

15

MAX1999_LX5_1

4
3
2
1

MAX1999_ON5

PM_SLP_S4#

3
4

MAX1999_SD_3

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

MAX1999_VCC

b. Circuit operation 3D3V_S3 :


3D3V_S3 power is generated by U25 N-MOS from 3D3V_S5 when
PM_SLP_S4# is hi .

1
1

10KR3
3

C281
SCD1U50V5KX

R302
330KR3

D19
RLZ12B

Low

R311

3D3V_S3
1
2
3
4

330KR3
R315
1KR3

Hi
1
G

Q53
2N7002

S
2

PM_SLP_S4#

32

Hi

16

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

3D3V_S5

R305

U25
G
S
S
S

Q32
TP0610T

FDS9412

D
D
D
D

DCBATOUT

8
7
6
5

c. Circuit operation 2D5V_S3 :


When 5V_S3 power was building, MAX1715 pin 11 is pulled hi, and
2D5V_S3 will be turned on .
PM_SLP_S3#

DCBATOUT
2

1
SI4800

M1715BST2
1

C191

BAW56-1

G
S
S
S

ILIM1

FB2
ILIM2

AGND
PGND
PGOOD

TON
REF

17

SSM24L

2
M1715FB2

12

M1715ILIM2

5
9

U61

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

D45

0R3-0-U
2

14
13

R593

C208

R592
0R3-0-U

U69
SI4892DY

M1715DL2

28
15
23

MAX1715EEI-U2

1
2

19

R555
1

N.C.
N.C.
N.C.

OUT2

FB1

M1715LX2

TC32
ST220U4VDM-6
2
1

OUT1

16

L25
IND-5D6UH-6-U

DL2

M1715DH2

17

2D5V_S3

5
6
7
8

LX2

DL1

D
D
D
D

LX1

24

22

DH2

SCD1U25V3KX

G
S
S
S

DH1

27

6
18

4
3
2
1

26

SKIP#
BST2

C207

BST1

0R3-0-U

25

R591

V+
VCC
VDD

ON2
ON1

4
3
2
1

2D5D_S3_ON

U65

C213

0R3-0-U

D10

4
21
20

0R3-0-U

11
10

R577
1
R582
1

5
6
7
8

5V_S3
D
D
D
D

10R3

R249
1

d. S3 power Purpose :
Why Notebook needs S3 power Stand-by mode function ?
The stand-by mode function is for power saving when the system is not
operated just as the below setting. So, the S3 power is for this usage.
The system will enter the stand-by mode
if NB remains not operated during 30 mins.
During stand-by mode if power button is
pushed, the system will return to previous
state in 5 sec .
Because the state is resumed from
memory, we need S3 power to keep North
Bridge & DDR working while standing by.
At this state, the battery leakage current is
under 30 mA.

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Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

1.2.3 S0_Power
a. Circuit operation 1D5V_S0 :
After PM_SLP_S4# signal was generated for a few sec , the
South Bridge will output PM_SLP_S3# on hi level, and 1D5V_S0 will
be turned on .
DCBATOUT

R249
1

10R3

PM_SLP_S3#

C210

0R3-0-U
2
0R3-0-U

1
R556
5K1R3F

IND-4D7UH-16

3
M1715DH1_1
R554
1

26

0R3-0-U
2

M1715DH1
M1715LX1

27

M1715DL1

24

4
21
20

BST1

SKIP#
BST2

DH1
DH2
LX1
LX2
DL1
DL2

2
TC31

1
M1715FB1

ST100U4VBM

SSM24L

25

0R3-0-U

M1715DL1_1
D11

R553
1

C188
SCD1U25V3KX

SI4834DY

ON2
ON1

U62

L23

1D5V_S0

11
10

V+
VCC
VDD

R577
1
R582
1

SC1U10V3ZY
C610

C189

R558
300KR3

M1715ILIM1

3
8

10KR3F

R549

22

OUT2
ILIM1

FB2
ILIM2

AGND
PGND
PGOOD

TON
REF

19

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

28
15
23

U61

MAX1715EEI- U2

17
16
19
14

FB1

N.C.
N.C.
N.C.

OUT1

6
18

13
12
5
9

b. Circuit operation 5V,3D3V,&2D5V_S0 :


PM_SLP_S3# signal is also used to turn on 5V 3D3V 2D5V_S0.

Run Power
1

R307

D16
RLZ12B
1

1
2
3
4

1
32

Q33
2N7002

2D5V_S3

1
2
3
4

8
7
6
5

FDS9412

2D5V_S0

PM_SLP_S3#

3D3V_S5

U26

330KR3
R306
1KR3

FDS9412

3D3V_S0

2
2

R609
330KR3

8
7
6
5

U32

8
7
6
5
1

C645
SCD1U50V5KX

10KR3

G
S
S
S

D
D
D
D

G
S
S
S

R308

U35

1
2
3
4

D
D
D
D

TP0610T

G
S
S
S

Q28

5V_S3

D
D
D
D

DCBATOUT

5V_S0

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Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

C235
2

C283

c. Circuit operation P4 CPU VCC_CORE_S0 :

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-- P4 CPU_ VCO power architecture :

1546
DHM & DLM

3D3V_S0

Phase 1
Power module
DCBATOUT

LDO
CM2843

DCBATOUT

PWRGD_VID

PWM
MAX1546

Phase 2
Power module

6
VCC_CORE_S0

DCBATOUT

1D2V_VID

H_VID0~5

CPU
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Phase 3
Power module
p.s. As one phase of power module can
only supply 25A, and Yuhina CPU needs
66A, therefore 3 phrases are required.

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c. Circuit operation P4 CPU VCC_CORE_S0 :


3D3V_S0 power on .
CM2843 provides 1D2V_VID to CPU.
CPU provides VID code
PWRGD_VID, which is provided by CM2843, will delay 1ms
while 1D2V_VID is on. So it will be turned on after the CPU VID code.

1
2
3
4

3D3V_S0

FOR NORTHWOOD ONLY

1 R334

FS_X

100KR3
BC16
SC1U10V3ZY

RB2
47KR3

1
2
3

VIN
GND
EN

OUT

CM2843ACIM25

PG

CPU

BC9
1

BCB1
SCD1U

300mA SUPPORT

1mS Minimum Request (1D2V_VID TO PWRGD_VID)


22

R19
0R3-0-U

C21
SCD015U25V3KX
2

RB1
330KR3

H_VID0~6

MIC5258_EN

1D2V_VID

U1

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

PWRGD_VID

3 of 4

c. Circuit operation P4 CPU VCC_CORE_S0 :

MAX1546 Power is ready .


CM1843 generates 1D2V_VID to CPU.
3 CPU provides the VID0~5 to the MAX1546 ..
4 CM1843 will send PWRGD_VID as Hi after 1ms that 1D2V_VID was generated.
5 MAX1546 will output the switching signal .
1
2

DCBATOUT_VCPU

5V_S0

CPU
3
H_VID0
H_VID1
H_VID2
H_VID3
H_VID4

H_VID5

24
23
22
21
20
19

PWRGD_VID

40
39
LXM
BSTM
VROK

D0
D1
D2
D3
D4
D5

CCV
DLS
LXS
ILIM

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GND
GND
41
11

GNDS
P GND
13
31

BSTS
35

FB
15

S0
S1
4
5

U21
MAX1546ETL

16
17

0R3-U

32
32
32
32
32

CS P
CS N

38
37
CMN
CMP

DLM
DHM

OA INOA IN+

R631

1546DHS
1546CM1546CM+
1546CS+
1546CS-

S C470P 50V 3JN


C519
33
DHS

TIME
TON
MUXSEL
OFS
REF
CCI

5
5
5
5
5

14

1
2
3
7
8

S K IP #
S HDN#

V+

V CC
V DD

S C1U10V 3ZY
C127
2
1
18 S C1U25V -U
C137
6

10
30

R148
Dum my-10KR2

1D2V_VID

36

B C84
S C1U10V 3K X
2
1

RN9

SRN10K-2

PWRGD_VID

1
2
3
4

CM1843

PM_DPRSLPVR#

R187
10R3

R147
10KR2

8
7
6
5

3D3V_S0

29
28
27
26
25

12
32
34
9

5
5

c. Circuit operation P4 CPU VCC_CORE_S0 :


5
6

4 of 4

The step-down circuit starts working as soon as the switch signal begins.
The VCC_CORE is produced and will provide the CPUs working power .
PS. This is one of the three phases in VCC_CORE.
DCBATOUT_VCPU
1
1

C480
1

1546CM+
1546CM-

2
DUMMY-SC10U35V0ZY-U
2
SC10U35V0ZY-U

G4

2
DUMMY-C3

GAP-CLOSE-PWR

C485

2
SC10U35V0ZY-U

VCC_CORE

C118
SCD1U50V3KX

C490

1546BST M

Q45
SUD50N03-11

Q44
SUD50N03-11

1546BSTM

C511

DCBATOUT_VCPU

1546DHM

1546LXM

1546DLM

L13
L-D5UH

R117
D001R7520F

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SCD01U50V3KX

SUD50N03-06P

D28
DUMMY-SCM54-U

Q13

2
Q12
SUD50N03-06P

C124
SC4700P50V2KX

1
2

24

1546DLM

C95

1546DHM
1546LXM

d. P4 & Banias CPU VCC_CORE_S0 difference :


The power system can separate two kinds of architecture for CPU.
But the only difference between P4 and Banias CPU power
architecture is VCC_COER_S0. Such as below :
1546
DHM & DLM

3D3V_S0

1D2V_S0

Phase 1
Power module
DCBATOUT

LDO
CM2843

DCBATOUT

PWRGD_VID
CPUCORE_ON

PWM
5
MAX1546
ISL6218

Phase 2
Power module

6
VCC_CORE_S0

DCBATOUT

1D2V_VID
VCC_IO_S0(1.05V)

H_VID0~5

CPU
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Phase 3
Power module
Banias CPU needs 21A, so only one phase is needed.

2. Power plan introduction :


By now we have learned how NB power is generated and
why it must be done in a specific sequence. You might start
to wonder, What is other Power application? In the
following section, I will show you the power consumption of
all devices in a NB. You will learn:
2.1 Power budget block diagram
2.2 NB power application
2.3 Multipower device

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2. Power plan introduction :(contd)


Create a NB power system with fixed procedure, so
we can know the power budget of all devices from the
power plan procedure .
Design
procedure
:
a. Power budget
:
We must first know the power category and
consumption of all devices, and then we can start to
define the SPEC of power.
b. Power application :
After power SPEC was defined, we need to confirm the
timing & sequence when power is turned on. And
separate them with S5,S3,S0, etc. for the purpose
of power saving.
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2.1 NB (Yuhina) Power Budget Block Diagram


DDR
2D5V_S3 (2150mA)
1D25V_S0 (2150mA)

KBC
3D3V_S3(150mA)

LAN
3D3V_LAN_S5(150mA)

~50mA

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0

2D5V_S0
1D25V_S0

~2150mA
~65400mA

VCC_CORE
3D3V_LAN_S5
1D2V_VID

VCC_CORE

~190mA

1D2V_VID

~3739mA

1D5V_S0

1D5V_S0

~4150mA
~90mA
~150mA
~166mA

2D5V_S3
1D5V_S5
3D3V_S3
3D3V_S5

2D5V_S3
1D5V_S5
3D3V_S3
3D3V_S5

1D5V_S0(3140mA )
3D3V_S0(20mA )
2D5V_S3(2000mA )
2D5V_S0(50mA)
VCC_CORE(940mA )

VCC_CORE_S0(2.5mA )
1D5V_S0(599mA)
3D3V_S0(480mA )
1D5V_S5(90mA )
3D3V_S5( 166mA)

ICH4M

VCC_CORE
(67.4A)-3.2G Hz
1D2V_VID(190mA)

Montara-GT

CARDBUS&
1394
3D3V_S0(60mA)

Mobile P4 CPU

3D3V_S0

~2984mA
CLK GEN
ICS950813
360mA

LCD
200mA

MS Card
200 mA
SD Card
200 mA

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Mini PCI
802.11/BT
660mA

KBC
7mA

LPC SIO
50mA

LPCROM
6mA

CODEC
40mA

PCMCIA
CARD
1000mA

FIR
600mA

5V_S0

~7650mA
FDD
0.8A

1394-PHY
71mA

FAN
0.5A

CRT
0.5A

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HDD
900mA

USB*4
2000mA

CD ROM
700mA

OP AMP
1A

TOUCHPAD
25mA

PCMCIA
CARD
1A

2.2 NB power application :


2.2.1 3D3V Device :

S5
S3

S0

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ICH4M

LAN
KBC
Montara-GT ICH4M
Mini PCI
CODEC
1394-PHY
KBC
PCMCIA card LCD
MS/SD card FIR

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LPC SIO
LPC ROM
CLK GEN
CARBUS

2.2.2 5V Device :

S5
S3
S0

Mini PCI
CODEC
Touch PAD
PCMCIA card

FDD
HDD
CRT
FAN

2.2.3 2D5V Device :


S5
S3
S0
30

DDR

Montara - GT
Montara - GT

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CD ROM
USB*4
OP AMP

2.2.4 1D5V Device :


S5

ICH4M

S3
S0

ICH4M

Montara_GT

2.2.5 1D25V Device :


S0

DDR

2.2.6 1D2V_VID Device :


S0

CPU

2.2.7 VCC_CORE Device :


S0
31

CPU

ICH4M

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Montara-GT

2.3 Multi-power device :


Device

Power source

ICH4M
3D3V_S5
(South Bridge)

3D3V_S0

1D5V_S5 1D5V_S0 VCC_CORE

Montara _ GT
3D3V_S0
(North Bridge)

2D5V_S3

2D5V_S0 1D5V_S0 VCC_CORE

Mobile P4 CPU 1D2V_VID VCC_CORE


DDR

32

2D5V_S3

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3. No power troubleshooting

No power define :

No power means when the power button is pressed, the power


LED is not turned on, and the system is not booted. We can
separate no power in four kinds of states :

3.1 No power debug notice & sequence


3.2 No DCBATOUT or short to GND
3.3 S5 Power No Good
3.4 Power on logic No Good
If power system is good & power LED turned on, but the system
still N.G., it means the system is No work.
You must follow the No work debugging process to troubleshoot
the problems.
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3.1 No power debug notice & sequence :


3.1.1 debug Notice :

For safetys sake, please use adapter to supply the


Notebook power when you execute the debug process .
This debug procedure can only cover about 90% no power
Problems.
3.1.2 debug Sequence :
Check
Dcbatout short to GND
Symptom?
Ref : 3.2.1

No

Check
S5 power N.G
Symptom?
Ref : 3.3.1

Yes
Execute
DCbatout short to GND
Debugging
Ref : 3.2.2
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Yes
Execute
S5 power N.G
Debugging
Ref : 3.3.2

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No

Check
Power logic N.G
Symptom?
Ref.:3.4.1

Yes
Execute
Power logic N.G
Debugging
Ref : 3.4.2

No

Other
condition

3.2 DCBATOUT short to GND :


3.2.1 Symptoms:
There is no any response when the power button was pressed and
adaptor was already inserted .
Adaptor power LED flashes or shuts down .
Solution: Open the system case and use the multi-meter 200V scale to
check AD+ or DCBATOUT between GND as below . If the voltage is
less than 5V,we can make sure it is short to GND .
Adaptor in to generate DCBATOUT D23

HZM24NBZ
3

D36

1
DCBATOUT

DUMMY-SSM34

AD_JK

1
C335

1
2
3
4

C334

U3
S
S
S
G

2
1

AD+_2

SI4425DY

L3
R25
100KR3

8
7
6
5

U57
SI4425DY

AD+

5
6
7
8

R259
D02R7520F

4
3
2
1

1645_PDS

E
B

R344
100KR3

35

R30
56KR3

Q37
2N7002

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AD_OFF

25

Q3
D

Rating 5.5A

C28

D
D
D
D

D
D
D
D

L2

S
S
S
G

DCIN1

19V

1 of 2

3.2.2 Debugging :

There are 6 kinds of power sources in the Yuhina system, so we must check all
of the power output to see if there is any short to GND.
Solution: Check the 5V_S3,3D3V_S5,2D5V_S3,1D5V_S0,VCC_CORE and
charger power one by one .
5V_S3
DCBATOUT

P-MOS
SI4425

Charger

PWM
MAX1645

N-MOS
FD9412

PWM
MAX1999

3D3V_S5

N-MOS
FD9412

N-MOS
FD9412

3D3V_LAN_S5

LDO
G913C

1D5V_S5

3D3V_S3

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P-MOS
SI4425

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3D3V_S0

N-MOS
FD9412

VCC_CORE_S0
2D5V_S3

BT+

5V_S0

PWM
MAX1715

PWM
MAX1546
N-MOS
FD9412

2D5V_S0

LDO
G913C

1D25V_S0
1D5V_S0

2 of 2

3.2.2 Debugging : (contd)


Following is an example of the 2D5V power source.

1 Use multi-meter 200 scale to check TC32. The impedance must bigger
than 200. If not, it means something short to GND, and we need to find out why.
2 Usually we would remove hi & low side MOS (U65 & U69) and MAX1715. If its still
short to GND, it means some output devices are damaged, and we must try to
remove them one by one .
PM_SLP_S3#

DCBATOUT

10R3

D10

U65

0R3-0-U

D
D
D
D

R577
1
R582
1

5
6
7
8

5V_S3

R249
1

0R3-0-U

C213

SI4800

BAW56-1

C191

G
S
S
S

M1715BST2
1

DL1

ILIM1

FB2
ILIM2

AGND
PGND
PGOOD

TON
REF

M1715FB2

12

M1715ILIM2

37

C208
5
9

U61

Notebook Power System Introduction & Troubleshooting

13

SSM24L

14

28
15
23

MAX1715EEI- U2

D45

0R3-0-U
2

FB1

N.C.
N.C.
N.C.

22

M1715DL2

R555
1

R593

R592
0R3-0-U

U69
SI4892DY

OUT2

19

L25
IND-5D6UH-6-U

5
6
7
8

OUT1

M1715LX2

D
D
D
D

DL2

16

G
S
S
S

M1715DH2

4
3
2
1

24

LX2

17

LX1

TC32
ST220U4VDM-6
2
1

DH2

2D5V_S3

SCD1U25V3KX

DH1

27

6
18

26

SKIP#
BST2

C207

BST1

0R3-0-U

25

R591

V+
VCC
VDD

ON2
ON1

4
3
2
1

4
21
20

11
10

DVM

3.3 S5 Power No Good :


3.3.1 Symptoms:
VCC

28
26
27
24
22

pin18 5V_S5 power is good.

If the impedance is more than 200, it means the


MAX1999 have some problem, and it must be changed.
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DH5

LX3

LX5

DL3

DL5

3
4
6

OUT5

FB3

FB5

ON3
ON5

PRO#
NC

SHDN#

ILIM5
13

TON

REF

PGOOD

SKIP#

GND
LDO5

12

ILIM3

MAX1999EEI
MAX1999_LDO3

18

If the impedance is smaller than 200, it means some


5V_S5 devices are damaged, and we must try to
remove the component one by one.

DH3

LDO3

If not, it means MAX1999 or some 5V_S5 devices are


damaged. Remove all powers, use multi-meter to check
MAX1999 pin18 Impedance .

BST5

OUT3
7

Open the case, use multi-meter to check if MAX1999

BST3

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3.3.2 Debugging :

17

20
V+

There is no any response when the power button


was pressed and adaptor has already plugged-in.
Adaptor power LED is normal .

U31

MAX1999_LDO5 = 5V_S5

30mA MAX.

14
16
15
19
21
9

10
1

11
5
2
23

3.3.2 Debugging : (contd)


Next we must check 3D3V_S5. If 3D3V_DC_S5 is N.G, we could use multimeter to check MAX1999 pin20 (19V), pin17, 28, 3 (5V) if powers are all
good. If N.G, please check the source component.
DCBATOUT

MAX1999_LDO5
1

R294

MAX1999_VCC

2
1

10R3

D41

MAX1999_BST3

U31

R263
28

BST3

27
24

C627
SC47P50V2JN

22

3D3V_S5_ON

R598
6K65R3F

SC100P50V2JN

C636
2

R590
2MR3

3
4

MAX1999_SHDN#

DH3

DH5

LX3

LX5

DL3

DL5

OUT3

1
2

TC30
ST100U4VBM

C622
SCD1U25V3KX

BST5

OUT5

FB3

FB5

ON3
ON5

PRO#
NC

SHDN#

ILIM5
13

TON
ILIM3

R604
10KR3F

14

26
2

3D3V_DC_S5

L21
IND-4D7UH-16
68.4R71B.101
1

VCC

0R3-U

220KR3

V+

R608

17

20

Q22
SI4834DY

1
2

SCD1U25V3KX

C209

C198
SC4D7U25V6KX

C194

R602

C642

C647

4D7R5

8
MAX1999_REF

REF

PGOOD

16
15
19
21
9

10
1

11
5
2

C236

25

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LDO5

GND

LDO3

SKIP#

18

12
SCD22U10V3KX

MAX1999EEI
MAX1999_LDO5

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3.4 Power on logic N.G :
3.4.1
Symptom :
If the previous two symptoms are checked ok, but the system still
has no power on, then we should check the power on logic circuit as
below .
1 When power button was pressed, PWRBTN# will be pulled low.
2 After a series of logic actions, the SHUTDOWN_S5 will also be
pulled low.
5V_AUX_S5

5V_AUX_S5

DCBATOUT
R310

BL3# trigger point 11.5V

GND

NC7SZ08-U

5V_AUX_S5

AC_IN

U36C

4
PR
R473

TSAHCT14
4

Power Button

R480
47KR3

U50B

14

R314
100KR3

9
10

U36B

2
16

S1N4148-U

5V_AUX_S5

Hi
D29

GND

5V_AUX_S5
TSAHCT32

PWRBTN#
1

11,25,35,36

PURE_HW_SHUTDOWN#

1KR3
TSAHCT32

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Hi

8
1

CLK
Q

TSAHCT74

Hi

5V_AUX_S5

14

14
5

Hi

R481
10KR3

Lo

40

R468
17K4R3F

14

S-80840CNMC

14,15,33,36

BC83
SCD1U

R313
100KR3

14

VCC
D

5V_AUX_S5

U50C
TSAHCT14

PM_SLP_S4#

VCC

33

SHUTDOWN_S5

NC

NC

U34A
5

U51

OUT
VDD
VSS

1
2
3
BL3#

TSAHCT32
1

U52

5V_AUX_S5

2
10KR3

Hi

U36A

To MAX1999
ON3 3D3V

1
5V_AUX_S5

R469
33KR3F

14

R471
100KR3

CL

C521
SCD1U16V

Lo

25

2 of 2

3.4.1 Symptom :

If the power on logic circuit is correct, we can track the south


bridge trigger logic .
1 When the power button is pressed, PWRBTN# will be pulled low ,
2 After the logic action, the PWRBTN#_ICH will also be pulled low.
It will trigger south bridge to send PM_SLP_S4 & S3 signal to turn
3 on S3 & S0 power .
5V_AUX_S5
1

3D3V_S5
5V_AUX_S5

3
PM_SLP_S4 & S3

41

14

D30

TSAHCT14

S1N4148-U

Lo

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R467
1
C512
SCD1U16V

47KR3
2

2
14

U50B
TSAHCT14
3

(South bridge )
PWRBTN#_ICH

Lo

Hi

U50A
14

5V_AUX_S5

R479
10KR3
2

ICH4M

R480
47KR3

PWRBTN#

R473
PWRBTN#_1

2
1KR3
C521
SCD1U16V

Lo

25

3. No Power Debug
3.4.2 Debugging :
If SHUTDOWN_S5 is not pulled low, it means some logic ICs or
components during this path are N.G.. If it is the case, then just
follow the circuit to find out the problems, and replace them.
If the PWRBTN#_ICH is not pulled low, it means some logic ICs
or components during this path are N.G. If it is the case, then just
follow the circuit to find out the problems, and replace them.
If the PM_SLP_S4 & S3 is not pulled hi, maybe the south bridge
is damaged .

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To Sum up :
Above-mentioned are power system & no power debug .
All of the circuit diagram are references from Yuhina .

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