GROUP 2

First Pleno
Scenario 1
 Terminologi
Controversial is something causes
peoples argument debating which is
hasitate to prevail
Internship program is one of practical
learning periods to be a doctor. The
students are trained to face the real
conditions happening in hospital
 Standar Kompetensi Dokter
Indonesia (SKDI) is standardization
for graduated medical students in
Indonesia.
Skills Lab is skills enhancing program
which is had by students in
laboratory to get clinical skills.
 Clinical skill is acquired from skills lab
use for preparation in becoming a
doctor
Academic stage education is
experienced before profession stage
Indonesias doctors alumna quality is
the skills of Indonesias doctors
 DETERMINE PROBLEM
1. Why the internship program become
controversial for Indonesian doctors?
2. Why Ayu wanted to go to medical
school?
3. Why medical graduates must join the
internship program?
4. How competency standard of doctors in
Indonesia?
5. What is the different between
conventional method and PBL?
6. What we do in skills lab practice?
7. How the system of the clinical skills
examination?
8. Why the PBL system have additional
exams?
9. What the research led to the system of
medical education in Indonesia
experienced a change?
10.Why students are introduced to early
medical terminology?
11.what are the activities undertaken after
a doctor to increase knowledge?
12.How the process on the academic stage?
13.What are the steps that must be taken
from the student to become a doctor?
14.why the doctors must apply lifelong
learning?
15.How to system before internship?
16. How the graduation criteria doctors
in Indonesia?
17.why PBL method is considered
more complex than conventional
methods?
 THE ANSWER OF THE
PROBLEMS
1. Because this is new program
2. Sifa thinks that doctor is kind
3. For adaptation
4. You can see at SKDI (standar
kopetensi dokter Indonesia)
5. PBL is where students study with
active methods, whereas
conventional curiculum is where
students study with passive
methods
6. Skills Lab, this is course to get the
skills of real doctor
7. A skills test is OSCE and written test
is Multiple choices and essay
8. In 2010, Menkes thought that doctor
had less knowledge, after that they
met together to made new rules of
Internship.
9. a. academics
b. profetion, and coass
c. internship
d. UKM
e. UKP
10. Updates our knowladge with: take
a course, read a lot of books, and
read journals
11. Cara menanalisis terminologi
medis? Find it on Dorland
12. Lifelong learning
13. Depand of doctor, if they break the
rules, they will not get STR (surat
tanda registrasi)
 Analysis
Medical Education
Curriculum

PBL Strategy of PBL

Conventional
Method Education
Method

Critical
Evaluation Thinking

Self, Peer Lifelong

Success
Assessment Learning
Support

Knowledge and
Clinical Skills
 Learning Objective
1. Student is able to explain The
Medical Curriculum in Indonesia
2. Student is able to explain The
difference between conventional
method and PBL method
3. Student is able to explain about
Learning Strategies in PBL ( clinic
and academic )
4. Student is able to explain about
Evaluation System in PBL method
5. Student is able to explain Time
Management and Speed Reading
that support success of learning
6. Student is able to explain about self
assessment
7. Student is able to explain The
concept of lifelong learning
8. Student is able to analyze and
defines about medical terminology
 The Answer of L.O
1. Indonesian medical education
curriculum :
1. Medical education in Indonesia
begins with special education by
Dutch to teach the people to be
interpreter smallpox, with the work is
eradicate the smallpox happens.
2. Education at early independence
constitute Dutch curriculum and
implemented freely at 10 years.
3. The curriculum implemented with the
levels :
1. Candidate I : chemistry, biology,
physic
2. Candidate II : anatomy, histology,
biochemistry, physiology
3. Doctoral I : public health,
microbiology, pharmacology
4. Doctoral II : obgyn, interne, THT,
dentistry
5. Semi Arts I : Doctoral II + forensic
medicine, pharmachy, radiology
6. Semi Arts II
4. At 1981 compiled the core of
curriculum for Medical education in
Indonesia
1. KIPDI I (1983-1993)
1. Natural Science Foundation
1. Medical Chemistry
2. Medical Biology
3. Medical Physic
2. Preclinical
1. Anatomy and Histology
2. Physiology
3. Biochemistry
3. Paraclinical
1. Microbiology
2. Parasitology
3. Pathology Clinical
4. Pathology anatomy
5. Pharmacology
4. Clinical
6. Surgery
7. THT
8. Dentistry
9. Radiology
10.etc
2. KIPDI II (1994-2004) :
still in some parts, but the topic of
education directed to development of
IPTEKDOK
3. KIPDI III / KBK (2005 now) :
Have 7 area of competence :
effective communication skills
Basics clinical skills
Skills to apply the basics of
biomedical sciences, clinical
sciences, behavioral sciences
and epidemiology in medical
 Management skills of health
problems on individuals, families
and communities through a
comprehensive, holistic, ongoing,
coordinated and work together in
the context of primary health care.
Utilize and critically assess
information technology
Introspection and self-
development with lifelong learning
Ethics, morality and
2. Different of Conventional Method
and PBL :
Conventional PBL
Students are very Students are more
depend with their active for search
teachers (Teacher the information
Centre) (Student Centre)
Students are Students have
inexperience ability in skill,
experience and
Students have low confidence to apply
motivate for their science in
independent treatment of
3. Learning Strategy of PBL Method
(Academic and Clinical)
1. Academic (semester 1 7)
1. Semester 1 : General Education
2. Semester 2 7 : Integrated Medical
Education

Activity of Education :
Tutorial
Skills Lab
Practicum
Plenary Discussion
Expert Lectures
 Consultation with the
facilitator / instructor / expert
Independent Education
Group Discussion without
Tutor
2. Clinical
1. Semester 8 10 : Clinical
experience (Clerkship)
2. Intership
4. Evaluation in PBL Method :
Evaluation of Student
Block Exam : Tutorial Exam,
Practicum, Skills Lab,
Written test
Longitudinal Exam : Written test with
Multiple Choices
Question and Skills lab
Exam with
OSCE (Objectives
Structure
Clinical Evaluation)
Evaluation of Tutor
5. Case of success education support :
Time Management
time management must doing,
so the activity that we do have
benefit and not throw many time
to do that.
Effective Reading
effective reading is read with
quick speed but it isnt hurry read.
Although use quick speed, we
must understand what we read.
 Critical thinking
We must explore more information
We must clarified the information
6. How to Assess the Ability of Self
Be true to yourself, what the plus and
minus that you have
Check the plus and minus that you
have with your friends, parents, family,
etc (ask them to assess your self)
Development the plus that you have
and change the minus toward a better.

Self evaluation, always have 3 quation :

- where do you come from
- how can I success?
- whats next?
7. Lifelong Learning Concept
Formal
Attend the education in school
( kindergarten School,
Elementary School, Junior High
School, Senior High School,
University, etc)
Non Formal
Attend the training
Read the reference books
Read the medical journal
Ask to the expert
Lifelong Learning :
Doesnt stop because we finished
schools
Make us up to date
Always learn according to the growth
phases
Thank
You