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HISTORY TAKING

Dr.Ahmed Gaber Ass. Prof of Neurology Ain Shams University

OBJECTIVES
To reach a final diagnosis: 1. Where is the lesion? (Anatomical vs physiological) i.e focal /systemic 2. What is the lesion? = where + onset course and duration see table 1

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Mental Process
During this course the following will be done for each test (history- examination): 1. Objectives 2. How can I do it 3. Interpretation

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HISTORY

PERSONAL HISTORY
Name Age Sex Residence Occupation Marital status and children Special habits, dietary habits Handedness

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COMPLAINT
Patients own word Most distressing symptom which brought him to medical advice

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FAMILY HISTORY
Consanguinity Similar condition Other neurological disorders Other congenital anomalies Hypertension DM

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PAST HISTORY

Similar attack Trauma, Fever, OM Cardiac, Hypertension, DM, TIA Allergy, Vaccination, Vasculitis (orogenital ulcers) TB, Bilharzias,$,Malignancy Surgery, Drugs,Toxic substances, irradiation Menstrual history, contraception, abortions Perinatal and developmental
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HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS


ONSET, COARSE, DURATION

Consciousness, HCF, Epilepsy Speech ORGANIZATION Cranial Nerves Start by patients C/O Motor system Chronological order within Sensory system and pain each system After finishing each system Sphincters start the following system Cranium, spine by chronological order Stretch Increase ICT, Headache Hypothalamic + Autonomic Other systems
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ONSET

ACUTE

INSIDUOUS

GRADUAL

Dramatic

Sudden

Rapid

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COARSE

Regressive Stationary Intermittent Remittent/Exacerb


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Progressive

Consciousness
Alertness Vs Awareness Continuous Vs episodic Associated Phenomena

Convulsions Headache Sleep disturbance Focal deficit Arrhythmias Drug intake Systemic illness Fever

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Alertness
Fully Awake Sleepy Drowsy Stuperous Comatose

Glascow scale definition No eye opening to verbal command No motor response better than weak flexion Incomprehensible sounds in response to pain

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Awareness
Attentive, Oriented Apathy (slow) Ill sustained attention Inattentive Confusion Disoriented Delerious (confused + irritable /hallucination)
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Orientation (T, P, P) Attention: (ill sustained, apathy, bradyphrenia) Memory (anterograde, retrograde) Thinking Hallucination Mood

EPISODIC

STEREOTYPY

NO STEREOTYPY

EPILEPSY

SYNCOPE

MIGRAINE

DELERIUM

TIA

NOCT

NARCOLEPSY

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CONTINUOUS

AWARENESS

AROUSAL

LATERALIZING SIGNS

DIFFUSE SIGNS

NO NON LATERALIZING LATERALIZING LATERALIZING SIGNS

Hemispheric ParietoOccipital

Encephalitis ICT

Metabolic Toxic ICT


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Hemispheric Brain Stem Diencephalic

Deepened Awareness

EPILEPSY OBJECTIVES
Is he epileptic What type of epilepsy What is possible etiology Evaluate seizure variables Medication history

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IS HE EPILEPTIC
Two Unprovoked Seizures Behvioral Phenomena What is Seizure? Excessive Neuronal Discharge
Cerebral Origin Paroxysmal Stereotyped Recurrent Unprovoked (usually)

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WHAT TYPE OF EPILEPSY?


TYPES

CLINICAL

SYNDROMATIC ETIOLOGICAL

Generalized

Acute Symptomatic

Isolated Cryptogenic

Epilepsies

Partial

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Idiopathic

Cryptogenic

Symptomatic

Partial Epilepsy Secondary Generalized

Simple

Complex

Motor

Aura (Subjective SPS)

Sensory

Dialeptic

Special Sensory

Automatisms

Autonomic

Simple

Psychic

Complex

Ictal Core phenomena


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Post ictal State

Generalized Epilepsy

GTC

Absence

Myoclonic

Atonic

Tonic
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Spasms

Epilepsy Variables
Frequency (Singlets, clusters, status) Diurnal Variation Cataminal Stress Provocation Medical History

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HPI
Consciousness, HCF, Epilepsy Speech Cranial Nerves Motor system Sensory system and pain Sphincters Cranium, spine Stretch Increase ICT, Headache Hypothalamic + Autonomic Other systems
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SPEECH

Language DYSPHASIA

Articulation DYSARTHRIA

EXPRESIVE

GLOBAL

RECEPTIVE

Nominal Dysphasia

Litteral Paraphasia

Word Salad

Word Finding Difficulty

Telegraphic speech

Symantic Paraphasia

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Word Finding Difficulty

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CRANIAL NERVES

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OLFACTORY
HOW TO ASK
Diminished olfaction Change in quality of olfaction Abnormal olfaction not present

FINDINGS & INTERPRETATION


Anosmia: Bilateral (not significant), unilateral (signify a lesion any where in the pathway) Parosmia (abnormality in olfactory cortex) Olfactory hallucinations mostly epileptic in uncus, orbitofrontal surface

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Interpretation
Anosmia Bilateral Unilateral

Local

Parkinsonism

Focal

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OPTIC
How to ask? VA Optic n Color vision-- Macula Field of vision-- retino cortical pathway Blurring of vision -- non specific, migraine Visual hallucinations, illusions: complexity , coloring, hemifield -- epileptic, migraine, psychotic
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FINDINGS & INTERPRETATION

Dec VA

Loss of Color Vision

Field Defect

Visual il usions

Viisual Hallucinations

Acute

Chronic

Optic Neuritis

To one side

Concentric

Occipital Cx

Il formed

Wellformed

Optic Neuritis Error of refraction (pain on eye mov) Optic neuritis

Hemianopia Quadrantanopia

Papil edema

Flashes, patterns animals, persons Black and white coloured may be hemifield both fields

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Occipital

Post temporal

OCCULO MOTORS

Diplopia

Ptosis

Dazzling

Squint

Binocular/Mono

Partial/Complete

Divergent

HZ/ Vertical

Correctability

Convergent

Direction

Fatigue

Headache

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DIPLOPIA
Direction of maximum separation between images is the side of nerve lesion False image= Outer image
Horizontal Images Double vision + Single Eye Closure

Corrected

Non Corrected

Binocular Diplopia

Monocular Diplopia

Oblique Images

On Looking Down words

Local Eye Cause

Occipital cortex Lesion

Divergent Squint

Convergent squint

No Squint

Occulomotor n
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Trochlear nerve

Medial rectus (3 rd)

Abducent n

Median Long Bundle

SQUINT
SQUINT

Divergent

Convergent

Unilateral or Bilateral Occulomotor

Unilateral or Bilateral Abducent

DAZLING:

Dilated pupils due to third nerve lesion

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PTOSIS
Ptosis Bilateral Eye Lid Pufffiness Unilateral

WeaK Orbicularis Occuli

Intact Orbicularis Oculi

Lid Oedema

Correctable

Non correctable

Myogenic, MNJ

Neurogenic

Horner Syndrome

Occulomotor

Diurnal Variation

No diurnal Variation

Nuclear third lesion

Never Complete ptosis May be complete ptosis

Myasthenia Gravis

Myopathy

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TRIGEMINAL

Mastication/Biting/ Mouth Deviation

Wasting/ Fasciculations

Facial Sensations

Superficial
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Deep

Neuralgia

INTERPRETATION
Motor Weak biting Bilateral atrophy Mouth deviation Unilateral atrophy

Bilateral LMNL
Systemic

Unilateral LMNL
Focal MND Extraxial

FSH
Myotonic Dyst
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Intraaxial

SENSORY IRRITATION DESTRUCTION

Burning, electric
Division

See exam
Whole n

V3

TG Neuralgia

TG Neuralgia

Migrainous Neuralgia
R Structural Pathology
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Not V3

Structural Pathology

FACIAL NERVE
HOW? Eye closure Eye brow elevation Epiphoria Dry eye, eye burning Mouth deviation Driplling of saliva Food accumulation Taste Hyperacusis Fasciculations and wasting Emotional expression CORRECTION BY EMOTION RELATION TO THE SIDE OF WEAKNESS

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FACIAL N Abnormality

VOLUNTARY

ASSOCIATIVE

LMNL

Reduced

No Correction by emotions Contralateral to limb Wk Lost Glabellar

Extrapyramidal

UMNL

Exagerated

Corrected by emotions Epsilateral to Limb Wk Intact Glabellar

BIL Pyramidal
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VESTIBULOCHOCLEAR N
HOW? A. Choclear Tinnitus Deafness Auditory hallucinations: formed, illformed B. Vestibular Vertigo Dissociation Phenomena
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VIII

Choclear

Vestibular

Irritation

Destruction

VERTIGO

PN Tinnitus

Deafness

Epileptic

CX Hallucination

Central BSTem

Peripheral

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IX, X
Nasal tone Nasal regurgitation Choking Dysphagia Hoarseness, dysphonia Emotional lability

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INTERPRETATION
Three Levels: Neurological vs Mechanical ( Mechanical More to solid) If Neurological , Myogenic Vs neurogenic (Neurogenic more to fluid, Myogenic either) If Neurogenic Bulbar Vs Pseudo Bulbar
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Neurogenic IX, X Bulbar Severe Pseudo bulbar Less

No
Nasal Regurge Atrophy, fascic No
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Emotional Lability
NO NO Brisk Jaw

XI
HOW? Head tilt Shoulder depression Head falling back or forward Fasciculation or atrophy in neck

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MOTOR

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XII
HOW? Dysarthria tongue syllables Movement of food by tongue Tongue deviation unable to protrude tongue Wasting , fasciculation of tongue

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MOTOR SYSTEM
UMNU P EP CLL LMNU

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Objectives
Where UMNL / LMNL

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HOW?
Weakness? (P, LMN) Ataxia? (Cll) Involuntary Movements? (EP)

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WEAKNESS

Distribution

Tone

State

Fasciculations

Laterality

UL/LL

P/D

F/E

Abd/Add

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TONE
Hypotonia UMNL Cerebellar Caudate/chorea LMNL

Hypertonia

Massive UMNL
Shock Stage

Spasticity

Rigidity

Parietal Lobe hypotonia

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Weakness

Hemiparesis

Quadreparesis/ Paraparesis

Monoparesis

P Dist D>P Abd>Add F>E LL E>F UL DF> PLF

Subcortical UL><LL

Capsular UL=LL

B Stem Cll/ CN
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Weakness

Hemiparesis

Quadreparesis/ Paraparesis

Monoparesis

P>D

D>P

Muscle

LMNL

UMNL

AHCs

PN

Focal Spinal

Roots

AHCs

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Parasagittal

Weakness

Hemiparesis

Quadreparesis/ Paraparesis

Monoparesis

P>D

D>P

AHCs

LMNL

UMNL

Roots

PN

Cortical

AHCs

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ATAXIA
Objectives Cerebellar or Sensory ataxia

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How?
NO weakness Vertigo or not Ataxia or not Sensitivity to dark
Basin sign Dark room Night time

Gait deviation Intention tremor Speech change

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BALANCE DISORDER

VESTIBULAR

EXTRAPYRAMIDAL

COORDINATION

Vertigo

Propulsion Retropulsion Postural ref

Correctable (Sensory)

Continuous (Cerebellar)

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INVOLUNTARY MOVEMENTS
Akinetic rigid syndrome /dyskinetic syndrome

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Akinetic Rigid

Bradykinesia/ Bradyphrenia

Hypertonia

Tremor-- Static

Autonomic

Balance disturbance Postural


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Depression

DYSKINESIA Distribution Axial/Acral UL/LL D/P Segmental Focal Precipitation Rest/ Spontaneous Action Startle Kinetic Intetion kinetic

Postural

Generalized
Hemi Overflow Rate/Rhythm
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Task/Position specific
Isometric Stimulus sensitive Time/Day

Stereotypy

DYSKINESIA

Stereotyped Shock Like Single, clusters Myoclonus

Non Stereotyped Proximal, Rapid, Pseudopurposive Chorea Distal, Slow, Snake like

Regular/Rhythmic

Tremor

Athetosis
Maintained, Spasm, Posturing
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Irregular

Tics

Dystonia

SENSORY SYSTEM

PAIN CC Site Radiation +/When Autonomic

SENSORY SYSTEM What??

SUPERFICIAL

DEEP

Burning Heat/Cold Dysthesia

Tingling

Numbness Narrow Band

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Broad Tight band Swelling Soft ground Rhombergism

SENSORY SYSTEM Where??

Dermatome= Root

PN

Radicular Pain

Level=SP Cd
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Hemihypothesia =Cranial

Dermatome

S. Level

HEMI

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PN

Radiculopathy

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HPI
Consciousness, HCF, Epilepsy Speech Cranial Nerves Motor system Sensory system and pain Sphincters Cranium, spine Stretch Increase ICT, Headache Hypothalamic + Autonomic Other systems
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SPHINCTERS
Bladder: Urgency, precipitancy, incontinence Hesitency, retention, over flow Desire Local (pain, mechanical obstruction, stress incontinence) Saddle hypothesia Sexual: Potency Premature ejaculation Rectal: As bladder
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Cranium & Spine/Stretch


Pain Tenderness

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HEADACHE
CC Site Radiation Autonomic Features Persistence Relation to posture/sleep Periodicity
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MIGRAINE Severity Autonomic Neck Pain ++++ ++++ +++

ICT +++ +++ +++ +++ ++ +++ +++ +++

Relation to posture +++ Throbbing +++

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HYPOTHALAMIC
Polyurea, polydepsia, polyphagia Obesity Sleep disturbances Libido loss, impotence Temp change Emotional change Autonomic

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HPI
Consciousness, HCF, Epilepsy Speech Cranial Nerves Motor system Sensory system and pain Sphincters Cranium, spine Stretch Increase ICT, Headache Hypothalamic + Autonomic Other systems
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Prefrontal: Conation: Apathy, abulia Attention: Akinetic mute, waxy flexibility, Perseveration (thinking, acts) Thinking:Abstraction, judgement, OCD Personality change Orbitofrontal: Jukular, disinhibited, sexual RT Parietal: Neglect (motor, sensory, Anoso, atopatoto) Geographical disorientation Visuospatial disorientation Dressing (constructional) Lt Parietal: Finger agnosia Left right disorientation Dyscalculi Dysgraphia (dyslexia)

HCF
Temporal: Nominal aphasia Vertigo Hallucination (formed, visual and auditory) Occipital: Field Illusions,Hallucinations Visual neglect, Color agnosia, color blindness Antons Synd (cortical blindness + unaware) Balint syn (neglect, Optic ataxia, psychologic optic paresis)

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HCF (cont.)
SPEECH: Dysarthria Dysphasia (receptive, expressive, repitition) Dysphonia, Aphonia Dysgraphia Dyslexia Dyscalculia APRAXIA: Ideational, ideomotor, motor Dressing, construction, gait, callosal
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FORMULATION
Summary in physiological terms

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DIAGNOSIS

Where?

What?

Focal

Systemic

OCD+where

Multifocal

Disseminated

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MOTOR

Focal

Systemic

N. injury

UMN

LMN

Spinal cord

Pyramidal

Muscle/MNJ

Brain stem

Extrapyramidal

PN/Radiculopathy

Capsular

Cerebellar

MND

Subcortical

Cortical

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APPROACH TO WHAT IS THE LESION

O
G P

D
E C <3y

FOCAL
SOL (Malig, inflammatory)

SYSTEMIC
Degenerative

G
D

L C >3y

SOL (Benign, Granuloma)


Traumatic, Vascular, Migraine, Epileptic Vascular, inflammatory, Demyelinating

Metabolic, Toxic, Nutritional


----Toxic, Acute Metabolic

Non Short prog

Rp Non Short prog

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Thank you

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